Derry Club football and Hurling

[oakleaflad]

Does that now mean that the best Glen can hope for is a relegation playoff with the runners up in Div 2?

[TheRealSlimShady]

Does that now mean that the best Glen can hope for is a relegation playoff with the runners up in Div 2?

if the set up remains the same as last year then that is correct. glen will either play greenlough, steesltown or craigbane, with the loser going down and the winner playing the loser of the top 2 from intermediate. the intermediate league has been fairly tight this year so hard to call who will go up, but swa have a few games still left to play and sitting second so you'd imagine they'll be in the top 2!

[oakleaflad]

Does that now mean that the best Glen can hope for is a relegation playoff with the runners up in Div 2?

if the set up remains the same as last year then that is correct. glen will either play greenlough, steesltown or craigbane, with the loser going down and the winner playing the loser of the top 2 from intermediate. the intermediate league has been fairly tight this year so hard to call who will go up, but swa have a few games still left to play and sitting second so you'd imagine they'll be in the top 2!

Was it not the top 4 in div 2 that played off to go up last year? seem to remember Craigbane beating Swatragh and then Steelstown to go up? looking like Glen and Greenlough then for the relegation playoff? or is it also bottom 4 in Div 1? will Greenlough go straight down if bottom? Its got me a little confused to be honest.

[móidín doire]

Does that now mean that the best Glen can hope for is a relegation playoff with the runners up in Div 2?

if the set up remains the same as last year then that is correct. glen will either play greenlough, steesltown or craigbane, with the loser going down and the winner playing the loser of the top 2 from intermediate. the intermediate league has been fairly tight this year so hard to call who will go up, but swa have a few games still left to play and sitting second so you'd imagine they'll be in the top 2!

Was it not the top 4 in div 2 that played off to go up last year? seem to remember Craigbane beating Swatragh and then Steelstown to go up? looking like Glen and Greenlough then for the relegation playoff? or is it also bottom 4 in Div 1? will Greenlough go straight down if bottom? Its got me a little confused to be honest.

Not that complicated. Here's the regulations sent out to our secretary by the CCC at the start of the year. The bit you're interested in is in bold.

2012 Adult Leagues

Division 1
Ballinderry, Banagher, Bellaghy, Ballinascreen, Craigbane, Coleraine, Dungiven, Glen, Glenullin, Greenlough, Kilrea, Lavey, Loup, Magherafelt, Slaughtneil and Steelstown

They shall play in a single round league of 15 games

The team finishing top at the end of the 15 games will qualify for the Division 1 league final. The 2nd and 3rd placed teams will play off and the winner will play in the Division 1 league final

Where 2 or more teams finish level on points, Rule 6.22 (5) (C) TO 2011 will apply to determine the placings.

The bottom 2 finishing teams will play off for the relegation placings, the loser relegated to Division 2 for the 2013 season, the winner meeting the loser of the Division 2 promotion play off to determine their Division 1/Division 2 status for 2013.

Where 2 or more teams finish level on points, Rule 6.22 (5) (C) TO 2011 will apply to determine the placings.

Clubs must submit by e-mail to the Derry Games Administrator the names of 10 players, inclusive of Derry Senior football panellists, who are ineligible to play Reserve league football in 2012.

These named players must be approved by Derry CCC

Where players from the named 10 are coming back from long-term injury the club may apply by e-mail to the Derry Games Administrator for permission to play reserve league football until they return to senior football

Division 2
Ballerin, Ballymaguigan, Castledawson, Claudy, Doire Trasna, Drumsurn, Desertmartin, Faughanvale, Foreglen, Limavady, Lissan, Moneymore, Newbridge, Ogra Colmcille, Slaughtmanus and Swatragh

They shall play in a single round league of 15 games

The team finishing top at the end of the 15 games will qualify for the Division 2 league final. The 2nd and 3rd placed teams will play off and the winner will play in the Division 2 league final

Where 2 or more teams finish level on points, Rule 6.22 (5) (C) TO 2011 will apply to determine the placings.

The bottom 2 finishing teams will play off for the relegation placings, the loser relegated to Division 3 for the 2013 season, the winner meeting the loser of the Division 3 promotion play off to determine their Division 2/Division 3 status for 2013.

Where 2 or more teams finish level on points, Rule 6.22 (5) (C) TO 2012 will apply to determine the placings.

Clubs must submit by e-mail to the Derry Games Administrator the names of 10 players, inclusive of Derry Senior football panellists, who are ineligible to play Reserve league football in 2012.

These named players must be approved by Derry CCC

Where players from the named 10 are coming back from long-term injury the club may apply by e-mail to the Derry Games Administrator for permission to play reserve league football until they return to senior football


Division 3
Ardmore, Bellaghy Thirds, Drum, Doire Colmcille, Glack, Magherafelt Thirds, Magilligan and Sean Dolan's

They shall play a double round lead of 14 games

The top 2 finishing teams will play off for the league title

Where 2 or more teams finish level on points, Rule 6.22 (5) (C) TO 2011 will apply to determine the placings for the league final.

