Worst accent in Ireland hi!

Started by theticklemister, April 27, 2013, 10:32:54 AM

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Which group of people have the worst accent in Ireland

South West Cork/Kerry
6 (4%)
Derry City
21 (14%)
County Derry
6 (4%)
North Antrim
12 (8%)
Belfast
21 (14%)
Posh D4 Dublin
36 (24%)
Donegal
0 (0%)
Louth
19 (12.7%)
Fermanagh
2 (1.3%)
Scally Dublin
25 (16.7%)
Waterford/Wexford
2 (1.3%)

Total Members Voted: 150

muppet

Quote from: Premier Emperor on April 29, 2013, 10:41:54 AM
Quote from: muppet on April 29, 2013, 10:33:39 AM
Quote from: Premier Emperor on April 29, 2013, 10:31:40 AM
Clare accent is awful.
People who move to Dublin and start talking D4 are a disgrace.

The funny thing is the real D4 accent is nothing like what people who aren't from the area think it is.
What is the real one?
The one I would classify as D4 is a mix of posh British and fake American.

It may be, but no one I ever met who is actually from D4 speaks like that. Just because RTE is based there doesn't mean everyone who is from there speaks like they do in RTE. The real D4 accent varies from strong inner city Dublin to a more south-side accent but rarely sounds like the 'yaw' attributed to it.
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brokencrossbar1

Quote from: muppet on April 29, 2013, 11:41:06 AM
Quote from: Premier Emperor on April 29, 2013, 10:41:54 AM
Quote from: muppet on April 29, 2013, 10:33:39 AM
Quote from: Premier Emperor on April 29, 2013, 10:31:40 AM
Clare accent is awful.
People who move to Dublin and start talking D4 are a disgrace.

The funny thing is the real D4 accent is nothing like what people who aren't from the area think it is.
What is the real one?
The one I would classify as D4 is a mix of posh British and fake American.

It may be, but no one I ever met who is actually from D4 speaks like that. Just because RTE is based there doesn't mean everyone who is from there speaks like they do in RTE. The real D4 accent varies from strong inner city Dublin to a more south-side accent but rarely sounds like the 'yaw' attributed to it.

I would classify the 'yaw' accent as a tv/radio accent and is not a real one.  The AA Road watch is a prime example of it. 

muppet

Quote from: brokencrossbar1 on April 29, 2013, 12:56:34 PM
I would classify the 'yaw' accent as a tv/radio accent and is not a real one.  The AA Road watch is a prime example of it.

There are different versions of these false accents. Some sound like Buckingham Palace meets Far & Away, while another version is the DJ mid-Atlantic accent. They all sound very false and the people who speak like this are not endearing themselves to anyone.
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southdown

Am I the only one who thinks Brendan Rodgers sounds Scottish?

illdecide

BC1 that girl that reads the AA roadwatch around 5ish def has to be from your part of the country (north louth/south armagh/monaghan) has to be
I can swim a little but i can't fly an inch

Premier Emperor

A few other awful ones
Wexford
Waterford
That lispy posh Galway/Mayo accent.
Cavan/Louth/Meath hi.
Cork city
Limerick city

brokencrossbar1

Quote from: southdown on April 29, 2013, 03:21:11 PM
Am I the only one who thinks Brendan Rodgers sounds Scottish?

Ulster-Scottish :P

There is a fair Scots twang around much of the Glens.

Declan


muppet

Quote from: Premier Emperor on April 29, 2013, 03:37:03 PM
A few other awful ones
Wexford
Waterford
That lispy posh Galway/Mayo accent.
Cavan/Louth/Meath hi.
Cork city
Limerick city

The mainly Munster screwing up the meaning of the words leave/left/let regardless of accent is quite funny at first, then annoying.
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Lazer

Quote from: illdecide on April 29, 2013, 03:23:09 PM
BC1 that girl that reads the AA roadwatch around 5ish def has to be from your part of the country (north louth/south armagh/monaghan) has to be

Aoife Carragher is from Monaghan I think
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Seamroga in exile

Quote from: brokencrossbar1 on April 29, 2013, 04:07:11 PM
Quote from: southdown on April 29, 2013, 03:21:11 PM
Am I the only one who thinks Brendan Rodgers sounds Scottish?

Ulster-Scottish :P

There is a fair Scots twang around much of the Glens.
north antrim, east down, west coast and islands off Scotland were all a part of the same kingdom a few centuries ago. It was known as Dalriada. That's why we have a similar accent. Ballymena and kilkeel accents are almost identical .
"What we've got here is failure to communicate"

Eamonnca1

Ever heard someone from Larne? You'd swear they were from Glasgow.

rodney trotter

Quote from: Seamroga in exile on April 29, 2013, 06:18:15 PM
Quote from: brokencrossbar1 on April 29, 2013, 04:07:11 PM
Quote from: southdown on April 29, 2013, 03:21:11 PM
Am I the only one who thinks Brendan Rodgers sounds Scottish?

