Armagh v Dublin - NFL 05/02/11

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DuffleKing

Quote from: David McKeown on February 09, 2011, 12:17:15 AM
What really impressed me on Saturday was the speed with which Armagh moved the ball at times particularly in the first half. Looked like a new tactic for the year and Id be interested in seeing if it continued particularly into the Summer when it could become more effective

I thought the exact opposite. the time it takes us to carry the ball out of defence and through the middle is very frustrating given the bodies that the opposition are consistently funnelling back while that goes on.

Goats Do Shave

Quote from: PatDaly on February 07, 2011, 06:53:50 PM
Anyone care to comment on Brian Mallon's performance? Why does he continually make the starting 15? What exactly did he contribute to the team on Saturday night?

Brian Mallon is a super footballer! He's most affective in the full forward line, but he's not going to play well if the right ball isn't given to him... much like anyone you put in there! - In the first half v Down the ball was low & in front... he won every ball & Down had to switch men on him. The ball stopped coming in & he was pulled out to half forwards to do the donkey work again.

Apples... Duffy is a line breaker! Antother supreme talent! He starts most of our attacks & is very direct & comfortable on the ball - which is a refreshing change, from those players 'dilly dallying' & playing backwards passing!!

Can get very frustrating reading reviews on here about players giving their all!

Applesisapples

Quote from: Goats Do Shave on February 09, 2011, 11:15:08 AM
Quote from: PatDaly on February 07, 2011, 06:53:50 PM
Anyone care to comment on Brian Mallon's performance? Why does he continually make the starting 15? What exactly did he contribute to the team on Saturday night?

Brian Mallon is a super footballer! He's most affective in the full forward line, but he's not going to play well if the right ball isn't given to him... much like anyone you put in there! - In the first half v Down the ball was low & in front... he won every ball & Down had to switch men on him. The ball stopped coming in & he was pulled out to half forwards to do the donkey work again.

Apples... Duffy is a line breaker! Antother supreme talent! He starts most of our attacks & is very direct & comfortable on the ball - which is a refreshing change, from those players 'dilly dallying' & playing backwards passing!!

Can get very frustrating reading reviews on here about players giving their all!
As I stated before its all about opinion, if you are frustrated then don't use the board, I don't expect everyone to agree with my assessment but there you go....my assessment. You will never hear me question anyone's effort either for club or county, players don't set out to play badly...it just happens.

PatDaly

Quote from: Goats Do Shave on February 09, 2011, 11:15:08 AM
Quote from: PatDaly on February 07, 2011, 06:53:50 PM
Anyone care to comment on Brian Mallon's performance? Why does he continually make the starting 15? What exactly did he contribute to the team on Saturday night?

Brian Mallon is a super footballer! He's most affective in the full forward line, but he's not going to play well if the right ball isn't given to him... much like anyone you put in there! - In the first half v Down the ball was low & in front... he won every ball & Down had to switch men on him. The ball stopped coming in & he was pulled out to half forwards to do the donkey work again.

Can get very frustrating reading reviews on here about players giving their all!

I agree Brian Mallon is a superb footballer, one of the finest ever to wear the Armagh jersey. The Armagh fans jump up out of their seats in eager anticipation everytime he gets the ball. He owns the the corner forward position. Why Paddy O'Rourke hauled him off against the Dubs is a huge mystery to me.

pearseog

Quote from: Applesisapples on February 09, 2011, 01:44:32 PM
Quote from: Goats Do Shave on February 09, 2011, 11:15:08 AM
Quote from: PatDaly on February 07, 2011, 06:53:50 PM
Anyone care to comment on Brian Mallon's performance? Why does he continually make the starting 15? What exactly did he contribute to the team on Saturday night?

Brian Mallon is a super footballer! He's most affective in the full forward line, but he's not going to play well if the right ball isn't given to him... much like anyone you put in there! - In the first half v Down the ball was low & in front... he won every ball & Down had to switch men on him. The ball stopped coming in & he was pulled out to half forwards to do the donkey work again.

