Gerry's moving south...

[Nally Stand]

your nit picking maguire. what i'm saying is that people here in the north are not lookiing to to past when they are X ing their boxes and following that you have the continual rise in the strenght of sinn fein. voters here will drop whom ever they perceive as not doing their job. 'hot water' i presume yet AGAIN you refer to gerry's personal family business as a measure of his ability to perform his duties as a public representative but you choose to ignore the fact that he was emfactically re-elected. why are you concerned when his constituents are not? and while your at how many 'generations' have voted for sinn fein

I'm sorry Lawseed but is that the ultimate pot calling the kettle black. People in the 6 counties vote for a set of parties based on what their religion is, what their parents religion was, what their grandparents religion was, etc. etc. etc.

I have yet to see that happen in the 26 counties.

Correction Mayo, Not along lines of religion, but along lines of Unionist/Loyalist or Nationalist/Republican.

I know absolutely no one who votes for candidates based on their religion. The likes of Billy Leonard (SF) is a Protestant and a former RUC part time reservist. He still got elected as a Cllr and I doubt if many unionists voted for him "because he is a Protestant". He was elected by Republicans & Nationalists because of his politics, and his religion is nothing to do with it.

Don't fall into the trap of perpetuating the myth that the conflict in the north was over religion!

Political lines follow religious lines fairly much. Are there any examples other than Billy Leonard? On either side?

I don't know the religion of every elected rep but I'd be very shocked if there were not numerous other examples. Former UUP MLA John Gorman also springs to mind. Either way my point is that it wouldn't be all that important. I raised the example of Billy Leonard as he is the most high profile cllr in that regard. I am a SF supporter and if every local SF candidate standing for election in my area were Protestant it would make zero difference to me or anybody else locally who support SF, they would still get the votes based on their politics. I'm not being blind and denying that there is a religious divide but my point it that Mayo is incorrect in saying that people vote along religious lines. As I say, people tend to vote in terms of their beliefs on the constitutional issue.

Obviously there are pricks out there who would not vote for someone with their own political views if they had "the wrong religion", but such pricks are in the minority. I don't know anyone like that anyway.

I don't think there are numerous other examples. We can all name Billy Leonard because he's an exception to the rule.
Oh, and he's now an MLA.

Maguire, you are honing in on the issue of the religion of elected reps and ignoring the actual point of my post, and I don't know if it is deliberate or not so I will spell it out again. I believe that, contrary to Mayo's claim, most people in the six counties vote for their candidates based on their position on the constitutional issue and not based on their religion. I am not denying that there is a link between the constitutional issue and religion, but people, in the voting booth are not going to vote for a condidate based on their religion over their republican/nationalist/unionist/loyalist politics. Talking of how many Nationalist candidates are Protestant or vice versa isn't the issue. I raised Billy Leonard to show that people don't care that he is a Protestant. I don't think the people of Coleraine are the only constituency where people would elect a Protestant Republican candidate given the opportunity and nor do I believe that there is anything so overwhelming about Bily that he is the only Protestant that nationalists would ever vote for. If there were many others like him, I'm sure they would show a similar story. Of course most nationalist candidates are Catholic and most Unionist candidates are Protestant, but that is not to say that people will only vote for them for such religious convictions.

Your missing the entire point Nally Stand. Evil Genius born in your house to your parents and babtised/christened into your church, we would see the defender of Republicanism and a United Ireland proponant. Nally Stand born to EG's parents and babtised/christened into his church and we would see Nally Stand the pro-Unionist, I'm Irish-British viewpoint.

Its all about the Religion.

