Man Utd Thread:

[Norf Tyrone]

was on sky sports news there had bayern had 61% possession. utd can have no complaints.

did you not watch the game?

united had 60% until the sending off & bayern first shot on goal was after 40mins there 2nd shot was a goal

Not sure your point?

[Capt Pat]

"United are finished" according to Dunphy or Giles, the end of an era. Giggs and Schole and Neville are over the hill, Rio is past his best, they never replaced Ronaldo or Tevez.

[ross4life]

was on sky sports news there had bayern had 61% possession. utd can have no complaints.

did you not watch the game?

united had 60% until the sending off & bayern first shot on goal was after 40mins there 2nd shot was a goal

Not sure your point?

my point is as clear as day......... united change tactics took off Rooney & tried hang onto the goal lead which allowed Bayern more possession of the ball

apart from the Robben goal i can't remember bayern creating too many chances but i guess that a trend of late v united

[Rufus T Firefly]

After Robben's goal, Bayern owned the ball. They played a possession game that was way beyond Manchester Red's capabilities. There was to be no get out of jail card tonight!   

[ross4life]

"United are finished" according to Dunphy or Giles, the end of an era. Giggs and Schole and Neville are over the hill, Rio is past his best, they never replaced Ronaldo or Tevez.

yep i mentioned that already!

they also said the same thing when united lost to Porto in 2004 & then went onto one of there most successfull periods in the history of the club 

united are still one of Europe's best teams no matter what those clowns say, i just saw a interview with the Lyon coach his reaction to discovering united were out was priceless, knowing they have a great chance of making the final now you can't help him

[DuffleKing]

After Robben's goal, Bayern owned the ball. They played a possession game that was way beyond Manchester Red's capabilities. There was to be no get out of jail card tonight!   

You're aware that having a man sent off means that the team must then play the remainder of the game with only 10 players?

[ross4life]

one final point for tonight i thought nani played his best game in a united shirt unlucky not to get a hat trick, he worked his socks off & even defended quiet Well & he worked so hard he almost fainted at the corner flag in 2nd half

Well done Nani It was like Ronaldo never left. Sensational may your good form continue

[Stagmeister]

one final point for tonight i thought nani played his best game in a united shirt unlucky not to get a hat trick, he worked his socks off & even defended quiet Well & he worked so hard he almost fainted at the corner flag in 2nd half

Well done Nani It was like Ronaldo never left. Sensational may your good form continue

Nani had a great game but that moment when he was pretending he was going to faint at the corner flag was embarrassing, what a tool...

Robben is also as annoying as ever, at one stage when he was running down the right wing in the second half and Evra was hustling him, not even close to fouling him, he just stopped, turned around and cried to the ref..very irritating. I thought he was pretty poor tonight apart from that wonderful volley. Wasnt that impressed with Ribery either apart from a couple of moments, notably one great volley attempt in which he displayed unbelievable technique

I didnt see the first leg but Bayern looked like a poor team to me tonight, United are definitely a better side but only have themselves to blame for gifting Bayern the winner in the first leg, conceding another soft goal tonight just before half time and then Rafael getting himself a ridiculous second yellow.

[tyroneman]

Let's not forget that Ribery, Robben and S'stieger were all well below 100% fitness. Especially Ribery. Utd simply paid the price for fielding a team with too many average players. Gibson, Carrick, Fletcher are nowhere near the influence Keane was. Nani has 1 good game in 5. Berbatov is actually a decent player but as anyone who watched him pre-spurs could see is hugely tempremental and needs to feel he is no1. Clearly he ain't at utd.

The sending off was just that. No complaints. Fergie hates it when he has to deal with foreign refs who don't sh@te theselves at his maroon visage guldering and pointing at a watch. Notice how his premiership sideline carnival didn't manifest itself last night.

Simple fact is that utd took Bayern way too lightly until they realised they were in trouble ans then didn't have the players to dig them out. I'd say Real are gutted now that side of the draw is so open.

Fergie will rebrand that team. It's not the end as dunphy and co suggest. You must question his judgement however as many of his signings over the past 5 years are just not up to scratch. Luck for him he manages to get 1 gem - a Rooney or ronaldo. To see him through.   

[Declan]

Spot on about what? They ripped both teams to shite. Two teams easily in the top 5 or 6 in Europe, yet they and their best players were repeatedly derided as 'not up to it at this level'. I'd love to know where all the teams and players that are up to this level are hiding. If you paid any heed to those eejits you'd be left thinking there's one decent team in the world, Barcelona, and a pile of shit pub teams. On top of that, Barcelona only have 2 or 3 decent players, with the likes of Pique, Abidal, Pedro, Busquets, etc, also apparently 'not up to it at this level'.

With the amount of shite they pump, it's impossible for any accurately drawn conclusions to be anything other than incidental

I think their analysis of the actual game was correct - United aren't good enough compared to the standard needed to win the Champions League and have too many "average" players e.g. Carrick, Gibson, Fletcher in the midfield aren't up to the top level needed. They are right when they say Fergie doesn't trust Berba, that Nani is too inconsistent, that Rio is past is best, that Evra has been poor recently. Also Giles dismissed the comparison of Bayern to Barca and he's right, but remember he also said that Barca aren't a great team yet because of their defensive weaknesses so that that's the standards he's judging them by.

They were all fulsome in their praise for Fergie and his achievements and said as well as being one of the all time greats he has made mistakes - "like all great managers do". They questioned his decision over Tevez/Berba and said that in the current climate without finance it's impossible to build a new team. Whether or not you believe it's the end of an era is up to you but with their great players like Scholes, Giggs, etc coming to the end and no natural replacements and if they are depending on the players above I can see how they can come to that conclusion. It'll be interesting to see what happens during the summer.

