The Many Faces of US Politics...

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sid waddell

Quote from: Jell 0 Biafra on December 11, 2020, 02:16:05 AM
Ah, but if John Lennon had had a gun that night, then how many would it be?
Gun rights campaigners count every white gun murderer as two people, not non-white ones though

J70

Quote from: Gmac on December 11, 2020, 01:20:47 AM
Quote from: J70 on December 11, 2020, 12:13:53 AM
Quote from: Gmac on December 10, 2020, 11:41:07 PM
Quote from: J70 on December 10, 2020, 10:41:38 PM
Quote from: Gmac on December 10, 2020, 10:10:11 PM
I see it's ok to report on hunter Biden now that the big guy aka pops has won the election.

Right, because no one was talking about it before.

It DID NOT come up in the presidential debates.

Face it, no one gave a shit. Just like no one gives a shit about Trump and HIS family lining their pockets on the public dime.
what about joes 10% do you care about that ?

10% of what?

Do you care about the Trump corruption and self-dealing?

Yer man Purdue running in Georgia?
i think it's fair to say trump and his brand has took a huge hit since he became president
Biden got into  politics to get rich and has done so .

That must be why Trump has been fleecing the taxpayer left, right and centre, charging premium prices while he hosts all the government shit he can at his own properties.

J70

Quote from: sid waddell on December 11, 2020, 01:57:52 AM
Since John Lennon was murdered 40 years ago, 1,436,000 people have been killed by guns in the US

Banning guns would be a really good idea

More than 3000 a day dying of COVID now. And it's only going up.

The new New Hampshire House Speaker, sworn in just last week, died of it today, just over a week or so after attending a GOP super spreader event.

Expect more sickness to come from Trump and Pompeo's large holiday parties.

Eamonnca1

There could yet be an air strike ordered on Iran the day before Biden's inauguration. I wouldn't be surprised if the generals just flat out tell him to f*** off.

J70

Quote from: Seamus on December 10, 2020, 02:47:08 AM
Looks more and more likely that the election fraud is heading to the Supreme Court, 17 states have joined Texas stating what happened in Georgia, Pennsylvania, Michigan and Wisconsin is unconstitutional which of course is correct. All Supreme Court judges claim to honor the Constitution so there should be only one outcome. Klaus Schwab's deplorable Great Reset may now not happen.

Expect a stay on the Electoral College process with a 4/5 week SC overview followed by a Trump second term. The Demons fell for the trap.

Ahem. ;D ;D ;D

Main Street

You'd almost get the impression that the conservative judges want to be free from Trump and the oppressive imposition that there is a debt to be repayed to him.

bannside

Wont be long until there is mutiny in the grrat imposters ranks and the Trump admin comes falling down like a house of cards.

LeoMc

And so the split begins.
https://www.texasgop.org/chairman-allen-wests-response-to-scotus-decision/
Time to form a Union of states that will abide by the constitution. Secession anyone?

J70

Quote from: LeoMc on December 12, 2020, 08:24:25 AM
And so the split begins.
https://www.texasgop.org/chairman-allen-wests-response-to-scotus-decision/
Time to form a Union of states that will abide by the constitution. Secession anyone?

So that's where Allen West ended up. Hadn't heard of that gobshite in a while.

Personally, I think some kind of break-up might be seriously debated eventually. Not saying it will happen; the logistics and feasibility are mind blowing. But with the right wing heading, with the wind in their sails, further and further off into lunatic land, there is increasingly little common ground to be had. They've been an utter disgrace under Trump, and the display of dishonest, cynical servility on the part of their DC politicians the past month is nothing short of scandalous and should mark the end of the GOP. But it won't. These politicians know which side their bread is buttered on, and how their base, with the prodding of themselves and the right wing media, has become utterly detached from reality. They've created a monster which they're now slaves to. I don't know how it ends, but it doesn't end with Trump.

LeoMc

Trump is only a symptom, not the cause but he has been a lightning rod for "the base" and the GOP know it. It exposes those who want power for powers sake, those who will hitch their wagon to whomever delivers the votes.

Trump didn't drain the swamp but he has exposed the rot.

sid waddell

Quote from: LeoMc on December 12, 2020, 01:20:14 PM
Trump is only a symptom, not the cause but he has been a lightning rod for "the base" and the GOP know it. It exposes those who want power for powers sake, those who will hitch their wagon to whomever delivers the votes.

