The Many Faces of US Politics...

[J70]

Interesting.

And it was in the days before asbestos awareness really hit the public consciousness. I wonder were any steps taken to protect those workers from all the asbestos-containing stuff they may have ripped out? Or lead?

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Chuck and Nancy just bitch slapped the President!!!

Is this them taking their opportunity to capitalise on his poor approval ratings??

[Eamonnca1]

Well - not only is Donnie not admitting it - he's now saying the Access Hollywood tape was faked. The only slight issue with that is that he's already apologized for saying the stuff on the tape.

"Anyone who knows me knows these words don't reflect who I am. I said it, I was wrong and I apologize."

It boggles the mind

His supporters don't care. Tell them we were always at war with East Asia and they'll believe it. We live in a post-truth world.

[whitey]

Well - not only is Donnie not admitting it - he's now saying the Access Hollywood tape was faked. The only slight issue with that is that he's already apologized for saying the stuff on the tape.

"Anyone who knows me knows these words don't reflect who I am. I said it, I was wrong and I apologize."

It boggles the mind

His supporters don't care. Tell them we were always at war with East Asia and they'll believe it. We live in a post-truth world.

As Trump famously said he could shoot someone in the middle of 5th Ave and it wouldnt make any difference to his supporters.

Unless the Democrats wake up they wont make the gains they should on 2018.....did you see Nancy Pelosis performance on Sunday morning?  If Kelly Ann said that, people would be out with burning pitchforks

[J70]

Well - not only is Donnie not admitting it - he's now saying the Access Hollywood tape was faked. The only slight issue with that is that he's already apologized for saying the stuff on the tape.

"Anyone who knows me knows these words don't reflect who I am. I said it, I was wrong and I apologize."

It boggles the mind

His supporters don't care. Tell them we were always at war with East Asia and they'll believe it. We live in a post-truth world.

As Trump famously said he could shoot someone in the middle of 5th Ave and it wouldnt make any difference to his supporters.

Unless the Democrats wake up they wont make the gains they should on 2018.....did you see Nancy Pelosis performance on Sunday morning?  If Kelly Ann said that, people would be out with burning pitchforks

Train wreck.

At least she was aware enough afterwards to strip Conyers of his seniority on the Judiciary committee, but that was a damaging performance which, as you say, would have been rightly pilloried had KA Conway given it.

Personally I think Franken and Conyers should step down. Let the GOP elect Moore and continue to love Trump if they want to.

[Eamonnca1]

Yup. Dems have to be squeaky clean if they're to stand a chance. Republicans can get away with murder since their core supporters have no morals, but Dems cannot get away with even the slightest transgression in front of an election ("but her emails!"). Sad but true.

[stew]

Sanctuary cities... what's your problem with that? Any stats to back up your problem? Do you think its better if illegal immigrants are afraid to go to or cooperate with the cops and other local authorities? Will THAT help public safety?

No illegals = no problem.

What part of that don't you understand?

Meanwhile, back in the real world (not the unobtainable, illegal-free utopia of your dreams), there ARE in fact millions of illegals who, short of some mass, NAZI-style round-up, are not going anywhere and present a scenario which has to be reckoned with by actual local authorities and public safety organizations.

They are illegals! In the real world they are illegally in the country and have no rights to be there at all at all, the number does not matter to me one iota, you spewing millions does not deflect from the fact they should not be in the country and are breaking the law of the country every day they are in the country llegally.

What's better for overall public safety and health stew?

A large body of people who are NOT afraid to go to the authorities, when necessary, or millions living completely in the shadows, afraid to report and cooperate and help nail criminals and law breakers, legal or otherwise?

Or the third option, the large body of people who were illegal go home to their respective countries and do not have to go to the American authorities because they are not there to go to the American authorities, I choose option 3.

[stew]

Stew:
Was it a Democrat who done you out of playing corner forward for the Harps.
I am trying to figure out what made you so angry and that is the closest I am coming to a rational answer.

I have opinions on American politics, you know who I am, I have not a f**ks notion who you are, if you ever want to know anything about me just pm me!

I am not angry, I simply despise with all my heart what the left has done to America in the States, I am sick of transgender talk, the debt Obama put the country into, the middle east and ISIS as well as the liberal f**ks that run the sanctuary cities, I could go on and on.

