Armagh v Tipperary 15/7/17??

Started by tonto1888, July 10, 2017, 08:50:33 AM

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smelmoth

Quote from: tonto1888 on July 15, 2017, 07:05:56 PM
Delighted with that win. Played some good football and done what was needed to get over the line

Our football was ok. Not better. But it was the only football played. Especially in the second half

smelmoth

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Best team won
Not sure why Tipp crowd are annoyed
One point from play in second half

In the last 10 minutes when Tipp ran at armagh there was only 3 things happened, and none in Tipp's favour:

1. Cynical direct fouls were met with yellow instead of black.
2. Cynical off the ball fouls were ignored.
3. When no foul was made, the ref invented one in case an overlap formed.

Fair play to armagh for creating the lead. But the referee is the reason they protected it.

Who should have got a black card?
Co-commentator actually said there was a pull on the jersey and couldn't understand why it wasn't a black card. Is it that hard to read a couple of lines?
Pulling a jersey isn't a black card offence.

It's been a few years now since the black card have been introduced! a pull down is a black card! pulling the jersey is not! whether its cynical play are not does not matter! only decisions the ref got wrong were regarding the advantage rule! and that was for both teams! best team won!

Not really surprising that as soon as McKeever pulled the jersey the crap commentating team immediately shouted black card.

So just to clear something up here.

Are you telling us that a pull down involving a shirt pull is not a not a black card? Or is it only such case when Armagh are involved?

McKeever should have walked. It is exactly the sort of tackle that the black card was introduced to remove from the game.

Wrong

smelmoth

Quote from: Oraisteach on July 15, 2017, 07:17:00 PM
Apart from a few dismal advantage calls, I thought the ref did OK.  Glad to see Armagh with a free-taker who doesn't give me palpitations. And pleased too that after a brief lapse following the Quinlivan goal, Armagh regained its composure.

100%

smelmoth

Quote from: Rufus T Firefly on July 15, 2017, 07:26:23 PM
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Quote from: Buttofthehill on July 15, 2017, 04:44:13 PM
I'm sure it's been mentioned elsewhere but Canavan's analysis are top notch.

Except when he chooses to chase a personal agenda and mentions McGeeney telling him that he couldn't tackle and then highlighting Armagh's poor tackling.

"Kieran McGeeney once said I couldn't tackle, well he needs to teach his team how to tackle".

Good grief! How long was he holding that one?

Hardly a big issue.

Winning our own kick out and changing our attacking plan in the second half would be more concerning

Big enough for me to feel the need to reply, thanks. You don't like it, put me on ignore.

Big enough for you

Run of the mill comment. No more

smelmoth

Quote from: nrico2006 on July 15, 2017, 08:08:20 PM
Usual incompetent GAA, put a rule out with loads of loopholes and still haven't amended it since it's introduction. A pull should be a black card but currently by the letter of the law it's not a black card offence.
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The powers that be want the change. But that power ain't sufficient. Direct your ire at the blockers

smelmoth

Quote from: Zulu on July 15, 2017, 08:09:41 PM
Quote from: nrico2006 on July 15, 2017, 08:08:20 PM
Usual incompetent GAA, put a rule out with loads of loopholes and still haven't amended it since it's introduction. A pull should be a black card but currently by the letter of the law it's not a black card offence.

No it shouldn't, a black card for a pull would mean nobody ever playing a full 70 minutes.

Or discipline and an improved game

Zulu

So you want a guy sent off for a tug of the jersey? There's too much physicality taken out of the game already, lads getting sent off of a jersey pull would make the bloody thing entirely non-contact.

tonto1888

Quote from: smelmoth on July 15, 2017, 11:05:05 PM
Quote from: tonto1888 on July 15, 2017, 07:05:56 PM
Delighted with that win. Played some good football and done what was needed to get over the line

Our football was ok. Not better. But it was the only football played. Especially in the second half

Don't understand this. Are you saying we didn't play any good football?

Orior

Quote from: Blowitupref on July 15, 2017, 05:41:55 PM
Tipperary 0-10 Armagh 0-8 at half time a decent game of football with some top scores, a deserved lead for Tipperary however can their supporters not come up with a better chant than Tipp,Tipp,Tipp...?

I first heard that chant in Croke Park about 10 years ago. It's great!
Cover me in chocolate and feed me to the lesbians

smelmoth

Quote from: Zulu on July 15, 2017, 11:18:23 PM
So you want a guy sent off for a tug of the jersey? There's too much physicality taken out of the game already, lads getting sent off of a jersey pull would make the bloody thing entirely non-contact.

What Ciaran did was not a run of the mill jersey pull

smelmoth

Quote from: hardstation on July 15, 2017, 11:21:48 PM
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Quote from: Zulu on July 15, 2017, 08:09:41 PM
Quote from: nrico2006 on July 15, 2017, 08:08:20 PM
Usual incompetent GAA, put a rule out with loads of loopholes and still haven't amended it since it's introduction. A pull should be a black card but currently by the letter of the law it's not a black card offence.

No it shouldn't, a black card for a pull would mean nobody ever playing a full 70 minutes.

Or discipline and an improved game
Ballix. Every foul isn't a sending off.

Nobody said it was

Rossfan

Quote from: Zulu on July 15, 2017, 11:18:23 PM
So you want a guy sent off for a tug of the jersey? There's too much physicality taken out of the game already, lads getting sent off of a jersey pull would make the bloody thing entirely non-contact.
Jersey pulls are fouls Zulu and therefore illegal contact.
Davy's given us a dream to cling to
We're going to bring home the SAM

smelmoth

Quote from: tonto1888 on July 15, 2017, 11:23:46 PM
Quote from: smelmoth on July 15, 2017, 11:05:05 PM
Quote from: tonto1888 on July 15, 2017, 07:05:56 PM
Delighted with that win. Played some good football and done what was needed to get over the line

Our football was ok. Not better. But it was the only football played. Especially in the second half

Don't understand this. Are you saying we didn't play any good football?

We certainly exploited the frailties in Tipperary's fitness and tactical shitness. What was displayed today won't win the next round.

This team can play better. They will need to and they can

Zulu

Quote from: smelmoth on July 15, 2017, 11:26:32 PM
Quote from: Zulu on July 15, 2017, 11:18:23 PM
So you want a guy sent off for a tug of the jersey? There's too much physicality taken out of the game already, lads getting sent off of a jersey pull would make the bloody thing entirely non-contact.

What Ciaran did was not a run of the mill jersey pull

But you said a jersey pull should be a black card, are you saying only some should?

smelmoth

Quote from: hardstation on July 15, 2017, 11:32:26 PM
Quote from: smelmoth on July 15, 2017, 11:26:32 PM
Quote from: Zulu on July 15, 2017, 11:18:23 PM
So you want a guy sent off for a tug of the jersey? There's too much physicality taken out of the game already, lads getting sent off of a jersey pull would make the bloody thing entirely non-contact.

What Ciaran did was not a run of the mill jersey pull
Are you expecting it to be left to referee interpretation, what is a bad jersey tug and what is run of the mill? Good luck.

If a team needs a goal. Their player is moving in on goal inside the 20. A defender grabs the back of the jersey nowhere near the ball. Pure cynicism? Absolutely.

Look at the trip on Sheridan. Not a black card because there was no intent. Ref can be left to adjudicate on these things