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People born with a longer leg already have intrinsic advantages in football:

1. They can move the ball out of danger further.

2. They can attempt and take scores from distances that are impossible for most footballers.

3. When in the scoring zone - around the D - they can score with little more than a deft flick. It's still a difficult kick for most.

Why we would want any rule that hands this group a further - and absolutely f**king giant - advantage just bewilders me.

You can do leg weights and practice kicking all day every day, and your gains will be marginal. You simply cannot put 5 yards onto your kick.

So this isn't rewarding skill and practice, any more than would be awarding a point for running fast.

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Basketball comparisons are apples and pears. Any 13 year old can drop them in from 3-point range. I'd estimate that 50% of county players and 75% of club players couldn't point from 45m in calm conditions.

4 points for a goal would become the embodiment of the law of unintended consequences.

Prince is not a good choice for this sort of caper.

Musical genius, no doubt. But he wouldn't have 8 songs that the average man on the street knows, let alone would vouch for. Shortening that to 3 isn't going to prove anything or spark any form of conversation.

Folks I've just stumbled upon this thread.

Curious to know why Gilford in County Down currently does not have a GAA club? Is there the potential there to create a club - thinking land and playing numbers.

I know Tullylish is the local club in the parish, but with it being approx. 3 mile out of Gilford in Lawrencetown and a growing population in Gilford surely there would be demand for a new club in the village? New housing developments in recent years has seen a lot of people come into the area (almost becoming a commuter village given proximity to Banbridge A1 etc) and its also clear to see a lot of GAA jerseys being worn in the village/kids playing football, hurling and comogie... The population of the local school St John's is also growing. I'm wondering would Tullylish survive if a new club was created in Gilford village also? Competition can be a good thing and Tullylish still have a big catchment area.

A club on your doorstep where the local people can go within walking distance is hard to beat. Would be great for local community... Would welcome peoples thoughts on the matter and also has anyone thought about similar towns or villages in the north that could potentially start a new club?

Gilford to Tullylish GAC is what, 2-3 miles?

That's as good as on top of each other when it comes to rural GAA.

Tullylish have also developed some of the best facilities in the county the past decade.

Why on earth would anybody want to run another club against that instead of joining in?

If you'd like GAA in Gilford, petition for the council to build and maintain a GAA field. It would for all intents and purposes become Tullylish's second facility.

It's finally endgame for City. Even if they can win their lawsuit, they're going to find out pretty soon, that in order to play football, you need opponents willing to play you, and independent bodies willing to administer the matches.

And in order to play high-profile football of the sports washing variety, one has to occasionally deign to the institutions that control this sphere. In short, cheat within the levels of acceptability.

Now it would of course be a bloody good time for football to put its house firmly in order, and help prevent this sort of situation happening again. But no. It won't. That would be too easy.

That was brilliant from Armagh. No silly shit. No staying just in front. Just owned the game.

They have the potential to that against anyone apart from Dublin. But it's still their best approach to beating Dublin.

The foot block is a non-issue. It wasn't a foot block. Mayo got a penalty that was never a penalty but a free out. They won by 2 points. It was the difference in the end in a game where there was never much in it until that decision. It is what it is. Life bees that way sometimes.

Maybe. But Roscommon's penalty was a penalty at all. There was barely contact.

Could anyone who thinks that was a footblock explain their understanding of the rule and of what happened?
It was nowhere near a footlocker imo and I'm genuinely amazed at how many people think it was.

Everybody knows it wasn't a foot block. But GAA culture leans towards claiming ignorance and willingly cheat,rather than accept defeat. 

Am I the only one who thinks this will be alot closer than what people think?
I'm just thinking of 2019 and the echo chamber on Twitter. There was speculation it could be no overall majority like 2017 (was 9/4 with the bookies) and the Tories ended up with a majority of 80!

I think there's going to be a complete obliteration, and we are unlikely the see the Tories contend for power again until the 2040s.

The parties themselves know it. The MSM know it. Twitter is now just polarised opinions instead of one way opinions, and isn't relevant.

It's a formality.

The key outcome in our futures isn't the result of this election, but when (if) Labour begin to implement socialist policies. I'd prefer they want hard and quick at it, but a slow bleed over the next decade  is the more prudent approach in a country that innately is not socialist.

There is a solution of sorts staring us in the face, basically copy the NFL.

- discard the provincials completely.
- Create 8 x regional sections of 4.
- Each season, all teams play 12 group stage games, 6 home and 6 away.
- 6 of those fixtures would see home and aways against the 3 teams in their section.
- The other 6 fixtures would be devised semi-randomly based on the previous season's final standings. 2 of the games would be against teams from the top third of the rankings. 2 against teams from the middle third. 2 against teams from the bottom third. Will there be anomalies? Of course. But so has every system.
- Each of the 8 teams that win their section goes through to a last 16 knockout game, with a home fixture.
- Their 8 opponents are the highest ranking teams that didn't win their section. Ie if you finish 4th in your section with 14 points, you outrank any second placed teams with 13 points. There could be 3 of these "wildcards" from one section, none from another.
- Quarter finals would see the 4 highest ranking winners at home, with the 4 lowest ranking winners visiting them.
- The rest is self explanatory.
- No need for a Tailteann Cup. Every county will have played 12 competitive matches and will know where they stand.

The key to this approach is that a "group of death" doesn't mean a quick death.

The other key to it is that as all teams are always being ranked, then there is always something to play for.

It also encourages local derbies initially, but ensures that the knockout stages are represented by the four corners of the country.

Americans are by and large idiots. But  nobody does equality in sport like them.

The year is 2038.

Tyrone are tailing off in a tight affair.

There's 15 mins to go.

Cathal McShane comes on.

Tyrone continue tailing off.

I can understand provincial winners getting a home advantage first game but asking Ros to play Dublin and then a rested Mayo following Saturday is not a level playing field in the group stages. But then again sure that's nothing to be complainin' about - have you heard a Cork hurling game was not free to air and they had to watch on GAAGo? The tyranny.

County football isn't fair full stop. You could f**k around with championship structures and dates every year for the rest of your life, but for as long as the bigger counties get multiple bites of the cherry, then the smaller counties will get no closer to winning Sam.

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Croke Park should be a concert venue only at this time of year. Every game hosted in it looks like an old women's FA cup final ie crap.

Morning Glory.

Thats it. Think I'd too much oasis at uni. Like southern comfort. Can't face it anymore.

If Toney goes, he goes for pens only.

Ah I dunno. He's a proper centre forward. England are falling down with wingers / outside forwards but they need a back up / rotation for Kane, and Toney is the best option i'd think.

Always good to have a tournament on in the summer for a few weeks.England pre tournament favourites but think they have issues at centre half and left back which will winder their progress.Germans on home soil and France should be difficult to beat.

I looked at that England squad annouced yesterday and I just thought, I dont see the favourites tag here.  Yes they have some very talented players in the likes of Kane, Foden, Bellingham and even Rice but we all know that they will be set up poorly for a start.  Foden has been Pl player of the year playing in the 10. Bellingham has been playing 10 too. What does Southgate do there... foden to the wing or Bellingham back to being an 8.

Their defence looks poor and will struggle against good attacking units. France would surely be ahead of them.

Very interested to see how Germany go.

The worrying thing is that Southgate grew a set of balls and moved out Rashford and Henderson.

If he continues with picking form players for the tournament (ie not Maguire), and emphasises wingers getting the ball into Kane, then England could be so dangerous.