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[MW]

Just my opinion. I really don't think that the feebleness (if that is a word) of the IFA challenge can be down to incompetence alone.

Oh SS2, your belief in the limits of the IFA's incompetence is touching but completely misplaced. They are as useless as a marzipan dildo (copyright Malcolm Tucker) and then some. Have you ever heard Raymond Kennedy speak?

I actually don't think their challenge has been feeble. They went to FIFA at least twice to appeal the situation and then took them to the Court of Arbitration for Sport - a very serious step for any national association. In the end the simple fact was that the FIFA rules do seem to permit the current situation (even if IFA officials did make silly statements in the media [mis]quoting the wrong rules)

The IFA appeal to CAS to request FIFA to implement FIFA rules (as they the IFA could only interpret them) was an example of supreme folly and intellectual feebleness. That you don't see this, even after all my painfully pedantic perfectionist explanation of the statutes of eligibility to you 
You shoulda stayed away 

Main Street, old son, your powers of comprehension are seriously failing you tonight.

SS2 wasn't referring to the IFA challenge as feeble as in "intellectual feebleness" - he meant it wasn't pursued with particular vigour. It might have beem ill-concieved but it didn't lack effort, however wrongly-directed.

I have not got your powers of,  shall we say, creative comprehension, nor your certainty that your own interpretation is the one true interpretation  , which you retain despite your previous form, struggling very badly with the basics of FIFA eligibility comprehension 

The IFA challenge was feeble from the bottom to the top, no matter what way you may wish to construe a  "Rajput folly" determination to travel first class on a flight to Zurich, spending a relative fortune on expenses and a legal team, in order to wail and whine about how right they are and everybody else has it wrong.
Feeble at the top  -  no intellectual grasp of the eligibility topic. 
Feeble at the bottom,  as in no foundation to their legal case.
What you could call´total feebleness´.
When "feeble challenge" is used to describe an appeal case, that's what a person like me understands it to mean.
.

Oh dear, MS, you're getting it wrong on two counts now:

1 - I think the IFA's interpretation of FIFA rules was wrong and I've said so over and over again
2- I was quite clearly referring to the effort that the IFA put into their challenge, not the quality of it.

[muppet]

What heinous crimes have the IRFU and FAI committed (incompetence doesn't count).

I'm talking specifically about the IRFU and their notion of equal recognition and representation of the RoI and NI.

Could you explain that a bit more please?

Do they have a policy that they are not adhering to?

No, it's the policy they are adhering to that I have an issue with.

(Sadly rugby league, which was exemplary from what I could see, decided to go down the southern-chauvinist route too recently)

What is this 'southern chauvinist route'?

After an exemplary past using Ireland's Call (and a four-provinces type flag), they decided to jack it all in for the 2008 World Cup and use Amhran na bhFiann instead.

Why did they change it? Was it done procedurally (with some sort of democratic process) or just by decree?

(And wasn't the world cup in 2007 not that it changes the point?)

[AZOffaly]

I think he means the Rugby LEague world cup in 2008. The IRFU officially use the three shamrock and rugby ball logo flag, and Ireland's Call.

The IRL used the four provinces flag (quadrants with the red hand, munster crowns, leinster harp and connacht whatever that weird yoke is).

[Massey-135]

'If you want to discuss politics then why not do that on a nationalist political forum or blog rather than a GAA one where ROI supporters will be predominant? Are you 'ringing the da' about soccer now or posting about it on a forum? Haven't you posted in the Celtic threads?'

I'd post on 'Slugger' fairly regularly. I'm also fairly regular on Munster rugby and the Scottish Football Association sites. Like I say, I'm here for the general discussions, not the sport. I do post on the Celtic thread, as I've been a follower since about 1967. I remember watching the '67 final live on tv. How many on here can say that? Also remember watching the '70 final against Feynoord.

Any other questions before I go to bed?

You must spend a lot of time on message boards. Especially for someone who must be around the 50 mark. I'd say your life must be rather empty?

[Rossfan]

I think he means the Rugby LEague world cup in 2008.