Trump didn't drain the swamp but he has exposed the rot.
And he has spread the rot, in a massive way

Sunlight is not a disinfectant in this case

Main Street

Quote from: J70 on December 12, 2020, 12:05:57 PM
Quote from: LeoMc on December 12, 2020, 08:24:25 AM
And so the split begins.
https://www.texasgop.org/chairman-allen-wests-response-to-scotus-decision/
Time to form a Union of states that will abide by the constitution. Secession anyone?

So that's where Allen West ended up. Hadn't heard of that gobshite in a while.

Personally, I think some kind of break-up might be seriously debated eventually. Not saying it will happen; the logistics and feasibility are mind blowing. But with the right wing heading, with the wind in their sails, further and further off into lunatic land, there is increasingly little common ground to be had. They've been an utter disgrace under Trump, and the display of dishonest, cynical servility on the part of their DC politicians the past month is nothing short of scandalous and should mark the end of the GOP. But it won't. These politicians know which side their bread is buttered on, and how their base, with the prodding of themselves and the right wing media, has become utterly detached from reality. They've created a monster which they're now slaves to. I don't know how it ends, but it doesn't end with Trump.
The ironic aspect is that the states themselves set the rules for elections, any dispute is a matter for the governance and courts in each state and each State has total autonomy. Texas was attempting to interfere via the USA supreme court in the autonomy of 4 other states who have already declared their elections as 100% kosher.


J70

I'd forgotten about some of these people, but worth a read for the list of those who've destroyed their careers by selling their souls for Trump

https://thetriad.thebulwark.com/p/everyone-trump-touches-dies-the-list

I'm kind of agree with the author on Sarah Huckabee Sanders. She absolutely made her name being a combative apologist for Trump, but she did seem, at least at times, to be keeping at least some level of dignity (talking relative here), at least enough that her career is not at an end.

Jeff Sessions and Giuliani though... ;D

And Manafort! :o

Eamonnca1

Today in Trumpistan:

Trump administration cuts $200 million in healthcare funds to California over abortions

Since California is a net contributor to the federal government, this is basically a smash and grab.

I wish he'd piss off back to the golf course and leave the American people alone. Better to have a president doing nothing than him actively enacting his scorched earth policy.

sid waddell

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Quote from: J70 on December 15, 2020, 09:34:42 PM
I'd forgotten about some of these people, but worth a read for the list of those who've destroyed their careers by selling their souls for Trump

https://thetriad.thebulwark.com/p/everyone-trump-touches-dies-the-list

I'm kind of agree with the author on Sarah Huckabee Sanders. She absolutely made her name being a combative apologist for Trump, but she did seem, at least at times, to be keeping at least some level of dignity (talking relative here), at least enough that her career is not at an end.

Jeff Sessions and Giuliani though... ;D

And Manafort! :o
No she didn't

Manafort's life's work has been to advance the interests of tyrants

He ran "the Torturer's lobby" back in the 1980s with Roger Stone

The one enduring lesson of this regime should be that international organised crime is made up by the sort of people that populated the Trump regime

Robert Mueller knew this in 2011 when he gave a speech that contained the following

Then he did precisely nothing about it

https://archives.fbi.gov/archives/news/speeches/the-evolving-organized-crime-threat

QuoteThey may be former members of nation-state governments, security services, or the military. These individuals know who and what to target, and how best to do it. They are capitalists and entrepreneurs. But they are also master criminals who move easily between the licit and illicit worlds. And in some cases, these organizations are as forward-leaning as Fortune 500 companies.

This is not "The Sopranos," with six guys sitting in a diner, shaking down a local business owner for $50 dollars a week. These criminal enterprises are making billions of dollars from human trafficking, health care fraud, computer intrusions, and copyright infringement. They are cornering the market on natural gas, oil, and precious metals, and selling to the highest bidder.

These crimes are not easily categorized. Nor can the damage, the dollar loss, or the ripple effects be easily calculated. It is much like a Venn diagram, where one crime intersects with another, in different jurisdictions, and with different groups.

How does this impact you? You may not recognize the source, but you will feel the effects. You might pay more for a gallon of gas. You might pay more for a luxury car from overseas. You will pay more for health care, mortgages, clothes, and food.   

Yet we are concerned with more than just the financial impact. These groups may infiltrate our businesses. They may provide logistical support to hostile foreign powers. They may try to manipulate those at the highest levels of government. Indeed, these so-called "iron triangles" of organized criminals, corrupt government officials, and business leaders pose a significant national security threat.

Trump, the Brexiteer zealots, Putin, Netanyahu and the Saudis are all described by the above