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Irish people willfully excluded from the Dáil for 69 years by Irish people is embarassing in my opinion.

Tis even worse than that, the west Brits and Blueshirts have had us excluded for 84 years.

And counting.

[Your average England fan, for whatever reason, doesn't see a football match featuring the ROI team as being any cause to keep an 800 year-old political grudge going]

Hardy:
"I suppose my question really is - how do people feel about the fact that the English (in general - I'm not including the National Front element)  support the Irish team enthusiastically when they're not involved themselves. Does it make you feel uncomfortable? Should we tell them to stop?"

I think it's a much wider questuion than that. THe real question is why do they do that? I think it's their complete misunderstanding (through miseducation by the English powers and misrepersentation by Irish powers) of the real feeling towards English dominance in any walk of life. They simply don't know there is a problem with our relationship.

Actually, it is much simpler than Zapatista thinks. Your average England fan, for whatever reason, doesn't see a football match featuring the ROI team as being any cause to keep an 800 year-old political grudge going. They merely see a match which is featuring a neighbouring country, from whose shores many of their own ancestors came, involving players who ply their trade at English clubs and it is the habit of sports fans all over the world to try to establish some sort of "connection", or "affinity" with one of the teams in any match, in order to make it more intersting.

It might be equally valid to ask why more ROI fans don't support England when they are playing another country. [Btw, I neither need nor want an answer to that question, it was rhetorical]

And I think this my point exactly. They simply don't know that there is a problem.

As I'm sure you can see from the posts there is a poor relationship between the two.

I like to think most Irish people don't hold a 'political' grudge becuase of the last 800 years. Many of them just hold a 'political' grudge becuase of the last 50 years. But that's only one of the reasons they hold a grudge.

By the way, I wonder why the English dislike the Germans so much?

Irish people willfully excluded from the Dáil for 69 years by Irish people is embarassing in my opinion.

69 years! This is embarrasing.

Is this info likely to be of use to terrorists?

or even

the ROI soccer managment to see who qualifys to play for them?

It would suit Dessie Farrels ambitions.

Is there? What is it?

If you need to ask this, it's an enless argument I'm not prepared to get into.

4! 8! 6! who do we appreciate!!! Dammit!! Can we get nothing right?

I think it's a much wider questuion than that. THe real question is why do they do that? I think it's their complete misunderstanding (through miseducation by the English powers and misrepersentation by Irish powers) of the real feeling towards English dominance in any walk of life. They simply don't know there is a problem with our relationship.

Oh God!!! I thought you were Adam Ant. Yuuukkkkk!!!!!!!!

And in other news, Boyzone are back together.

Surely if it were to be true it would suit the long term Unionist agenda for it not to be said? And if it's untrue, it would suit the Unionist agenda for it to be said?

If it were true I'm sure the DUP would get someone with a little more credit than Simpson to say it. This guy Simpson has as much credit on both sides of the community re Republicans as Bertie has re his finance, which is none. However if it suits your agenda you'll defend it.

I have twice gone along to Windsor Park to support the real Ireland side,

WTF? How do you come to the conclucion there is a real Irish side?

I'm going to post this crap on the-grinds your gears thread. Arrgh!!!

We also had snow for atleast one week every year in the 80s. I don't miss it now as I'm an adult but I loved it as a kid.

We were also missing a number of other regular players

Slightly contradictive?