The Many Faces of US Politics...

[Gabriel_Hurl]

Comey gives his spiel tomorrow. Should be very interesting.

Not until Thursday

[J70]

Stew is still hanging on his "Trump is a Democrat" nonsense??

Is he a conservative?

He is one of you lot, get over it. )

Tell us how stew?

Is it the demonization of muslims and illegal immigrants?

Is it the muslim travel ban?

Is it the wall which will supposedly be paid for by Mexico?

Is it the opening of federal lands to coal, oil and mineral extraction?

Is it the pulling out of the Paris agreement basically to give the middle finger to the world?

Is it the defunding of any health or women's aid he can if there's even a tenuous connection to abortion or abortion information?

Is it the coming change of federal support from public school systems to private?

Is it the appointment of a textbook originalist jurist to the Supreme Court?

Is it the cozying up to Putin?

Is it the ignoring of any atrocity which happens to target muslims?

Is it the idiotic lack of self awareness in he and his family falsely targeting the muslim Mayor of London?

Is it the right hand man position given to probably the most well known enthusiast of so-called "alt-right" or white supremacist white, male persecution complex movement?

Is it the desire to abolish Obamacare and leave the poor and sick to struggle for the benefit of the rich?

Is it the proposals to dramatically lower taxes for the rich?

Is it the proposal to privatize the air traffic control industry?

How many of these positions and proposals and the many other statements and proposals to come are from the liberal or Democratic agenda?

War is peace. Freedom is slavery. Ignorance is strength.

[seafoid]

Comey gives his spiel tomorrow. Should be very interesting.

Not until Thursday

Thanks.

It's going to be worth watching
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wnUpjZUpDng

[stew]

Stew is still hanging on his "Trump is a Democrat" nonsense??

Is he a conservative?

He is one of you lot, get over it. )

Tell us how stew? OK snowflake, here goes.

Is it the demonization of muslims and illegal immigrants?

There is no demonization of muslims and illegal immigrants, he does not want people who have traveled to certain middle eastern countries to gain entry to the United States, it matters not what religion or secular beliefs they hold. As for illegal aliens in his country, the word illegal kind of gives a certain legitimacy to the fact he wants these illegals the f**k out of his country.

Is it the muslim travel ban?

There is no Muslim travel ban, that is a liberal term designed to incite hatred of the POTUS and the liberal sheep eat that shit up.

Is it the wall which will supposedly be paid for by Mexico?

He wants to keep illegal people out of his country, I applaud him for that, he is going about it the wrong way, how many people did Obama deport 70???

Is it the opening of federal lands to coal, oil and mineral extraction?

I seem to recall Obama giving an entire nation of native Americans a hard time over a pipeline, they are politicans and they can be disgusting bastards no matter red or blue.

Is it the pulling out of the Paris agreement basically to give the middle finger to the world?

He did not like the deal he was stuck with and is entitled to try and barter a new one, a better one for his country is he not?

Is it the defunding of any health or women's aid he can if there's even a tenuous connection to abortion or abortion information?

He has flipped flopped on this issue several times, further proof he was a liberal until he saw an opportunity on the right and took it, he is at heart one of you lot and thatmakes me plenty happy. )
Is it the coming change of federal support from public school systems to private?

Is it the appointment of a textbook originalist jurist to the Supreme Court?

He can appoint whomever the hell he wants, your turds fucked up so much he can ram stam anybody into any position because he has the votes in the houses to do so.

Is it the cozying up to Putin?

Hmmmmm, so two superpower leaders find one piece of common ground and hopefully will eradicate the evil muslim scum tearing up Europe by working together, is there a downside here? The better the Russians and Americans get along the better for the planet.

Is it the ignoring of any atrocity which happens to target muslims?

He has condemned all terrorist acts, what more do you want?

Is it the idiotic lack of self awareness in he and his family falsely targeting the muslim Mayor of London?

He is naive politically and has made a ton of mistakes, no more than thaat last dickhead in chief at the same juncture.

Is it the right hand man position given to probably the most well known enthusiast of so-called "alt-right" or white supremacist white, male persecution complex movement?

You are full of shit on this score.

Is it the desire to abolish Obamacare and leave the poor and sick to struggle for the benefit of the rich?


Obamacare is a disaster, he has made it worse and needs to make it better and right soon to!

Is it the proposals to dramatically lower taxes for the rich?

He believes that the rich invest big money and drive the economy with the savings they get on taxes, he is entitled to that belief and would happen to know a thing or two about taxation and the law around taxation and what a rich man can do with such funds. Go bankrupt for example!

Is it the proposal to privatize the air traffic control industry?

This is one of the worst proposals I have ever heard.

How many of these positions and proposals and the many other statements and proposals to come are from the liberal or Democratic agenda?