And what makes that any more about the influence of his Church than that of his parents? Its not all about religion. You say people vote along religious lines. They don't. They vote along lines of stance on the constitutional issue. It just so happens that for vaious historic reasons, and the old British divide & conquer tactic, that the religious divide is mirrored in the the political divide. You seem to think I am unaware of the fact that most Nationalists/Republicans are Catholic and most Unionists/Loyalists are Protestant. Believe me, I think I know that much.
If the constitutional issue was not the main selling point for a politician, why wouldn't they be subtly emphasising their religion/faith rather than their nationalilsm/unionism when electioneering? How would the Billy Leonards (SF) or the John Gormans (UUP) of this world have ever gotten themselves elected if people voted along religious lines? They were men elected probably exclusively by people from the other main religion from theirs. I doubt if many Unionists voted for Cllr Billy Leonard (SF) because he was a good Protestant, for instance. It is for historic reasons that most Protestants are Unionist and most Catholics are Nationalist, hence most elected reps will be from said communities on each side, however the people I referred to are living examples of the point that at the polling stations, people don't give a toss what your religion is as long as you agree with them on the constitutional issue.

[mayogodhelpus@gmail.com]

your nit picking maguire. what i'm saying is that people here in the north are not lookiing to to past when they are X ing their boxes and following that you have the continual rise in the strenght of sinn fein. voters here will drop whom ever they perceive as not doing their job. 'hot water' i presume yet AGAIN you refer to gerry's personal family business as a measure of his ability to perform his duties as a public representative but you choose to ignore the fact that he was emfactically re-elected. why are you concerned when his constituents are not? and while your at how many 'generations' have voted for sinn fein

I'm sorry Lawseed but is that the ultimate pot calling the kettle black. People in the 6 counties vote for a set of parties based on what their religion is, what their parents religion was, what their grandparents religion was, etc. etc. etc.

I have yet to see that happen in the 26 counties.

Correction Mayo, Not along lines of religion, but along lines of Unionist/Loyalist or Nationalist/Republican.

I know absolutely no one who votes for candidates based on their religion. The likes of Billy Leonard (SF) is a Protestant and a former RUC part time reservist. He still got elected as a Cllr and I doubt if many unionists voted for him "because he is a Protestant". He was elected by Republicans & Nationalists because of his politics, and his religion is nothing to do with it.

Don't fall into the trap of perpetuating the myth that the conflict in the north was over religion!

Political lines follow religious lines fairly much. Are there any examples other than Billy Leonard? On either side?

I don't know the religion of every elected rep but I'd be very shocked if there were not numerous other examples. Former UUP MLA John Gorman also springs to mind. Either way my point is that it wouldn't be all that important. I raised the example of Billy Leonard as he is the most high profile cllr in that regard. I am a SF supporter and if every local SF candidate standing for election in my area were Protestant it would make zero difference to me or anybody else locally who support SF, they would still get the votes based on their politics. I'm not being blind and denying that there is a religious divide but my point it that Mayo is incorrect in saying that people vote along religious lines. As I say, people tend to vote in terms of their beliefs on the constitutional issue.

Obviously there are pricks out there who would not vote for someone with their own political views if they had "the wrong religion", but such pricks are in the minority. I don't know anyone like that anyway.

I don't think there are numerous other examples. We can all name Billy Leonard because he's an exception to the rule.
Oh, and he's now an MLA.

Maguire, you are honing in on the issue of the religion of elected reps and ignoring the actual point of my post, and I don't know if it is deliberate or not so I will spell it out again. I believe that, contrary to Mayo's claim, most people in the six counties vote for their candidates based on their position on the constitutional issue and not based on their religion. I am not denying that there is a link between the constitutional issue and religion, but people, in the voting booth are not going to vote for a condidate based on their religion over their republican/nationalist/unionist/loyalist politics. Talking of how many Nationalist candidates are Protestant or vice versa isn't the issue. I raised Billy Leonard to show that people don't care that he is a Protestant. I don't think the people of Coleraine are the only constituency where people would elect a Protestant Republican candidate given the opportunity and nor do I believe that there is anything so overwhelming about Bily that he is the only Protestant that nationalists would ever vote for. If there were many others like him, I'm sure they would show a similar story. Of course most nationalist candidates are Catholic and most Unionist candidates are Protestant, but that is not to say that people will only vote for them for such religious convictions.

