Derry Club Football & Hurling original

[Brendan]

Clubs do pay the fees for refs

[Newbridge Exile]

Went to Newbridge Kilrea game there thought it might be pre championship warm up with two teams who meet again in 4 weeks.

Turns out it was two half teams. Newbridge flying first half actually looked like Kilrea wouldn't score. Turned into a game in 2nd half with only 1 in it at a stage. All out just go for it stuff from Kilrea.

As a neutral attending this game its great to have hopefully unbiased opinion. Not a dirty tackle, few hard enough hits. No verbals between players.

The game ended with I reckon 6 yellow cards, a black card, a red after the final whistle. I think the ball was moved to 13 yard frees about 4 maybe 5 times.


When are Derry GAA going to step up with the standard of refs we are using, do we learn nothing from watching the like of Sean Hurson and Paul Faloon. Not a massive fan of Martin Mc Nally but he was superb on Sunday, mainly because he was invisible. The game is so fast players will get on with it any niggling will quickly fizzle out.

There was only one show in Newbridge this evening and unfortunately for double championship winners Newbridge and Kilreas 22man squad, he was wearing blue.

I wasn't at the game on Friday night but whenever I read about the ball being brought forward 4 or 5 times and the number of cards given out it wasn't hard to guess who the referee was

[braveheart]

I agree its a completely thankless job and always remember that when they are refereeing games theres a fair chance their club is playing somewhere else so they miss that also.

There are numerous young refs in Derry and having took underage teams find them very approachable lads, but the old guard you are hinting of is just streaming with arrogance at times. Players are going to be frustrated with decisions and feeling show, verbal abuse it obviously not the be tolerated but verbal disappointment isn't banned yet.

When the new rules were introduced I do think it made massive difference in respecting refs, but I do think respect is a two way street.
Shouting, dictating and gesturing to players about fouls or making them stand for a scolding and a yellow card is schoolyard stuff, and won't help.

The Referee in question is Notorious for moving the ball forward,this has been going on for years. So I find it mind boggling why players and management even attempt to speak back to him. Tbh I find him to be the most consistent Referee in Derry as you know what you are going to get with him and there is no back doors with him

[Wildweasel74]

Over at Glenullin v Dungiven there, Decent enough first half, Dungiven Keeper let a high one into the net to keep the game 2.07 - 1.06 at half time, First Dungiven goal, a goal line scramble. Keep that gap in the 2nd half, Dungiven totally changed their team 2nd half. Haran, O'Neill,Dillon stood out in the first half anyway.

[Ryan O]

I agree its a completely thankless job and always remember that when they are refereeing games theres a fair chance their club is playing somewhere else so they miss that also.

There are numerous young refs in Derry and having took underage teams find them very approachable lads, but the old guard you are hinting of is just streaming with arrogance at times. Players are going to be frustrated with decisions and feeling show, verbal abuse it obviously not the be tolerated but verbal disappointment isn't banned yet.

When the new rules were introduced I do think it made massive difference in respecting refs, but I do think respect is a two way street.
Shouting, dictating and gesturing to players about fouls or making them stand for a scolding and a yellow card is schoolyard stuff, and won't help.

The Referee in question is Notorious for moving the ball forward,this has been going on for years. So I find it mind boggling why players and management even attempt to speak back to him. Tbh I find him to be the most consistent Referee in Derry as you know what you are going to get with him and there is no back doors with him

Can't agree with that at all. When you see a referee park in the closest space to the gate, doesn't use the changing room supplied. Speaks to absolutely nobody pre match, at half time and leaves immediately.
He know himself firstly theres a high chance of controversy and secondly that people will potentially blame him.

Thats not normal for the vast majority of refs in Derry. Arrive early don't leave straight away give an opinion on the game. Referees are GAA men like the rest of us and I genuinely don't think theres any out with a dislike for individual clubs.
The ref in question gets very little respect, he shows absolutely no respect to players. Coming to a game speaking to nobody and going home again for £40 is a miserable way to spend an evening.

[Wildweasel74]

I seen all too many refs come stripped and away just as quick. If he telling what the free for, or why he didnt give it. whats the problem.

[Brendan]

Not the only ref coming in for public criticism this weekend either i see

[Stickman]

I agree its a completely thankless job and always remember that when they are refereeing games theres a fair chance their club is playing somewhere else so they miss that also.