Well Obama wanted illegals out of the states and kicked  a lot out, the left have gone soft on taxation of the rich and they have fucked up universal healthcare, so they have that in common, follw the money kid, follow the money he gave in political donations and get back to me on his political leanings, most of it went to liberal causes, if he was such a conservative how do you justify that?
War is peace. Freedom is slavery. Ignorance is strength.

[omochain]

Stew. You are entitled to your belief system!!. But you need to use a few more facts to back up your abhorrence of Obama and the Democrats if you want me to take you seriously .
Make up your mind if you love or despise the Great Deal maker😂. He is the one who uses the term "Travel Ban" .
He pulled out of the Paris "deal" to renegotiate it. Well no one can do a deal like him I suppose. The fool did not realize that there was nothing to renegotiate; the targets are all self set and voluntary. But why waste an opportunity to Grandstand needlessly and piss off the rest of the planet when you can roll back the aspirations of the agreement with a stroke of the pen. He ran his casinos the same way and look what happened there.
As for Trump being a Democrat.. you are a wee bit right. He was a Democrat but decided that he would never have a chance of getting nominated to run for anything by Democrats so he became a Republican. They nominated him to run for President. He ran for President as a Republican, they voted for him and he won.  Therefore he is a Republican... currently the leader of the Republican Party....Fact

[stew]

Stew. You are entitled to your belief system!!. But you need to use a few more facts to back up your abhorrence of Obama and the Democrats if you want me to take you seriously .
Make up your mind if you love or despise the Great Deal maker😂. He is the one who uses the term "Travel Ban" .
He pulled out of the Paris "deal" to renegotiate it. Well no one can do a deal like him I suppose. The fool did not realize that there was nothing to renegotiate; the targets are all self set and voluntary. But why waste an opportunity to Grandstand needlessly and piss off the rest of the planet when you can roll back the aspirations of the agreement with a stroke of the pen. He ran his casinos the same way and look what happened there.
As for Trump being a Democrat.. you are a wee bit right. He was a Democrat but decided that he would never have a chance of getting nominated to run for anything by Democrats so he became a Republican. They nominated him to run for President. He ran for President as a Republican, they voted for him and he won.  Therefore he is a Republican... currently the leader of the Republican Party....Fact

I dont like Trump, he is a complete and utter bollocks, I was just delighted the cheating left lost because I hate the cheating left with a passion, I went to the states a Democrat but they turn my stomach nowadays, that said Trump is a bad un, always was always will be, he just happens to be better than Clinton, a **** of the loweast order.

I dont care if you take me seriously or not, heres a fact for you, Obama added more to the national debt in eight years than every other President combined!

He never did ban Muslims, he banned people that had been in countries that he saw as aiding and abetting the radicalization of people, helping them become extremists and he does not want them in his country, I have no problem with that, but call me when he actually bans Muslims and we will talk.

Why grandstand? Really? Because he is so far up his own hole he thinks he is impervious to retribution for whatever comes out of his pie hole.

As for me being a wee bit right, I am 100% right, he was a democrat and ran as a republican because he saw an opportunity and ran with it.

I tell you what, I will post a few facts on the former Prez, your hero Obama for ya in a wee bit here, the man was a clown and he is part of the reason Clinton lost to Trump.

[stew]

Here is Part one of the nighmare that was BO for you Omochain.
The Obama administration has been marred by debt, scandals, foreign policy failures, and an overall fragmentation of this country. He has plunged the United States into an abyss of economic debt that will create generations of American servitude paying off his wayward spending endeavors. The Red, White and Blue's epitaph will read like a litany of failures perpetrated on both the American people and the world by this president:

Scandals:

IRS targets Obama's enemies

Benghazi

Spying on the AP

The ATF "Fast and Furious" scheme

Sebelius demands payment

The Pigford Agriculture Department Scandal

The General Services Administration Las Vegas Spending Spree.

Veterans Affairs in Disney World and neglecting vets

Solyndra

New Black Panthers Voter Intimidation

The hacking of Sharyl Attkisson's computer

Obama's LIES about the Affordable Care Act

"I'll Pass My Own Laws"

NSA Spying on American People

The failure in Iran, I could go on and on, the man was one of the worst of all time, a horrendous President who failed both foreign policy wise as well as Domestically.

[J70]

Stew is still hanging on his "Trump is a Democrat" nonsense??

Is he a conservative?

He is one of you lot, get over it. )

Tell us how stew? OK snowflake, here goes.

Snowflake? FFS!

Is it the demonization of muslims and illegal immigrants?

There is no demonization of muslims and illegal immigrants, he does not want people who have traveled to certain middle eastern countries to gain entry to the United States, it matters not what religion or secular beliefs they hold. As for illegal aliens in his country, the word illegal kind of gives a certain legitimacy to the fact he wants these illegals the f**k out of his country.