Your missing the entire point Nally Stand. Evil Genius born in your house to your parents and babtised/christened into your church, we would see the defender of Republicanism and a United Ireland proponant. Nally Stand born to EG's parents and babtised/christened into his church and we would see Nally Stand the pro-Unionist, I'm Irish-British viewpoint.

Its all about the Religion.

And what makes that any more about the influence of his Church than that of his parents? Its not all about religion. You say people vote along religious lines. They don't. They vote along lines of stance on the constitutional issue. It just so happens that for vaious historic reasons, and the old British divide & conquer tactic, that the religious divide is mirrored in the the political divide. You seem to think I am unaware of the fact that most Nationalists/Republicans are Catholic and most Unionists/Loyalists are Protestant. Believe me, I think I know that much.
If the constitutional issue was not the main selling point for a politician, why wouldn't they be subtly emphasising their religion/faith rather than their nationalilsm/unionism when electioneering? How would the Billy Leonards (SF) or the John Gormans (UUP) of this world have ever gotten themselves elected if people voted along religious lines? They were men elected probably exclusively by people from the other main religion from theirs. I doubt if many Unionists voted for Cllr Billy Leonard (SF) because he was a good Protestant, for instance. It is for historic reasons that most Protestants are Unionist and most Catholics are Nationalist, hence most elected reps will be from said communities on each side, however the people I referred to are living examples of the point that at the polling stations, people don't give a toss what your religion is as long as you agree with them on the constitutional issue.

A yes but how many Catholics jump ship to Unionist parties and how many Protestants jump ship to Nationalist ones, you are no better than people in the 26 counties.

I'm pretty sure in the Republic FG, Labour, SF, Greens, Socialists, Independents & FF draw from Catholic, Protestant and Jewish backgrounds. I cannot comment on the other religious groups as I am not fully aware of their voting patterns.

[Nally Stand]

your nit picking maguire. what i'm saying is that people here in the north are not lookiing to to past when they are X ing their boxes and following that you have the continual rise in the strenght of sinn fein. voters here will drop whom ever they perceive as not doing their job. 'hot water' i presume yet AGAIN you refer to gerry's personal family business as a measure of his ability to perform his duties as a public representative but you choose to ignore the fact that he was emfactically re-elected. why are you concerned when his constituents are not? and while your at how many 'generations' have voted for sinn fein

I'm sorry Lawseed but is that the ultimate pot calling the kettle black. People in the 6 counties vote for a set of parties based on what their religion is, what their parents religion was, what their grandparents religion was, etc. etc. etc.

I have yet to see that happen in the 26 counties.

Correction Mayo, Not along lines of religion, but along lines of Unionist/Loyalist or Nationalist/Republican.

I know absolutely no one who votes for candidates based on their religion. The likes of Billy Leonard (SF) is a Protestant and a former RUC part time reservist. He still got elected as a Cllr and I doubt if many unionists voted for him "because he is a Protestant". He was elected by Republicans & Nationalists because of his politics, and his religion is nothing to do with it.

Don't fall into the trap of perpetuating the myth that the conflict in the north was over religion!

Political lines follow religious lines fairly much. Are there any examples other than Billy Leonard? On either side?

I don't know the religion of every elected rep but I'd be very shocked if there were not numerous other examples. Former UUP MLA John Gorman also springs to mind. Either way my point is that it wouldn't be all that important. I raised the example of Billy Leonard as he is the most high profile cllr in that regard. I am a SF supporter and if every local SF candidate standing for election in my area were Protestant it would make zero difference to me or anybody else locally who support SF, they would still get the votes based on their politics. I'm not being blind and denying that there is a religious divide but my point it that Mayo is incorrect in saying that people vote along religious lines. As I say, people tend to vote in terms of their beliefs on the constitutional issue.

Obviously there are pricks out there who would not vote for someone with their own political views if they had "the wrong religion", but such pricks are in the minority. I don't know anyone like that anyway.

I don't think there are numerous other examples. We can all name Billy Leonard because he's an exception to the rule.
Oh, and he's now an MLA.

