Sam Maguire permutations

[blanketattack]

So if Derry beat Cork, and as one of Armagh/Monaghan go through, is that pairing possible in a sf since we've played Armagh in an Ulster Final and Monaghan in the groups?

If not, the one Semi permutation will possibly be Derry v (Kerry/Tyrone or Dublin/Mayo).


Is that right? That's a tough route for Derry if so, but then all routes are tough at this stage.

No repeat pairings in the semi final either!

Semi finals are an open draw surely?

Semi-final draw is even more restrictive than the 1/4 finals.
Semi-final doesn't allow a repeat of any previous Championship meetings, while 1/4s avoided provincial finals and round 1.
Therefore:
Kerry: can't play Mayo/Cork
Tyrone: can't play Arm/Mon
Armagh: can't play Tyr/Derry
Monaghan: can't play Tyr/Derry
Derry: can't play Arm/Mon
Cork: can't play Mayo/Kerry
Mayo: can't play Cork/Kerry

[yellowcard]

It looks nailed on for Armagh v Monaghan followed by Kerry v Tyrone on the Saturday.

With Derry v Cork followed by Dublin v Mayo on the Sunday.

[Armamike]

If we lose we lose. Just no extra time and penalties please!

You know that extra time and penalties are a certainty in that game...lol

Got all the hallmarks of a slogfest unfortunately.  Hopefully not.

[Armamike]

It looks nailed on for Armagh v Monaghan followed by Kerry v Tyrone on the Saturday.
With Derry v Cork followed by Dublin v Mayo on the Sunday.

Bit of a queue at the toll!

[seafoid]

So if Derry beat Cork, and as one of Armagh/Monaghan go through, is that pairing possible in a sf since we've played Armagh in an Ulster Final and Monaghan in the groups?

If not, the one Semi permutation will possibly be Derry v (Kerry/Tyrone or Dublin/Mayo).


Is that right? That's a tough route for Derry if so, but then all routes are tough at this stage.

No repeat pairings in the semi final either!

Semi finals are an open draw surely?

Semi-final draw is even more restrictive than the 1/4 finals.
Semi-final doesn't allow a repeat of any previous Championship meetings, while 1/4s avoided provincial finals and round 1.
Therefore:
Kerry: can't play Mayo/Cork
Tyrone: can't play Arm/Mon
Armagh: can't play Tyr/Derry
Monaghan: can't play Tyr/Derry
Derry: can't play Arm/Mon
Cork: can't play Mayo/Kerry
Mayo: can't play Cork/Kerry

If the 3 teams from Group 1 make it to the semis the GAA will have to override the rules.

[blanketattack]

If Derry and Tyrone win their 1/4 finals there'll be no semi-final draw as the only way to avoid previous fixtures in the semis will be:

Derry v Tyrone
Mayo/Dublin v Armagh/Monaghan

[Rossfan]

So if Derry beat Cork, and as one of Armagh/Monaghan go through, is that pairing possible in a sf since we've played Armagh in an Ulster Final and Monaghan in the groups?

If not, the one Semi permutation will possibly be Derry v (Kerry/Tyrone or Dublin/Mayo).


Is that right? That's a tough route for Derry if so, but then all routes are tough at this stage.

No repeat pairings in the semi final either!

Semi finals are an open draw surely?

Semi-final draw is even more restrictive than the 1/4 finals.
Semi-final doesn't allow a repeat of any previous Championship meetings, while 1/4s avoided provincial finals and round 1.
Therefore:
Kerry: can't play Mayo/Cork
Tyrone: can't play Arm/Mon
Armagh: can't play Tyr/Derry
Monaghan: can't play Tyr/Derry
Derry: can't play Arm/Mon
Cork: can't play Mayo/Kerry
Mayo: can't play Cork/Kerry

If the 3 teams from Group 1 make it to the semis the GAA will have to override the rules.

Rule says "where possible"

[urbangael]

It looks nailed on for Armagh v Monaghan followed by Kerry v Tyrone on the Saturday.

With Derry v Cork followed by Dublin v Mayo on the Sunday.


Id be shocked if that's not the way of it.  Ulster fans will be on the road early! 

[BrotherMore6592]

Would there be a chance of getting an exception for the Armagh game to be a standalone fixture in HQ?

I'm seriously worried that PSNI / Garda will have to setup escorts to ensure the game starts on time. The scale of traffic we're talking about here is gargantuan

[DoireGael]

Would there be a chance of getting an exception for the Armagh game to be a standalone fixture in HQ?

I'm seriously worried that PSNI / Garda will have to setup escorts to ensure the game starts on time. The scale of traffic we're talking about here is gargantuan

I've never seen anything like the tail back coming down the road for the Armagh Galway match on the Motorway (Was coming back from the Derry Clare match the next day). Bus upon bus load from Armagh stuck at the Toll for miles.

Mighty support and mighty supporters.

[LeoMc]

It looks nailed on for Armagh v Monaghan followed by Kerry v Tyrone on the Saturday.
With Derry v Cork followed by Dublin v Mayo on the Sunday.

Bit of a queue at the toll!

I originally thought Cork v Derry followed by Kerry v Tyrone but the other 4 teams would carry too much support to be on the same day.

[ahyewillyewillyewill]

Derry4Sam sur!

[armaghniac]

Would there be a chance of getting an exception for the Armagh game to be a standalone fixture in HQ?

I'm seriously worried that PSNI / Garda will have to setup escorts to ensure the game starts on time. The scale of traffic we're talking about here is gargantuan

Tyrone and Armagh played in an All Ireland semi-final and final in Croke park and people got there. If the games are on Saturday then they will have late starts and earlier travel is advised.

[naka]

Would there be a chance of getting an exception for the Armagh game to be a standalone fixture in HQ?

I'm seriously worried that PSNI / Garda will have to setup escorts to ensure the game starts on time. The scale of traffic we're talking about here is gargantuan

armagh had a bigger support in the early noughties
so its not an issue
my prefernece is a sunday with the dublin game
croke would be packed to the rafters

[Armamike]

Would there be a chance of getting an exception for the Armagh game to be a standalone fixture in HQ?

I'm seriously worried that PSNI / Garda will have to setup escorts to ensure the game starts on time. The scale of traffic we're talking about here is gargantuan

Stop it, you're too funny.