Ulster-Scottish :P

There is a fair Scots twang around much of the Glens.
north antrim, east down, west coast and islands off Scotland were all a part of the same kingdom a few centuries ago. It was known as Dalriada. That's why we have a similar accent. Ballymena and kilkeel accents are almost identical .

Yeah Martin Clarke is from Kilkeel. Mix of a Scots/Aussie twang now

Hardy


cynic

All accents are grand - provided they're genuine.  Wannabe posh English accents - of the kind that you get in parts of South Dublin and in the well-heeled parts of the East Coast commuter towns outside Belfast - and wannabe mid Atlantic acents are not objectionable because they sound LA / Home Counties English, but because - to anyone who has lived in England or the US - they sound so desperately fake.  There's a bloke on Radio Ulster, Seamus or Conor something, who has long ago lost the ability to pronounce the letter 'r'.  You get a variant of this in S Dublin - 'Ah-T.E.' for 'RTE'.  A classic is when they say: 'Ah-TE suppowting the ahts' for 'RTE supporting the arts'.  And all those wannabe Home Counties Ulster Unionist blokes who take about 'Nawthn Ah-land' for 'Northern Ireland'; or 'the Island of Eye-land' for the 'Island of Ireland'.  When I lived in S Dublin, you'd hear Irish Dads saying to their kids, e.g.: 'Jack, get your coat'; and it sounded like: 'Jah-ak, get yoe cowt'.
 
There are 3 types of Dublin accent:
- West British - as above and see also:  http://d4accent.blogspot.co.uk/
- Brennan's Bread / old style Dubliner (a lovely warm accent with a full-blooded emphasis on individual sounds - e.g., 'time at the zoo' is delivered as 'toyum at the iz-you'
- kn**ker (whiny, aggressive, mouth mostly closed while speaking ): as an example of the latter, I once saw a kn**ker in a shop in Dublin asking an Asian shop assistant for 'foy-uvv yoerrr'.  He meant 'five Euro', the scared lad behind the counter hadn't a clue and someone had to translate to stop the soon-enraged kn**ker from losing the plot. 

The inner-city Belfast accent always sound like it's spoiling for a fight, even when people are being civil.  To get the effect, speak as if your jaw has been frozen in the dentists and you're smoking a pipe and leave out most consonants.  'Cash' becomes 'cosh' and e.g., 'Alright there big lad' becomes 'ayerigh er biglod'.  'A' is often substituted for 'o'; e.g.: 'I'll knock your bollocks in' becomes 'I'll knaack yer balleeks in'.  At the other end of the social scale, Belfast people - and people East of the Bann generally - are incapable of the rolled 'ch' sound.  Thus you get 'Charlie Hockey' for 'Charlie Haughey', 'Lock Erne' for 'Lough Erne', 'Mackerafelt' for 'Magherafelt' etc.  They also can't distinguish between 'u' and 'oo'.  Hence: 'President Boosh', 'poosh your trolly over the ramp' (a classic from Aldergrove airport), 'Foolham' Football Club etc etc. The other Belfast biggie is how they say words like 'now' and 'town' - these are said as 'noy' and 'toyn'.  ('I'm heading doyn the toyn noy')         

As a general rule in Ireland, the West is the best.  To my ears, Munster and Connaught accents are more musical, ditto the W Coast all the way up to Donegal, and including Sligo and Fermanagh.  Pound for pound, a Galway accent is always more likely to sound more pleasant than a flat (sorry, fla') Laois accent ... My own county of Tyrone is split.  East and North of the county is rapid and guttural and can be harsh enough – 'like terriers barking' as someone once said.  A bloke from Strabane used to have the record for world's fastest talker.  When Brian Dooher (from Aughabrack direction) picked up Sam in 08, he started out in Irish and switched to English half way through, but I reckon some people listening couldn't hear much difference.  West and South is much slower and softer and some parts are heavily influenced by the Fermanagh accent (much as we may not wish to admit that!).  A feature of a W / S Tyrone accent is how words like 'drink' will be softened by introducing a 'h', thus: 'dhrink'.     

Overall though, it's about authenticity and personality.  If you're putting on an accent, you'll sound annoying, no matter what the accent is.  Equally, if you're an aggressive humourless loudmouth, you'll give any accent a bad name. But if you're smart and charming and have a soft accent as well, then you're probably Mick O'Dwyer.  I used, as a boy in the 70s, to marvel at the contrast between this gentle-tongued polite bloke who turned out teams that were skilled (obviously) but also driven, ruthless teams who would wipe the pitch with the opposition.  The clinical nature of the football massacre you had just witnessed didn't seem to fit with the soft twinkly accent now heaping praise upon the vanquished and telling us (with a straight face) what a close match it had been(!).