Antrim Hurling

[theskull1]

We should be very proud the strong culture we have here ...... i.e. the blame culture 

Why not come straight out and say it. If the lad didn't recover from his injury, it wouldn't have been the referees fault.

I'm embarrassed reading this p!sh to be honest. 

[ManInBlackandGreen]

They joke about refs and specsavers, did you read the post FFS, OE immediately waved and indicated to the Rossa line to attend the cub, their  lack of action is not his responsibility.  Again I was there and under rule he did everthing by the book so No on this occasion dealing with this specific incident there was no mistakes, unlike yours in this occasion coming on and spouting about a game that you have been told of 3rd hand. And yes all Refs make mistakes in every game as do players as do managers and supporters. ...

[btdtgtt]

MIBAG get a grip ur posts are hilariously partisan.
Clear ur pushing ur vested interested. 
One protests 2 much and all that. 

[Sham Man]

MIBAG get a grip ur posts are hilariously partisan.
Clear ur pushing ur vested interested. 
One protests 2 much and all that. 

Sure we all have our own vested interests fur fux sake, whats new?  Are we all not partisan, are you not partisan, am I not partisan, catch a grip. A young lad got badly hurt, was that the Refs fault?  We are all culpable, even his own team mentors. Now lets keep some balance here and keep thing sin perspective, the good thing is young Shannon is on the mend and no one died.  He'll be fit and well to play another day. End of - Fin.

[btdtgtt]

I am baffled as to why anyone would blame the referee on the lad gettin injured?
I certainly didn't.
Read the posts - I said if he denied access to the pitch to medics then he was wrong to do so.
I also said it seemed the rossa sideline was out of order.
The clamour to claim this as ref bashing is curious.
Enough already. 

[Sham Man]

I am baffled as to why anyone would blame the referee on the lad gettin injured?
I certainly didn't.
Read the posts - I said if he denied access to the pitch to medics then he was wrong to do so.
I also said it seemed the rossa sideline was out of order.
The clamour to claim this as ref bashing is curious.
Enough already.

You want the lend of a spade or is the hole big enough yet?? 

[btdtgtt]

I'm good thanks Sham - every post is as it is.
Haven't heard a word to the contrary on this board or anywhere else.

[Na Glinntí Glasa]

my end of season review.

from our own teams view it was disappointing. the style change of hurling that has been implimented has caused a few teething problems and we lost games we shouldnt have. injuries played their part and lost players during the season we could ill afford to lose. with the same management in place for next season and the team comfortable with their approach it should show improvement, i hope.

under age wise we are looking good. the U8-10's are a good bunch, the 12's have some good talent. the U14's were unreal. we lost 1 game all season and that was the All Ireland Feile final sadly. exciting talent there! the U16's beat all bar that brilliant St Johns team and the minors are steadily improving.it bodes well for the clubs future.

outside of ourselves i thought this year was a very poor championship for hurling. it was as dull as ive seen in a long time. were cushendall the best of a poor bunch? probably when you seen their showing in Ulster. Lgiel looked glad of the break, ballycastle were, well just ballycastle and promised much but never showed. st johns got into a complete mess in camp and never looked like the team from the start of the season.

a bright spark is Cloney coming in Div 1 hurling. it will be interesting to see how they cope at Div in both hurling and football in 2015 but it should be good to play them for the first time at senior level.

hopes for 2015?

ditch the current league format.
a better championship
antrim to fair better in the NHL

[Na Glinntí Glasa]

Just seen this. one of the motions for the country convention

Motion 3
That the Senior and Senior reserve hurling leagues be a 2 way league in 2015
Ruairi Og

hilarious. they wanted the set up we had this year and were the first to not stick to it by cancelling games due to not having their county players!

[Megaman]

Dont know the matches your talking about DR, but of course it something yous have never done before, particularly back when yous had 10+ players unavailable between Senior, U21 & Minors.

As for the motion, did C'dall propose the current league last year (genuine question-cant mind)

If they did are people / clubs not allowed to change their mind if things dont work out.

Of all the clubs who thought last years league was crap how many of them have put in a motion to change it?