Only Ardmore, Drum, Doire Colmcille, Glack, Magilligan and Sean Dolan's SHALL BE ELIGIBLE FOR PROMOTION TO DIVISION 2

Of these teams the top 2 finishing at the end of the 14 games will qualify for the Division 3 league promotion final to Division 2. The winner of this game will be promoted to Division 2 for the 2013 season, the loser meeting the winner of the Division 2 relegation play off to determine their Division 2/Division 3 status for 2013.

Where 2 or more teams finish level on points, Rule 6.22 (5) (C) TO 2012 will apply to determine the placings.

ALL GAMES SHALL COUNT TOWARDS DECIDING THE DIVISION 3 LEAGUE WINNERS, BUT ONLY THE GAMES BETWEEN Ardmore, Drum, Doire Colmcille, Glack, Magilligan and Sean Dolan's shall determine the Division 3 promotion play off placings

Bellaghy Thirds and Magherafelt Thirds must submit by e-mail to the Derry Games Administrator their Division 3 panel before the commencement of the league
Any player who plays senior or reserve football in 2012 is ineligible to play on a Thirds league team


Reserve Leagues

Football

Clubs must submit by e-mail to the Derry Games Administrator the names of 10 players, inclusive of Derry Senior football panellists, who are ineligible to play Reserve league football in 2012.

Where players from the named 10 are coming back from long-term injury the club may apply by e-mail to the Derry Games Administrator for permission to play reserve league football until they return to senior football

Division 1 and Division 2 Reserve leagues will be a 13 a side single round competition (15 a side may be played with the prior agreement of the competing teams)

The team finishing top after the 15 games shall win the Division 1 & 2 Leagues.

Where 2 or more teams finish level on points, Rule 6.22 (5) (C) TO 2011 will apply to determine the placings.


Other Regulations
1 All games will be subject to Rules 6.42, 6.43 TO 2011

2 Failure by a club to field for a game at adult level, without a reason acceptable to Derry CCC, will be fined 200 euro and may be subject to other penalty under rule.

3 A club failing to fulfil 2 consecutive fixtures, without a reason acceptable to Derry CCC may be dismissed from the league

4 A club withdrawing from the league prior to league completion without a reason acceptable to Derry CCC will be fined 200 euro and forfeit outstanding referee's fees paid at the start of the season. Points for unplayed games will be forfeited to the opposition as per rule TO 6.37 (2011)

5 Derry CCC may, in exceptional circumstances, give sympathetic consideration to a club request for postponement of a game due to a death in the club community. All requests will be subject to validation and, should he spirit of the rule be found to have been abused, the points associated with the fixture will be awarded retrospectively to the opposing club.

6 Clubs seeking postponement of a game for a reason other than 5 must submit such request by e-mail 4 weeks in advance to the Derry Games Administrator, setting out clearly the reason for the request

7 Clubs seeking a change of date or time must submit such request by e-mail 4 weeks in advance to the Derry Games Administrator, setting out clearly the reason for the request

8 Where 2 clubs agree to change the date/time of a league game both MUST submit this request, and their agreement to the change to the Derry Games Administrator and Derry CCC will then determine if the change (s) can be accepted.

9 If a club believes that their pitch is unplayable for any reason they must contact the Games Administrator at least 4 hours before a game to allow for the Referees' Coordinator to arrange for a pitch inspection.

10 All football league games will be played as scheduled, even though Derry may have a game the day before, or the day after the scheduled date.

11 Members of the Derry football panel who take no part in a game that takes place before a scheduled league will be permitted to play a club league game the day after the county game, except within the 13 day championship period.

12 The Derry senior football manager may have to add players to his panel because of injuries or other reasons. These players will be subject to the same restrictions/exemptions as above.

13 No Derry senior football panellist is allowed to play for his club if a league game is scheduled for the day before a county football game

14 All hurling league games will be played as scheduled, even though Derry may have a game the day before, or the day after the scheduled date.

15 Members of the Derry hurling panel who take no part in a game that takes place before a scheduled league will be permitted to play a club league game the day after the county game, except within the 13 day championship period.

16 The Derry senior hurling manager may have to add players to his panel because of injuries or other reasons. These players will be subject to the same restrictions/exemptions as above.

