The Many Faces of US Politics...

[five points]

In all my years I never saw a 4/1 chance fluctuate to 1/5 so quickly in whats basically a two horse race. It looks like the so called experts havent a clue whats going on in that crazy mixed up place...where the acting president publicly wants to flout the key principle of democracy....and yet still manages to get circa 49% of the country voting for him.

For that alone this cowboy deserves to be in the WTF thread on this discussion board.

Where is your evidence for this?

Seriously?

He's very publicly railing against the counting of votes!

Something he's been threatening for months.

Again where did he say this? Not in his press conference speech this morning when he called for no voting after the polls had closed.

He didn't say no counting, which would have been nonsensical as votes have to be counted sometime after polls close.

Fair enough.

He did however say that the election was being stolen. Given that no voting was taking place after the "poles" had closed, and no one had or has presented anything remotely resembling evidence that it was, what else could his implication have been?

Do you think it was a responsible bit of rhetoric for a president or presidential candidate to put out, especially with the country on a knife-age bracing for trouble?

I don't disagree with you in either respect but if he or his backroom people have evidence of irregularities, he's hardly going to produce it at a press conference in the middle of election night.

There is neither reason nor excuse for anyone to be causing trouble.

If the vote and its counting stand scrutiny, then so be it.

If there are irregularities or errors, there are processes in place to investigate and if necessary correct for these.

If in the meantime anyone creates violence or other public disorder, the law should deal with and punish them as it does other criminals.

[LCohen]

Looking at this now it is Biden 224, Trump 213.

Trump likely to get NC(15) GE(16) and AK(3) = 247

Biden likely to get MI(16), WI(10), AZ(11) and ME(4) = 265.

That leaves NV(6) & PA(20). Trump needs both. Biden needs either.

True with a caveat that there is still a chance for Biden in Georgia. Postal votes in large urban areas yet to come so Biden should close the gap and run it close

[Hound]

Looking at this now it is Biden 224, Trump 213.

Trump likely to get NC(15) GE(16) and AK(3) = 247

Biden likely to get MI(16), WI(10), AZ(11) and ME(4) = 265.

That leaves NV(6) & PA(20). Trump needs both. Biden needs either.

True with a caveat that there is still a chance for Biden in Georgia. Postal votes in large urban areas yet to come so Biden should close the gap and run it close

Also Trump has still a chance in Arizona
At 82%, Biden was up by 130k
At 86%, Biden leads by 93k

No idea how the remaining 14% goes, but also one to watch.

[J70]

In all my years I never saw a 4/1 chance fluctuate to 1/5 so quickly in whats basically a two horse race. It looks like the so called experts havent a clue whats going on in that crazy mixed up place...where the acting president publicly wants to flout the key principle of democracy....and yet still manages to get circa 49% of the country voting for him.

For that alone this cowboy deserves to be in the WTF thread on this discussion board.

Where is your evidence for this?

Seriously?

He's very publicly railing against the counting of votes!

Something he's been threatening for months.

Again where did he say this? Not in his press conference speech this morning when he called for no voting after the polls had closed.

He didn't say no counting, which would have been nonsensical as votes have to be counted sometime after polls close.

Fair enough.

He did however say that the election was being stolen. Given that no voting was taking place after the "poles" had closed, and no one had or has presented anything remotely resembling evidence that it was, what else could his implication have been?

Do you think it was a responsible bit of rhetoric for a president or presidential candidate to put out, especially with the country on a knife-age bracing for trouble?

I don't disagree with you in either respect but if he or his backroom people have evidence of irregularities, he's hardly going to produce it at a press conference in the middle of election night.

There is neither reason nor excuse for anyone to be causing trouble.

If the vote and its counting stand scrutiny, then so be it.

If there are irregularities or errors, there are processes in place to investigate and if necessary correct for these.

If in the meantime anyone creates violence or other public disorder, the law should deal with and punish them as it does other criminals.

I agree with that.

[shark]

Looking at this now it is Biden 224, Trump 213.

Trump likely to get NC(15) GE(16) and AK(3) = 247

Biden likely to get MI(16), WI(10), AZ(11) and ME(4) = 265.

That leaves NV(6) & PA(20). Trump needs both. Biden needs either.

True with a caveat that there is still a chance for Biden in Georgia. Postal votes in large urban areas yet to come so Biden should close the gap and run it close

Also Trump has still a chance in Arizona
At 82%, Biden was up by 130k
At 86%, Biden leads by 93k

No idea how the remaining 14% goes, but also one to watch.

More than 300k votes to go in Maricopa County (Phoenix). Biden has been 6 pct points ahead there so far. That's why it is expected to be blue.

[screenexile]

300,000 absentee ballots not delivered in Atlanta... 27% Of South Florida's mail ballots not delivered!!!

Not great PR for the Postal Service. Do we know they guy running that?? Who are his known associates?

[J70]

300,000 absentee ballots not delivered in Atlanta... 27% Of South Florida's mail ballots not delivered!!!

Not great PR for the Postal Service. Do we know they guy running that?? Who are his known associates?

Are these blank ballots being delivered to homes?

Completed ballots mailed to polling centres?

[gallsman]

The latter from what I read of it. Sourced here:

https://twitter.com/johnkruzel/status/1324004554485211136?s=19

[Gmac]

Trump needs nc pa nv ga , az Wi mi look like Biden's

[J70]

Nevada looks like Biden's, unless Clark and Washoe counties have areas in them where Trump is going to run up the score (they're dominated by Las Vegas and Reno, respectively).

Where's Puckoon? Doesn't he live somewhere around Reno?

Around 75% of each reporting so far. Biden 7 points up in Vegas, 4 in Reno.

Presumably that will hold, unless there are a bunch of wealthy GOP areas within that haven't reported yet.

[J70]

The latter from what I read of it. Sourced here:

https://twitter.com/johnkruzel/status/1324004554485211136?s=19

Let's hope they're not decisive.

[J70]

Actually, apparently Nevada is done apart from mail-in ballots that came in yesterday and over the next few days, and provisional ballots.

No more results until tomorrow morning, Vegas time. Hold onto your hats!

https://twitter.com/NVElect/status/1323939477060943877

[Gabriel_Hurl]

Nevada looks like Biden's, unless Clark and Washoe counties have areas in them where Trump is going to run up the score (they're dominated by Las Vegas and Reno, respectively).

Where's Puckoon? Doesn't he live somewhere around Reno?

Around 75% of each reporting so far. Biden 7 points up in Vegas, 4 in Reno.

Presumably that will hold, unless there are a bunch of wealthy GOP areas within that haven't reported yet.

Yeah - he's up in Reno

[armaghniac]

Biden now 34,000 ahead in Michigan, and 20% of votes around Detroit still to come.

[J70]

Not to be too much of a nerd, but the registered voting population of Nevada was 1.8 million last January (presumably its gone up a bit since).
https://www.nvsos.gov/sos/home/showdocument?id=8344

If turnout is around 67% (think someone said that is what it is nationally), then around 1.2 million would be expected to vote based on the January number.

Which is roughly the number of votes counted so far between the two of them.

May not be that many left to count, but with the margin less than 8K, who knows what will happen? One would expect the bulk of the remaining mail-ins to be from Vegas and Reno, but we'll see.