Of course there was and is demonization. The Mexican rapists, the campaign rhetoric about banning ALL muslims.

Is it the muslim travel ban?

There is no Muslim travel ban, that is a liberal term designed to incite hatred of the POTUS and the liberal sheep eat that shit up.

You must have missed where Giuliani admitted on Fox News that the travel ban was basically put together as way to legally prevent muslims from entering the US. It was as close as they could get to a muslim ban. Giuliani's remit was "we want a muslim ban: find some way to do it legally".

Is it the wall which will supposedly be paid for by Mexico?

He wants to keep illegal people out of his country, I applaud him for that, he is going about it the wrong way, how many people did Obama deport 70???

Obama deported plenty, but focused on criminals and those caught near the border. Trump is going after EVERYONE, and doesn't give a shit how long they've been here. He sent his goons into a school in my neighbourhood a couple of weeks back looking for a fourth grader!

Is it the opening of federal lands to coal, oil and mineral extraction?

I seem to recall Obama giving an entire nation of native Americans a hard time over a pipeline, they are politicans and they can be disgusting b**tards no matter red or blue.

Obama suspended construction of that pipeline. Trump immediately reactivated it (no connection to the fact that the CEO of the company was a substantial contributor to his campaign, no doubt!). But Obama also expanded the amount of protected federal land dramatically, while Trump wants to open up everything, including the Artic National Wildlife Refuge and even parts of the Grand Canyon to exploitation.

Is it the pulling out of the Paris agreement basically to give the middle finger to the world?

He did not like the deal he was stuck with and is entitled to try and barter a new one, a better one for his country is he not?

Of course he is. But that action was not the action of a liberal/Democrat.

Is it the defunding of any health or women's aid he can if there's even a tenuous connection to abortion or abortion information?

He has flipped flopped on this issue several times, further proof he was a liberal until he saw an opportunity on the right and took it, he is at heart one of you lot and thatmakes me plenty happy. )

If true, why would this make you happy?

Is it the coming change of federal support from public school systems to private?

Is it the appointment of a textbook originalist jurist to the Supreme Court?

He can appoint whomever the hell he wants, your turds fucked up so much he can ram stam anybody into any position because he has the votes in the houses to do so.

I don't think anyone is arguing that he can or cannot do it. The point here is whether he is a liberal/Democrat or a conservative/Republican.

Is it the cozying up to Putin?

Hmmmmm, so two superpower leaders find one piece of common ground and hopefully will eradicate the evil muslim scum tearing up Europe by working together, is there a downside here? The better the Russians and Americans get along the better for the planet.

No doubt, but the Dems have hardly been buddies with Putin, while the right wing (less so mainstreamers like McCain) have been gushing over Putin's strong man act for quite a while now.

Is it the ignoring of any atrocity which happens to target muslims?

He has condemned all terrorist acts, what more do you want?

He jumps right on acts of terror by muslims. He belatedly (and often through the handled twitter feed) offer bland comments on acts of terror targeting muslims, usually after being criticized for a lack of response. See Quebec, Kansas and Portland for recent examples.

Is it the idiotic lack of self awareness in he and his family falsely targeting the muslim Mayor of London?

He is naive politically and has made a ton of mistakes, no more than thaat last d**khead in chief at the same juncture.

There is nothing naïve about making up shit to appeal to his base. He blatantly lied and misrepresented what the mayor of London said, purely for political gain.

Is it the right hand man position given to probably the most well known enthusiast of so-called "alt-right" or white supremacist white, male persecution complex movement?

You are full of shit on this score.

Bannon DOESN'T have a highly influential role in the White House?

Is it the desire to abolish Obamacare and leave the poor and sick to struggle for the benefit of the rich?

Obamacare is a disaster, he has made it worse and needs to make it better and right soon to!

How is he going to make it better (he promised better and cheaper, whatever magic beans he is going to use for that one!).

Is it the proposals to dramatically lower taxes for the rich?

He believes that the rich invest big money and drive the economy with the savings they get on taxes, he is entitled to that belief and would happen to know a thing or two about taxation and the law around taxation and what a rich man can do with such funds. Go bankrupt for example!

Once again stew, the issue is not the beliefs and actions per se, but whether they're the positions of a man who is a liberal/Democrat.

Is it the proposal to privatize the air traffic control industry?

This is one of the worst proposals I have ever heard.

Maybe so, but see previous answer.

How many of these positions and proposals and the many other statements and proposals to come are from the liberal or Democratic agenda?

Well Obama wanted illegals out of the states and kicked  a lot out, the left have gone soft on taxation of the rich and they have fucked up universal healthcare, so they have that in common, follw the money kid, follow the money he gave in political donations and get back to me on his political leanings, most of it went to liberal causes, if he was such a conservative how do you justify that?