Maguire, you are honing in on the issue of the religion of elected reps and ignoring the actual point of my post, and I don't know if it is deliberate or not so I will spell it out again. I believe that, contrary to Mayo's claim, most people in the six counties vote for their candidates based on their position on the constitutional issue and not based on their religion. I am not denying that there is a link between the constitutional issue and religion, but people, in the voting booth are not going to vote for a condidate based on their religion over their republican/nationalist/unionist/loyalist politics. Talking of how many Nationalist candidates are Protestant or vice versa isn't the issue. I raised Billy Leonard to show that people don't care that he is a Protestant. I don't think the people of Coleraine are the only constituency where people would elect a Protestant Republican candidate given the opportunity and nor do I believe that there is anything so overwhelming about Bily that he is the only Protestant that nationalists would ever vote for. If there were many others like him, I'm sure they would show a similar story. Of course most nationalist candidates are Catholic and most Unionist candidates are Protestant, but that is not to say that people will only vote for them for such religious convictions.

Your missing the entire point Nally Stand. Evil Genius born in your house to your parents and babtised/christened into your church, we would see the defender of Republicanism and a United Ireland proponant. Nally Stand born to EG's parents and babtised/christened into his church and we would see Nally Stand the pro-Unionist, I'm Irish-British viewpoint.

Its all about the Religion.

And what makes that any more about the influence of his Church than that of his parents? Its not all about religion. You say people vote along religious lines. They don't. They vote along lines of stance on the constitutional issue. It just so happens that for vaious historic reasons, and the old British divide & conquer tactic, that the religious divide is mirrored in the the political divide. You seem to think I am unaware of the fact that most Nationalists/Republicans are Catholic and most Unionists/Loyalists are Protestant. Believe me, I think I know that much.
If the constitutional issue was not the main selling point for a politician, why wouldn't they be subtly emphasising their religion/faith rather than their nationalilsm/unionism when electioneering? How would the Billy Leonards (SF) or the John Gormans (UUP) of this world have ever gotten themselves elected if people voted along religious lines? They were men elected probably exclusively by people from the other main religion from theirs. I doubt if many Unionists voted for Cllr Billy Leonard (SF) because he was a good Protestant, for instance. It is for historic reasons that most Protestants are Unionist and most Catholics are Nationalist, hence most elected reps will be from said communities on each side, however the people I referred to are living examples of the point that at the polling stations, people don't give a toss what your religion is as long as you agree with them on the constitutional issue.

A yes but how many Catholics jump ship to Unionist parties and how many Protestants jump ship to Nationalist ones, you are no better than people in the 26 counties.

I'm pretty sure in the Republic FG, Labour, SF, Greens, Socialists, Independents & FF draw from Catholic, Protestant and Jewish backgrounds. I cannot comment on the other religious groups as I am not fully aware of their voting patterns.

Very few jump ship. I alluded to this in my last post. You are almost implying still that I don't realise most unionist party members are Protestants and most nationalist party members are Catholics. that is because most Unionists are Protestants and most Catholics are Nationalist! There are obvious mirrored images between religion and position on the constitutional issue, but as someone who has lived in the six counties all my life, I have never once met anyone who uses religion over position on the constitutional issue as their main decision maker or breaker when it comes to voting.
If people were concerned with religion more so than the constitutional issue, then you still have not explained to me how someone like Billy Leonard, a Protestant Republican, could get elected with votes which came, I'm guessing almost EXCLUSIVELY, from people of a different religion from him? I know not many jump ship, but surely, if religion was the big factor, someone who did jump ship would be doomed to fail from the word go as an election candidate?? Otherwise there must be something truely amazing about Billy or else the people of Coleraine who elected him are somehow different from the rest of the people in the 6 counties. Hardly.
And I'm not suggesting that people in the south are any better or worse than in the north. Circumstances are different. The south of Ireland did not get planted by settlers to the same degree and so there was not the same proportionately large Protestant population in the south to maintain a strong unionist opposition to Irish Independence. If there was, then the south would also be voting on lines in relation to the constitutional issue where one side just happened to be Catholic and one Protestant.
I regard us as one nation of people. Circumstances have us in different positions, no more no less.

