Kerry v Monaghan part 2

[magickingdom]

hope galvin has a good game on sunday and the monaghan boys let him alone 

[Kerry Mike]

Was watching the Monaghan game last weekend and was wondering what the Red Arrow symbol over their county crest stood for, also did anyone notice the Monaghan players would not swap their jerseys with the Donegal players after the game, seems Banty is trying to instill some kind of siege mentality in the players about their pride in the jersey, nothing wrong with that, just wondering about the use of symbols, last year thay had things like "Pressure" written on their arms.

Paul Finlay last weekend.

[Maguire01]

Was watching the Monaghan game last weekend and was wondering what the Red Arrow symbol over their county crest stood for

I asked the same question on this board in the last week and got no answer.

[Main Street]

1930: Kerry 3-11 Monaghan 0-2 (All-Ireland final)

The men of 1930 have bided their time.

The story I heard while growing up was that there were only 2 Monaghan players left standing at end of that game - both Ballybay men.


It's all done and dusted according to the history books.
A 100% record for Kerry at this stage of the proceedings.
No wonder Kerry are at 2/9 to win over 70 minutes.
It's likely to be a very easy win for Kerry, 5 or 6 points at least.

Especially when Monaghan are well known as spoofers, spoilers, chokers, a one season half wonder with an appropriately named abusive sponsor .

[Kerry Mike]

Still some tough men about Ballybay !

Yerra am off to the game and will be surrounded by 7 of me outlaws from Monaghan, am a sucker for punishment.
Its spoiling the long weekend having the game this weekend , but them are the joys of it.

[Aaron Boone]

The poor Fermanagh guys in the crowd on Sunday don't even have a bank holiday this weekend.

Any Ballybay men to watch out for on Sunday? And what happened to the 13 who didn't make it to the end in 1930 ?
Cavan made up for it in 1933.

[Kerry Mike]

Paul Finlay's from Ballybay

And what happened to the 13 who didn't make it to the end in 1930

Devoured by some of the legends of Kerry football: Joe Barrett, Paul Russell, Tim O'Donnell, Con Brosnan, Bob Stack, Eamon Fitzgerald, John Joe Landers and John Joe Sheehy amoung others.
You'd nearly feel sorry for any team that had to come up against those calibre of players.

[Frank Casey]

Still some tough men about Ballybay !

Yerra am off to the game and will be surrounded by 7 of me outlaws from Monaghan, am a sucker for punishment.
Its spoiling the long weekend having the game this weekend , but them are the joys of it.

I suppose you're on rations at the minute?

[Kerry Mike]

Makin' me own tae as well.

[Frank Casey]

Makin' me own tae as well.

Is she even boiling the duck egg for you?

[Kerry Mike]

No I have to do that as well. It will be a long hungry week.

[Main Street]

KM, i think it's a foolish thing to chose to watch the game in the company of your Monaghan better half.

[Kerry Mike]

Monaghan are a team I have been watching closely over the last few years and have seen a good few clubs games to understand a small bit of the make up of the team.

Monaghan will probably have the same starting 15 this weekend, there will be the obligatory few players named out of position which is what Banty does in most games like Finlay in Midfield or Corey at Full back but once the teams line up on the field I'd expect to see a familiar look which will have Padraig McBennett in goals where he is developing into a very good shot stopper. His kickouts are good and has taken over as a Number 1 from Shane Duffy.

The Full back line will be the 2 Mone brothers and Dermot McArdle. Keeping Donegal's full forward line scoreless from play last weekend was no mean feat and even though Colm McFadden scored 3 frees and Mike Murphy got 5 it was still a fine result. If it showed one flaw it was the case of fouling and I think McArdle may be weak link here, though I do think he is a better option than Colm Flanagan from last year.

We know all about how well JP coped with Donaghy last year and it must be said not helped by the Kerry supply to their main target man, most of the ball sent in were Hail Mary's which made Mone's job a bit easier, but that was a result of Monaghan pressure from out the field on the Kerry playmakers. Monaghan did their job well. I'd hope for a better quality of ball on Sunday where Donaghy can attack the ball.