17 No Derry senior hurling panellist is allowed to play for his club if a league game is scheduled for the day before a county football game

18 During the 13 day period before football and hurling championship games no Derry hurler or footballer will be available to his club for hurling and/or football league games, inclusive of players at 12 above

19 No Derry 2012 senior football panellist ( as determined in 11 and 12 above) is eligible to play for his club in any adult District Competition (Larkin Cup, McGlinchey Cup, Graham Cup, Kerlin Cup, O'Hagan Cup, Neil Carlin Cup) at any stage of the 2012 competitions

20 Derry CCC reserve the right to alter any of the above regulations to meet the demands of unforeseen circumstances.

Always possible the CCC could change things, but I assume this will be the way it is.

[Hillbilly]

Rd 15 of the league is off this weekend to get outstanding games played ,no last game before c'ship now for some teams

[Pragmatist]

Let's take a real good look at the elephants in the room. Derry club football IS CURRENTLY NOT of a high standard. No county needs players giving advice to THE MANAGER during the game. The next batch of promising players is on the way. It is NOT WITH US YET. The next manager must agree to and be given a 4 YEAR CONTRACT. Supporters must be patient. Do you disagree?

[theticklemister]

Let's take a real good look at the elephants in the room. Derry club football IS CURRENTLY NOT of a high standard. No county needs players giving advice to THE MANAGER during the game. The next batch of promising players is on the way. It is NOT WITH US YET. The next manager must agree to and be given a 4 YEAR CONTRACT. Supporters must be patient. Do you disagree?

I took in the Cullyhanna and Dromintee game at Crossmaglen in the reply of the 1st round of the cship. Cullyhanna are second in the league and I think Dromintee are mid table.The football was decent to watch and there were no defensive or negative tactics employed, however I would think the average Derry team would beat both teams on view. There is a gulf in Derry football as witnessed in the opening cship weekend but I think the 5/6 teams at the top could rival the pick of any others throughout the country

[braveheart]

Let's take a real good look at the elephants in the room. Derry club football IS CURRENTLY NOT of a high standard. No county needs players giving advice to THE MANAGER during the game. The next batch of promising players is on the way. It is NOT WITH US YET. The next manager must agree to and be given a 4 YEAR CONTRACT. Supporters must be patient. Do you disagree?

Yes. you sound very much like a dictator or dare i say it a referee.

[Wacko]

R15 league games taking place this weekend according to papers not really sure where Hillbilly hetting his info at. Most clubs will get a run out before championship games next weekend. Most ones can't wait for the repeat of the county final next Sunday which has been provisionally set for Bellaghy.

[Hoof Hearted]

R15 league games taking place this weekend accorfing to papers not really sure where Hilbilly hetting his onfo at. Most clubs will get a run out before championship games mext weekend. Most ones can't wait for the repeat of the county final next Sunday in Bellaghy.

whats the full fixture list for cship weekend

[fitzroyalty]

Let's take a real good look at the elephants in the room. Derry club football IS CURRENTLY NOT of a high standard. No county needs players giving advice to THE MANAGER during the game. The next batch of promising players is on the way. It is NOT WITH US YET. The next manager must agree to and be given a 4 YEAR CONTRACT. Supporters must be patient. Do you disagree?

I took in the Cullyhanna and Dromintee game at Crossmaglen in the reply of the 1st round of the cship. Cullyhanna are second in the league and I think Dromintee are mid table.The football was decent to watch and there were no defensive or negative tactics employed, however I would think the average Derry team would beat both teams on view. There is a gulf in Derry football as witnessed in the opening cship weekend but I think the 5/6 teams at the top could rival the pick of any others throughout the country

I actually mind greenlough duffing Cullyhanna in the intermediate ulster a few years back. That said Cullyhanna are now viewed as one of the top sides in Armagh, should have beat Cross two years ago in the SFC, haven't quite reached that level again though. The top teams would be Cross, Pearse Og, Maghery and Cullyhanna in that order. Dromintee on paper are good but come championship always seem to be well off the pace.

My club (bottom of Div1) beat Loup last year in a challenge warm up before their championship semi or quarter can't mind, didn't think they were up to much at all. Other than being dirty of course.

[Keepthefaith93]

Challenge game      half the team where probably drunk, challenge game  lol, good one, keep them coming Fitzy.

[JohnDenver]

R15 league games taking place this weekend according to papers not really sure where Hillbilly hetting his info at. Most clubs will get a run out before championship games next weekend. Most ones can't wait for the repeat of the county final next Sunday which has been provisionally set for Bellaghy.

Are you doubting Hillbilly?    The man is never far wrong!

What makes you think that our CCC would actually have the correct fixtures in the paper?  The website is a shambles for upto-date fixtures too.

[Wingman]

Note
The following Rd 15 games will not be played this weekend, as the unplayed games impact on clubs in the promotion/relegation zone: Limavady v Desertmartin; Claudy v Newbridge;  Swatragh v Moneymore; Drumsurn v Slaughtmanus
This has been agreed with the  Derry CCC chairman

From CCC email.

[Doire93]

Fitzy your blowing about a challenge match against The Loup...would yeh give my head a holiday