The Many Faces of US Politics...

[J70]

Joe blowing by my expectations of him being a disaster and heading in the direction of the worst ever .

So what SHOULD he be doing with respect to the Ukraine Gmac?

What moves would you find satisfactory?

I'm assuming you mean a more severe response, and not the "I like the taste of Putin's dick" nonsense Trump put out?

china to take Taiwan next
Russia on the move in Europe
Afghanistan now facing famine
Iran will have nuclear weapons shortly
He's a disaster at home and world wide , weak and feeble .
Joe is more worried about Ukrainian border than his own southern border.
2014/2022 both have what in common?
The year was 22
the sky was full of lead
Putin was heading to Kiev
and joe was heading to bed !        @7pm

So tell us Gmac.

If your hero Trump was still in charge (or any Republican for that matter), what would be different about any of those issues you've listed?

trump was happy to let what happened outside of America happen and wasn't going to intervene unless it had consequences or there were threats to  the US , he didn't want to get US soldiers killed in anymore foreign conflicts which he pretty much managed to do , Joe announced the US is back on the world stage and the results are there to be viewed .Trump didn't want to pay nato to protect Europe from Putin while they got 40% gas and 27% oil from Russia , only mugs would want to do that .
Has admiral vindman gone back to Ukraine to defend the homeland he so passionately talked about I wonder 🤔

Nothing you've said there has any relevance whatsoever to what is happening or how Trump would have prevented it.

[whitey]

LOL whitey.

Why the hell would Putin not try this with Trump in power?

The same Trump who never missed ANY opportunity to suck up to him and defer to him, even at the expense of publicly selling out his own appointees and intelligence agencies?

And with Trump and the right wing media cheering him on from the sidelines as we speak.

So why didn't he then?  He had 4 years to do it

[Gmac]

LOL whitey.

Why the hell would Putin not try this with Trump in power?

The same Trump who never missed ANY opportunity to suck up to him and defer to him, even at the expense of publicly selling out his own appointees and intelligence agencies?

And with Trump and the right wing media cheering him on from the sidelines as we speak.

So why didn't he then?  He had 4 years to do it

exactly

[J70]

LOL whitey.

Why the hell would Putin not try this with Trump in power?

The same Trump who never missed ANY opportunity to suck up to him and defer to him, even at the expense of publicly selling out his own appointees and intelligence agencies?

And with Trump and the right wing media cheering him on from the sidelines as we speak.

So why didn't he then?  He had 4 years to do it

Seriously?

That's your QED?

I've no idea. Maybe he needed time to get to that point internally or in the Ukraine? Maybe he was watching how the wider geopolitical situation evolved and saw the US right wing and Belarus and so on moving in a direction which made it easier. Maybe it has little to do with who is in power in Washington.

[whitey]

LOL whitey.

Why the hell would Putin not try this with Trump in power?

The same Trump who never missed ANY opportunity to suck up to him and defer to him, even at the expense of publicly selling out his own appointees and intelligence agencies?

And with Trump and the right wing media cheering him on from the sidelines as we speak.

So why didn't he then?  He had 4 years to do it

Seriously?

That's your QED?

I've no idea. Maybe he needed time to get to that point internally or in the Ukraine? Maybe he was watching how the wider geopolitical situation evolved and saw the US right wing and Belarus and so on moving in a direction which made it easier. Maybe it has little to do with who is in power in Washington.

He knew Obama and Biden were a soft touch....that's why he waited for Joe to get in.

Trump supplied Ukraine with heavy duty weapons Obama refused to provide them with

Trump would have played hard ball-FFS he faced down that maniac in North Korea and never backed down and was accused of risking a Nuclear war-threatened him with complete annihalation

Trump would also have forced the Germans to step up

Trump was a pr1ck, but his foreign policy was flawless IMHO

[J70]

Historians will be debating this for decades, but anyway, whitey has the inside scoop....

Flawless foreign policy??

If Trump were in, Ukraine would be safe?

What hardball would Trump be playing against the "genius" he repeatedly was publicly cowed by?

[whitey]

Historians will be debating this for decades, but anyway, whitey has the inside scoop....

Flawless foreign policy??

If Trump were in, Ukraine would be safe?

What hardball would Trump be playing against the "genius" he repeatedly was publicly cowed by?

It was safe.....until Joe got in.

[J70]

Historians will be debating this for decades, but anyway, whitey has the inside scoop....

Flawless foreign policy??

If Trump were in, Ukraine would be safe?

What hardball would Trump be playing against the "genius" he repeatedly was publicly cowed by?

It was safe.....until Joe got in.

QED

You should tell your fellow travelers that this is the case. Most of them seem to be very eager to write off the Ukraine as not a US problem and Putin as a noble genius. Some of them are even letting loose on Biden for his "aggression ".

[Gmac]

Historians will be debating this for decades, but anyway, whitey has the inside scoop....

Flawless foreign policy??

If Trump were in, Ukraine would be safe?

What hardball would Trump be playing against the "genius" he repeatedly was publicly cowed by?

It was safe.....until Joe got in.

QED

You should tell your fellow travelers that this is the case. Most of them seem to be very eager to write off the Ukraine as not a US problem and Putin as a noble genius. Some of them are even letting loose on Biden for his "aggression ".

I'm sure Kamala can talk Putin round

[Gmac]

Joe will speak tomorrow can't even rouse himself to talk tonight , 81 million voted for this ?

[omochain]

 

[lenny]

Joe will speak tomorrow can't even rouse himself to talk tonight , 81 million voted for this ?

Those 81 million people had no sensible alternative.

[An Watcher]

Can't help but think of the Palestinians at this time.  The world are outraged and taking action through sanctions but what actions have been taken to help them? How angered and enraged are the Yanks or brits at their treatment?  I feel for the Ukrainians in this but just highlighting this

[Itchy]

LOL whitey.

Why the hell would Putin not try this with Trump in power?

The same Trump who never missed ANY opportunity to suck up to him and defer to him, even at the expense of publicly selling out his own appointees and intelligence agencies?

And with Trump and the right wing media cheering him on from the sidelines as we speak.

So why didn't he then?  He had 4 years to do it

Seriously?

That's your QED?

I've no idea. Maybe he needed time to get to that point internally or in the Ukraine? Maybe he was watching how the wider geopolitical situation evolved and saw the US right wing and Belarus and so on moving in a direction which made it easier. Maybe it has little to do with who is in power in Washington.

He knew Obama and Biden were a soft touch....that's why he waited for Joe to get in.

Trump supplied Ukraine with heavy duty weapons Obama refused to provide them with

Trump would have played hard ball-FFS he faced down that maniac in North Korea and never backed down and was accused of risking a Nuclear war-threatened him with complete annihalation

Trump would also have forced the Germans to step up

Trump was a pr1ck, but his foreign policy was flawless IMHO

I thought the Russians were trying to help Trump get elected - is that so they could have a worthy foe? Trump, Biden, Obama - all hypocrtical gobshites in my opinion and the idea that they rule a democracy is laughable.

[mrdeeds]

He knew Obama was a soft touch but didn't invade then and didn't Trump threaten to withhold military aid to Ukraine the Russian enabler.