I'd hazard a guess that most of the "Ireland" rugby League team werent aware that Ireland had a National Anthem 

[Myles Na G.]

'If you want to discuss politics then why not do that on a nationalist political forum or blog rather than a GAA one where ROI supporters will be predominant? Are you 'ringing the da' about soccer now or posting about it on a forum? Haven't you posted in the Celtic threads?'

I'd post on 'Slugger' fairly regularly. I'm also fairly regular on Munster rugby and the Scottish Football Association sites. Like I say, I'm here for the general discussions, not the sport. I do post on the Celtic thread, as I've been a follower since about 1967. I remember watching the '67 final live on tv. How many on here can say that? Also remember watching the '70 final against Feynoord.

Any other questions before I go to bed?

You must spend a lot of time on message boards. Especially for someone who must be around the 50 mark. I'd say your life must be rather empty?

Not at all. My cat's a great companion and the meals on wheels people always stand and chat for a while.   

[muppet]

I think he means the Rugby LEague world cup in 2008. The IRFU officially use the three shamrock and rugby ball logo flag, and Ireland's Call.

The IRL used the four provinces flag (quadrants with the red hand, munster crowns, leinster harp and connacht whatever that weird yoke is).

Rugby League ffs.

They could play 'Where's me jumper?' as National Anthem at that for all I care.

[mayogodhelpus@gmail.com]

I think he means the Rugby LEague world cup in 2008. The IRFU officially use the three shamrock and rugby ball logo flag, and Ireland's Call.

The IRL used the four provinces flag (quadrants with the red hand, munster crowns, leinster harp and connacht whatever that weird yoke is).

Feck off its the Regensburg Irish Monastary standard combined with the O'Connors of Connachts standard.

[Main Street]

Just my opinion. I really don't think that the feebleness (if that is a word) of the IFA challenge can be down to incompetence alone.

Oh SS2, your belief in the limits of the IFA's incompetence is touching but completely misplaced. They are as useless as a marzipan dildo (copyright Malcolm Tucker) and then some. Have you ever heard Raymond Kennedy speak?

I actually don't think their challenge has been feeble. They went to FIFA at least twice to appeal the situation and then took them to the Court of Arbitration for Sport - a very serious step for any national association. In the end the simple fact was that the FIFA rules do seem to permit the current situation (even if IFA officials did make silly statements in the media [mis]quoting the wrong rules)

The IFA appeal to CAS to request FIFA to implement FIFA rules (as they the IFA could only interpret them) was an example of supreme folly and intellectual feebleness. That you don't see this, even after all my painfully pedantic perfectionist explanation of the statutes of eligibility to you 
You shoulda stayed away 

Main Street, old son, your powers of comprehension are seriously failing you tonight.

SS2 wasn't referring to the IFA challenge as feeble as in "intellectual feebleness" - he meant it wasn't pursued with particular vigour. It might have beem ill-concieved but it didn't lack effort, however wrongly-directed.

I have not got your powers of,  shall we say, creative comprehension, nor your certainty that your own interpretation is the one true interpretation  , which you retain despite your previous form, struggling very badly with the basics of FIFA eligibility comprehension 

The IFA challenge was feeble from the bottom to the top, no matter what way you may wish to construe a  "Rajput folly" determination to travel first class on a flight to Zurich, spending a relative fortune on expenses and a legal team, in order to wail and whine about how right they are and everybody else has it wrong.
Feeble at the top  -  no intellectual grasp of the eligibility topic. 
Feeble at the bottom,  as in no foundation to their legal case.
What you could call´total feebleness´.
When "feeble challenge" is used to describe an appeal case, that's what a person like me understands it to mean.
.

Oh dear, MS, you're getting it wrong on two counts now:

1 - I think the IFA's interpretation of FIFA rules was wrong and I've said so over and over again
2- I was quite clearly referring to the effort that the IFA put into their challenge, not the quality of it.

