NFL Division 1 2022

[yellowcard]

Why no footage of the man who apparently started it all off? Michael Murphy. Very grainy footage with selective bits left in and nobody highlighted out.

It's probably lucky the Sunday Game were under time constraints tonight and that it was Whelan and McStay in studio. Knowing the way things work in GAA it wouldn't surprise me if both counties get a small fine and everybody is happy (except Tyrone).

[Solo_run]

There wil be a few armagh and Donegal players sweating alright. You didn't have to slow it down to see a few digs and headlocks. Bad enough getting suspended for a league game but for the championship it's completely stupid. However I have a feeling there won't be any suspensions handed out.

Which players are you talking about?

Couldn't see their numbers as most of it seem to be from the subs  on both teams and the Sunday game footage was short. However there definitely was strikes and at least 2 headlocks . Like I said I don't think they will be any major action take as sure everyone knows the rules are as inconsistent as can be.

True. HQ only seen to take retrospective action against big teams like Tyrone. Perennial failures like Armagh get away with their brand of dirt since it never gets them anywhere

Armagh living in your head rent free as they say.

Now to be fair there is a right few digs and head locks there. Number 15 for armagh at 19seconds clear punch in the head. Sub for Armagh at 29 seconds clear headlock. Donegal player at 44 seconds strikes armagh  player

https://twitter.com/TheSundayGame/status/1508193364159733767?t=WYP2hoiINajAMsCGTNyzWg&s=19

There are certainly plenty of incidents and Jamar Hall is going to be lucky. O'Donnell shoved him forcefully in the back to the floor while he was walking away. A few seconds later he has Hall in a headlock and throws him to the ground. Hall was livid and retaliates.

There is a Donegal player who I cannot identify who was going around looking to start a few fights. At one point the player forceful pushes his head - could interpret it as a headbutt into O'Neills face. The same guy grabbed McCabe by the throat, Sheridan was involved and looks to have struck him 

McMenamin appears to have struck Duffy in the face

Again I would say a degree of common sense needs to be applied when looking at these incidents in hindsight. They are in the heat of the moment and a kind of fight or flight response takes overs. The issue is with the gaa trying to stamp their authority on it they often are inconsistent with how they apply the rules themselves.

They are now in the difficult position that they have to try and be consistant ahead of the championship otherwise the whole thing is a shambles.

The problem is with a lot of it - though from my end is the clarity of the pictures. The most obvious suspensions for me are Hall and Sheridan for Armagh. I think it was the Donegal sub goalkeeper going around starting on every other Armagh player - I think 5 players in total. The other clear cut hit was from McMenamin into the face of Duffy. I think they will be the four that are suspended.

Something definitely happened to Grugan before the referee whistled.

[Solo_run]

Why no footage of the man who apparently started it all off? Michael Murphy. Very grainy footage with selective bits left in and nobody highlighted out.

It's probably lucky the Sunday Game were under time constraints tonight and that it was Whelan and McStay in studio. Knowing the way things work in GAA it wouldn't surprise me if both counties get a small fine and everybody is happy (except Tyrone).

This is the problem with it. Even if they did give out suspensions the footage is not clear enough - a lot of the time it is filling in the blanks mentally.

[KickPass]

From the highlights, they have to act as it was numerous sub's, backroom Staff. R O'Neill seems to pop up all to often  in it.

Rian O'neill, talent that he is, is staring at a 12 week ban thanks to McKeever's tactics

[Solo_run]

From the highlights, they have to act as it was numerous sub's, backroom Staff. R O'Neill seems to pop up all to often  in it.

Rian O'neill, talent that he is, is staring at a 12 week ban thanks to McKeever's tactics

Sorry to break your hopes here but he is the one player that wasn't doing anything. He started off trying to pull people apart up and I think it was his brother who was getting started on by the Donegal player I cannot name (possibly their sub GK) who was starting on everyone, he went over pulled him away. Two donegal players started on him and the Donegal sub keeper headbutted him. 

[ONeill]

I thought it was odd that Kerry didn't put Tom O'Sullivan on McCurry. He shut him out last year in the AISF.

[JoG2]

From the highlights, they have to act as it was numerous sub's, backroom Staff. R O'Neill seems to pop up all to often  in it.

Rian O'neill, talent that he is, is staring at a 12 week ban thanks to McKeever's tactics

Sorry to break your hopes here but he is the one player that wasn't doing anything. He started off trying to pull people apart up and I think it was his brother who was getting started on by the Donegal player I cannot name (possibly their sub GK) who was starting on everyone, he went over pulled him away. Two donegal players started on him and the Donegal sub keeper headbutted him.

