The Many Faces of US Politics...

[J70]

Will THIS be the final nail in the fraudulent, slanderous James O'Keefe/Project Veritas operation?

Or will Fox News and the rest of the right keep hyping his "sting" operations that continually turn out to be a pile of shit?

I'd forgotten about this PA postal worker "story" amidst the torrent of bullshit coming from Trump and the GOP over election "fraud".

https://www.businessinsider.com/postal-service-finds-no-evidence-project-veritas-mail-ballot-claims-2021-3

I guess you have to hand it to O'Keefe though. He must be swimming in cash and donations from his scams. Not everyone lasts a long as he does as a conman. As long as you're not one of the victims.

Sid and Rudy could have teamed up and imagined a better conspiracy that this.  Though it appears the voices coming from inside the head is widely regarded as compelling evidence by most republicans.

"Hopkins  (the main witness) revised his claims, eventually stating that he had not heard a conversation about ballots at all — rather he saw the Postmaster and Supervisor having a discussion and assumed it was about fraudulent ballot backdating," the report says. "[Hopkins] acknowledged that he had no evidence of any backdated presidential ballots."

Most of the allegations, across the board, came from credulous, paranoid bullshit like this. "Oh, there's a van with out-of-state plates. Must be delivering fake votes!"

Its why they were laughed out of court over and over again, even while they kept spewing the bullshit to the media and their followers.

And even after all of that, Trump holds the entire party and movement in the palm of his hand.

History is not going to treat these people kindly.

Meh. They'll just rewrite the textbooks.

True enough.

It can be in there with the "War of Northern Aggression", which had NOTHING to do with slavery!

[Gmac]

Will THIS be the final nail in the fraudulent, slanderous James O'Keefe/Project Veritas operation?

Or will Fox News and the rest of the right keep hyping his "sting" operations that continually turn out to be a pile of shit?

I'd forgotten about this PA postal worker "story" amidst the torrent of bullshit coming from Trump and the GOP over election "fraud".

https://www.businessinsider.com/postal-service-finds-no-evidence-project-veritas-mail-ballot-claims-2021-3

I guess you have to hand it to O'Keefe though. He must be swimming in cash and donations from his scams. Not everyone lasts a long as he does as a conman. As long as you're not one of the victims.

Sid and Rudy could have teamed up and imagined a better conspiracy that this.  Though it appears the voices coming from inside the head is widely regarded as compelling evidence by most republicans.

"Hopkins  (the main witness) revised his claims, eventually stating that he had not heard a conversation about ballots at all — rather he saw the Postmaster and Supervisor having a discussion and assumed it was about fraudulent ballot backdating," the report says. "[Hopkins] acknowledged that he had no evidence of any backdated presidential ballots."

Most of the allegations, across the board, came from credulous, paranoid bullshit like this. "Oh, there's a van with out-of-state plates. Must be delivering fake votes!"

Its why they were laughed out of court over and over again, even while they kept spewing the bullshit to the media and their followers.

And even after all of that, Trump holds the entire party and movement in the palm of his hand.

History is not going to treat these people kindly.

must be the same vans that were kidnapping mail boxes
Joe calling Kamala president Harris again yesterday another gaffe I guess

I guess I missed the mailbox kidnapping issue, whatever it was.

Its amazing the exposure something gets when the President at the time, an entire party and the entire right wing media are pushing credulous, half-baked nonsense.

On Biden, yes, exactly the same sort of gaffe he's been churning out for decades. But if you find comfort in defining him as a drooling vegetable, work away.

are you saying that cnn and msnbc were not pushing the mail boxes are being removed by the Trump administration? Joe nearly hurt himself on stairs of plane today the man should be retired .

[J70]

Will THIS be the final nail in the fraudulent, slanderous James O'Keefe/Project Veritas operation?

Or will Fox News and the rest of the right keep hyping his "sting" operations that continually turn out to be a pile of shit?

I'd forgotten about this PA postal worker "story" amidst the torrent of bullshit coming from Trump and the GOP over election "fraud".

https://www.businessinsider.com/postal-service-finds-no-evidence-project-veritas-mail-ballot-claims-2021-3

I guess you have to hand it to O'Keefe though. He must be swimming in cash and donations from his scams. Not everyone lasts a long as he does as a conman. As long as you're not one of the victims.

