Who can stop Kerry?

[Aaron Boone]

Kerry's training for the season can begin in earnest now.

[Dinny Breen]

If we're being honest with ourselves, there was absolutely no way of a Clare win today, just not possible. Is that what we want as a Quarter-Final, as a 'spectacle'?

The Provincial system proves yet again that it has no place in 2016, listen to f**k up GAA suits!

Tá an ceart agat. There is too much psychological history left in the provincial championships. Clare and Roscommon would benefit from a more open system.

This and the media which is dominated by experts from the "top" counties fuel it even more. It's all just a cycle of teams been told they are beaten before they even step on the pitch.

[From the Bunker]

Kerry's training for the season can begin in earnest now.

Their training started today. Nice run-out before the semi final.

[kerryforsam16]

Donaghy the worst man in the country for hitting wee men on the sneak with borderline yellow card tackles

The box on the head he gave to the Clare lad was more a borderline red card to be honest.

Never a red card

[themac_23]

If we're being honest with ourselves, there was absolutely no way of a Clare win today, just not possible. Is that what we want as a Quarter-Final, as a 'spectacle'?

The Provincial system proves yet again that it has no place in 2016, listen to f**k up GAA suits!

Tá an ceart agat. There is too much psychological history left in the provincial championships. Clare and Roscommon would benefit from a more open system.

This and the media which is dominated by experts from the "top" counties fuel it even more. It's all just a cycle of teams been told they are beaten before they even step on the pitch.

People think by changing the system and format mean it will change, no chance. all that will change will be the names of the counties, in fact it would probably become more of a closed shop. for example if they go for the 8 groups of 4, it will simply be seeded by division so each group will have a div 1 team, div 2 team, div 3 team and div 4 team. the last 16 will then be a case of the teams finishing top playing teams that finish 2nd. again the big teams will be kept apart. so we will still be ending up with the situation we are in now with the same teams at our 1/4 final stage and if anything it will be with less competitive games. people think the gaa are going to go for an open draw, not a chance.

[macdanger2]

If we're being honest with ourselves, there was absolutely no way of a Clare win today, just not possible. Is that what we want as a Quarter-Final, as a 'spectacle'?

The Provincial system proves yet again that it has no place in 2016, listen to f**k up GAA suits!

Tá an ceart agat. There is too much psychological history left in the provincial championships. Clare and Roscommon would benefit from a more open system.

This and the media which is dominated by experts from the "top" counties fuel it even more. It's all just a cycle of teams been told they are beaten before they even step on the pitch.

People think by changing the system and format mean it will change, no chance. all that will change will be the names of the counties, in fact it would probably become more of a closed shop. for example if they go for the 8 groups of 4, it will simply be seeded by division so each group will have a div 1 team, div 2 team, div 3 team and div 4 team. the last 16 will then be a case of the teams finishing top playing teams that finish 2nd. again the big teams will be kept apart. so we will still be ending up with the situation we are in now with the same teams at our 1/4 final stage and if anything it will be with less competitive games. people think the gaa are going to go for an open draw, not a chance.

Exactly, changing the structure of the championship without doing something to raise the standards in underperforming counties will change nothing.

[BennyHarp]

If we're being honest with ourselves, there was absolutely no way of a Clare win today, just not possible. Is that what we want as a Quarter-Final, as a 'spectacle'?

The Provincial system proves yet again that it has no place in 2016, listen to f**k up GAA suits!

Tá an ceart agat. There is too much psychological history left in the provincial championships. Clare and Roscommon would benefit from a more open system.

This and the media which is dominated by experts from the "top" counties fuel it even more. It's all just a cycle of teams been told they are beaten before they even step on the pitch.

People think by changing the system and format mean it will change, no chance. all that will change will be the names of the counties, in fact it would probably become more of a closed shop. for example if they go for the 8 groups of 4, it will simply be seeded by division so each group will have a div 1 team, div 2 team, div 3 team and div 4 team. the last 16 will then be a case of the teams finishing top playing teams that finish 2nd. again the big teams will be kept apart. so we will still be ending up with the situation we are in now with the same teams at our 1/4 final stage and if anything it will be with less competitive games. people think the gaa are going to go for an open draw, not a chance.

Exactly, changing the structure of the championship without doing something to raise the standards in underperforming counties will change nothing.

Yes but at each team will have equitable routes to the semi finals.

[Zulu]

Not the thread for it but changing the format can have a massive impact upon the season. Yes, the strongest teams will still most likely make the last 8 but most of us could probably predict the top 4 in the premiership, la liga and the Bundesliga,  the winner of the Olympic 100m, the semi finalists in the next rugby world cup, the semi finalists in the next soccer world cup, the playoff teams in the NFL etc. (not saying we'd get all of those right of course but you have a lot of usual suspects who tend to be at the business end of their sport). The likes of Dublin, Kerry, Tyrone and Mayo will be there or thereabouts most years and that's fine but we can make the journey there more interesting for all involved.

[Keyser soze]

If we're being honest with ourselves, there was absolutely no way of a Clare win today, just not possible. Is that what we want as a Quarter-Final, as a 'spectacle'?

The Provincial system proves yet again that it has no place in 2016, listen to f**k up GAA suits!