Apples... Duffy is a line breaker! Antother supreme talent! He starts most of our attacks & is very direct & comfortable on the ball - which is a refreshing change, from those players 'dilly dallying' & playing backwards passing!!

Can get very frustrating reading reviews on here about players giving their all!
As I stated before its all about opinion, if you are frustrated then don't use the board, I don't expect everyone to agree with my assessment but there you go....my assessment. You will never hear me question anyone's effort either for club or county, players don't set out to play badly...it just happens.

yea but theres posting opinions and then theres being blind. duffy started most of armaghs attacks on saturday night and when the defence got the ball you can see them looking for paul to link defence and attack. you also speak of AK's "vision and playmaking skills". paul is twice the player in that department IMO. you then say that paul is shaky in defence. one of the reasons AK was moved to CHF was because of his poor defensive skills. i can only imagine that that you have tainted opinions of pearse og or just paul himself

David McKeown

Quote from: DuffleKing on February 09, 2011, 10:44:45 AM
Quote from: David McKeown on February 09, 2011, 12:17:15 AM
What really impressed me on Saturday was the speed with which Armagh moved the ball at times particularly in the first half. Looked like a new tactic for the year and Id be interested in seeing if it continued particularly into the Summer when it could become more effective

I thought the exact opposite. the time it takes us to carry the ball out of defence and through the middle is very frustrating given the bodies that the opposition are consistently funnelling back while that goes on.

I thought Armagh shifted the ball between players very quickly and didnt bring it into the tackle like they used to but as it was with a lot of short passes they maybe didnt get the ball to the forwards as much but when it did come in I thought it was more accurate and better linked than last year.  In difficult conditions to play that style  I was encouraged to see that.
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Harold Disgracey

PatDaly you sir are a twat. Change the record.

mackers

Quote from: David McKeown on February 09, 2011, 10:50:12 PM
Quote from: DuffleKing on February 09, 2011, 10:44:45 AM
Quote from: David McKeown on February 09, 2011, 12:17:15 AM
What really impressed me on Saturday was the speed with which Armagh moved the ball at times particularly in the first half. Looked like a new tactic for the year and Id be interested in seeing if it continued particularly into the Summer when it could become more effective

I thought the exact opposite. the time it takes us to carry the ball out of defence and through the middle is very frustrating given the bodies that the opposition are consistently funnelling back while that goes on.

I thought Armagh shifted the ball between players very quickly and didnt bring it into the tackle like they used to but as it was with a lot of short passes they maybe didnt get the ball to the forwards as much but when it did come in I thought it was more accurate and better linked than last year.  In difficult conditions to play that style  I was encouraged to see that.
I'd agree with that. They obviously learnt their lesson from the Dubs match last year, I don't remember seeing an Armagh team turned over so much in the tackle than in Croke Park last summer.
Keep your pecker hard and your powder dry and the world will turn.

Applesisapples

Quote from: pearseog on February 09, 2011, 10:14:11 PM
Quote from: Applesisapples on February 09, 2011, 01:44:32 PM
Quote from: Goats Do Shave on February 09, 2011, 11:15:08 AM
Quote from: PatDaly on February 07, 2011, 06:53:50 PM
Anyone care to comment on Brian Mallon's performance? Why does he continually make the starting 15? What exactly did he contribute to the team on Saturday night?

Brian Mallon is a super footballer! He's most affective in the full forward line, but he's not going to play well if the right ball isn't given to him... much like anyone you put in there! - In the first half v Down the ball was low & in front... he won every ball & Down had to switch men on him. The ball stopped coming in & he was pulled out to half forwards to do the donkey work again.

Apples... Duffy is a line breaker! Antother supreme talent! He starts most of our attacks & is very direct & comfortable on the ball - which is a refreshing change, from those players 'dilly dallying' & playing backwards passing!!