Sid and Rudy could have teamed up and imagined a better conspiracy that this.  Though it appears the voices coming from inside the head is widely regarded as compelling evidence by most republicans.

"Hopkins  (the main witness) revised his claims, eventually stating that he had not heard a conversation about ballots at all — rather he saw the Postmaster and Supervisor having a discussion and assumed it was about fraudulent ballot backdating," the report says. "[Hopkins] acknowledged that he had no evidence of any backdated presidential ballots."

Most of the allegations, across the board, came from credulous, paranoid bullshit like this. "Oh, there's a van with out-of-state plates. Must be delivering fake votes!"

Its why they were laughed out of court over and over again, even while they kept spewing the bullshit to the media and their followers.

And even after all of that, Trump holds the entire party and movement in the palm of his hand.

History is not going to treat these people kindly.

must be the same vans that were kidnapping mail boxes
Joe calling Kamala president Harris again yesterday another gaffe I guess

I guess I missed the mailbox kidnapping issue, whatever it was.

Its amazing the exposure something gets when the President at the time, an entire party and the entire right wing media are pushing credulous, half-baked nonsense.

On Biden, yes, exactly the same sort of gaffe he's been churning out for decades. But if you find comfort in defining him as a drooling vegetable, work away.

are you saying that cnn and msnbc were not pushing the mail boxes are being removed by the Trump administration? Joe nearly hurt himself on stairs of plane today the man should be retired .

There were concerns across the country about the service cuts Louis De Joy, a Trump donor appointed to head the postal service, was implementing, including getting rid of  overtime, processing machines and mailboxes. USPS released statements that they were going to halt the program in the lead up to the election. This was at the exact same time Trump was screaming bloody murder about the mail fraud supposedly going to cost him the election.

As for Joe, he is doing a decent job so far, thank you. That's reflected in the level of satisfaction people have with him and in the fact that Republicans and the right wing media are reduced to bullshit campaigns about cancel culture.

[Rossfan]

Must be nice to have a President doing his job of running the Country after 4 years of the mad hatters tweet party.

[omochain]

It sure is. Fact and science based decision making is good apparently.

[Gmac]

It sure is. Fact and science based decision making is good apparently.

letting thousands of people into the country illegally and not testing them for virus is science ?
The first duty of the president is to uphold the law of the country why won't he do that on the southern border ?  too busy going to push a white supremacy narrative in Atlanta , why doesn't he go to Chicago every Monday after 35/40 people are shot over the weekend there ? doesn't work for the narrative that all white conservatives are racist and if you vote for them you are too , a sick message for anyone let alone a president to be pushing. Even China are trying to lecture USA on humanitarian issues they see the chance to pounce on a weak and divisive president.

[Rossfan]

Take yer batin like a man

[J70]

It sure is. Fact and science based decision making is good apparently.

letting thousands of people into the country illegally and not testing them for virus is science ?
The first duty of the president is to uphold the law of the country why won't he do that on the southern border ?  too busy going to push a white supremacy narrative in Atlanta , why doesn't he go to Chicago every Monday after 35/40 people are shot over the weekend there ? doesn't work for the narrative that all white conservatives are racist and if you vote for them you are too , a sick message for anyone let alone a president to be pushing. Even China are trying to lecture USA on humanitarian issues they see the chance to pounce on a weak and divisive president.

Is the "not testing illegal immigrants " thing true?

Is the US testing other people who enter the country? Were they doing so under Trump?

What does Chicago have to do with the mass murder of Asian American women in Atlanta?

Who says or said "all white conservatives are racist"?

[RadioGAAGAA]

The first duty of the president is to uphold the law of the country

Is it not defend the constitution?

[Gmac]

It sure is. Fact and science based decision making is good apparently.

letting thousands of people into the country illegally and not testing them for virus is science ?
The first duty of the president is to uphold the law of the country why won't he do that on the southern border ?  too busy going to push a white supremacy narrative in Atlanta , why doesn't he go to Chicago every Monday after 35/40 people are shot over the weekend there ? doesn't work for the narrative that all white conservatives are racist and if you vote for them you are too , a sick message for anyone let alone a president to be pushing. Even China are trying to lecture USA on humanitarian issues they see the chance to pounce on a weak and divisive president.