I never played for the Harps seniors in corner forward because I was a back, I never played for the Hrps senior team for two reasons, i was not good enough and I preferred sawker and was much better at that than Gaelic.

I would be  a labour voter in England, not a single one of the f**kers on this Island north or south is worth voting for, in the States none of them are worth voting for either, that said a vote to deny Clinton was a vote well spent, even if that c**k Trump was the beneficiary!

Hope that answers your question anon!

The transgender issue features first on your list of gripes?? Seriously? Advocacy for inclusiveness and accommodation for transgender people? THAT'S a major problem for you?? Do you wish they'd f**k off back into the closet?

Transgenderism It is not remotely first, it was the first thing I wrote, there are far more pressing issues but I am sick and tired of hearing how f**king great and brave and wonderful yer man Jenner is now that he has baps and no balls! Winning awards for bravety etc! FFS wise up!!!

Still harping on about the debt while ignoring the conditions that led to it and offering no alternative whatsoever as to what should have been done (and ignoring the GOP's latest reimbrace of deficit spending once they're back in power).

I have offered alternatives as to what should have been done you clampett!!!  The GOP are as inept as the left, they are just less corrupt in my opinion, two sides of the same you know what blah blah b;lah!!!

The Middle East/ISIS... I'm not saying Obama handled that particular powder keg very well, but no blame from you for the GOP and Bush for what they did in Iraq which led directly to ISIS? Put it this way, what should Obama have done differently? The Iraqis wanted them out. They agreed under Bush to get out. The US people wanted them out.

The next time you cricitise  Obama will be the first time on this issue!

Sanctuary cities... what's your problem with that? Any stats to back up your problem? Do you think its better if illegal immigrants are afraid to go to or cooperate with the cops and other local authorities? Will THAT help public safety?

Illegal aliens should not be in the country ffs! I would prefer they were back in whatever country they are from, Irish included! Its not hard, the rule of law needs to apply to all not just the non supercitizens that the left love for votes!

My problem with sanctuary cities is that they give safe harbor to criminals that are not even supposed to be in the country, I know how hard illegal imigrants work, I have seen it first hand, the problem with illegals, or one of the problems is that they dont give a f**k about the law if it effects their illegal entry into the country, and then there are the sheep that support their lawbreaking, liberals love to break the law if it suits their narrative and I hate them for that! Why should I follow the rules when they dont have to??

Do you break the law when it suits YOU stew? Do you speed when driving? Have you ever drove when you had that one drink too many and shouldn't have? Have you you done a few jobs under the table, cash in hand, out of earshot of the taxman? Have you ever hired an outfit to do construction on your house who might be employing illegals? Have you ever ordered a pizza or chinese and had it delivered by some Latino on a bike or moped who is probably illegal? Do you delve into every company you do business with to check their status with regards illegals, or are like the rest of us who have more important things to worry about than whether your delivery dude or the lad blowing the leaves across the street is legal or not? Everyone can justify or rationalize skirting the rules at some point. Your "liberals love to break the law if it suits their narrative and I hate them for that!" is just your usual blinkered, baseless vitriol.

And on the sanctuary city issue itself, there are degrees. I would agree with you that criminals should be handed over to the immigration authorities after serving their sentence. I have no problem whatsoever with that and I'd be surprised if many do. I have no problem with legitimate, genuine suspects being kicked out. What I support is allowing immigrants to report to and cooperate with the cops and authorities without fear of ICE being called. I don't think ICE agents should be pursuing kids in school, or that a family should be afraid to report their abusive landlord for fear of the immigration authorities being called.

Are you really comparing speeding with living in a country you have no right to be in?

I have drove too fast many times, I broke the law and when caught I got tickets and paid fines, I was held accountable, got points on my license and my insurance went up.

I got destroyed by a drunk driver when I was 26 and had to learn to read and write all over again due to a severe head injury from which I got epilepsy and a shit ton of seizures, so I do not drink and drive.

Have I done jobs for cash, yes is the simple answer, if I had got caught picking strawberrys and getting cash money and screwing the taxman I would have been fined, I did this from when I was 11 until I was 16 or so.