Oh dear, MW     what a condescending pr*ick you are   You pompously claimed to have the absolute interpretation of what SS2 referred to when he used the description  "feeble challenge"

Yes, I do  know what you were referring to, there is no need to repeat the folly.  It was a worthless reference.  I am just pointing out emphatically that it was a totally irrelevant and meaningless reference.  And that  SS2's description of "feeble challenge" in relation to the IFA's challenge was entirely accurate and had plenty of context

Mind you, I do appreciate the IFA effort to get away with the amount of stupidity it takes to pay a legal team with badly needed IFA funds, the effort it takes to travel first class to Zurich, stay at the Dolder Grand Hotel and dander around by the Lakes of Zurich on a sunny afternoon. But then again, maybe it was not difficult, most of the OWC are not the brightest are they?

[bennydorano]

'If you want to discuss politics then why not do that on a nationalist political forum or blog rather than a GAA one where ROI supporters will be predominant? Are you 'ringing the da' about soccer now or posting about it on a forum? Haven't you posted in the Celtic threads?'

I'd post on 'Slugger' fairly regularly. I'm also fairly regular on Munster rugby and the Scottish Football Association sites. Like I say, I'm here for the general discussions, not the sport. I do post on the Celtic thread, as I've been a follower since about 1967. I remember watching the '67 final live on tv. How many on here can say that? Also remember watching the '70 final against Feynoord.

Any other questions before I go to bed?

You must spend a lot of time on message boards. Especially for someone who must be around the 50 mark. I'd say your life must be rather empty?

Not at all. My cat's a great companion and the meals on wheels people always stand and chat for a while.   

Are you that hermit that continaully writes to the Irish News letters page? Wilfred Breen is it?

[ziggysego]

'If you want to discuss politics then why not do that on a nationalist political forum or blog rather than a GAA one where ROI supporters will be predominant? Are you 'ringing the da' about soccer now or posting about it on a forum? Haven't you posted in the Celtic threads?'

I'd post on 'Slugger' fairly regularly. I'm also fairly regular on Munster rugby and the Scottish Football Association sites. Like I say, I'm here for the general discussions, not the sport. I do post on the Celtic thread, as I've been a follower since about 1967. I remember watching the '67 final live on tv. How many on here can say that? Also remember watching the '70 final against Feynoord.

Any other questions before I go to bed?

You must spend a lot of time on message boards. Especially for someone who must be around the 50 mark. I'd say your life must be rather empty?

Not at all. My cat's a great companion and the meals on wheels people always stand and chat for a while.   

Are you that hermit that continaully writes to the Irish News letters page? Wilfred Breen is it?

Wilfred's an Omagh man. I think Myles lives up the six county statelet  a bit

[Main Street]

Mylies is currently penning a booklet guide, "How to pass as a nationalist/celtic fan in hostile environs"
subbed
  "for those who are dumb enough to want to and thick enough to think they can get away with it, here is the guideline of the doos and donts".

[bennydorano]

'If you want to discuss politics then why not do that on a nationalist political forum or blog rather than a GAA one where ROI supporters will be predominant? Are you 'ringing the da' about soccer now or posting about it on a forum? Haven't you posted in the Celtic threads?'

I'd post on 'Slugger' fairly regularly. I'm also fairly regular on Munster rugby and the Scottish Football Association sites. Like I say, I'm here for the general discussions, not the sport. I do post on the Celtic thread, as I've been a follower since about 1967. I remember watching the '67 final live on tv. How many on here can say that? Also remember watching the '70 final against Feynoord.

Any other questions before I go to bed?

You must spend a lot of time on message boards. Especially for someone who must be around the 50 mark. I'd say your life must be rather empty?

Not at all. My cat's a great companion and the meals on wheels people always stand and chat for a while.   

Are you that hermit that continaully writes to the Irish News letters page? Wilfred Breen is it?

Wilfred's an Omagh man. I think Myles lives up the six county statelet  a bit

The Cavan one then - McGeever?

[trileacman]

ffs how did this get to 14 pages??

[ziggysego]

ffs how did this get to 14 pages??

Myles.