Is the "not testing illegal immigrants " thing true?

Is the US testing other people who enter the country? Were they doing so under Trump?

What does Chicago have to do with the mass murder of Asian American women in Atlanta?

Who says or said "all white conservatives are racist"?

they weren't coming in tens of thousands per day , is it the same to enter through an airport or come across a border illegally ? Biden and Harris were so outraged that they had to go there but the same thing happens every weekend in Chicago and nothing is said about it are they not outraged or doesn't fit narrative. Weren't 2 other non Asian  killed in Georgia or they don't count ?

[whitey]

They've has to shut down media access to the holding facilities...it's that bad

They had a border patrol agent on the radio yesterday....900 people voluntarily surrendered to his post alone during his most recents shift.

He said that people are under the impression that if they make it here, they're here for good

4 and 5 year old kids coming across as unaccompanied minors under the "care" of no in in particular

A serious $hit show down ther

[J70]

It sure is. Fact and science based decision making is good apparently.

letting thousands of people into the country illegally and not testing them for virus is science ?
The first duty of the president is to uphold the law of the country why won't he do that on the southern border ?  too busy going to push a white supremacy narrative in Atlanta , why doesn't he go to Chicago every Monday after 35/40 people are shot over the weekend there ? doesn't work for the narrative that all white conservatives are racist and if you vote for them you are too , a sick message for anyone let alone a president to be pushing. Even China are trying to lecture USA on humanitarian issues they see the chance to pounce on a weak and divisive president.

Is the "not testing illegal immigrants " thing true?

Is the US testing other people who enter the country? Were they doing so under Trump?

What does Chicago have to do with the mass murder of Asian American women in Atlanta?

Who says or said "all white conservatives are racist"?

they weren't coming in tens of thousands per day , is it the same to enter through an airport or come across a border illegally ? Biden and Harris were so outraged that they had to go there but the same thing happens every weekend in Chicago and nothing is said about it are they not outraged or doesn't fit narrative. Weren't 2 other non Asian  killed in Georgia or they don't count ?

1. I didn't realize COVID status only mattered if the entrant is illegal, and then only if it crosses a certain number threshold. Thanks for clearing that up. You still didn't answer the question about whether it's true or not.

2. I don't know what you Trumpers would do if Chicago didn't exist. What are YOU or your political reps doing about the violence there? Anything to say about the endless supply of guns available right outside the city limits? Are you FOR proper gun control? I guaran-f**king-tee you your average GOPer doesn't give Chicago a second thought except when some fucked-up white asshole massacres a bunch of people and they don't want to talk about it (sorry, they also wheel it out when  a cop kills an unarmed black person). But given that you're pointing to Chicago again and again, why don't YOU tell us what the Dem and liberal politicians are doing, what GOP are doing, and how each is succeeding or failing. Evidently you're a bit of an authority on the subject.

3. The non-Asian victims of this atrocity have been identified all across the media. I have not seen ANYONE suggest they may not count, except yourself. Nevertheless, 6 out of 8 were Asian women. If you think that is not a significant fact, knock yourself out and tell us why.

[Seamus]

It sure is. Fact and science based decision making is good apparently.

letting thousands of people into the country illegally and not testing them for virus is science ?
The first duty of the president is to uphold the law of the country why won't he do that on the southern border ?  too busy going to push a white supremacy narrative in Atlanta , why doesn't he go to Chicago every Monday after 35/40 people are shot over the weekend there ? doesn't work for the narrative that all white conservatives are racist and if you vote for them you are too , a sick message for anyone let alone a president to be pushing. Even China are trying to lecture USA on humanitarian issues they see the chance to pounce on a weak and divisive president.

Is the "not testing illegal immigrants " thing true?

Is the US testing other people who enter the country? Were they doing so under Trump?

What does Chicago have to do with the mass murder of Asian American women in Atlanta?