As for this years championship, it was a very poor one, it was one we didnt expect to win in the slightest but will gladly take it. Apart from the Loughiel game we where poor in every match but IMHO we never looked like losing any of them.

[NAG1]

10 team 12 team 8 team 4 team league it will not matter until the teams take the league with some seriousness.

Some clubs have to be commended and will play their games county men or not some just seem to want to make life awkward.

How hard is it to sit down with the planner at the start of the year, the competitions are fixed every year. Plan the county season with the county manager, then plan the club season with the clubs.

Have an agreement in place with said clubs that Senior games go ahead on the selected dates, no exceptions for county training (season already agreed with county management team) no exceptions for u21/minors/ schools games. Any question on pitch inspections are down to the referee on the day of the game.

In the event of a club function/ wedding (not stag) the club in question can contact the other club directly for a re-fixture to suit both clubs within a week of the original, if agreement cant be reached then the game goes ahead.

There is only one exception that should be a death within the team/ club. That is it, other wise games are expected to be played. First team to flaunt the agreed upon rules for the league forfeits their place in that years championship. If a club signs up at the start of the year to stick by those rules then there can be no one else to blame other than the club itself if they don't stand over them.

It is either this or we forget about playing the league and just go straight to championship in August.

[Na Glinntí Glasa]

Dont know the matches your talking about DR, but of course it something yous have never done before, particularly back when yous had 10+ players unavailable between Senior, U21 & Minors.

As for the motion, did C'dall propose the current league last year (genuine question-cant mind)

If they did are people / clubs not allowed to change their mind if things dont work out.

Of all the clubs who thought last years league was crap how many of them have put in a motion to change it?

As for this years championship, it was a very poor one, it was one we didnt expect to win in the slightest but will gladly take it. Apart from the Loughiel game we where poor in every match but IMHO we never looked like losing any of them.

yeah they proposed the current format.

the idea was that the county men would be away with Antrim and the clubs could continue to play games without the county lads.

we did that. we didn't have shorty for quite a few games during the season whereas some clubs decided they couldn't do without theirs and called games off. also we played ballycran away with a squad of 19 having to cancel the reserve game and got hammered. we didn't cancel the match even though other teams would have.

that league set up was total nonsense anyway. all our away games at the first point was cushendall, loughgiel, st johns, ballycastle, portaferry. the clubs need to make money with the gates and had we not got into the top half of the league we wouldnt of had any of those bigger gates. makes no sense at all.

[Two Hands FFS]

Dont know the matches your talking about DR, but of course it something yous have never done before, particularly back when yous had 10+ players unavailable between Senior, U21 & Minors.

As for the motion, did C'dall propose the current league last year (genuine question-cant mind)

If they did are people / clubs not allowed to change their mind if things dont work out.

Of all the clubs who thought last years league was crap how many of them have put in a motion to change it?

As for this years championship, it was a very poor one, it was one we didnt expect to win in the slightest but will gladly take it. Apart from the Loughiel game we where poor in every match but IMHO we never looked like losing any of them.

yeah they proposed the current format.

the idea was that the county men would be away with Antrim and the clubs could continue to play games without the county lads.

we did that. we didn't have shorty for quite a few games during the season whereas some clubs decided they couldn't do without theirs and called games off. also we played ballycran away with a squad of 19 having to cancel the reserve game and got hammered. we didn't cancel the match even though other teams would have.

that league set up was total nonsense anyway. all our away games at the first point was cushendall, loughgiel, st johns, ballycastle, portaferry. the clubs need to make money with the gates and had we not got into the top half of the league we wouldnt of had any of those bigger gates. makes no sense at all.

The 8 team league was in place a few years ago. It was changed to a two way 10 team league by a Committee formed by the county (think Jim Nelson was head of this committee) to look at Hurling in Antrim.
C'Dall opposed this 10 team league. The current format was proposed as C'Dall knew they were never gonna be able to a complete 18 matches due to the round robin games Antrim would play in. There was no suggestion in the proposal that this would be without county players. It was only proposed as a stop gap with a possible view to returning to an 8 team league

You criticised C'Dall for not playing matches without county players. If they did they would probably struggle to get in the top 5.

