The Many Faces of US Politics...

[Tyrones own]

Now I understand that to a large extent this is very true and lends itself well to the agenda being pushed here
but I wonder was she as beaten up over it in '05/'06 when she was drawing in a 300+K salary
( tripled 2 months after hubby got him self elected to the senate ) while serving on the board of the University of Chicago medical center in a
position that didn't exist before she got there and has not been filled since she left in '07 True Chicago style Cronyism or what?
they even payed her a salary of 67k for the year after she left, wonder how she factored in the down trodden in accepting that

A farrago of nonsense

http://www.factcheck.org/2009/05/michelle-obamas-salary/

Is this link supposed to make me look bad or something....Thanks for posting it! I hope the rest of you do take the time to read it
as it does actually go into detail of how self serving and hypocritical they are... no mention of the busing of poor people out of any of ye though 

[whiskeysteve]

Now I understand that to a large extent this is very true and lends itself well to the agenda being pushed here
but I wonder was she as beaten up over it in '05/'06 when she was drawing in a 300+K salary
( tripled 2 months after hubby got him self elected to the senate ) while serving on the board of the University of Chicago medical center in a
position that didn't exist before she got there and has not been filled since she left in '07 True Chicago style Cronyism or what?
they even payed her a salary of 67k for the year after she left, wonder how she factored in the down trodden in accepting that

A farrago of nonsense

http://www.factcheck.org/2009/05/michelle-obamas-salary/

Is this link supposed to make me look bad or something....Thanks for posting it! I hope the rest of you do take the time to read it
as it does actually go into detail of how self serving and hypocritical they are... no mention of the busing of poor people out of any of ye though 

and politicians on big salaries before and after their white house administrations is remarkable how? The powers that be in the states are nearly always filthy rich.

Somehow, i dont think you would have been on here lambasting cindy mccain for earning 6million dollars in 2006 had her hubby got the white house.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/24796185/

I think I could stomach a princeton and harvard law school graduate earning 300+K, and in a position where she is looking after a hospital.

Lets not forget the sources of the fortunes of the notorious 'Tycoons Club' of the previous administration. The Obamas are positively squeaky clean compared to some of that shower of murderously greedy dangermen

[PadraicHenryPearse]

"Play the ball not the (wo)man" i like that saying too

PHP

[heganboy]

no mention of the busing of poor people out of any of ye though

to which poor people are you referring?

[Tyrones own]

no mention of the busing of poor people out of any of ye though

to which poor people are you referring?

These poor people...you know, the ones that she was tearing up over on Friday !

From the Chicago Sun-Times, published in 2008:

    Chicago Sun-Times: U. of C. shunning poor patients?
    HOSPITAL DISPUTE | Obama's wife, 3 aides tied to plan to free up space
    By Tim Novak and Chris Fusco
    August 23, 2008

    Sen. Barack Obama's wife and three close advisers have been involved with a program at the University of Chicago Medical Center that steers patients who don't have private insurance — primarily poor, black people — to other health care facilities.

    Michelle Obama — currently on unpaid leave from her $317,000-a-year job as a vice president of the prestigious hospital — helped create the program, which aims to find neighborhood doctors for low-income people who were flooding the emergency room for basic treatment. Hospital officials say such patients hinder their ability to focus on more critically ill patients in need of specialized care, such as cancer treatment and organ transplants.

    Obama's top political strategist, David Axelrod, co-owns the firm, ASK Public Strategies, that was hired by the hospital last year to sell the program — called the Urban Health Initiative — to the community as a better alternative for poor patients. Obama's wife and Valerie Jarrett, an Obama friend and adviser who chairs the medical center's board, backed the Axelrod firm's hiring, hospital officials said.

    Another Obama adviser and close friend, Dr. Eric Whitaker, took over the Urban Health Initiative when he was hired at U. of C. in October 2007. Whitaker previously had been director of the Illinois Department of Public Health. Obama has said he recommended Whitaker for the state job, giving his name to Tony Rezko, who helped Gov. Blagojevich assemble his Cabinet. Rezko, a former fund-raiser for Obama and Blagojevich, was convicted in June on federal corruption charges tied to state deals.

    Medical center officials and Obama's presidential campaign staff say the Urban Health Initiative — along with a three-year-old companion program called the South Side Health Collaborative — will dramatically improve health care for thousands of South Side residents. They say that, rather than having to wait hours at U. of C.'s emergency room, those patients get seen sooner and at less expense at neighborhood clinics and other hospitals. U. of C. even offers them a ride on a shuttle bus to other centers and sometimes provides the doctors at those facilities.

    "Senator Obama sees community health centers as a vital part of efforts to invest in prevention and reduce costs," said Ben LaBolt, an Obama spokesman.

    But the Urban Health Initiative has critics, including South Side residents and medical professionals.

    "I've heard complaints from a handful of constituents, but I've also had calls from people in the health care profession complaining," said Ald. Toni Preckwinkle, whose 4th Ward is just north of the hospital. "The medical professionals who have come to me are accusing the university of dumping patients on its neighboring institutions. ... Whether it's being implemented in the way that's in the best interest of the patient, I can't tell you."

    Sen. John McCain, Obama's Republican opponent, criticized the Democratic presidential hopeful Friday for having pledged on the campaign trail to expand health care for Americans at the same time his top political strategist "was running a campaign to cut coverage for the poor."

    Axelrod, whose firm stopped working on the project in October, responded that he was concerned that presidential politics was distorting the university's efforts to improve health care for poor people and to lower costs.

