The Many Faces of US Politics...

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J70

Quote from: whitey on May 02, 2017, 12:43:57 AM
Quote from: J70 on May 02, 2017, 12:08:35 AM
Quote from: whitey on May 01, 2017, 11:48:20 PM
Quote from: J70 on May 01, 2017, 11:20:38 PM
Quote from: whitey on April 30, 2017, 07:32:50 PM
Quote from: J70 on April 29, 2017, 11:56:01 AM
Quote from: whitey on April 29, 2017, 12:54:55 AM
Trump was a clown candidate (and still is a clown) but in an attempt to get Hillary elected the lame stream media gave him in the region of $5B in free advertising.

http://www.cnbc.com/2016/09/30/breakingviews-trump-cold-shoulder-for-tv-ads-may-set-the-trend.html

(And it backfired spectacularly on them)

Speaking of clowns.  ::)

Haha......they must be fvcking furious with themselves.  Too cute by half, and now its all has come tumbling back on top of them.  The NY Times couldnt even accurately report on the Patriots trip to the White House without fvking up again

Well sure if its all about the media, why isn't the other half of the country up in arms over Fox, talk radio and all the rest of the cynical spoofers spreading lies and delusion from the perspective of the right? Why is it only the "lame stream media" who apparently wield such malign and self-defeating influence?

You're dead right....it's a sad day when The NY Times is just about as credible as Fox News.....blatantly lying and making shit up in order to tip the scale in favor of one party over the other.

A news organization can have an editorial slant and point of view/favoured perspective while still being credible.

Come back to us when Fox takes back/retracts even a sampling of the outright lies and bullshit they throw out daily.

Although, it looks like the younger Murdochs aren't quite as bereft of conscience as the auld fella...

Of course they can have "biases", but when the NY Times flat out makes shit up and actively colludes with the campaign of one candidate over another, then they have about as much credibilty as Fox News.

What did they make up?

whitey

Quote from: J70 on May 02, 2017, 02:49:29 AM
Quote from: whitey on May 02, 2017, 12:43:57 AM
Quote from: J70 on May 02, 2017, 12:08:35 AM
Quote from: whitey on May 01, 2017, 11:48:20 PM
Quote from: J70 on May 01, 2017, 11:20:38 PM
Quote from: whitey on April 30, 2017, 07:32:50 PM
Quote from: J70 on April 29, 2017, 11:56:01 AM
Quote from: whitey on April 29, 2017, 12:54:55 AM
Trump was a clown candidate (and still is a clown) but in an attempt to get Hillary elected the lame stream media gave him in the region of $5B in free advertising.

http://www.cnbc.com/2016/09/30/breakingviews-trump-cold-shoulder-for-tv-ads-may-set-the-trend.html

(And it backfired spectacularly on them)

Speaking of clowns.  ::)

Haha......they must be fvcking furious with themselves.  Too cute by half, and now its all has come tumbling back on top of them.  The NY Times couldnt even accurately report on the Patriots trip to the White House without fvking up again

Well sure if its all about the media, why isn't the other half of the country up in arms over Fox, talk radio and all the rest of the cynical spoofers spreading lies and delusion from the perspective of the right? Why is it only the "lame stream media" who apparently wield such malign and self-defeating influence?

You're dead right....it's a sad day when The NY Times is just about as credible as Fox News.....blatantly lying and making shit up in order to tip the scale in favor of one party over the other.

A news organization can have an editorial slant and point of view/favoured perspective while still being credible.

Come back to us when Fox takes back/retracts even a sampling of the outright lies and bullshit they throw out daily.

Although, it looks like the younger Murdochs aren't quite as bereft of conscience as the auld fella...

Of course they can have "biases", but when the NY Times flat out makes shit up and actively colludes with the campaign of one candidate over another, then they have about as much credibilty as Fox News.

What did they make up?

