Tyrone Club Football and Hurling

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Tyrone Gaa

Quote from: Tyrone95 on November 08, 2021, 04:55:40 PM
Just picked out the top 5 teams and their league games left.

Carrickmore   
- D' Laughan   
- Lmacrory
- Edendork
- Clonoe
- Errigal

Moy
- Errigal
- Donaghmore
- K'clogher
- Edendork

Dromore
- Donaghmore
- Galbally
- Omagh
- Dungannon

Loughmacrory
- Carrickmore
- Pomeroy
- Trillick
- Killyclogher

Clonoe
- C'island
- Omagh
- Carrickmore
- Eglish

All about championship of course but for teams not involved anymore the league offers something to play for and a reward for hard work all year. Should be an interesting run in.

Is it top team wins the league?

Looking at those fixtures, Carrickmore would be big favourites to land the league title provided the squad have that goal. I can't understand why teams undervalue the league. At the start of the year there are only 2 trophies to play for. Moy and Loughmacrory would take your arm off for a division 1 league title. Both would have been seen as relegation candidates at the beginning of the year.
Living the dream!!!

Gaafan2

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Quote from: Mikhailov on November 08, 2021, 09:11:59 PM
Quote from: gaafan2 on November 08, 2021, 08:01:05 PM
Quote from: Tyrone Gaa on November 08, 2021, 03:55:00 PM
Edendork's squad strength and depth isn't there. Barton would have complained about that in past interviews. Without those county men they would probably struggle in intermediate. 3 of the best players in the country so obviously a massive loss but the replacements in the squad not close to that level to compete. Surprising that they have lay down thou. They should still fulfill fixtures despite their fate already determined.

A fine probably is appropriate, or a better sanction to deter this kind of thing in the future would be a points deduction for next season.

Can't make up the rules at this stage but maybe something the CCC should consider for next season

Edendork are in the same boat as ourselves. We just don't have the strength and depth or playing numbers to replace 3 county men and that's the way its always going to be. Unfortunately we dont have the luxury of having 2/3 primary schools or 2/3 primary school classes of the one age to develop players from. For that reason teams like ourselves, galbally, derrylaughan, eglish, greencastle, Aghyaran, kildress etc. will continue to yo yo from division 1 to 2. Every so many years these teams will produce a crop of players that are able to compete in division 1 but ultimately will again drop to division 2.

Outside of the big towns there can't be too many clubs (bar EC) with 2/3 primary schools exclusively for that club or indeed primary schools that house 3 classes per year - surely that is only in the big towns or EC. The clubs with county players are right to feel hard done by, I agree totally but what is the alternative.
In the case of Pomeroy, at least your county men came back match fit - some clubs got their county men back totally lacking game time & match fitness and off the pace.
Tyrone are going to be a contending county for the next few years so I don't know how clubs with county men are going to cope - unfortunately some clubs will suffer that wee bit more than others but there is no alternative solution provided yet.

Errigal ciaran, coalisland, Omagh, killyclogher, dungannon, carrickmore, Trillick, Dromore all have either 2/3 primary schools or 2/3 classes per year, that's a fact. Its no coincidence they are mainstays in division 1. Yes there are exceptions to this, namely Strabane and cookstown but that's through their negligence.

It was too late when we got our county men back, the damage was done. We would have had to win 6 out of 8 to stand a chance of staying up. Big ask when morale was low.

clarshack

Quote from: gaafan2 on November 08, 2021, 08:01:05 PM
Quote from: Tyrone Gaa on November 08, 2021, 03:55:00 PM
Edendork's squad strength and depth isn't there. Barton would have complained about that in past interviews. Without those county men they would probably struggle in intermediate. 3 of the best players in the country so obviously a massive loss but the replacements in the squad not close to that level to compete. Surprising that they have lay down thou. They should still fulfill fixtures despite their fate already determined.

A fine probably is appropriate, or a better sanction to deter this kind of thing in the future would be a points deduction for next season.

