Harte threatens live TV ban !

[orangeman]

Angry Harte threatens TV boycott

Mickey Harte is raising the stakes in the row over retrospective red cards
Tuesday, 16 February 2010 08:59
Tyrone manager Mickey Harte has revealed that his county may consider banning television cameras from their home National League games, as the row over retrospective red cards intensifies.

Harte yesterday revealed his frustration with the current system which saw three of his players receive bans based on the strength of video replays.


The Tyrone boss claims that such decisions are not being applied across the board because of the lack of television cameras at some grounds, claiming that teams who featured in televised matches are at a disadvantage.


Derry manager Damian Cassidy echoed those complaints after Eoin Bradley was also suspended, but now Harte appears to have upped the stakes.

'It's something we'll have to consider,' Harte said when questioned on the possibility of a TV blackout.

'In fact, our county board have made suggestions that if that's going to be case then we could reserve the right to decide whether our league games are to be televised or not,' he told the Irish Examiner.

'I don't know how many times we've been on (TV) but the bottom line is if our game against Derry had not been televised we would have Martin Penrose, Conor Gormley and Justin McMahon playing against Mayo,' said Harte.

'That's an undisputed fact. We were disadvantaged being on live TV. Two of them weren't red cards. Martin Penrose was a different incident anyway. That's not condoning what any of them did. We just need it to be on a level playing field.'

[Onion Bag]

Why has noone on here ever had a problem with this scrutiny before, Only Mickey Harte brought this up everyone else would have just accepted it as the system. after watching the report on BBC tonight, Penrose and Gormley cant argue, thats the 1st i seen of it,

Mickey Harte is a Profit.

No hes a Yap, i admire the man as a manager and a tactician however, but he never gives up moaning,

University Players not being allowed to play in the Mc Kenna cup

then we have the Aussie Rules and international Rules

the GPA

and now talking about banning TV cameras from Tyrone home games

Give over Mickey

[orangeman]

Why has noone on here ever had a problem with this scrutiny before, Only Mickey Harte brought this up everyone else would have just accepted it as the system. after watching the report on BBC tonight, Penrose and Gormley cant argue, thats the 1st i seen of it,

Mickey Harte is a Profit.

No hes a Yap, i admire the man as a manager and a tactician however, but he never gives up moaning,

University Players not being allowed to play in the Mc Kenna cup

then we have the Aussie Rules and international Rules

the GPA

and now talking about banning TV cameras from Tyrone home games

Give over Mickey

Surely it's a manager's perogative to give his opinion on what he sees as something that is unfair ?

Maybe if other managers suffered in the same way, they'd also speak out ?

Damian Cassidy already has.

[Fear ón Srath Bán]

But the CCCCCCCCCCCCC has said they will review available video evidence and charge people if necessary post the game.

That's all right then, the CCCC said they will review the available video evidence, and how could we ever have any doubts about what they say they will do.

Never mind that there's no transparent process in place, or that due process is an aspiration (and only an aspiration), or that justice isn't only not even seen to be done, but not even done (it would appear). None of that matters sure, does it?

[Zapatista]

No hes a Yap,

Sure what else would we have to yap about if it wasn't for him.

[Tyrone Dreamer]

Why has noone on here ever had a problem with this scrutiny before, Only Mickey Harte brought this up everyone else would have just accepted it as the system. after watching the report on BBC tonight, Penrose and Gormley cant argue, thats the 1st i seen of it,

Mickey Harte is a Profit.

No hes a Yap, i admire the man as a manager and a tactician however, but he never gives up moaning,

University Players not being allowed to play in the Mc Kenna cup

then we have the Aussie Rules and international Rules

the GPA

and now talking about banning TV cameras from Tyrone home games

Give over Mickey

The man's entitled to his opinion and because of his position his opinons are more widely available than others. No matter what anyone says Tyrone are entitled to be annoyed at the selective use of video evidence by the CCC. What exactly has Mickey said about the GPA?

[lawnseed]

the most sickening part of this whole thing is that harte is not worried what his players get up to when the refs back is turned he bemoaning the fact that they are gettin caught on camera. the point is that tv coverage has been something the gaa have been trying to attract why do you think rte get to sponsor the championship for buttons and toyota had to pay over a million... because toyota cant beam pictures into your sitting room. so it follows that the games that do make it to the tv should be of the highest quality ie free of cynical fowls and downright thuggery. i point to the defining example tyrone v dublin or the "battle of omagh" as it became known, the game was only on tnag but because there was a bit of handbags the bbc actually bought the footage from tnag and as we know showed it on every news bulleton for 3 days afterwards then we had the endless condemnation and paisley jnr lookn the police etc etc... if telly coverage makes mickey harte say to his players 'you have to behave or the ccccc will have you' and as a result we get better flowing,cleaner football thats attractive for the right reasons then more telly is needed. think of some of the games people want to remember down v derry (92 ithink) hardly a whistle for 70mins. no point in changing the rules to make the game more attractive when you've got boys rolling round the floor and mouthing off to the ref

[Gabriel_Hurl]

when you've got boys rolling round the floor and mouthing off to the ref

that's not exactly a new phenomenon

[ziggysego]

So should Jerry Flannery not get punished for his wild kick in the rugby because some game somewhere else did not have cameras at it? Does the fact that there were no cameras in one match mean we should ignore the blatant evidence. What if a Tyrone player was caught on camera breaking a guys jaw and he had to suck his food through a straw for 3 months, should we ignore that too? If the evidence is there we should use it. Its a pity it is not there for every match but thats not practical.

