Quote from: armaghniac on October 10, 2021, 10:39:59 PM
Two thirds of the people in ICU In the ROI who have Covid have not been vaccinated. Now 91% of adults in the ROI have been vaccinated, so that two-thirds is coming out of 9% of the population, so 20 times the rate of responsible people.
Whereas you'd believe that fully, I'd question that. It doesn't add up when you look at death statistics in the north.
People under 40 are not dying in any number up north and they are highest proportion of unvaccinated by a huge percentage. They are the highest proportion of positive cases. They account for over 50% of cases in the past 6/7 weeks yet only account for 0.8% of deaths.
u40s - over 50% of cases, only 0.8% of deaths
over 40s - under 50% of cases 99.2% of deaths
u40s - the least vaccinated cohort
over 40s - the highest vaccinated cohort
Yet we are meant to believe that 67% of people in ICU are unvaccinated? Seems incredible. Do we have a huge amount of unvaccinated over 80s or something?
So how does it stack up that the highest vaccinated groupings are still the ones getting severely ill and dying from Covid, while the unvaccinated are not. That's why these claims simply crumble when scrutinised. Here's a snapshot for you.
This is from the 27th August:
So at the 27th August we had 111k~ positive cases in the u40 category. 11 deaths in the u40 category.
Up until yesterday
On 10th Oct we have 146k~ positive cases in the u40 category, 13 deaths. No further deaths in the 0-19 category in 22k further positive cases. 2 deaths in the 20-39 category in 13k additional cases.
On the other hand we have 25 additional deaths in the 40-59 grouping in 13k~ additional cases and additional 222 deaths of people over the age of 60 in under 13k~ additional cases. It's clear the people getting ill and dying from Covid are those who are elderly or in bad health - to spin it as a vaccination issue does not stand up to the data. So if you're coming on here regurgitating lines you heard that fail any sort of probing of the data, then it merely serves to make you look extremely naive.
The cohort with the highest vaccination rates and least positive cases over 60s saw around 10k cases and over 200 deaths. The cohort with the smallest vaccination rate saw 24k cases and 2 deaths. And you're telling us you're more likely to get seriously ill or die if you're unvaccinated? Incredible. You're more likely to get seriously ill or die if you are elderly, have an underlying health condition or are in poor health. These are the people who need to get vaccinated and these are the people who need to take the necessary precautions and those who interact with them need to do so.
What's more selfish?
A vaccinated healthcare worker heading over to England at the weekened to go out on a weekend in Liverpool in packed pubs or an unvaccinated healthcare worker who limits her social contacts? Who poses the greatest threat to contraction and transmission of the virus?
Some of you chaps seem utterly incapable of analysing what you are being told and what you are regurgitating.