FAI...New Manager is Heimir Hallgrimsson

[JPGJOHNNYG]

Shambles. Is it any wonder the young lads want to play for the North ffs

[Tony Baloney]

More reason to avoid playing Israel.

[AustinPowers]

Israel's Sayed Abu Farhi was sent off for a goal celebration where he appeared to use the corner flag to mimic shooting a gun in his side's Nations League defeat by Austria.


That's what you're up against

Ref probably will. be labelled as antisemitic

[Brendan]

It was anti semitic of the referee to send him off of course

[seafoid]

Israel's Sayed Abu Farhi was sent off for a goal celebration where he appeared to use the corner flag to mimic shooting a gun in his side's Nations League defeat by Austria.


That's what you're up against

Ref probably will. be labelled as antisemitic

Sayed abu would be Palestinian not Jewish so no antisemitism.

[Wildweasel74]

Still confusing religion and Nationality!

[RedHand88]

Israel's Sayed Abu Farhi was sent off for a goal celebration where he appeared to use the corner flag to mimic shooting a gun in his side's Nations League defeat by Austria.


That's what you're up against

Ref probably will. be labelled as antisemitic

Sayed abu would be Palestinian not Jewish so no antisemitism.

Its also a pool cue celebration that he's done a few times before. Who the hell holds a gun like that lol.
Lifting the corner flag is a yellow, silly thing to do when you're already on a yellow.

[JoG2]

We should be sending the u-17s or a select 11 from the Irish 2nd division out to play the Israeli's for both fixtures and the indefinite future.

Typical of the lack of imagination at the FAI that they couldn't think of fudge to barely pacify UEFA whilst still making it clear that the Irish men's team refuse to play Israel whilst the commit genocide and ethnic displacement. Their comments this week about "oh we couldn't do without the money" were particularly disgusting. They're a stain on the Irish nation but that's nothing new.

So the same logic the GAA used about Allianz?

Worst case, and possible, is UEFA ban all Irish teams from international competition for 2 years. That is no Irish teams playing any games. That is LoI clubs out of Europe. Mass redundancies, the development of the game hugely hit. While principles cost, the FAI have a duty of care to the gane too.

But it could be a lot less than that. And with the way the last week or two has went UEFA would be very aware that there's the potential for even more boycotts. That the sentiment around this genocide is a lot stronger than people would have thought. UEFA don't want to be in a position of having to ban Spain cause they've previously banned Ireland.

Do you think the FAI would be going through this over a fine? Of course UEFA have clearly laid out the consequences and the FAI have made their call based on that.

Spain haven't stepped up. Nobody has. This notion that UEFA will frop it because a ban will be unpopular is very naive.

You have no idea what they will do. And I have very little faith in the FAI doing the right thing, so yes I believe they have no idea of what UEFA would do and just want to avoid any risk. They're just too scared or indifference to make the right call on it.

We know what they CAN do...

Are you seriously suggesting the FAI haven't spoken to UEFA?

Scared, definitely. Indifferent, get real.

Not prepared to take the risk then if your unhappy with indifferent. Or unprincipled. Take your pick. Making the wrong decision anyway. Alienating some of your support is never a smart move long term.

As opposed to potentially alienating them all by having to shutter LR for two years?

It's easy to hurl from the ditch, but the FAI have a duty of care to their game, first and foremost.

Nobody is happy with anything here, but it's easy for Gaels to want a rival sport to slit it's own throat

Last line says it all. You're just not happy a few "Gaels" are having a go at the FAI. It's possible to like both GAA and soccer. In fact I'd say the majority of gaa members would be at least passive soccer fans. It could just be a case that some people believe the FAI are totally in the wrong here.

Not quite my point.

Most people opining here that the FAI should man up and take the punishment won't be in any way impacted by the punishment. You don't care about the U15's having no competitive football and how that impacts on development. You aren't going to miss out on Pats in Europe as you won't watch it, let alone go.

A large chunk of it is popping at the FAI on muscle memory and ignoring that it is UEFA creating and exacerbating the issue.

Where are you getting this info from re UEFA sanctions?

" Between 2024 and May of this year, Lithuania, Latvia and Estonia opted out of competitive fixtures when drawn against Belarus in qualifiers. Their punishments were 3-0 defeats and, in one case, a small fine of €5,000. That seems a small price to pay for taking a stand."

My feeling is the players will announce tomorrow that they won't be fulfilling the fixtures 🤞🏻

[weareros]

JoG2 wrote:

"My feeling is the players will announce tomorrow that they won't be fulfilling the fixtures"

Think you may be right there. FAI left them in a terrible situation, so they will make the decision themselves. I suspect manager will be with them on that.