I had a company called Tycore Built build my home, they are a family owned business with zero illegals on their books, they are fantastic.

Baseless vitriol? Really, people like you plant seeds, you are dangerous, you try and equate minor infractions and major infractions as equal, they are not equal, liberals are great at making up pathetic arguments such as yours because they have to be, they have no moral ground to stand on in this issue, it is not hard, if you are in the country illegally you need to go back to were you came from, apply for residency and jump through the same hopps I and many other legal aliens did to get there and no amount of bullshit spewed forth from your pie hole will ever change that kid! None.

You are the one who was frothing at the mouth that "liberals love to break the law if it suits their narrative and I hate them for that!". Don't get angry at me for pointing out the obvious hypocrisy. We all bend the rules when it suits us.

And there's nothing pathetic about my arguments. They're pragmatic and based in the real world. Unless you're advocating mass round-ups, illegals are in the US to stay, and allowing them to engage with police and other authorities without fear of deportation and breaking up of families is the realistic AND moral position to hold.

There is no obvious hypocrisy 70, and I have never foamed at the mouth, I simply hate liberal politics in the states, it is repugnant to me, thats all.

There is no morality is illegality! Nop! Zip! Nada! Zilch!

You can squirm all you want, you can make out you have the moral high ground if you want but the fact is you advocate breaking the law to suit your political agenda and you have no morals on this issue!

[J70]

You are the one who was frothing at the mouth that "liberals love to break the law if it suits their narrative and I hate them for that!". Don't get angry at me for pointing out the obvious hypocrisy. We all bend the rules when it suits us.

And there's nothing pathetic about my arguments. They're pragmatic and based in the real world. Unless you're advocating mass round-ups, illegals are in the US to stay, and allowing them to engage with police and other authorities without fear of deportation and breaking up of families is the realistic AND moral position to hold.

There is no obvious hypocrisy 70, and I have never foamed at the mouth, I simply hate liberal politics in the states, it is repugnant to me, thats all.

There is no morality is illegality! Nop! Zip! Nada! Zilch!

You can squirm all you want, you can make out you have the moral high ground if you want but the fact is you advocate breaking the law to suit your political agenda and you have no morals on this issue!

Who's squirming stew? I'm giving you logical, factual responses. And I'm hardly the first one here to pass comment on your over-the-top angry tone when it comes to liberals. You're not very self-aware if you don't see how you come across. And my hypocrisy comment stands. You made a blanket comment about liberals and breaking the law when it suits them, as if it was a characteristic of that particular group.

As for morality and illegality, abortion is legal in the states. So is the death penalty in most states. Is support of those unequivocally moral?

Which is moral and which is immoral: Ireland which has no death penalty, or the US states that do?

So legal/illegal is NOT the same as moral/immoral. Sometimes the law is an ass.

It is rather noticeable that yourself and foxcommander have failed completely to address the logic of my position, instead clinging to silly black/white, legal/illegal, unrealistic absolutism.

And once again, advocating that people be allowed to approach the cops for help or to assist them, or that they seek help against exploitation by unscrupulous abusers or whatever, without fear of deportation, is a very moral position that helps real live individuals.

[Gabriel_Hurl]

He's back to questioning Obama's birth certificate again. He's losing it.

[haranguerer]

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-42166663

Retweeting Jayda Fransen 

[Puckoon]

Matt Lauer gone from NBC's Today Show. There won't be an end I sight for this work place sexual misbehavior train

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Matt Lauer gone from NBC's Today Show. There won't be an end I sight for this work place sexual misbehavior train

Yeah it's pretty mental I still think we're in the early stages there is a lot more to come out over the coming months!

[Therealdonald]

Stew is 1 of them more American than an American type, forgets where he came from and from those around him probably went. Gets off the plane with his wide leg khaki chinos and his USA baseball cap. Makes me sick to my stomach.

[Puckoon]

Matt Lauer gone from NBC's Today Show. There won't be an end I sight for this work place sexual misbehavior train

Yeah it's pretty mental I still think we're in the early stages there is a lot more to come out over the coming months!

Talking with a friend (Trump supporter) this morning. He was rubbing his hands with glee with another one of the "dominos falling". President Domino is ok I guess.