The death penalty. Yes or no?

Started by Puckoon, November 04, 2009, 03:13:09 PM

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Death penalty. Yes or no?

Yes
31 (24.2%)
No
91 (71.1%)
Not sure
6 (4.7%)

Total Members Voted: 128

johnneycool


LeoMc

Quote from: Alco Pup on November 11, 2009, 05:48:53 PM
Any time I hear of a case like Jamie Bulger, it makes me think that the death penalty should be called for, especially when you hear how much of a summer camp that "jail" has become .

But at the same time, if I was sitting on a jury and had the choice to either have a man executed or given a life sentence, I know that I couldn't have them executed.  There is always that small chance of them being innocent...

Can we bring back flogging??  :P

So you would advocate the execution of 12 year olds?

93-DY-SAM

http://www.rte.ie/news/2014/0430/613896-oklahoma-execution/

Just curious if anyone has any sympathy for him?  The only shame to me is that the other sick b*****d didn't meet the same or a worse fate.

deiseach

Quote from: 93-DY-SAM on April 30, 2014, 12:05:29 PM
http://www.rte.ie/news/2014/0430/613896-oklahoma-execution/

Just curious if anyone has any sympathy for him?  The only shame to me is that the other sick b*****d didn't meet the same or a worse fate.

Is there any level of torture you wouldn't tolerate?

God14

Quote from: 93-DY-SAM on April 30, 2014, 12:05:29 PM
http://www.rte.ie/news/2014/0430/613896-oklahoma-execution/

Just curious if anyone has any sympathy for him?  The only shame to me is that the other sick b*****d didn't meet the same or a worse fate.

No sympathy at all. Poetic justice.

give her dixie

I have always been against the death penalty, due to the fact that so many innocent people have gone to their deaths in a horrible inhumane way. Killing someone to teach them that killing someone is wrong, is just wrong.

When the Birmingham 6 were wrongly convicted, the judge wished the death penalty was still in place as he would have had no bother handing it down to the 6 Irish men.
next stop, September 10, for number 4......

From the Bunker

Quote from: deiseach on April 30, 2014, 12:39:25 PM
Quote from: 93-DY-SAM on April 30, 2014, 12:05:29 PM
http://www.rte.ie/news/2014/0430/613896-oklahoma-execution/

Just curious if anyone has any sympathy for him?  The only shame to me is that the other sick b*****d didn't meet the same or a worse fate.

Is there any level of torture you wouldn't tolerate?

Just wondering. With a botched up execution would the medics be trying to save the mans life or finish him off?

Rossfan

Quote from: deiseach on April 30, 2014, 12:39:25 PM
Quote from: 93-DY-SAM on April 30, 2014, 12:05:29 PM
http://www.rte.ie/news/2014/0430/613896-oklahoma-execution/

Just curious if anyone has any sympathy for him?  The only shame to me is that the other sick b*****d didn't meet the same or a worse fate.

Is there any level of torture you wouldn't tolerate?
Is there any level of disgusting behaviour that the Yanks could descend to?
Davy's given us a dream to cling to
We're going to bring home the SAM

give her dixie

Quote from: God14 on April 30, 2014, 12:52:58 PM
Quote from: 93-DY-SAM on April 30, 2014, 12:05:29 PM
http://www.rte.ie/news/2014/0430/613896-oklahoma-execution/

Just curious if anyone has any sympathy for him?  The only shame to me is that the other sick b*****d didn't meet the same or a worse fate.

No sympathy at all. Poetic justice.

So, using that logic, you would have had no problem with hundreds of Irish men been executed for their convictions of murder down the years? Would that have been poetic justice?
next stop, September 10, for number 4......

From the Bunker

Did you know that in order to Keep Prisons going they need to reach Quotas. In other words prisons in the USA are private for profit companies funded by the state. Prison Quotas have to be met to make profit. So its a case of pack them in they are worth money!

http://www.usatoday.com/story/opinion/2014/03/18/private-prisons-holder-minorities-inmates-column/6580077/

give her dixie

Quote from: From the Bunker on April 30, 2014, 01:01:28 PM
Quote from: deiseach on April 30, 2014, 12:39:25 PM
Quote from: 93-DY-SAM on April 30, 2014, 12:05:29 PM
http://www.rte.ie/news/2014/0430/613896-oklahoma-execution/

Just curious if anyone has any sympathy for him?  The only shame to me is that the other sick b*****d didn't meet the same or a worse fate.