There are numerous young refs in Derry and having took underage teams find them very approachable lads, but the old guard you are hinting of is just streaming with arrogance at times. Players are going to be frustrated with decisions and feeling show, verbal abuse it obviously not the be tolerated but verbal disappointment isn't banned yet.

When the new rules were introduced I do think it made massive difference in respecting refs, but I do think respect is a two way street.
Shouting, dictating and gesturing to players about fouls or making them stand for a scolding and a yellow card is schoolyard stuff, and won't help.

The Referee in question is Notorious for moving the ball forward,this has been going on for years. So I find it mind boggling why players and management even attempt to speak back to him. Tbh I find him to be the most consistent Referee in Derry as you know what you are going to get with him and there is no back doors with him

Can't agree with that at all. When you see a referee park in the closest space to the gate, doesn't use the changing room supplied. Speaks to absolutely nobody pre match, at half time and leaves immediately.
He know himself firstly theres a high chance of controversy and secondly that people will potentially blame him.

Thats not normal for the vast majority of refs in Derry. Arrive early don't leave straight away give an opinion on the game. Referees are GAA men like the rest of us and I genuinely don't think theres any out with a dislike for individual clubs.
The ref in question gets very little respect, he shows absolutely no respect to players. Coming to a game speaking to nobody and going home again for £40 is a miserable way to spend an evening.

Always found most of the refs approachable in derry and sometimes they even offer a different opinion on a match from what they have picked up on the pitch as opposed to what has been seen on the sidelines.

I have seen referees at times come kitted out for a game and straight onto the pitch especially at underage level. Could this be that they have just finished work, popped home, bite to eat and out the door, knowing they are tight for time so have put the kit on ready to go?

[braveheart]

I agree its a completely thankless job and always remember that when they are refereeing games theres a fair chance their club is playing somewhere else so they miss that also.

There are numerous young refs in Derry and having took underage teams find them very approachable lads, but the old guard you are hinting of is just streaming with arrogance at times. Players are going to be frustrated with decisions and feeling show, verbal abuse it obviously not the be tolerated but verbal disappointment isn't banned yet.

When the new rules were introduced I do think it made massive difference in respecting refs, but I do think respect is a two way street.
Shouting, dictating and gesturing to players about fouls or making them stand for a scolding and a yellow card is schoolyard stuff, and won't help.

The Referee in question is Notorious for moving the ball forward,this has been going on for years. So I find it mind boggling why players and management even attempt to speak back to him. Tbh I find him to be the most consistent Referee in Derry as you know what you are going to get with him and there is no back doors with him

Can't agree with that at all. When you see a referee park in the closest space to the gate, doesn't use the changing room supplied. Speaks to absolutely nobody pre match, at half time and leaves immediately.
He know himself firstly theres a high chance of controversy and secondly that people will potentially blame him.

Thats not normal for the vast majority of refs in Derry. Arrive early don't leave straight away give an opinion on the game. Referees are GAA men like the rest of us and I genuinely don't think theres any out with a dislike for individual clubs.
The ref in question gets very little respect, he shows absolutely no respect to players. Coming to a game speaking to nobody and going home again for £40 is a miserable way to spend an evening.

This sounds like another Personal attack to me. Imagine a Referee,after taking abuse for 60-65 minutes not wanting to hang around for another 15-30 and take more abuse for some of the decisions he made. Especially from people who think like you! In most games there is a level of controversy of some kind so why would you hang around. And as Stickman says,we don't know what these Referee's lifestyle is like so if they come kitted out that is their choice. But £40 wouldn't motivate me to do it,that is a definite.

[theticklemister]

Who gives a fiddlers fcuk what about :

Where the referee parks

If he comes changed already

Wants to leave after the game.


If the chosen referee decides to bring the ball up lots of times, there is going to be a reason.

[Ryan O]

I agree its a completely thankless job and always remember that when they are refereeing games theres a fair chance their club is playing somewhere else so they miss that also.

There are numerous young refs in Derry and having took underage teams find them very approachable lads, but the old guard you are hinting of is just streaming with arrogance at times. Players are going to be frustrated with decisions and feeling show, verbal abuse it obviously not the be tolerated but verbal disappointment isn't banned yet.

When the new rules were introduced I do think it made massive difference in respecting refs, but I do think respect is a two way street.
Shouting, dictating and gesturing to players about fouls or making them stand for a scolding and a yellow card is schoolyard stuff, and won't help.