[mayogodhelpus@gmail.com]

your nit picking maguire. what i'm saying is that people here in the north are not lookiing to to past when they are X ing their boxes and following that you have the continual rise in the strenght of sinn fein. voters here will drop whom ever they perceive as not doing their job. 'hot water' i presume yet AGAIN you refer to gerry's personal family business as a measure of his ability to perform his duties as a public representative but you choose to ignore the fact that he was emfactically re-elected. why are you concerned when his constituents are not? and while your at how many 'generations' have voted for sinn fein

I'm sorry Lawseed but is that the ultimate pot calling the kettle black. People in the 6 counties vote for a set of parties based on what their religion is, what their parents religion was, what their grandparents religion was, etc. etc. etc.

I have yet to see that happen in the 26 counties.

Correction Mayo, Not along lines of religion, but along lines of Unionist/Loyalist or Nationalist/Republican.

I know absolutely no one who votes for candidates based on their religion. The likes of Billy Leonard (SF) is a Protestant and a former RUC part time reservist. He still got elected as a Cllr and I doubt if many unionists voted for him "because he is a Protestant". He was elected by Republicans & Nationalists because of his politics, and his religion is nothing to do with it.

Don't fall into the trap of perpetuating the myth that the conflict in the north was over religion!

Political lines follow religious lines fairly much. Are there any examples other than Billy Leonard? On either side?

I don't know the religion of every elected rep but I'd be very shocked if there were not numerous other examples. Former UUP MLA John Gorman also springs to mind. Either way my point is that it wouldn't be all that important. I raised the example of Billy Leonard as he is the most high profile cllr in that regard. I am a SF supporter and if every local SF candidate standing for election in my area were Protestant it would make zero difference to me or anybody else locally who support SF, they would still get the votes based on their politics. I'm not being blind and denying that there is a religious divide but my point it that Mayo is incorrect in saying that people vote along religious lines. As I say, people tend to vote in terms of their beliefs on the constitutional issue.

Obviously there are pricks out there who would not vote for someone with their own political views if they had "the wrong religion", but such pricks are in the minority. I don't know anyone like that anyway.

I don't think there are numerous other examples. We can all name Billy Leonard because he's an exception to the rule.
Oh, and he's now an MLA.

Maguire, you are honing in on the issue of the religion of elected reps and ignoring the actual point of my post, and I don't know if it is deliberate or not so I will spell it out again. I believe that, contrary to Mayo's claim, most people in the six counties vote for their candidates based on their position on the constitutional issue and not based on their religion. I am not denying that there is a link between the constitutional issue and religion, but people, in the voting booth are not going to vote for a condidate based on their religion over their republican/nationalist/unionist/loyalist politics. Talking of how many Nationalist candidates are Protestant or vice versa isn't the issue. I raised Billy Leonard to show that people don't care that he is a Protestant. I don't think the people of Coleraine are the only constituency where people would elect a Protestant Republican candidate given the opportunity and nor do I believe that there is anything so overwhelming about Bily that he is the only Protestant that nationalists would ever vote for. If there were many others like him, I'm sure they would show a similar story. Of course most nationalist candidates are Catholic and most Unionist candidates are Protestant, but that is not to say that people will only vote for them for such religious convictions.

Your missing the entire point Nally Stand. Evil Genius born in your house to your parents and babtised/christened into your church, we would see the defender of Republicanism and a United Ireland proponant. Nally Stand born to EG's parents and babtised/christened into his church and we would see Nally Stand the pro-Unionist, I'm Irish-British viewpoint.

Its all about the Religion.