[J70]

Finding neighbourhood doctors to care for those without insurance at a lower cost instead of having them wait hours and hours in casualty at a major hospital. Not to get into a long drawn out debate, but this is sinister because...?

[muppet]

The Chicago Sun-Times is owned by Rupert Murdoch. 

[J70]

I've waited for treatment in an emergency room in NYC for more than twelves hours each time on two different occasions within the past two years. Speaking for myself, had there been a minibus to run me a few minutes over to another doctor or clinic I gladly would have taken it, especially if it was cheaper and I wasn't going to be treated by exhausted residents or interns.

Besides, hasn't one of the complaints about the US medical system, across the political board, been the sheer number of people who go to casualty for trivial or non-emergency ailments that should be taken care of by a GP?

[Tyrones own]

Well besides the fact that it's a "not for profit" Medical center that enjoys the frills and sparkles not to mention the federal, state and city grants that goes with such a title...owing to this they are mandated and have a duty to take care of the less fortunate amongst us, not sure how anyone could look at this and not admit and see it for what it is...but hey don't take my word for it!
http://www.acep.org/pressroom.aspx?id=44294

I've waited for treatment in an emergency room in NYC for more than twelves hours each time on two different occasions within the past two years.

Make an appointment like the rest of us..that way you wouldn't have to stand in line with the Illegals

Besides, hasn't one of the complaints about the US medical system, across the political board, been the sheer number of people who go to casualty for trivial or non-emergency ailments that should be taken care of by a GP?

Yes it has..so why aren't we deporting the supposed 17 million illegals to free up the ER's....oh that's right cause they vote Democrat

[J70]

Well besides the fact that it's a "not for profit" Medical center that enjoys the frills and sparkles not to mention the federal, state and city grants that goes with such a title...owing to this they are mandated and have a duty to take care of the less fortunate amongst us, not sure how anyone could look at this and not admit and see it for what it is...but hey don't take my word for it!
http://www.acep.org/pressroom.aspx?id=44294

That is pretty damning.

I've waited for treatment in an emergency room in NYC for more than twelves hours each time on two different occasions within the past two years.

Make an appointment like the rest of us..that way you wouldn't have to stand in line with the Illegals

I'm here five years (insured for two) and haven't got around to finding a GP yet! On the to do list! Have medical facilities at work now though, so I should be all right except for emergencies.

Besides, hasn't one of the complaints about the US medical system, across the political board, been the sheer number of people who go to casualty for trivial or non-emergency ailments that should be taken care of by a GP?

Yes it has..so why aren't we deporting the supposed 17 million illegals to free up the ER's....oh that's right cause they vote Democrat

As if the Republicans want to get into the actual ordeal of trying to deport 17 million people, including all that cheap labour! It is a nice cause to rally the "values" wing of the party though, even if the rhetoric does help Hispanics into the Democratic fold.

[Tyrones own]

As if the Republicans want to get into the actual ordeal of trying to deport 17 million people, including all that cheap labour! It is a nice cause to rally the "values" wing of the party though, even if the rhetoric does help Hispanics into the Democratic fold.

Exactly, I completely agree and that's why I'm going to continue to beat this drum til we can all agree... that even though most here
fell for and believed the hype this time last year that Obama could walk on water....he can't and is no fecking better than all that came before him
Transparency and change me hole!

That is pretty damning.

I hope then you'll understand my disdain for the crocodile tears on display...like she gives a fcuk
And we're supposed to trust them with leading an overhaul of our health care system.... for the poor

[PadraicHenryPearse]

what is their reason for overhauling the healthcare system?

Who are these people that thought Obama could walk on water?

[deiseach]

Is this link supposed to make me look bad or something....Thanks for posting it! I hope the rest of you do take the time to read it
as it does actually go into detail of how self serving and hypocritical they are... no mention of the busing of poor people out of any of ye though 

It does nothing of the sort. She got the job long before Barack Obama was anybody, she worked the job full-time, amd the 67k is explained as is the fact that the job hasn't been filled. I suppose if you come to the story with the point of view that everything the Obamas have ever achieved is down to cronyisim then you'll see what you want to see.

[Tyrones own]

She got the job long before Barack Obama was anybody,

Really and just how far back in your opinion would we have to go back to find Obama a nobody
Are you familiar with the name Valerie Jarrett? the then protegee and deputy chief of staff of the now very corrupt Mayor of Chicago
Richard Daley
Back in 1991 Jarrett tried to get Michelle to leave her position at a prominent law firm to come into the political scene
but in her own words, she rejected the offer until Jarrett would meet with her then Fiance Barrack Obama for a 2 hour grilling with the main
point being and I quote " My Fiance wants to know who is going to be looking out for me and making sure that I thrive"
He certainly wasn't a nobody to take on Chicago's elite as far back as '91!

amd the 67k is explained as is the fact that the job hasn't been filled

Does the fact that the position didn't exist before she got there and hasn't been filled since she left not at least raise an eye brow with you at all
to the fact that it's simply another example of Chicago politics being rotten to the core with cronyism!
Sure look no further than who he's surrounded himself with in the White House....pay back is a bitch as they say for all the favours over the years.

I suppose if you come to the story with the point of view that everything the Obamas have ever achieved is down to cronyisim then you'll see what you want to see.

The cold hard facts are out there for all to see and read...should we choose to look for them that is

[J70]

what is their reason for overhauling the healthcare system?

Because costs are out of control, there are large numbers of uninsured, it is the leading cause of bankruptcy in the states and because if the insurance companies decide you have a pre-existing condition, you're fucked.

Who are these people that thought Obama could walk on water?

Not sure, but "educating" them is allowing TO to manage his obsession in a benign way, so what's the harm?!