[Na Glinntí Glasa]

Dont know the matches your talking about DR, but of course it something yous have never done before, particularly back when yous had 10+ players unavailable between Senior, U21 & Minors.

As for the motion, did C'dall propose the current league last year (genuine question-cant mind)

If they did are people / clubs not allowed to change their mind if things dont work out.

Of all the clubs who thought last years league was crap how many of them have put in a motion to change it?

As for this years championship, it was a very poor one, it was one we didnt expect to win in the slightest but will gladly take it. Apart from the Loughiel game we where poor in every match but IMHO we never looked like losing any of them.

yeah they proposed the current format.

the idea was that the county men would be away with Antrim and the clubs could continue to play games without the county lads.

we did that. we didn't have shorty for quite a few games during the season whereas some clubs decided they couldn't do without theirs and called games off. also we played ballycran away with a squad of 19 having to cancel the reserve game and got hammered. we didn't cancel the match even though other teams would have.

that league set up was total nonsense anyway. all our away games at the first point was cushendall, loughgiel, st johns, ballycastle, portaferry. the clubs need to make money with the gates and had we not got into the top half of the league we wouldnt of had any of those bigger gates. makes no sense at all.

The 8 team league was in place a few years ago. It was changed to a two way 10 team league by a Committee formed by the county (think Jim Nelson was head of this committee) to look at Hurling in Antrim.
C'Dall opposed this 10 team league. The current format was proposed as C'Dall knew they were never gonna be able to a complete 18 matches due to the round robin games Antrim would play in. There was no suggestion in the proposal that this would be without county players. It was only proposed as a stop gap with a possible view to returning to an 8 team league

You criticised C'Dall for not playing matches without county players. If they did they would probably struggle to get in the top 5.

Like we did. only for beating sarsfields at home and st johns losing one of their last 2 games before the split we would of been in the bottom half.

2 way league, 8 or 10 teams. simple. games must be played regardless of what your county players are doing. each club has more players in the panel over different years which means not one team suffers each year. at one stage we had 9 players on the panel yet still remained sucessfull at club level.

[Two Hands FFS]

Dont know the matches your talking about DR, but of course it something yous have never done before, particularly back when yous had 10+ players unavailable between Senior, U21 & Minors.

As for the motion, did C'dall propose the current league last year (genuine question-cant mind)

If they did are people / clubs not allowed to change their mind if things dont work out.

Of all the clubs who thought last years league was crap how many of them have put in a motion to change it?

As for this years championship, it was a very poor one, it was one we didnt expect to win in the slightest but will gladly take it. Apart from the Loughiel game we where poor in every match but IMHO we never looked like losing any of them.

yeah they proposed the current format.

the idea was that the county men would be away with Antrim and the clubs could continue to play games without the county lads.

we did that. we didn't have shorty for quite a few games during the season whereas some clubs decided they couldn't do without theirs and called games off. also we played ballycran away with a squad of 19 having to cancel the reserve game and got hammered. we didn't cancel the match even though other teams would have.

that league set up was total nonsense anyway. all our away games at the first point was cushendall, loughgiel, st johns, ballycastle, portaferry. the clubs need to make money with the gates and had we not got into the top half of the league we wouldnt of had any of those bigger gates. makes no sense at all.

The 8 team league was in place a few years ago. It was changed to a two way 10 team league by a Committee formed by the county (think Jim Nelson was head of this committee) to look at Hurling in Antrim.
C'Dall opposed this 10 team league. The current format was proposed as C'Dall knew they were never gonna be able to a complete 18 matches due to the round robin games Antrim would play in. There was no suggestion in the proposal that this would be without county players. It was only proposed as a stop gap with a possible view to returning to an 8 team league

You criticised C'Dall for not playing matches without county players. If they did they would probably struggle to get in the top 5.

Like we did. only for beating sarsfields at home and st johns losing one of their last 2 games before the split we would of been in the bottom half.

2 way league, 8 or 10 teams. simple. games must be played regardless of what your county players are doing. each club has more players in the panel over different years which means not one team suffers each year. at one stage we had 9 players on the panel yet still remained sucessfull at club level.

You also stated clubs depend on gates to survive, if clubs don't have county players for matches, people won't go to matches.