Dessie Mone did well on Gooch last year if memory serves me well , but with the poor supply to Donaghy and nearly everything going that route made Coopers involvement limited. Mone has pace to burn and is a good man marker but again inclined to foul. Is one of those niggly players who will get under the skin of a corner forward and Cooper will have to keep his head if this happens.

In the Half line Damien Freeman will again lead his team at wing back, a solid player who will sweep up alot of attacks, I can see him playing in front of his full back to try and clean up breaks. Gary McQuaid was poor enough against Donegal after his few weeks off, he seemed off the pace and it will be interesting to see if he is retained for Sunday and a potential clash with Eoin Brosnan or hopefully Declan O'Sullivan if fit.

I think it was Conor McManus played wing back the last day and he seemed to struggle with Brian Roper at times, Dessie Hughes is a possible option against Kerry. But maybe the Monaghan lads can correct me as to who is their best choice No 7.

At midfield it will take some convincing that it wont be Dick Clerkin and Eoin Lennon, Clerkin may wear 10 but midfield will be his role. Both put in great shows over the last 2 games and work tirelessly for the team, Both win primary ball and can distribute and score too. They gave Kerry their fill of it last year and Clerkin will want to avenge his late red card.

Lennon has really come on and for a man in need of a knee operation he has done well, his early season form for both Latton and Monaghan was poor but he seems to rise to the occasion. Kerry midfield will have a busy afternoon.

The half forward line will probably be made up of Finlay, Woods and Gollogly though again jersey numbers may mean nothing. Finlay has returned well from his suspension and continued his good form of early this year, one thing I notice is he is kicking frees from his hands instead of off the ground last year, he missed a few costly 45's against Tyrone and Kerry last year off the ground. A fine player and will take alot of man marking next weekend. Rory Woods get through a pile of ball and he will float around midfield and the whole forward line, very good ball winner and is a very good distributor and his point taking has really come on, a real chip of Nudie's block. If he plays in the centre I'd expect Aidan O'Mahony to be close by. Stephen Gollogly though small in stature is hardy and again well able to kick a point and win the scrappy ball. In fact it is something I have noticed more this year, all the Monaghan forwards are willing to chip in, whereas before it was being left to Freeman and Finlay for the scoring.

The full forwards line will be led by Tommy Freeman who though having a quiter year than last year is still a major threat, he seems to be more man marked this year and is working harder for the team by creating space for the likes of Woods and Hantratty to have a shot. Hanratty is a great wee player, light but quick and will score if given the chance, gave Padraig Reidy the run around last year and will need special attention this time around. Vincent Corey though probaby being named as a No 3 or at 6 will be at Full forward where he will expect to cause havoc on Tom O'Sullivan again. Corey is a good target man and well able to help out in winning breaking ball around the middle, has power and pace to threaten any defence but sometimes feel his scoring threat is not so great.

Sin e that my view on Monaghan, some of it very predictable but nonetheless we will give Monaghan the fullest respect , they will be a very hard team to break down and score against.

Will write a bit about Kerry tomorrow when hopefully we will have news on a certain Mr Other.

[Maguire01]

Good assessment KM - you have a better knowledge of the opposiion than most! One correction - it's Darren Hughes and not Dessie Hughes as a potential half-back sub.

[GrandMasterFlash]

but nonetheless we will give Monaghan the fullest respect , they will be a very hard team to break down and score against.

  You'd better give Monaghan the fullest respect or you'll not even be able to make your own tay KM when her indoors is done with ya.. 

  On the number 7 front. Our current best option would be Paul McGuigan from Clontibret. He was off the pace a bit again(st) Derry (seem to be carrying a bit of a leg injury) but done well when we came on again(st) Donegal. He's a very clever player and is a great attacking option to have in the HB line.