Who says or said "all white conservatives are racist"?

they weren't coming in tens of thousands per day , is it the same to enter through an airport or come across a border illegally ? Biden and Harris were so outraged that they had to go there but the same thing happens every weekend in Chicago and nothing is said about it are they not outraged or doesn't fit narrative. Weren't 2 other non Asian  killed in Georgia or they don't count ?

1. I didn't realize COVID status only mattered if the entrant is illegal, and then only if it crosses a certain number threshold. Thanks for clearing that up. You still didn't answer the question about whether it's true or not.

2. I don't know what you Trumpers would do if Chicago didn't exist. What are YOU or your political reps doing about the violence there? Anything to say about the endless supply of guns available right outside the city limits? Are you FOR proper gun control? I guaran-f**king-tee you your average GOPer doesn't give Chicago a second thought except when some fucked-up white asshole massacres a bunch of people and they don't want to talk about it (sorry, they also wheel it out when  a cop kills an unarmed black person). But given that you're pointing to Chicago again and again, why don't YOU tell us what the Dem and liberal politicians are doing, what GOP are doing, and how each is succeeding or failing. Evidently you're a bit of an authority on the subject.

3. The non-Asian victims of this atrocity have been identified all across the media. I have not seen ANYONE suggest they may not count, except yourself. Nevertheless, 6 out of 8 were Asian women. If you think that is not a significant fact, knock yourself out and tell us why.

In your opinion is the alleged shooter a white supremacist and Trump supporter?

[whitey]

Shooting had fvck all to do with race.

It would be like someone with a gambling addiction shooting up a bookie shop or a casino.....he'd have shot whoever was there, regardless of race

[J70]

It sure is. Fact and science based decision making is good apparently.

letting thousands of people into the country illegally and not testing them for virus is science ?
The first duty of the president is to uphold the law of the country why won't he do that on the southern border ?  too busy going to push a white supremacy narrative in Atlanta , why doesn't he go to Chicago every Monday after 35/40 people are shot over the weekend there ? doesn't work for the narrative that all white conservatives are racist and if you vote for them you are too , a sick message for anyone let alone a president to be pushing. Even China are trying to lecture USA on humanitarian issues they see the chance to pounce on a weak and divisive president.

Is the "not testing illegal immigrants " thing true?

Is the US testing other people who enter the country? Were they doing so under Trump?

What does Chicago have to do with the mass murder of Asian American women in Atlanta?

Who says or said "all white conservatives are racist"?

they weren't coming in tens of thousands per day , is it the same to enter through an airport or come across a border illegally ? Biden and Harris were so outraged that they had to go there but the same thing happens every weekend in Chicago and nothing is said about it are they not outraged or doesn't fit narrative. Weren't 2 other non Asian  killed in Georgia or they don't count ?

1. I didn't realize COVID status only mattered if the entrant is illegal, and then only if it crosses a certain number threshold. Thanks for clearing that up. You still didn't answer the question about whether it's true or not.

2. I don't know what you Trumpers would do if Chicago didn't exist. What are YOU or your political reps doing about the violence there? Anything to say about the endless supply of guns available right outside the city limits? Are you FOR proper gun control? I guaran-f**king-tee you your average GOPer doesn't give Chicago a second thought except when some fucked-up white asshole massacres a bunch of people and they don't want to talk about it (sorry, they also wheel it out when  a cop kills an unarmed black person). But given that you're pointing to Chicago again and again, why don't YOU tell us what the Dem and liberal politicians are doing, what GOP are doing, and how each is succeeding or failing. Evidently you're a bit of an authority on the subject.

3. The non-Asian victims of this atrocity have been identified all across the media. I have not seen ANYONE suggest they may not count, except yourself. Nevertheless, 6 out of 8 were Asian women. If you think that is not a significant fact, knock yourself out and tell us why.

In your opinion is the alleged shooter a white supremacist and Trump supporter?

No idea if he is a white supremacist. He would appear to have a serious issue with Asian women working in massage parlours. Maybe he is fixated on them as part of his supposed sexual addiction. Maybe he just hates women in general or presumed sex workers specifically and his targets just happened to be overwhelmingly Asian.

Trump supporter? White evangelical christian from the Deep South, supposedly suffering from serious guilt and psychological issues over sex... I'd put my money on yes.