Dublin v Tyrone quarter final 6.8.11 SFC 2011

[Captain Scarlet]

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i know tyrone were good in the second half against the ros but they are so naive and they handed tyrone so much ball in the end. i have a sneaky feeling dublin could do it.

[tyrone86]

Well Barry Cahill starting at CHF should give you an idea that your team isn't as good as some of ye are making out . . . him and Cullen are defenders yet both will be starting in the HF line!!

HF is where your creativity comes from yet these 2 are not creative players. Tyrone will more than likely be playing Brian McGuigan and Peter Harte in their Half Forward Line. . . I think that illustrates the point I am trying to make.

Does it mean Dublin are going ultra defensive and are going to play loads of men behind the ball?

I was alluding more to this myth that Dublin have these great players when really they only have 2 decent forwards in their team. Like everyone else who comes up against a better team of course they will retreat and try to hit Tyrone on the counter. I don't think it will work for them.

Most of the tyrone forward line is still unproven. Tyrone will still need all of Mulligan, O Neill and Dooher to win this game at the wkend. So no change there

Sure so were McCullagh, Tommy and Penrose in 2008.....

[INDIANA]

Well Barry Cahill starting at CHF should give you an idea that your team isn't as good as some of ye are making out . . . him and Cullen are defenders yet both will be starting in the HF line!!

HF is where your creativity comes from yet these 2 are not creative players. Tyrone will more than likely be playing Brian McGuigan and Peter Harte in their Half Forward Line. . . I think that illustrates the point I am trying to make.

Does it mean Dublin are going ultra defensive and are going to play loads of men behind the ball?

I was alluding more to this myth that Dublin have these great players when really they only have 2 decent forwards in their team. Like everyone else who comes up against a better team of course they will retreat and try to hit Tyrone on the counter. I don't think it will work for them.

Most of the tyrone forward line is still unproven. Tyrone will still need all of Mulligan, O Neill and Dooher to win this game at the wkend. So no change there

Sure so were McCullagh, Tommy and Penrose in 2008.....

True and maybe lightening will strike twice.

But Dublin have a far better defence then 2008.

Either way I dont see Tyrone giving Dublin a hiding on saturday. They may well beat them but I cant see a 7-8 point win for either team.

[nrico2006]

Well Barry Cahill starting at CHF should give you an idea that your team isn't as good as some of ye are making out . . . him and Cullen are defenders yet both will be starting in the HF line!!

HF is where your creativity comes from yet these 2 are not creative players. Tyrone will more than likely be playing Brian McGuigan and Peter Harte in their Half Forward Line. . . I think that illustrates the point I am trying to make.

Does it mean Dublin are going ultra defensive and are going to play loads of men behind the ball?

I was alluding more to this myth that Dublin have these great players when really they only have 2 decent forwards in their team. Like everyone else who comes up against a better team of course they will retreat and try to hit Tyrone on the counter. I don't think it will work for them.

Most of the tyrone forward line is still unproven. Tyrone will still need all of Mulligan, O Neill and Dooher to win this game at the wkend. So no change there

Sure so were McCullagh, Tommy and Penrose in 2008.....

True and maybe lightening will strike twice.

But Dublin have a far better defence then 2008.

Either way I dont see Tyrone giving Dublin a hiding on saturday. They may well beat them but I cant see a 7-8 point win for either team.

Its usually the hidings that nobody see's coming.

[Fuzzman]

Hard to believe Clucko is joint 3rd top scorer for the Dubs with Connolly.
Suppose that means they're spreading out the scoring much better these days and not too dependant on any one man

Anyone got any Tyrone team news? Anyone get injured this week in training.
How's Cassidy & Penrose?
Has Cassidy played in Croker for the seniors before?

From today's Irish Indo
SINCE there's a general perception that all goalkeepers are mad anyway, it won't come as a surprise that one of their breed has introduced a new strain to the mix.

Not content with shot-stopping, taking kick-outs and bringing a beady organisational eye to the Dublin defence, Stephen Cluxton is amusing himself by attempting to out-score as many of his forwards as he possibly can. What's more, he's succeeding.

He has already kicked 0-6 from '45s' and frees in three championship games this year, leaving him joint-third on Dublin's scoring table with Diarmuid Connolly. Only the Brogan brothers, Bernard and Alan are ahead of him.

Whether Cluxton's exalted position so high up the hot-shot parade is a reflection on the shortage of specialist finishers in the Dublin squad is a moot point but, whatever the source, every score is crucial.

Right now, Cluxton's boot is a dangerous weapon for all opposition who concede '45s' or long-range frees. His progression to dead ball specialist yielded 0-5 in last year's championship and, as his strike-rate continued this year, it led to other counties adding their goalkeepers' kicking skills to the attacking armoury.

Mayo's Robert Hennelly and Limerick's Brian Scanlon each scored a point last Sunday and other goalkeepers have tried their luck too, albeit with mixed results.

Meanwhile, Cluxton remains seriously consistent and is now established as a prominent part of Dublin's scoring machine.

It's a valuable addition to the already impressive portfolio he brings to the cause as he continues the remarkable trend of goalkeeping longevity which has been a feature of Dublin football for decades. Now in his 10th season as first choice keeper, Cluxton still has a long way to go to match John O'Leary, but, at the age of 29, time is still very much on his side.

O'Leary lasted 18 seasons (1980-97), having taken over from Paddy Cullen, who held the position from 1967 to 1979. The only relatively short-term incumbent was Davy Byrne who was No 1 for four seasons between the O'Leary and Cluxton reigns.

Cluxton played twice in the 2001 championship, but when Byrne returned from injury, he displaced the Parnells teenager and played out the remainder of the campaign.