And what makes that any more about the influence of his Church than that of his parents? Its not all about religion. You say people vote along religious lines. They don't. They vote along lines of stance on the constitutional issue. It just so happens that for vaious historic reasons, and the old British divide & conquer tactic, that the religious divide is mirrored in the the political divide. You seem to think I am unaware of the fact that most Nationalists/Republicans are Catholic and most Unionists/Loyalists are Protestant. Believe me, I think I know that much.
If the constitutional issue was not the main selling point for a politician, why wouldn't they be subtly emphasising their religion/faith rather than their nationalilsm/unionism when electioneering? How would the Billy Leonards (SF) or the John Gormans (UUP) of this world have ever gotten themselves elected if people voted along religious lines? They were men elected probably exclusively by people from the other main religion from theirs. I doubt if many Unionists voted for Cllr Billy Leonard (SF) because he was a good Protestant, for instance. It is for historic reasons that most Protestants are Unionist and most Catholics are Nationalist, hence most elected reps will be from said communities on each side, however the people I referred to are living examples of the point that at the polling stations, people don't give a toss what your religion is as long as you agree with them on the constitutional issue.

A yes but how many Catholics jump ship to Unionist parties and how many Protestants jump ship to Nationalist ones, you are no better than people in the 26 counties.

I'm pretty sure in the Republic FG, Labour, SF, Greens, Socialists, Independents & FF draw from Catholic, Protestant and Jewish backgrounds. I cannot comment on the other religious groups as I am not fully aware of their voting patterns.

Very few jump ship. I alluded to this in my last post. You are almost implying still that I don't realise most unionist party members are Protestants and most nationalist party members are Catholics. that is because most Unionists are Protestants and most Catholics are Nationalist! There are obvious mirrored images between religion and position on the constitutional issue, but as someone who has lived in the six counties all my life, I have never once met anyone who uses religion over position on the constitutional issue as their main decision maker or breaker when it comes to voting.
If people were concerned with religion more so than the constitutional issue, then you still have not explained to me how someone like Billy Leonard, a Protestant Republican, could get elected with votes which came, I'm guessing almost EXCLUSIVELY, from people of a different religion from him? I know not many jump ship, but surely, if religion was the big factor, someone who did jump ship would be doomed to fail from the word go as an election candidate?? Otherwise there must be something truely amazing about Billy or else the people of Coleraine who elected him are somehow different from the rest of the people in the 6 counties. Hardly.
And I'm not suggesting that people in the south are any better or worse than in the north. Circumstances are different. The south of Ireland did not get planted by settlers to the same degree and so there was not the same proportionately large Protestant population in the south to maintain a strong unionist opposition to Irish Independence. If there was, then the south would also be voting on lines in relation to the constitutional issue where one side just happened to be Catholic and one Protestant.
I regard us as one nation of people. Circumstances have us in different positions, no more no less.

I'm sure you meant the other 3 provinces rather than the South, which will always mean Munster to me. Remember 3 Ulster counties in the Republic and parts of Leitrim was in the Ulster plantation. 



Unrelated to the Catholic-Protestant issue but other major Post-Gaelic settlements of Ireland

Greatest extent of Norman Rule


Until the Confederacy of Kilkenny the division between Gaelic Catholics and Hiberno-English/Norman Catholics was as great or even greater than the Protestant-Catholic divide in the North-Eastern 6 counties.

Viking Settlement

[Peter Solan the Great]

A PSNI officer and his family have been forced to leave their home in Co Fermanagh after the discovery of a device.

http://www.rte.ie/news/2010/1223/fermanagh.html


PSNI - Officer's home targeted in attack
A PSNI officer and his family have been forced to leave their home in Maguiresbridge in Co Fermanagh after the discovery of a device.
The suspected grenade was found outside the policeman's home in Drumeer Road at about 8pm yesterday.
Police said the road remains closed and a security operation in the area is continuing.
Dissident republicans are being blamed for the incident.
SDLP Fermanagh and South Tyrone MLA Tommy Gallagher said the Maguiresbridge incident was cowardly.
'While it is yet unclear who is responsible, their actions will be wholeheartedly condemned by everyone in our community,' he said.
'Their cowardly actions - attacking a family in their own home during the Christmas period - are in stark contrast to the bravery of those who continue to serve our community in the Police Service of Northern Ireland.
'I would appeal for anyone with information as to who was responsible to bring it to the PSNI without delay.'