Behind Dunphy's obvious bluster he can make some valid points and Giles actual analysis of what happens during the games is the best by a country mile. You mightn't like it but when he says United never "controlled" the game despite being 3 nil up he was correct. They also said that the goal at the end of the first half was crucial and that if it wasn't scored Utd could probably have hung on despite the sending off.   

If Rooney is out again it's hard to see them winning the Premier league 

[Minder]

one final point for tonight i thought nani played his best game in a united shirt unlucky not to get a hat trick, he worked his socks off & even defended quiet Well & he worked so hard he almost fainted at the corner flag in 2nd half

Well done Nani It was like Ronaldo never left. Sensational may your good form continue

[nrico2006]

Dunphy "United are finished. The fat lady has sung. Only one team in Manchester and they wear blue"

Dunphy is some tool alright.  Constantly comes out with crap and yet he still actually has a role on RTE to spout more crap.  For years he went on about how Ronaldo was a terrible footballer, and because of his stance he could never admit that he was actually a great player.  This year he started by saying United would not win a trophy for years, yet they won one a few months later and were in the hunt for the 2 big ones until yesterday.  He has a real fascination with Man City since their Sheikh came in, and he never refrains from praising them when in reality the Man City team comprises of a bunch of mercenaries. 

I have no real argument with the sending-off, I just think that in that situation the ref could have gave him a warning as it was not the worst challenge ever seen or was not denying Ribery a serious chance.  There were a few other incidents where Bayern players were more fortunate with regards to the ref's actions, namely the incident with Van Bommel (already on a yellow) when he blatantly pushed his elbow into Fletchers back knocking him to the ground when he was already on a yellow card. 

I think their analysis of the actual game was correct - United aren't good enough compared to the standard needed to win the Champions League and have too many "average" players e.g. Carrick, Gibson, Fletcher in the midfield aren't up to the top level needed. They are right when they say Fergie doesn't trust Berba, that Nani is too inconsistent, that Rio is past is best, that Evra has been poor recently. Also Giles dismissed the comparison of Bayern to Barca and he's right, but remember he also said that Barca aren't a great team yet because of their defensive weaknesses so that that's the standards he's judging them by.

What a load of dung.  How are United not up to the level needed?  They were the better team last night until the sending off, and what level is needed?  Two finals in a row would suggest that United are at the required level.  As for too many average players, Fletcher is not an average player.  He is a top central midfielder who has been key to United success over the past few years; it's just a case that he goes about his business in a quiet fashion.  As for Gibson, he is basically a rookie and its too early to determine what kind of career he is going to have, but so far the signs seem good with him.  Good physical player with a lethal strike of the ball, scoring quite a few times in his short professional career for United from midfield.

As for Fergies comments at the end of the match, since when has calling a team 'Typical Germans' been an offence worthy of the reaction on here? 

[Rocky Mc Guigan]

Michael Carrick- you are the weakest link- goodbye.  The left footed Brazilian twin got all the brains in that house. Why do teams not put a man on the post for corners? It's not rocket science.

[TacadoirArdMhacha]

I think their analysis of the actual game was correct - United aren't good enough compared to the standard needed to win the Champions League and have too many "average" players e.g. Carrick, Gibson, Fletcher in the midfield aren't up to the top level needed. They are right when they say Fergie doesn't trust Berba, that Nani is too inconsistent, that Rio is past is best, that Evra has been poor recently. Also Giles dismissed the comparison of Bayern to Barca and he's right, but remember he also said that Barca aren't a great team yet because of their defensive weaknesses so that that's the standards he's judging them by.

They were all fulsome in their praise for Fergie and his achievements and said as well as being one of the all time greats he has made mistakes - "like all great managers do". They questioned his decision over Tevez/Berba and said that in the current climate without finance it's impossible to build a new team. Whether or not you believe it's the end of an era is up to you but with their great players like Scholes, Giggs, etc coming to the end and no natural replacements and if they are depending on the players above I can see how they can come to that conclusion. It'll be interesting to see what happens during the summer.

Behind Dunphy's obvious bluster he can make some valid points and Giles actual analysis of what happens during the games is the best by a country mile. You mightn't like it but when he says United never "controlled" the game despite being 3 nil up he was correct. They also said that the goal at the end of the first half was crucial and that if it wasn't scored Utd could probably have hung on despite the sending off.   

If Rooney is out again it's hard to see them winning the Premier league

Dunphy didn't say Nani was inconsistent. Dunphy said he was rubbish despite scoring 2 goals and being the most dangerous forward player on the pitch in a Champions League q/final. That says it all about Dunphy's level of analysis.

[Boycey]

Its truly touching to watch the joy people get when United lose an important game. 7-8 pages of unbridled joy and thats before the day shift even start. Its always nice to know we mean so much to people

United were a bit unlucky last night but were poor last week so wouldn't have that many complaints overall. I think Vidic and probably Berbatov will move on during the summer, I've always been a huge admirer of Berba but it hasn't really worked for him at United especially since Rooney moved right up top and he's too good a player not to be playing regular football. The sale of those 2 would recoup 35-40 mill and that would be the acid test of how financially strapped United are whether or not that money makes its way into transfer kitty.

It actually wouldn't surprise me if Ferguson stepped down too as the squad is aging and several players will need replacing in the short/medium term and I assuming hes not gonna be there to oversee the whole process maybe he'll feel it better to let the next man have a free run at it.

It'll be like armageddon on here if Maureen gets the job cause he'll get peoples back up more than Ferguson

Keep the green and gold flag flying high.................