The Many Faces of US Politics...

[heganboy]

Just because someone says something is true on TV doesn't make it so...

Witness "trickle down economics" verifiably nonsense but spouted by every advocate of the tax bill, even on TV.

[whitey]

Just because someone says something is true on TV doesn't make it so...

Witness "trickle down economics" verifiably nonsense but spouted by every advocate of the tax bill, even on TV.

Time will tell whether it's true or not.....and Schiff has now lost all moral authority to stop it based on his histrionics last week

All of a sudden I'm more optimistic about the November election as I was a month ago

Generic ballots have tightened considerably and supposedly Republicans have a big money advantage

[heganboy]

Can't think why they might have a financial advantage?
Nope, no idea why, maybe they get more votes so more people donate?

No hang on, there might be something else..

[heganboy]

Unless of course you are optimistic that the elected representatives might actually represent the 90 per cent of the country in the middle of the clowns to the left and the jokers to the right?

[seafoid]

Just because someone says something is true on TV doesn't make it so...

Witness "trickle down economics" verifiably nonsense but spouted by every advocate of the tax bill, even on TV.

Time will tell whether it's true or not.....and Schiff has now lost all moral authority to stop it based on his histrionics last week

All of a sudden I'm more optimistic about the November election as I was a month ago

Generic ballots have tightened considerably and supposedly Republicans have a big money advantage

Something very bad will prolly happen to the GOP/Trump before November.  He is running his administration for the plutocrats.

[seafoid]

@ddale8

After intense lobbying from payday loan companies, Indiana Republicans voted to allow them to charge interest rates three times higher than what current Indiana criminal law defines as felony loansharking:

[whitey]

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.washingtonpost.com/amphtml/politics/republican-national-committee-has-huge-financial-edge-heading-into-2018-midterms/2018/02/01/c7704056-06af-11e8-94e8-e8b8600ade23_story.html


"President Trump's robust small-donor base helped the Republican National Committee vastly outraise its Democratic counterpart in 2017 as the two parties geared up for a crucial midterm campaign season, new Federal Election Commission filings show."


Democrats are a shambles....5 separate responses to the SOTU...clueless


Keep it up

[sid waddell]

What sort of reputation has Nunes?

Anybody?

Also, can anybody tell me how long this Carter Page chap was under investigation for, and why he was under investigation?

Nobody willing to field this one?

[Hardy]

Just because someone says something is true on TV doesn't make it so...

Witness "trickle down economics" verifiably nonsense but spouted by every advocate of the tax bill, even on TV.

Time will tell whether it's true or not.....and Schiff has now lost all moral authority to stop it based on his histrionics last week

All of a sudden I'm more optimistic about the November election as I was a month ago

Generic ballots have tightened considerably and supposedly Republicans have a big money advantage

Something very bad will prolly happen to the GOP/Trump before November.  He is running his administration for the plutocrats.

Holy shit Seafoid. You?

[whitey]

What sort of reputation has Nunes?

Anybody?

Also, can anybody tell me how long this Carter Page chap was under investigation for, and why he was under investigation?

Nobody willing to field this one?

Depends on who you ask.....Republicans think thes great and Democrats think hes a rabid partisan whos endangering National Security.  Just Schiff in reverse

From my vantage point the whole collusion narrative and dossier are just a textbook Clinton/DNC dirty trick.  As such I really dont carethat the Republican are breaking every rule in the book to expose it.....you have to fight fire with fire


This is probably the best explanation of what Page is all about


https://www.wsj.com/articles/former-trump-aide-carter-page-was-on-u-s-counterintelligence-radar-before-russia-dossier-1517486401

(let me know if its behind a firewall and Ill cut and paste the article)

[heganboy]

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.washingtonpost.com/amphtml/politics/republican-national-committee-has-huge-financial-edge-heading-into-2018-midterms/2018/02/01/c7704056-06af-11e8-94e8-e8b8600ade23_story.html


"President Trump's robust small-donor base helped the Republican National Committee vastly outraise its Democratic counterpart in 2017 as the two parties geared up for a crucial midterm campaign season, new Federal Election Commission filings show."


Democrats are a shambles....5 separate responses to the SOTU...clueless


Keep it up

But this is 2018
https://www.cnn.com/2018/01/27/politics/koch-republican-election-candidates-donate/index.html

[whitey]

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.washingtonpost.com/amphtml/politics/republican-national-committee-has-huge-financial-edge-heading-into-2018-midterms/2018/02/01/c7704056-06af-11e8-94e8-e8b8600ade23_story.html


"President Trump's robust small-donor base helped the Republican National Committee vastly outraise its Democratic counterpart in 2017 as the two parties geared up for a crucial midterm campaign season, new Federal Election Commission filings show."