Is there any level of torture you wouldn't tolerate?

Just wondering. With a botched up execution would the medics be trying to save the mans life or finish him off?

They went for the kill even though it had gone wrong. Shortly after the 1st injection went wrong, Clayton Lockett started having a siezure. Then, out of the kindness of their heart, they pulled the curtain so the spectators there to witness murder didn't have to witness any more suffering. The authorities then administered the remaining 2 lethal injections.

Warner's lawyer Madeline Cohen had argued against the new injection combination.

She said the "experimental new drug protocol, including a paralytic" would make "it impossible to know whether the executions will comport with the Eighth Amendment's ban on cruel and unusual suffering".

"Despite repeated requests by counsel, the state has refused, again and again, to provide information about the source, purity, testing and efficacy of the drugs to be used.

"It's not even known whether the drugs were purchased legally."
next stop, September 10, for number 4......

God14

Quote from: give her dixie on April 30, 2014, 01:06:26 PM
Quote from: God14 on April 30, 2014, 12:52:58 PM
Quote from: 93-DY-SAM on April 30, 2014, 12:05:29 PM
http://www.rte.ie/news/2014/0430/613896-oklahoma-execution/

Just curious if anyone has any sympathy for him?  The only shame to me is that the other sick b*****d didn't meet the same or a worse fate.

No sympathy at all. Poetic justice.

So, using that logic, you would have had no problem with hundreds of Irish men been executed for their convictions of murder down the years? Would that have been poetic justice?

Dixie, whats your irish nationalism mindset got to do with a 19year old innocent female brutally beaten, held captive, raped & buried alive. Her parents released the below statement where they are thankful that the killer rapist has been executed. That's good enough for me. 

THE STATEMENT OF SUSIE AND STEVE NEIMAN

God blessed us with our precious daughter, Stephanie for 19 years. Stephanie loved children.

She worked in Vacation Bible School and always helped with our Church nativity scenes. She was the joy of our life. We are thankful this day has finally arrived and justice will finally be served.

Susie and Steve Neiman, 4-29-14

93-DY-SAM

When you get into a debate like this people automatically wheel out the arguments about what if this person or that one had the death penalty applied.  Life isn't that black and white and each case is unique and has it's own specific set of circumstances.  I wouldn't advocate the death penalty in most cases where it is currently applied however when it comes to crimes like that committed by a sc**bag like Charles Warner I think the death penalty is fully deserved if it's proven beyond any doubt that they committed that crime.  What he did to an 11 month old child is utterly sickening. If you can stomach it imagine being that 11 month child for a split second and then ask yourself why should someone who can do that to a child deserve the right to live?

deiseach

Quote from: Rossfan on April 30, 2014, 01:03:34 PM
Quote from: deiseach on April 30, 2014, 12:39:25 PM
Quote from: 93-DY-SAM on April 30, 2014, 12:05:29 PM
http://www.rte.ie/news/2014/0430/613896-oklahoma-execution/

Just curious if anyone has any sympathy for him?  The only shame to me is that the other sick b*****d didn't meet the same or a worse fate.

Is there any level of torture you wouldn't tolerate?
Is there any level of disgusting behaviour that the Yanks could descend to?

Well, 'the Yanks' seem to be showing a lot of scruples about what happened. Which is more than can be said for some of the posters here.

deiseach

Quote from: 93-DY-SAM on April 30, 2014, 01:31:50 PM
When you get into a debate like this people automatically wheel out the arguments about what if this person or that one had the death penalty applied.  Life isn't that black and white and each case is unique and has it's own specific set of circumstances.  I wouldn't advocate the death penalty in most cases where it is currently applied however when it comes to crimes like that committed by a sc**bag like Charles Warner I think the death penalty is fully deserved if it's proven beyond any doubt that they committed that crime.  What he did to an 11 month old child is utterly sickening. If you can stomach it imagine being that 11 month child for a split second and then ask yourself why should someone who can do that to a child deserve the right to live?

Is there any level of torture punishment you wouldn't tolerate?