Quite simple stew, and we've gone over this a number of times, you and me, but you refuse to acknowledge the point.

Trump contributes to and buys off whatever politicians of whatever party he feels he needs to to grease the wheels for himself and his companies. In the NY tristate area and Chicago, those will be Democrats. Elsewhere, Republicans. His contributions have swung dramatically towards Republicans in recent years as he has cultivated what eventually turned into his presidential campaign and election.

Personally, I don't believe he gives a f**k about any political position or concept or theory that doesn't affect his personal bottom line and self-aggrandizement. I'm sure if he felt he could have swung it, he would have pursued the Democratic nomination. But (and he is on record regarding this from nearly 20 years ago) he saw that the right wing was much more receptive to demagoguery and scapegoating, and he is willing to say anything and hurt anyone just so he can be president. I'm sure there is a bit of personal animus in there too to stick it to Obama for humiliating him all those years ago.

Your continued insistence that this man is really a liberal and/or Democrat is just ludicrous in the face of the actual policies he is pursuing and the obvious fact that the only principals he really possesses extend no further than his own narcissism and ego. Even above, you're mostly reflexively mounting a defense of what Trump does, losing sight of the fact that the point is that he is NOT a liberal or Democrat and that the stuff he is doing is completely from the Republican side of the political spectrum.

[J70]

Here is Part one of the nighmare that was BO for you Omochain.
The Obama administration has been marred by debt, scandals, foreign policy failures, and an overall fragmentation of this country. He has plunged the United States into an abyss of economic debt that will create generations of American servitude paying off his wayward spending endeavors. The Red, White and Blue's epitaph will read like a litany of failures perpetrated on both the American people and the world by this president:

Scandals:

IRS targets Obama's enemies

Benghazi

Spying on the AP

The ATF "Fast and Furious" scheme

Sebelius demands payment

The Pigford Agriculture Department Scandal

The General Services Administration Las Vegas Spending Spree.

Veterans Affairs in Disney World and neglecting vets

Solyndra

New Black Panthers Voter Intimidation

The hacking of Sharyl Attkisson's computer

Obama's LIES about the Affordable Care Act

"I'll Pass My Own Laws"

NSA Spying on American People

The failure in Iran, I could go on and on, the man was one of the worst of all time, a horrendous President who failed both foreign policy wise as well as Domestically.

You could at least credit the man you ripped the above from stew.

Unless you're really Stephen Martino??
http://www.martinoauthor.com/list-obama-failures/

[omochain]

Jeezz Stew.. I'm an "ould" man .. I do not have the energy to debunk each of Martino's points so let's take Benghazi.  I believe 2 years of Republican congressional investigations cleared her without ever mentioning the underlying cause that left the Benghazi diplomatic mission so exposed. THE REPUBLICANS CUT FUNDING TO THE STATE DEPARTMENT. They did not have enough money for adequate protection.

Obama is a decent, thoughtful, intelligent gentleman who tried his best in the face of obdurate Republican obstructionism. He pulled the economy out of the ditch, did a pretty good job at pushing the Healthcare system in the right direction and was the model for the highest standards of family values.

For lots of Folks though...he does have one big drawback.

[J70]

Rumours now that the colossal tosser is pissed off and fed up with Sessions, of all people!

[Gmac]

How does bill Maher still have his show on hbo after using the n word last Friday ?

[foxcommander]

"Obama is a decent, thoughtful, intelligent gentleman who tried his best in the face of obdurate Republican obstructionism. He pulled the economy out of the ditch, did a pretty good job at pushing the Healthcare system in the right direction and was the model for the highest standards of family values.

For lots of Folks though...he does have one big drawback."

If you mean his furthering of certain agendas you'd be correct. 8 years of dismantling america. Great Job.
That man wouldn't know decent if it kicked him repeatedly in the nuts.

Now we know you're on the serious wind up!

[Gabriel_Hurl]

Stealing money destined to go to a kids charity

https://www.forbes.com/sites/danalexander/2017/06/06/how-donald-trump-shifted-kids-cancer-charity-money-into-his-business/#7b7fb1bc6b4a

[J70]

"Obama is a decent, thoughtful, intelligent gentleman who tried his best in the face of obdurate Republican obstructionism. He pulled the economy out of the ditch, did a pretty good job at pushing the Healthcare system in the right direction and was the model for the highest standards of family values.

For lots of Folks though...he does have one big drawback."

If you mean his furthering of certain agendas you'd be correct. 8 years of dismantling america. Great Job.
That man wouldn't know decent if it kicked him repeatedly in the nuts.

Now we know you're on the serious wind up!

What "agendas"?