Can't make up the rules at this stage but maybe something the CCC should consider for next season

Edendork are in the same boat as ourselves. We just don't have the strength and depth or playing numbers to replace 3 county men and that's the way its always going to be. Unfortunately we dont have the luxury of having 2/3 primary schools or 2/3 primary school classes of the one age to develop players from. For that reason teams like ourselves, galbally, derrylaughan, eglish, greencastle, Aghyaran, kildress etc. will continue to yo yo from division 1 to 2. Every so many years these teams will produce a crop of players that are able to compete in division 1 but ultimately will again drop to division 2.

How many primary schools do Kildress and Eglish get players from?

sam03/05



In the case of Pomeroy, at least your county men came back match fit - some clubs got their county men back totally lacking game time & match fitness and off the pace.
Tyrone are going to be a contending county for the next few years so I don't know how clubs with county men are going to cope - unfortunately some clubs will suffer that wee bit more than others but there is no alternative solution provided yet.
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Simply not true as it will be a split season - they will have a whole club season to get fit

WT4E

Quote from: clarshack on November 08, 2021, 11:16:21 PM
Quote from: gaafan2 on November 08, 2021, 08:01:05 PM
Quote from: Tyrone Gaa on November 08, 2021, 03:55:00 PM
Edendork's squad strength and depth isn't there. Barton would have complained about that in past interviews. Without those county men they would probably struggle in intermediate. 3 of the best players in the country so obviously a massive loss but the replacements in the squad not close to that level to compete. Surprising that they have lay down thou. They should still fulfill fixtures despite their fate already determined.

A fine probably is appropriate, or a better sanction to deter this kind of thing in the future would be a points deduction for next season.

Can't make up the rules at this stage but maybe something the CCC should consider for next season

Edendork are in the same boat as ourselves. We just don't have the strength and depth or playing numbers to replace 3 county men and that's the way its always going to be. Unfortunately we dont have the luxury of having 2/3 primary schools or 2/3 primary school classes of the one age to develop players from. For that reason teams like ourselves, galbally, derrylaughan, eglish, greencastle, Aghyaran, kildress etc. will continue to yo yo from division 1 to 2. Every so many years these teams will produce a crop of players that are able to compete in division 1 but ultimately will again drop to division 2.

How many primary schools do Kildress and Eglish get players from?

In Kildress there are two primary schools but both small.

Tyrone95

Quote from: Tyrone Gaa on November 08, 2021, 09:43:33 PM
Quote from: Tyrone95 on November 08, 2021, 04:55:40 PM
Just picked out the top 5 teams and their league games left.

Carrickmore   
- D' Laughan   
- Lmacrory
- Edendork
- Clonoe
- Errigal

Moy
- Errigal
- Donaghmore
- K'clogher
- Edendork

Dromore
- Donaghmore
- Galbally
- Omagh
- Dungannon

Loughmacrory
- Carrickmore
- Pomeroy
- Trillick
- Killyclogher

Clonoe
- C'island
- Omagh
- Carrickmore
- Eglish

All about championship of course but for teams not involved anymore the league offers something to play for and a reward for hard work all year. Should be an interesting run in.

Is it top team wins the league?

Looking at those fixtures, Carrickmore would be big favourites to land the league title provided the squad have that goal. I can't understand why teams undervalue the league. At the start of the year there are only 2 trophies to play for. Moy and Loughmacrory would take your arm off for a division 1 league title. Both would have been seen as relegation candidates at the beginning of the year.

I think it is just top team wins outright this year. With the last league game pencilled in for the week before Xmas they wouldn't have time for playoffs anyway. Hopefully they continue with outright winners going forward - defeats the purpose of being the most consistent/best team in the league if you cant get something at the end of it

Tyrone Gaa

Outright winners in the current fixture schedule is harsh on those clubs that are heavily impacted by losing their county men for 50% of the season (same for relegation). I haven't looked at how that effects the current top 5 clubs but that's the reasoning for playoffs. In an ideal world team at the top wins the league and the bottom 2 would be relegated if they get a full pick throughout the league.

Clonoe perhaps most disappointed where their county men opted out to concentrate on the club schedule and look destined to win nothing. That's 3 all Ireland medals out of the club.

Living the dream!!!

rrhf

Quote from: Tyrone95 on November 09, 2021, 08:08:37 AM
Quote from: Tyrone Gaa on November 08, 2021, 09:43:33 PM
Quote from: Tyrone95 on November 08, 2021, 04:55:40 PM
Just picked out the top 5 teams and their league games left.