[Milltown Row2]

JoG2 wrote:

"My feeling is the players will announce tomorrow that they won't be fulfilling the fixtures"

Think you may be right there. FAI left them in a terrible situation, so they will make the decision themselves. I suspect manager will be with them on that.

Could have put more effort into tonight's game knowing they'd be free later in the week

[tonto1888]

Israel's Sayed Abu Farhi was sent off for a goal celebration where he appeared to use the corner flag to mimic shooting a gun in his side's Nations League defeat by Austria.


That's what you're up against

Ref probably will. be labelled as antisemitic

Sayed abu would be Palestinian not Jewish so no antisemitism.

Its also a pool cue celebration that he's done a few times before. Who the hell holds a gun like that lol.
Lifting the corner flag is a yellow, silly thing to do when you're already on a yellow.

yeah he will have got the yellow for lifting the flag, not the actual celebration

[tonto1888]

We should be sending the u-17s or a select 11 from the Irish 2nd division out to play the Israeli's for both fixtures and the indefinite future.

Typical of the lack of imagination at the FAI that they couldn't think of fudge to barely pacify UEFA whilst still making it clear that the Irish men's team refuse to play Israel whilst the commit genocide and ethnic displacement. Their comments this week about "oh we couldn't do without the money" were particularly disgusting. They're a stain on the Irish nation but that's nothing new.

So the same logic the GAA used about Allianz?

Worst case, and possible, is UEFA ban all Irish teams from international competition for 2 years. That is no Irish teams playing any games. That is LoI clubs out of Europe. Mass redundancies, the development of the game hugely hit. While principles cost, the FAI have a duty of care to the gane too.

But it could be a lot less than that. And with the way the last week or two has went UEFA would be very aware that there's the potential for even more boycotts. That the sentiment around this genocide is a lot stronger than people would have thought. UEFA don't want to be in a position of having to ban Spain cause they've previously banned Ireland.

Do you think the FAI would be going through this over a fine? Of course UEFA have clearly laid out the consequences and the FAI have made their call based on that.

Spain haven't stepped up. Nobody has. This notion that UEFA will frop it because a ban will be unpopular is very naive.

You have no idea what they will do. And I have very little faith in the FAI doing the right thing, so yes I believe they have no idea of what UEFA would do and just want to avoid any risk. They're just too scared or indifference to make the right call on it.

We know what they CAN do...

Are you seriously suggesting the FAI haven't spoken to UEFA?

Scared, definitely. Indifferent, get real.

Not prepared to take the risk then if your unhappy with indifferent. Or unprincipled. Take your pick. Making the wrong decision anyway. Alienating some of your support is never a smart move long term.

As opposed to potentially alienating them all by having to shutter LR for two years?

It's easy to hurl from the ditch, but the FAI have a duty of care to their game, first and foremost.

Nobody is happy with anything here, but it's easy for Gaels to want a rival sport to slit it's own throat

Last line says it all. You're just not happy a few "Gaels" are having a go at the FAI. It's possible to like both GAA and soccer. In fact I'd say the majority of gaa members would be at least passive soccer fans. It could just be a case that some people believe the FAI are totally in the wrong here.

Not quite my point.

Most people opining here that the FAI should man up and take the punishment won't be in any way impacted by the punishment. You don't care about the U15's having no competitive football and how that impacts on development. You aren't going to miss out on Pats in Europe as you won't watch it, let alone go.

A large chunk of it is popping at the FAI on muscle memory and ignoring that it is UEFA creating and exacerbating the issue.

Where are you getting this info from re UEFA sanctions?

" Between 2024 and May of this year, Lithuania, Latvia and Estonia opted out of competitive fixtures when drawn against Belarus in qualifiers. Their punishments were 3-0 defeats and, in one case, a small fine of €5,000. That seems a small price to pay for taking a stand."

My feeling is the players will announce tomorrow that they won't be fulfilling the fixtures 🤞🏻

we can only hope

[Armagh18]

JoG2 wrote:

"My feeling is the players will announce tomorrow that they won't be fulfilling the fixtures"

Think you may be right there. FAI left them in a terrible situation, so they will make the decision themselves. I suspect manager will be with them on that.

Let's hope so.

They'd likely fecking lose to these c***ts as well ffs.

[Captain Scarlet]

I honestly think they will beat us at this stage...

Funny how the Israel FA wasn't too active on X during the match. A post about the goal and FT result. No mention of the red.

As everyone can clearly see it was a pool cue. You always kneel down playing pool and there's a hell of a kick off the cue as well...

Christ that was a shocking game though.

[SaffronSports]

Seen on another forum, FAI had been told they would lose the hosting rights of the Euros if they pull out. I'd not care to be honest.

Wouldn't be surprised if there's been some talks at government level with US threats to pull business or economic stuff too.

Ultimately, nothing would make me more proud to be Irish than the team not playing that match. Easy to say as an Irish fan living in the north though.