Armagh v Tipperary 15/7/17??

Started by tonto1888, July 10, 2017, 08:50:33 AM

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Owen Brannigan

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Yet another poor performance from the Roscommon referee and you can be sure he will be back for more championship games.

Doesn't have the capacity to deal with a multi incident game, trying to balance one bad decision with another.

manfromdelmonte

Quote from: Owen Brannigan on July 15, 2017, 07:08:47 PM
Yet another poor performance from the Roscommon referee and you can be sure he will be back for more championship games.
fussy, then lets an awful lot of stuff go - like steps

Esmarelda

Quote from: BluestackBoy on July 15, 2017, 06:57:26 PM
Quote from: Esmarelda on July 15, 2017, 06:55:49 PM
Quote from: smelmoth on July 15, 2017, 06:51:17 PM
Quote from: thewobbler on July 15, 2017, 06:49:53 PM
Quote from: joemamas on July 15, 2017, 06:45:06 PM
Best team won
Not sure why Tipp crowd are annoyed
One point from play in second half

In the last 10 minutes when Tipp ran at armagh there was only 3 things happened, and none in Tipp's favour:

1. Cynical direct fouls were met with yellow instead of black.
2. Cynical off the ball fouls were ignored.
3. When no foul was made, the ref invented one in case an overlap formed.

Fair play to armagh for creating the lead. But the referee is the reason they protected it.

Who should have got a black card?
Co-commentator actually said there was a pull on the jersey and couldn't understand why it wasn't a black card. Is it that hard to read a couple of lines?
Pulling a jersey isn't a black card offence.
I know. That's my point.

dublin7

Quote from: Owen Brannigan on July 15, 2017, 07:08:47 PM
Yet another poor performance from the Roscommon referee and you can be sure he will be back for more championship games.

Doesn't have the capacity to deal with a multi incident game, trying to balance one bad decision with another.

Clearly has no idea how the advantage rule works or what a black card is. Got so many easy decisions wrong it was a joke

Oraisteach

Apart from a few dismal advantage calls, I thought the ref did OK.  Glad to see Armagh with a free-taker who doesn't give me palpitations. And pleased too that after a brief lapse following the Quinlivan goal, Armagh regained its composure. 

manfromdelmonte

good to see another McGeeney team who clearly don't know how to tackle

thewobbler

Quote from: Owen Brannigan on July 15, 2017, 07:07:41 PM
Quote from: JP on July 15, 2017, 07:02:59 PM
Quote from: BluestackBoy on July 15, 2017, 06:57:26 PM
Quote from: Esmarelda on July 15, 2017, 06:55:49 PM
Quote from: smelmoth on July 15, 2017, 06:51:17 PM
Quote from: thewobbler on July 15, 2017, 06:49:53 PM
Quote from: joemamas on July 15, 2017, 06:45:06 PM
Best team won
Not sure why Tipp crowd are annoyed
One point from play in second half

In the last 10 minutes when Tipp ran at armagh there was only 3 things happened, and none in Tipp's favour:

1. Cynical direct fouls were met with yellow instead of black.
2. Cynical off the ball fouls were ignored.
3. When no foul was made, the ref invented one in case an overlap formed.

Fair play to armagh for creating the lead. But the referee is the reason they protected it.

Who should have got a black card?
Co-commentator actually said there was a pull on the jersey and couldn't understand why it wasn't a black card. Is it that hard to read a couple of lines?
Pulling a jersey isn't a black card offence.

It's been a few years now since the black card have been introduced! a pull down is a black card! pulling the jersey is not! whether its cynical play are not does not matter! only decisions the ref got wrong were regarding the advantage rule! and that was for both teams! best team won!

Not really surprising that as soon as McKeever pulled the jersey the crap commentating team immediately shouted black card.

So just to clear something up here.

Are you telling us that a pull down involving a shirt pull is not a not a black card? Or is it only such case when Armagh are involved?

McKeever should have walked. It is exactly the sort of tackle that the black card was introduced to remove from the game.

Cunny Funt

Paddy Neilan from what i seen of him is a inconsistent ref, for example good in the Div one final this April while bad in todays game but at least the best team won that game today. Other refs are bad in every game yet keep getting high profile games.

Rufus T Firefly

Quote from: smelmoth on July 15, 2017, 05:56:54 PM
Quote from: Rufus T Firefly on July 15, 2017, 05:48:36 PM
Quote from: Buttofthehill on July 15, 2017, 04:44:13 PM
I'm sure it's been mentioned elsewhere but Canavan's analysis are top notch.

Except when he chooses to chase a personal agenda and mentions McGeeney telling him that he couldn't tackle and then highlighting Armagh's poor tackling.

"Kieran McGeeney once said I couldn't tackle, well he needs to teach his team how to tackle".

Good grief! How long was he holding that one?

Hardly a big issue.

Winning our own kick out and changing our attacking plan in the second half would be more concerning

Big enough for me to feel the need to reply, thanks. You don't like it, put me on ignore.