This is pretty scary (and scandalous) for a start

http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/news/how-the-new-york-times-sandbagged-bernie-sanders-20160315

NetNitrate

Quote from: whitey on May 02, 2017, 03:41:55 AM
Quote from: J70 on May 02, 2017, 02:49:29 AM
Quote from: whitey on May 02, 2017, 12:43:57 AM
Quote from: J70 on May 02, 2017, 12:08:35 AM
Quote from: whitey on May 01, 2017, 11:48:20 PM
Quote from: J70 on May 01, 2017, 11:20:38 PM
Quote from: whitey on April 30, 2017, 07:32:50 PM
Quote from: J70 on April 29, 2017, 11:56:01 AM
Quote from: whitey on April 29, 2017, 12:54:55 AM
Trump was a clown candidate (and still is a clown) but in an attempt to get Hillary elected the lame stream media gave him in the region of $5B in free advertising.

http://www.cnbc.com/2016/09/30/breakingviews-trump-cold-shoulder-for-tv-ads-may-set-the-trend.html

(And it backfired spectacularly on them)

Speaking of clowns.  ::)

Haha......they must be fvcking furious with themselves.  Too cute by half, and now its all has come tumbling back on top of them.  The NY Times couldnt even accurately report on the Patriots trip to the White House without fvking up again

Well sure if its all about the media, why isn't the other half of the country up in arms over Fox, talk radio and all the rest of the cynical spoofers spreading lies and delusion from the perspective of the right? Why is it only the "lame stream media" who apparently wield such malign and self-defeating influence?

You're dead right....it's a sad day when The NY Times is just about as credible as Fox News.....blatantly lying and making shit up in order to tip the scale in favor of one party over the other.

A news organization can have an editorial slant and point of view/favoured perspective while still being credible.

Come back to us when Fox takes back/retracts even a sampling of the outright lies and bullshit they throw out daily.

Although, it looks like the younger Murdochs aren't quite as bereft of conscience as the auld fella...

Of course they can have "biases", but when the NY Times flat out makes shit up and actively colludes with the campaign of one candidate over another, then they have about as much credibilty as Fox News.

What did they make up?

This is pretty scary (and scandalous) for a start

http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/news/how-the-new-york-times-sandbagged-bernie-sanders-20160315

I think you'll find it was the New York Times that broke the Clinton private server story - probably the one thing that caused her the election. The Rolling Stone magazine has long lost credibility in the news stakes. Even in music, it was bought by the record companies.


seafoid

There wasn't one thing that sank Clinton.

She didn't connect with working class voters.
She was wooden.
She was arrogant.
She was not the best candidate.
She kept on insisting the economy was doing well
She underestimated Trump

foxcommander

Quote from: Eamonnca1 on May 02, 2017, 12:43:03 AM
Quote from: foxcommander on May 01, 2017, 11:25:55 PM
Maybe because the lies and delusion are exclusive to the left/democrat media?

Oh. Sweet. Jesus.

So going by your reaction can I get a yes or no answer to the following question please (I don't require a vague rambling)

Do the left/democrat media (CNN/MSNBC etc.) tell lies?




Every second of the day there's a Democrat telling a lie

screenexile

The best way to Make America Great Again is a good 'ol Government shutdown!

seafoid

Quote from: foxcommander on May 02, 2017, 02:34:40 PM
Quote from: Eamonnca1 on May 02, 2017, 12:43:03 AM
Quote from: foxcommander on May 01, 2017, 11:25:55 PM
Maybe because the lies and delusion are exclusive to the left/democrat media?

Oh. Sweet. Jesus.

So going by your reaction can I get a yes or no answer to the following question please (I don't require a vague rambling)

Do the left/democrat media (CNN/MSNBC etc.) tell lies?
They do of course but it's not fantasy like Fox

foxcommander

Quote from: seafoid on May 02, 2017, 04:02:05 PM
Quote from: foxcommander on May 02, 2017, 02:34:40 PM
Quote from: Eamonnca1 on May 02, 2017, 12:43:03 AM
Quote from: foxcommander on May 01, 2017, 11:25:55 PM
Maybe because the lies and delusion are exclusive to the left/democrat media?