You nordies are animals.

[Rossfan]

Greatest extent of Norman Rule


Until the Confederacy of Kilkenny the division between Gaelic Catholics and Hiberno-English/Norman Catholics was as great or even greater than the Protestant-Catholic divide in the North-Eastern 6 counties.

Viking Settlement

Normans never penetrated North Roscommon/Leitrim.
First Gall settling in these parts only arrived in 1604.
Some tried marching through in 1599 but got short shrift at the Battle of the Curlieus.

[mayogodhelpus@gmail.com]

A PSNI officer and his family have been forced to leave their home in Co Fermanagh after the discovery of a device.

You nordies are animals.

Noticed this and refused to read what you posted.

So PSTG you hate people from the 6 counties, FF, SF, Enda Kenny, Castlebar, Castlebar Mitchels, Castlebarside of Islandeady, Ballina, the rest of Mayo, Roscommon, Dublin who else?

[mayogodhelpus@gmail.com]

Greatest extent of Norman Rule


Until the Confederacy of Kilkenny the division between Gaelic Catholics and Hiberno-English/Norman Catholics was as great or even greater than the Protestant-Catholic divide in the North-Eastern 6 counties.

Viking Settlement

Normans never penetrated North Roscommon/Leitrim.
First Gall settling in these parts only arrived in 1604.
Some tried marching through in 1599 but got short shrift at the Battle of the Curlieus.

Map seems to agree with you on the Leitrim bit, maybe it is a bit inaccurate as to the extent in Roscommon. Other than the Barrys and Burkes/Barratts/MacWilliams not sure how much of Mayo was under their control. Then again lots of Prendergasts in Mayo too.

The Wests Awake (except one poor soul over in Westport)
http://video.ireland.com/video/iLyROoafMifE.html

[whiskeysteve]

A PSNI officer and his family have been forced to leave their home in Co Fermanagh after the discovery of a device.

http://www.rte.ie/news/2010/1223/fermanagh.html


PSNI - Officer's home targeted in attack
A PSNI officer and his family have been forced to leave their home in Maguiresbridge in Co Fermanagh after the discovery of a device.
The suspected grenade was found outside the policeman's home in Drumeer Road at about 8pm yesterday.
Police said the road remains closed and a security operation in the area is continuing.
Dissident republicans are being blamed for the incident.
SDLP Fermanagh and South Tyrone MLA Tommy Gallagher said the Maguiresbridge incident was cowardly.
'While it is yet unclear who is responsible, their actions will be wholeheartedly condemned by everyone in our community,' he said.
'Their cowardly actions - attacking a family in their own home during the Christmas period - are in stark contrast to the bravery of those who continue to serve our community in the Police Service of Northern Ireland.
'I would appeal for anyone with information as to who was responsible to bring it to the PSNI without delay.'


You nordies are animals.

Using a grenade attack on a family at Christmas as a device to troll the thread with. Sad man.

[whiskeysteve]

also re Billy Leonard from a constituent. A very nice man who I would have the height of respect for. Must also say ive a lot of respect for John Dallat also who has also shown a lot of personal courage in being outspoken against and actually legally pursuing sectarian thugs in the area.

Whatever else the pair of them have unquestionable courage, politically and personally, and I think the nationalist/republican electorate in the area feel lucky to have had them as representatives.

[Nally Stand]

Good posts Whiskey. I've never met John Dallat but he'd be one of the few stoops I'd have much time for, due to his courage. I've met Billy before though once and he was an absolute gentleman. Fascinating to hear him tell his story.

[Saffrongael]

Gerry is struggling on Primetime now.

[bloodybreakball]

is that libellious?

[fearbrags]

What ever about Martin and Adams ,
Miriam O'Callaghan is useless as a Moderator, she should just host Bosco or Wanderly wagon

[bloodybreakball]

I cannot stand her.