Tá an ceart agat. There is too much psychological history left in the provincial championships. Clare and Roscommon would benefit from a more open system.

This and the media which is dominated by experts from the "top" counties fuel it even more. It's all just a cycle of teams been told they are beaten before they even step on the pitch.

People think by changing the system and format mean it will change, no chance. all that will change will be the names of the counties, in fact it would probably become more of a closed shop. for example if they go for the 8 groups of 4, it will simply be seeded by division so each group will have a div 1 team, div 2 team, div 3 team and div 4 team. the last 16 will then be a case of the teams finishing top playing teams that finish 2nd. again the big teams will be kept apart. so we will still be ending up with the situation we are in now with the same teams at our 1/4 final stage and if anything it will be with less competitive games. people think the gaa are going to go for an open draw, not a chance.

Exactly, changing the structure of the championship without doing something to raise the standards in underperforming counties will change nothing.

No no no no no no stop talking nonsense. Sure a champions league format with a backdoor option for the top 4 teams will ensure scintillating balling all summer long, all games will go to the wire [if a draw can be avoided it can only be done so by a last minute sideline wonderscore], there won't be a handpass in sight and every game will be all ticket. Easypeasy.

[David McKeown]

If we're being honest with ourselves, there was absolutely no way of a Clare win today, just not possible. Is that what we want as a Quarter-Final, as a 'spectacle'?

The Provincial system proves yet again that it has no place in 2016, listen to f**k up GAA suits!

Tá an ceart agat. There is too much psychological history left in the provincial championships. Clare and Roscommon would benefit from a more open system.

This and the media which is dominated by experts from the "top" counties fuel it even more. It's all just a cycle of teams been told they are beaten before they even step on the pitch.

People think by changing the system and format mean it will change, no chance. all that will change will be the names of the counties, in fact it would probably become more of a closed shop. for example if they go for the 8 groups of 4, it will simply be seeded by division so each group will have a div 1 team, div 2 team, div 3 team and div 4 team. the last 16 will then be a case of the teams finishing top playing teams that finish 2nd. again the big teams will be kept apart. so we will still be ending up with the situation we are in now with the same teams at our 1/4 final stage and if anything it will be with less competitive games. people think the gaa are going to go for an open draw, not a chance.

Exactly, changing the structure of the championship without doing something to raise the standards in underperforming counties will change nothing.

Yes but at each team will have equitable routes to the semi finals.

More than currently?

You could have a group that's

Kerry
Armagh
Offaly
London

And another group of
Dublin
Tyrone
Tipperary
Louth


Hardly any more equitable than the current system.

[BennyHarp]

If we're being honest with ourselves, there was absolutely no way of a Clare win today, just not possible. Is that what we want as a Quarter-Final, as a 'spectacle'?

The Provincial system proves yet again that it has no place in 2016, listen to f**k up GAA suits!

Tá an ceart agat. There is too much psychological history left in the provincial championships. Clare and Roscommon would benefit from a more open system.

This and the media which is dominated by experts from the "top" counties fuel it even more. It's all just a cycle of teams been told they are beaten before they even step on the pitch.

People think by changing the system and format mean it will change, no chance. all that will change will be the names of the counties, in fact it would probably become more of a closed shop. for example if they go for the 8 groups of 4, it will simply be seeded by division so each group will have a div 1 team, div 2 team, div 3 team and div 4 team. the last 16 will then be a case of the teams finishing top playing teams that finish 2nd. again the big teams will be kept apart. so we will still be ending up with the situation we are in now with the same teams at our 1/4 final stage and if anything it will be with less competitive games. people think the gaa are going to go for an open draw, not a chance.

Exactly, changing the structure of the championship without doing something to raise the standards in underperforming counties will change nothing.

Yes but at each team will have equitable routes to the semi finals.

More than currently?

You could have a group that's

Kerry
Armagh
Offaly
London

And another group of
Dublin
Tyrone
Tipperary
Louth


Hardly any more equitable than the current system.

At least that will be the same number of games against teams who are at a level because of their results. I.e. Tipp have emerged from div 3 this year but it's more of an anomaly, the rest of div 3 are much of a muchness. At least any favourable draw can be in the hands of the county themselves. I.e get promoted and you'll get a better seed and not based on geography. Also the odds on one county like Kerry getting a favourable draw EVERY year is much reduced.

[thejuice]

another thing they could do to make those group of four games interesting, (practicalities aside) would be to make them all double headers. So not only do you see your own team on the day but you could watch the other group opponents. could really stoke things up a bit.

[thebackbar1]

i was approaching Croke Park just after half time in the Kerry V Clare match, i saw a Kerry reg bus go by, there seemed to be a team onboard, would it of been the Kerry minor team? did they not stay around for the Kerry/Clare match ?

[twohands!!!]

On the provincial championships the fact that someone like the Clare manager has come out so strongly against them should be noted.

The fact that a manager such as Collins who has walked the walk in terms of improving his team thinks they are a waste of time is a big signal for me that they are past their sell-by date.

[themac_23]

i was approaching Croke Park just after half time in the Kerry V Clare match, i saw a Kerry reg bus go by, there seemed to be a team onboard, would it of been the Kerry minor team? did they not stay around for the Kerry/Clare match ?

Could have been the Kerry senior team on the bus tbf...