Democrats are a shambles....5 separate responses to the SOTU...clueless


Keep it up

But this is 2018
https://www.cnn.com/2018/01/27/politics/koch-republican-election-candidates-donate/index.html

keep spinning and diverting......its worked out great for the Democrats so far-lol

[heganboy]

Whitey,
Your world view is a cause of the problem, not a symptom. Don't like it, therefore spin Hilary libtard left conspiracy.

It's everyone else's fault, poor me, someone needs to come along and sort out my issues. Under educated white people basking in decides old world views and shunning reality.

To be clear about this, the mirror image is available for consumption on the left also.
Rich Republicans screwing me, same exact refrain, but blame squarely placed elsewhere. If you listen, you will hear my way or the highway, racist, communist, Nazi, socialist blah blah.

Step back for a day, look at facts instead of opinions, make your own mind up not on the shit floating on your own pool, but at the country.

The infrastructure debt, the national debt, the growing gap between have and have not. The education crisis, the healthcare crisis, the Opiod epidemic. The broken tax system, special interests, lobbyist, the state of the trains, the roads, the buses. The electrical grid, droughts, water, guns, welfare, education system, cable, wireless, banking system. Rich political donors shaping policy, shaping news, shaping opinion. Poor people thanking God our Lord and savior for one thing, pushing capital punishment and racism for the other.

America is close to broken, and needs help and neither side gives a shit about doing anything other than getting reelected or getting the lobbyist gig. To quote Dave Chapelle, If we had any sense, than his government might be the catalyst for change, but probably not...

[seafoid]

Just because someone says something is true on TV doesn't make it so...

Witness "trickle down economics" verifiably nonsense but spouted by every advocate of the tax bill, even on TV.

Time will tell whether it's true or not.....and Schiff has now lost all moral authority to stop it based on his histrionics last week

All of a sudden I'm more optimistic about the November election as I was a month ago

Generic ballots have tightened considerably and supposedly Republicans have a big money advantage

Something very bad will prolly happen to the GOP/Trump before November.  He is running his administration for the plutocrats.

Holy shit Seafoid. You?

It's the US thread !

[sid waddell]

What sort of reputation has Nunes?

Anybody?

Also, can anybody tell me how long this Carter Page chap was under investigation for, and why he was under investigation?

Nobody willing to field this one?

Depends on who you ask.....Republicans think thes great and Democrats think hes a rabid partisan whos endangering National Security.  Just Schiff in reverse

From my vantage point the whole collusion narrative and dossier are just a textbook Clinton/DNC dirty trick.  As such I really dont carethat the Republican are breaking every rule in the book to expose it.....you have to fight fire with fire


This is probably the best explanation of what Page is all about


https://www.wsj.com/articles/former-trump-aide-carter-page-was-on-u-s-counterintelligence-radar-before-russia-dossier-1517486401

(let me know if its behind a firewall and Ill cut and paste the article)

Is it true Nunes has a record of inventing fake "scandals" to benefit Trump?

Such as, say, last year, inventing a "whistleblower", who turned out to be a White House adviser, who had fed him bogus information about the supposed "unlawful unmasking" by senior officials in the Obama administration of the identities of Trump campaign officials caught on foreign intelligence intercepts.

Then Nunes staged a visit to the White House to "inform" them of bogus information that the White House had given him in the first place!

As a result of discrediting himself, Nunes had to recuse himself from the House Russia investigation.

He has not done this.

Last year, Nunes said about Trump's links to Russia: "They've looked," he said, "and it's all a dead trail that leads me to believe no contact, not even pizza-delivery-guy contract."

This was patently not true.

Nunes also tried to create a fake scandal about the baseless Uranium One allegations.

So, all told, it's fair to say this Nunes chap has a proven record of attempting to create fake scandals in an attempt to discredit anybody who investigates Trump.

That means that he is a person of no credibility.

Yet this same person of no credibility is the same person whose memo the Republicans are hanging their hat on yet again in an effort to create another fake scandal.

And once again it appears he has colluded with Trump in order to create this fake scandal.



As for Carter Page, can you tell me it's true whether he was on the FBI's radar from as far back as 2013 because he was being cultivated by a Russian spy ring?

Is it true he travelled to Moscow in July 2016 to make a fervently pro-Russian speech which castigated the US?

Does this sound like a person of interest? If you ask me, I'd say "hell yes".

Is it true the Trump campaign was forced to quietly drop him in September 2016?

Is it true that at the time of the FISA warrant against him in October 2016, he was no longer working for Trump?

Because Trump supporters have been constantly telling us that the Trump campaign was illegally under surveillance.

Yet they have i) not  been able to say where any law was broken and ii) the person through which they claim the Trump campaign was under surveillance, wasn't even working for Trump.

And thus, this whole "scandal" is exposed for what it is - a fake load of nonsense concocted by somebody with no credibility whatsoever in attempt to get rid of the Mueller investigation into Trump.

I can't think why Trump and the likes of Nunes would want to get rid of that investigation.