1. All 6 Nation games are televised, so it's a moot point.

2. That Tyrone would have committed a GBH, so of course. But shouldn't be used to ban him from the game

[On_the_Couch]

So should Jerry Flannery not get punished for his wild kick in the rugby because some game somewhere else did not have cameras at it? Does the fact that there were no cameras in one match mean we should ignore the blatant evidence. What if a Tyrone player was caught on camera breaking a guys jaw and he had to suck his food through a straw for 3 months, should we ignore that too? If the evidence is there we should use it. Its a pity it is not there for every match but thats not practical.

1. All 6 Nation games are televised, so it's a moot point.

2. That Tyrone would have committed a GBH, so of course. But shouldn't be used to ban him from the game

If only they would bring in a system like in rugby, then it might be considered fair - independent observer responsible for reviewing the game in its entirety and citing those who have transgressed and got away with it, with a reasonably fairly administered review panel.  Also, competing team are also allowed to cite opposing players whom they feel have transgressed, again with all the evidence looked at fairly and independently. 

But that would be seen as bringing foreign influences into the games and not acceptable.

Also, McEnaeney's handling of Tyrone Derry was abysmal - if he's admitting to missing 4 red card offences.  Christ if the "best" referee in the country does this, what hope for the rest of them?  Mind you, given some of his performances last year, its becoming a bit of a habit - particularly the Dublin v Kerry game.  Maybe the crown is starting to slip off his head and falling over his eyes.

[ziggysego]

So should Jerry Flannery not get punished for his wild kick in the rugby because some game somewhere else did not have cameras at it? Does the fact that there were no cameras in one match mean we should ignore the blatant evidence. What if a Tyrone player was caught on camera breaking a guys jaw and he had to suck his food through a straw for 3 months, should we ignore that too? If the evidence is there we should use it. Its a pity it is not there for every match but thats not practical.

1. All 6 Nation games are televised, so it's a moot point.

2. That Tyrone would have committed a GBH, so of course. But shouldn't be used to ban him from the game

If only they would bring in a system like in rugby, then it might be considered fair - independent observer responsible for reviewing the game in its entirety and citing those who have transgressed and got away with it, with a reasonably fairly administered review panel.  Also, competing team are also allowed to cite opposing players whom they feel have transgressed, again with all the evidence looked at fairly and independently. 

But that would be seen as bringing foreign influences into the games and not acceptable.

I would not have a problem with that been brought it, as long as it was brought into all games within a particular competition. Whether it be the National League or the Championship. I would have the problem, which is the case now, for selective games that have television coverage.

[goal and a point]

So should Jerry Flannery not get punished for his wild kick in the rugby because some game somewhere else did not have cameras at it? Does the fact that there were no cameras in one match mean we should ignore the blatant evidence. What if a Tyrone player was caught on camera breaking a guys jaw and he had to suck his food through a straw for 3 months, should we ignore that too? If the evidence is there we should use it. Its a pity it is not there for every match but thats not practical.

1. All 6 Nation games are televised, so it's a moot point.

2. That Tyrone would have committed a GBH, so of course. But shouldn't be used to ban him from the game

If only they would bring in a system like in rugby, then it might be considered fair - independent observer responsible for reviewing the game in its entirety and citing those who have transgressed and got away with it, with a reasonably fairly administered review panel.  Also, competing team are also allowed to cite opposing players whom they feel have transgressed, again with all the evidence looked at fairly and independently. 

But that would be seen as bringing foreign influences into the games and not acceptable.

I would not have a problem with that been brought it, as long as it was brought into all games within a particular competition. Whether it be the National League or the Championship. I would have the problem, which is the case now, for selective games that have television coverage.

in rugby at what level do independent observors come in - magners league ulster v glasgow etc.

[goal and a point]

http://www.hoganstand.com/tyrone/ArticleForm.aspx?ID=124047

Be interesting to know how many incidents they have missed in 2010. anyone know?

[Zapatista]

http://www.hoganstand.com/tyrone/ArticleForm.aspx?ID=124047

Be interesting to know how many incidents they have missed in 2010. anyone know?

I just sent Cooney a link to youtube. That should be problem solved now.

[Any craic]

http://www.vimeo.com/9510562 - Tyrone video from last night, with their PRO talking about the TV story, and the draw for the SFC.