Can get very frustrating reading reviews on here about players giving their all!
As I stated before its all about opinion, if you are frustrated then don't use the board, I don't expect everyone to agree with my assessment but there you go....my assessment. You will never hear me question anyone's effort either for club or county, players don't set out to play badly...it just happens.

yea but theres posting opinions and then theres being blind. duffy started most of armaghs attacks on saturday night and when the defence got the ball you can see them looking for paul to link defence and attack. you also speak of AK's "vision and playmaking skills". paul is twice the player in that department IMO. you then say that paul is shaky in defence. one of the reasons AK was moved to CHF was because of his poor defensive skills. i can only imagine that that you have tainted opinions of pearse og or just paul himself
Not at all, as I said that is my opinion I respect your right to disagree, please respect mine. I didn't even know he was an og's player.

Final Whistle

Quote from: Applesisapples on February 10, 2011, 05:49:12 PM
Quote from: pearseog on February 09, 2011, 10:14:11 PM
Quote from: Applesisapples on February 09, 2011, 01:44:32 PM
Quote from: Goats Do Shave on February 09, 2011, 11:15:08 AM
Quote from: PatDaly on February 07, 2011, 06:53:50 PM
Anyone care to comment on Brian Mallon's performance? Why does he continually make the starting 15? What exactly did he contribute to the team on Saturday night?

Brian Mallon is a super footballer! He's most affective in the full forward line, but he's not going to play well if the right ball isn't given to him... much like anyone you put in there! - In the first half v Down the ball was low & in front... he won every ball & Down had to switch men on him. The ball stopped coming in & he was pulled out to half forwards to do the donkey work again.

Apples... Duffy is a line breaker! Antother supreme talent! He starts most of our attacks & is very direct & comfortable on the ball - which is a refreshing change, from those players 'dilly dallying' & playing backwards passing!!

Can get very frustrating reading reviews on here about players giving their all!
As I stated before its all about opinion, if you are frustrated then don't use the board, I don't expect everyone to agree with my assessment but there you go....my assessment. You will never hear me question anyone's effort either for club or county, players don't set out to play badly...it just happens.

yea but theres posting opinions and then theres being blind. duffy started most of armaghs attacks on saturday night and when the defence got the ball you can see them looking for paul to link defence and attack. you also speak of AK's "vision and playmaking skills". paul is twice the player in that department IMO. you then say that paul is shaky in defence. one of the reasons AK was moved to CHF was because of his poor defensive skills. i can only imagine that that you have tainted opinions of pearse og or just paul himself
Not at all, as I said that is my opinion I respect your right to disagree, please respect mine. I didn't even know he was an og's player.


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bennydorano

Duffy is class goin forward, ropey enough defending. If u read the Dubs forums a lot had Bryan Cullen as their MOTM, for all the stylish forward moves he's neglecting his (supposed) main role - defending. AK did/does get stick for his lack of defensive skills, Duffy is no better in that department imo.

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mackers

Quote from: bennydorano on February 10, 2011, 08:49:49 PM
Duffy is class goin forward, ropey enough defending. If u read the Dubs forums a lot had Bryan Cullen as their MOTM, for all the stylish forward moves he's neglecting his (supposed) main role - defending. AK did/does get stick for his lack of defensive skills, Duffy is no better in that department imo.
And yet some posters have listed them as our wing backs either side of McKeever on our best team for the championship. It would be footballing suicide!! Has to be one or other for me.
Keep your pecker hard and your powder dry and the world will turn.

Orangemac

Tyrone seemed to get away with playing Jordan and Harte at wing back. Mind you they always had someone covering when they went forward.

If it came down to a choice betwen the 2, it would have to be Kernan. Seems back to his best for Cross in terms of distribution and is reliable for left sided frees.


DUBSFORSAM1

Quote from: bennydorano on February 10, 2011, 08:49:49 PM
Duffy is class goin forward, ropey enough defending. If u read the Dubs forums a lot had Bryan Cullen as their MOTM, for all the stylish forward moves he's neglecting his (supposed) main role - defending. AK did/does get stick for his lack of defensive skills, Duffy is no better in that department imo.

Is that the same Cullen who plays wing forward and is therefore supposed to be makign stylish forward moves as first priority?