However, when Tommy Lyons took over as manager at the end of the year, it quickly emerged that Cluxton would be his first choice, a role he has filled ever since under Paul Caffrey and Pat Gilroy.

It means that Dublin have only had four regular goalkeepers since 1967.

O'Leary, who set a record for all positions by playing in 70 consecutive championship games, said four years ago that Cluxton would extend the sequence to four goalkeepers in 50 years, a prediction which looks highly likely to prove accurate.

That's set to happen in six years' time, at which stage Cluxton would be 35 years old, still a year younger than O'Leary when he finally de-commissioned after a Leinster first round defeat by Meath in 1997

O'Leary has always been a huge fan of Cluxton and readily admits that he considers him a better goalkeeper than he was throughout an outstanding career. Given O'Leary's deserved reputation as one of the best goalkeepers of all time, that's quite a compliment.It was delivered before Cluxton added his point-kicking routine, an added-value factor which his predecessors didn't have.

The domination of the Dublin goal-keeping position by so few over so long isn't exactly encouraging for aspiring contenders, but then it's very comforting for the management and supporters to know that the county continues to produce such outstanding No 1s.

O'Leary was only seven-years-old when Cullen took over as Dublin goalkeeper in 1967, so who would have thought he would be the man to replace him? Now, out there among Dublin clubs, is a young goalkeeper who hopes to become first choice someday, but on the evidence of Cluxton's consistency, he will have a long wait.

Cluxton is already on his way to becoming the highest-scoring goalkeeper in championship history, a bonus which is giving Dublin an added dimension in their push to win the All-Ireland title for the first time since 1995.

Conceding '45s' is now a costly business for the opposition, as Laois discovered in the Leinster first round when Cluxton converted three into points.

He added two more points ('45' and free) against Kildare in a semi-final Dublin won by a point and a '45' against Wexford in the final.

Meanwhile, his shot-stopping standards have remained as high as ever. With the exception of the defensive collapse which left him mercilessly exposed against Meath in last year's Leinster semi-final (the Royals scored five goals), the concession rate has been quite low.

Cluxton has conceded an average of one goal for every 122 minutes of championship action (including extra-time against Wexford last year), which is a very impressive lock-out rate. Now that he has taken to contributing at the other end, it raises the question -- is there anything he can't do?

Surely it can't be long before he is appointed captain.

After all, there's a winning precedent for Dublin having a goalkeeper as captain as O'Leary led to them to All-Ireland glory in 1995 and was generally recognised as being a superb leader over several seasons.

- Martin Breheny

[blewuporstuffed]

cassidy played against the dubs in the 125 years floodlit game, also came on against cork in 09

[heffo]

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[Rois]

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Is that the best yez can do - we've Mickey Harte coming to the Lansdowne Hotel on Pembroke Road for Tyrone supporters on Friday night, and it's free 

[heffo]

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On this Friday in the Baggot Inn at 6.45pm..

Is that the best yez can do - we've Mickey Harte coming to the Lansdowne Hotel on Pembroke Road for Tyrone supporters on Friday night, and it's free 

Mickey is a God fearing Christian and if he were here he'd tell you it's a sin to brag.

[ONeill]

....never outta the papers you two.........see that smirk on FoSB's face......people are beginning to talk

[Dinny Breen]

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On this Friday in the Baggot Inn at 6.45pm..

Is that the best yez can do - we've Mickey Harte coming to the Lansdowne Hotel on Pembroke Road for Tyrone supporters on Friday night, and it's free 

Mickey is a God fearing Christian and if he were here he'd tell you it's a sin to brag.

Mickey Harte doesn't fear Bernard Brogan, does he?

[ONeill]

Why are some people so sure that Cahill is playing CHF?

[heffo]

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On this Friday in the Baggot Inn at 6.45pm..

Is that the best yez can do - we've Mickey Harte coming to the Lansdowne Hotel on Pembroke Road for Tyrone supporters on Friday night, and it's free 

Mickey is a God fearing Christian and if he were here he'd tell you it's a sin to brag.

Mickey Harte doesn't fear Bernard Brogan, does he?

He doesn't believe in him but he's afraid of him.

[heffo]

Why are some people so sure that Cahill is playing CHF?

Just are. Ok.

[Croí na hÉireann]

Heading to this match on Saturday and looking forward to it. While I believe Tyrone kicked it away last year I feel Dublin are going to come through this year. Like Mayo I think they have just being doing enough to get through their provincial campaigns and it starts here for them this weekend. The fact that there's no word coming from the Dublin camp would indicate that they're going to seriously up it a level and I would regard the Cahill at 11 rumours as a red herring. Alan Brogan will play there with Bernard and Connolly inside. If Cahill does start it will be as a third midfielder as this is where Dublin are weak. I expect either himself or Bastick to be hanging out of Cavanagh from the throw in.

As well as McMenamin played in the league, Dublin shouldn't start him. Tyrone will gobble him up. Bring him on when their legs are wavering. I wouldn't start Fitzsimons either, he's too loose and Coney or Mulligan will take him for a few points. O'Carroll will hold Donnelly and the wing backs will keep the Tyrone wing forwards thinking. The key could be Brian McGuigan though, probably having his finest year since 05 and it will be interesting to see if Ger Brennan follows him around. I don't think he will though as he'll be detailed to hold the center and stop the likes of Cavanagh marauding through. You'll probably see the 3rd midfielder pick him up.

I think all that can be summed up as: if the two Brogans and Connolly are on form and enough quick, quality ball can be delivered up to them, Dublin will come through. How Tyrone try to counteract that will be interesting.