Just pushing and shoving, now clear punches and a headbutt...with the officials shouldering a fair bit of the blame You're all over the shop

[Solo_run]

From the highlights, they have to act as it was numerous sub's, backroom Staff. R O'Neill seems to pop up all to often  in it.

Rian O'neill, talent that he is, is staring at a 12 week ban thanks to McKeever's tactics

Sorry to break your hopes here but he is the one player that wasn't doing anything. He started off trying to pull people apart up and I think it was his brother who was getting started on by the Donegal player I cannot name (possibly their sub GK) who was starting on everyone, he went over pulled him away. Two donegal players started on him and the Donegal sub keeper headbutted him.

Just pushing and shoving, now clear punches and a headbutt...with the officials shouldering a fair bit of the blame You're all over the shop

Well the latter I didnt say so you need to learn to read.

Secondly, I was happy to look at what happened again - believe it or not watching the footage for 10 seconds on TG4 once wouldn't have been enough

[toby47]

Football is away mad. People coming on here looking 4 or 5 players suspended for that bit of handbags, catch yourselves on.

[J70]

There wil be a few armagh and Donegal players sweating alright. You didn't have to slow it down to see a few digs and headlocks. Bad enough getting suspended for a league game but for the championship it's completely stupid. However I have a feeling there won't be any suspensions handed out.

Which players are you talking about?

Couldn't see their numbers as most of it seem to be from the subs  on both teams and the Sunday game footage was short. However there definitely was strikes and at least 2 headlocks . Like I said I don't think they will be any major action take as sure everyone knows the rules are as inconsistent as can be.

True. HQ only seen to take retrospective action against big teams like Tyrone. Perennial failures like Armagh get away with their brand of dirt since it never gets them anywhere

Armagh living in your head rent free as they say.

Now to be fair there is a right few digs and head locks there. Number 15 for armagh at 19seconds clear punch in the head. Sub for Armagh at 29 seconds clear headlock. Donegal player at 44 seconds strikes armagh  player

https://twitter.com/TheSundayGame/status/1508193364159733767?t=WYP2hoiINajAMsCGTNyzWg&s=19

There are certainly plenty of incidents and Jamar Hall is going to be lucky. O'Donnell shoved him forcefully in the back to the floor while he was walking away. A few seconds later he has Hall in a headlock and throws him to the ground. Hall was livid and retaliates.

There is a Donegal player who I cannot identify who was going around looking to start a few fights. At one point the player forceful pushes his head - could interpret it as a headbutt into O'Neills face. The same guy grabbed McCabe by the throat, Sheridan was involved and looks to have struck him 

McMenamin appears to have struck Duffy in the face

Again I would say a degree of common sense needs to be applied when looking at these incidents in hindsight. They are in the heat of the moment and a kind of fight or flight response takes overs. The issue is with the gaa trying to stamp their authority on it they often are inconsistent with how they apply the rules themselves.

They are now in the difficult position that they have to try and be consistant ahead of the championship otherwise the whole thing is a shambles.

Heat of the moment is a separate issue. It can happen and is easy to penalize. Although I would like to see the mouthing and provocation penalized too.

But the GAA needs to start cracking down on the "all in" shite. Change the rules and start penalizing teams as well as individuals. That'll end it fairly swiftly.

[trueblue1234]

The Armagh ones on here need to take a good hard look at themselves.

Not for anything that happened on the pitch, but for replying to Kickpass.

[Main Street]

Was there not a separate thread where Armagh and Tyrone supporters could bellow their grievances about that melee, the aftermath and anything else only related to Armagh Tyrone rivalry.

[Solo_run]

Was there not a separate thread where Armagh and Tyrone supporters could bellow their grievances about that melee, the aftermath and anything else only related to Armagh Tyrone rivalry.

Might as well start an "Donegal vs Armagh USFC Semi-Final Ballybofey 24/04/22" thread considering yesterday's game is going to have an impact on that one   

[armaghniac]

Heat of the moment is a separate issue. It can happen and is easy to penalize. Although I would like to see the mouthing and provocation penalized too.

But the GAA needs to start cracking down on the "all in" shite. Change the rules and start penalizing teams as well as individuals. That'll end it fairly swiftly.

This is the point, this 'all in' craic has to be stopped, especially when you gave subs piling in who were not in the heat of battle.

Perhaps there should also be a rule that teams have go to their own half at the end of games.

[Never beat the deeler]

Was there not a separate thread where Armagh and Tyrone supporters could bellow their grievances about that melee, the aftermath and anything else only related to Armagh Tyrone rivalry.

Might as well start an "Donegal vs Armagh USFC Semi-Final Ballybofey 24/04/22" thread considering yesterday's game is going to have an impact on that one   

its a feckin UFC thread ye need, not a USFC one