JP

Quote from: thewobbler on July 15, 2017, 07:18:14 PM
Quote from: Owen Brannigan on July 15, 2017, 07:07:41 PM
Quote from: JP on July 15, 2017, 07:02:59 PM
Quote from: BluestackBoy on July 15, 2017, 06:57:26 PM
Quote from: Esmarelda on July 15, 2017, 06:55:49 PM
Quote from: smelmoth on July 15, 2017, 06:51:17 PM
Quote from: thewobbler on July 15, 2017, 06:49:53 PM
Quote from: joemamas on July 15, 2017, 06:45:06 PM
Best team won
Not sure why Tipp crowd are annoyed
One point from play in second half

In the last 10 minutes when Tipp ran at armagh there was only 3 things happened, and none in Tipp's favour:

1. Cynical direct fouls were met with yellow instead of black.
2. Cynical off the ball fouls were ignored.
3. When no foul was made, the ref invented one in case an overlap formed.

Fair play to armagh for creating the lead. But the referee is the reason they protected it.

Who should have got a black card?
Co-commentator actually said there was a pull on the jersey and couldn't understand why it wasn't a black card. Is it that hard to read a couple of lines?
Pulling a jersey isn't a black card offence.

It's been a few years now since the black card have been introduced! a pull down is a black card! pulling the jersey is not! whether its cynical play are not does not matter! only decisions the ref got wrong were regarding the advantage rule! and that was for both teams! best team won!

Not really surprising that as soon as McKeever pulled the jersey the crap commentating team immediately shouted black card.

So just to clear something up here.

Are you telling us that a pull down involving a shirt pull is not a not a black card? Or is it only such case when Armagh are involved?

McKeever should have walked. It is exactly the sort of tackle that the black card was introduced to remove from the game.
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I'm saying you don't know the rules! pulling the shirt has never been a black card! there are 5 fouls were a black card is issued! The mckeever incident didn't fall under any of them! it was a yellow card and the ref made the correct decision

Zulu

Quote from: thewobbler on July 15, 2017, 07:18:14 PM
Quote from: Owen Brannigan on July 15, 2017, 07:07:41 PM
Quote from: JP on July 15, 2017, 07:02:59 PM
Quote from: BluestackBoy on July 15, 2017, 06:57:26 PM
Quote from: Esmarelda on July 15, 2017, 06:55:49 PM
Quote from: smelmoth on July 15, 2017, 06:51:17 PM
Quote from: thewobbler on July 15, 2017, 06:49:53 PM
Quote from: joemamas on July 15, 2017, 06:45:06 PM
Best team won
Not sure why Tipp crowd are annoyed
One point from play in second half

In the last 10 minutes when Tipp ran at armagh there was only 3 things happened, and none in Tipp's favour:

1. Cynical direct fouls were met with yellow instead of black.
2. Cynical off the ball fouls were ignored.
3. When no foul was made, the ref invented one in case an overlap formed.

Fair play to armagh for creating the lead. But the referee is the reason they protected it.

Who should have got a black card?
Co-commentator actually said there was a pull on the jersey and couldn't understand why it wasn't a black card. Is it that hard to read a couple of lines?
Pulling a jersey isn't a black card offence.

It's been a few years now since the black card have been introduced! a pull down is a black card! pulling the jersey is not! whether its cynical play are not does not matter! only decisions the ref got wrong were regarding the advantage rule! and that was for both teams! best team won!

Not really surprising that as soon as McKeever pulled the jersey the crap commentating team immediately shouted black card.

So just to clear something up here.

Are you telling us that a pull down involving a shirt pull is not a not a black card? Or is it only such case when Armagh are involved?

McKeever should have walked. It is exactly the sort of tackle that the black card was introduced to remove from the game.

The ref got a good bit wrong today but that wasn't one of them. He pulled the jersey and the Tipp player went to ground. To be a black he would have to have pulled him to the ground and he didn't so a yellow was correct.

nrico2006

Usual incompetent GAA, put a rule out with loads of loopholes and still haven't amended it since it's introduction. A pull should be a black card but currently by the letter of the law it's not a black card offence.
'To the extreme I rock a mic like a vandal, light up a stage and wax a chump like a candle.'

Zulu

Quote from: nrico2006 on July 15, 2017, 08:08:20 PM
Usual incompetent GAA, put a rule out with loads of loopholes and still haven't amended it since it's introduction. A pull should be a black card but currently by the letter of the law it's not a black card offence.

No it shouldn't, a black card for a pull would mean nobody ever playing a full 70 minutes.

T Fearon

Is Liam Kearns the first Munster manager to lose two Championship games to Armagh

Esmarelda

Quote from: Zulu on July 15, 2017, 08:09:41 PM
Quote from: nrico2006 on July 15, 2017, 08:08:20 PM
Usual incompetent GAA, put a rule out with loads of loopholes and still haven't amended it since it's introduction. A pull should be a black card but currently by the letter of the law it's not a black card offence.

No it shouldn't, a black card for a pull would mean nobody ever playing a full 70 minutes.
We're still talking about the bloody black card rules. They didn't put the jersey pull in because they feared they wouldn't get it through congress.