Carrickmore   
- D' Laughan   
- Lmacrory
- Edendork
- Clonoe
- Errigal

Moy
- Errigal
- Donaghmore
- K'clogher
- Edendork

Dromore
- Donaghmore
- Galbally
- Omagh
- Dungannon

Loughmacrory
- Carrickmore
- Pomeroy
- Trillick
- Killyclogher

Clonoe
- C'island
- Omagh
- Carrickmore
- Eglish

All about championship of course but for teams not involved anymore the league offers something to play for and a reward for hard work all year. Should be an interesting run in.

Is it top team wins the league?

Looking at those fixtures, Carrickmore would be big favourites to land the league title provided the squad have that goal. I can't understand why teams undervalue the league. At the start of the year there are only 2 trophies to play for. Moy and Loughmacrory would take your arm off for a division 1 league title. Both would have been seen as relegation candidates at the beginning of the year.

I think it is just top team wins outright this year. With the last league game pencilled in for the week before Xmas they wouldn't have time for playoffs anyway. Hopefully they continue with outright winners going forward - defeats the purpose of being the most consistent/best team in the league if you cant get something at the end of it
Smart money on the Moy then.. Scoring highly throughout...

Under Lights

Quote from: Tyrone Gaa on November 09, 2021, 09:53:38 AM
Outright winners in the current fixture schedule is harsh on those clubs that are heavily impacted by losing their county men for 50% of the season (same for relegation). I haven't looked at how that effects the current top 5 clubs but that's the reasoning for playoffs. In an ideal world team at the top wins the league and the bottom 2 would be relegated if they get a full pick throughout the league.

Clonoe perhaps most disappointed where their county men opted out to concentrate on the club schedule and look destined to win nothing. That's 3 all Ireland medals out of the club.

At least Brian Kennedy took the first ever All Ireland Senior medal back to the parish

bigtogs

Quote from: Under Lights on November 09, 2021, 10:19:18 AM
Quote from: Tyrone Gaa on November 09, 2021, 09:53:38 AM
Outright winners in the current fixture schedule is harsh on those clubs that are heavily impacted by losing their county men for 50% of the season (same for relegation). I haven't looked at how that effects the current top 5 clubs but that's the reasoning for playoffs. In an ideal world team at the top wins the league and the bottom 2 would be relegated if they get a full pick throughout the league.

Clonoe perhaps most disappointed where their county men opted out to concentrate on the club schedule and look destined to win nothing. That's 3 all Ireland medals out of the club.

At least Brian Kennedy took the first ever All Ireland Senior medal back to the parish

Paudie Hampsey lives in Clonoe Parish

Under Lights

£15 into the intermediate final this Saturday £3 for under 16s

WeeDonns

Quote from: Under Lights on November 10, 2021, 04:37:57 PM
£15 into the intermediate final this Saturday £3 for under 16s
No mention on the Tyrone website of charges for U16s to Intermediate final but they are charging £3 in for U16s to the Senior final on Sunday.
That's just greedy IMO

GiveItToTheShooters

General admission £13 for intermediate and general admission £15 for senior. U16 ticket is only available for senior at £3.
Rip off. I'd say you'd get to a county game for cheaper

clarshack

Quote from: GiveItToTheShooters on November 10, 2021, 05:14:31 PM
General admission £13 for intermediate and general admission £15 for senior. U16 ticket is only available for senior at £3.
Rip off. I'd say you'd get to a county game for cheaper

£30 to watch both on the stream. No way they were going to have a double header lol.

What was it for the 2 Derry finals last weekend. £10?

You can even watch the Derry Senior final here now at no cost:
https://derrygaa.ie/watch-slaughtneil-v-glen-2021-sfc-final/

PeterEli

Not many lads currently playing club football in Tyrone with 3 O'Neill Cup medals.
Eoin McCusker with 3? What about Dromore's other elder statesmen some must have 2, Ronan McNabb, Niall Sludden, Conor O'Hara, Ciaran McCoy, Sean McNabb? Coalisland must have a few going for 3 as well, Maccers, Plunkett Kane, Niall Kerr, Paddy Buck, Brian Toner and maybe Jason Carberry? Dromore or Fianna posters can confirm.