The Referee in question is Notorious for moving the ball forward,this has been going on for years. So I find it mind boggling why players and management even attempt to speak back to him. Tbh I find him to be the most consistent Referee in Derry as you know what you are going to get with him and there is no back doors with him

Can't agree with that at all. When you see a referee park in the closest space to the gate, doesn't use the changing room supplied. Speaks to absolutely nobody pre match, at half time and leaves immediately.
He know himself firstly theres a high chance of controversy and secondly that people will potentially blame him.

Thats not normal for the vast majority of refs in Derry. Arrive early don't leave straight away give an opinion on the game. Referees are GAA men like the rest of us and I genuinely don't think theres any out with a dislike for individual clubs.
The ref in question gets very little respect, he shows absolutely no respect to players. Coming to a game speaking to nobody and going home again for £40 is a miserable way to spend an evening.

This sounds like another Personal attack to me. Imagine a Referee,after taking abuse for 60-65 minutes not wanting to hang around for another 15-30 and take more abuse for some of the decisions he made. Especially from people who think like you! In most games there is a level of controversy of some kind so why would you hang around. And as Stickman says,we don't know what these Referee's lifestyle is like so if they come kitted out that is their choice. But £40 wouldn't motivate me to do it,that is a definite.

couldn't care less what you think it sounds like, I named nobody. Fill your boots with assumptions.

I don't abuse refs and contrary to what the narrative is, theres no controversy when a good ref is involved.

[Ryan O]

Who gives a fiddlers fcuk what about :

Where the referee parks

If he comes changed already

Wants to leave after the game.


If the chosen referee decides to bring the ball up lots of times, there is going to be a reason.

deliberately missing the point, theres no interaction with absolutely anyone at any club.

How does that help with building any sort of respect. Used to be before underage games refs came in had wee word with two squads on things he would be particularly pulling people on. Takes seconds to say who committed a foul and what they seen.

Keep going the way we are going you'll breed a generation of robots who can't show any emotion on the pitch for fear of a reprimand. Players are allowed to be frustrated if a free is given against them, its an immediate reaction. Its the secondary reaction that I issue with, thats what the rule should be clamping down on.


And if you don't give a fiddlers fcuk, sure don't comment..I don't give a fiddlers fcuk about screening but its bee in your bonnet.

[theticklemister]

Who gives a fiddlers fcuk what about :

Where the referee parks

If he comes changed already

Wants to leave after the game.


If the chosen referee decides to bring the ball up lots of times, there is going to be a reason.

deliberately missing the point, theres no interaction with absolutely anyone at any club.

How does that help with building any sort of respect. Used to be before underage games refs came in had wee word with two squads on things he would be particularly pulling people on. Takes seconds to say who committed a foul and what they seen.

Keep going the way we are going you'll breed a generation of robots who can't show any emotion on the pitch for fear of a reprimand. Players are allowed to be frustrated if a free is given against them, its an immediate reaction. Its the secondary reaction that I issue with, thats what the rule should be clamping down on.


And if you don't give a fiddlers fcuk, sure don't comment..I don't give a fiddlers fcuk about screening but its bee in your bonnet.

This certain referee may have done up to 4/5 games that week. It's not up to them to make small talk. They may have travelled up to 45 minutes to get there after/before work and make the return journey. Darting and diving to fulfill the fixture,because by the looks of it, the county needs every available referee. They may not have seen their family that day and may be getting back an unreasonable hour.

[jb77]

Desertmartin and Banagher best game of the weekend I'd say. Banagher just pipping it at the end, odd seeing Murray at 11 tracking up and down the pitch.

Newbridge should have stuck with the first keeper not sure what that was about. I thought the sub keeper was usually a coach for them? Anyway all sorts go on this time of year. Plenty of absences for Glen starting to wonder if some of them aren't coming back at all

[Ryan O]

Desertmartin and Banagher best game of the weekend I'd say. Banagher just pipping it at the end, odd seeing Murray at 11 tracking up and down the pitch.

Newbridge should have stuck with the first keeper not sure what that was about. I thought the sub keeper was usually a coach for them? Anyway all sorts go on this time of year. Plenty of absences for Glen starting to wonder if some of them aren't coming back at all

heard theres a couple in America, not sure any truth in it.

Surely can't just drop back in like that and win a championship? If they do its very impressive.


Swatragh vs Slaughtneil derby tonight with Slaughtneil needing a win to go back top of table.Swatragh would be hoping to spoil their party you would think.