Oh. Sweet. Jesus.

So going by your reaction can I get a yes or no answer to the following question please (I don't require a vague rambling)

Do the left/democrat media (CNN/MSNBC etc.) tell lies?
They do of course but it's not fantasy like Fox

The question is for Eamon but thanks for playing.
Every second of the day there's a Democrat telling a lie

seafoid

Quote from: foxcommander on May 02, 2017, 04:18:23 PM
Quote from: seafoid on May 02, 2017, 04:02:05 PM
Quote from: foxcommander on May 02, 2017, 02:34:40 PM
Quote from: Eamonnca1 on May 02, 2017, 12:43:03 AM
Quote from: foxcommander on May 01, 2017, 11:25:55 PM
Maybe because the lies and delusion are exclusive to the left/democrat media?

Oh. Sweet. Jesus.

So going by your reaction can I get a yes or no answer to the following question please (I don't require a vague rambling)

Do the left/democrat media (CNN/MSNBC etc.) tell lies?
They do of course but it's not fantasy like Fox

The question is for Eamon but thanks for playing.
Is Fox credible ?


omochain

Quote from: foxcommander on May 02, 2017, 04:18:23 PM
Quote from: seafoid on May 02, 2017, 04:02:05 PM
Quote from: foxcommander on May 02, 2017, 02:34:40 PM
Quote from: Eamonnca1 on May 02, 2017, 12:43:03 AM
Quote from: foxcommander on May 01, 2017, 11:25:55 PM
Maybe because the lies and delusion are exclusive to the left/democrat media?

Oh. Sweet. Jesus.

So going by your reaction can I get a yes or no answer to the following question please (I don't require a vague rambling)

Do the left/democrat media (CNN/MSNBC etc.) tell lies?
They do of course but it's not fantasy like Fox

The question is for Eamon but thanks for playing.

Don't be playing into this troll's hands. The right use this "false equivalency" BS continuously to justify their positions. It has been very effective, they have managed to cast centrist political views as being leftist. In a Fair and Balanced" way of course.

whitey

Quote from: NetNitrate on May 02, 2017, 03:56:57 AM
Quote from: whitey on May 02, 2017, 03:41:55 AM
Quote from: J70 on May 02, 2017, 02:49:29 AM
Quote from: whitey on May 02, 2017, 12:43:57 AM
Quote from: J70 on May 02, 2017, 12:08:35 AM
Quote from: whitey on May 01, 2017, 11:48:20 PM
Quote from: J70 on May 01, 2017, 11:20:38 PM
Quote from: whitey on April 30, 2017, 07:32:50 PM
Quote from: J70 on April 29, 2017, 11:56:01 AM
Quote from: whitey on April 29, 2017, 12:54:55 AM
Trump was a clown candidate (and still is a clown) but in an attempt to get Hillary elected the lame stream media gave him in the region of $5B in free advertising.

http://www.cnbc.com/2016/09/30/breakingviews-trump-cold-shoulder-for-tv-ads-may-set-the-trend.html

(And it backfired spectacularly on them)

Speaking of clowns.  ::)

Haha......they must be fvcking furious with themselves.  Too cute by half, and now its all has come tumbling back on top of them.  The NY Times couldnt even accurately report on the Patriots trip to the White House without fvking up again

Well sure if its all about the media, why isn't the other half of the country up in arms over Fox, talk radio and all the rest of the cynical spoofers spreading lies and delusion from the perspective of the right? Why is it only the "lame stream media" who apparently wield such malign and self-defeating influence?

You're dead right....it's a sad day when The NY Times is just about as credible as Fox News.....blatantly lying and making shit up in order to tip the scale in favor of one party over the other.

A news organization can have an editorial slant and point of view/favoured perspective while still being credible.

Come back to us when Fox takes back/retracts even a sampling of the outright lies and bullshit they throw out daily.

Although, it looks like the younger Murdochs aren't quite as bereft of conscience as the auld fella...

Of course they can have "biases", but when the NY Times flat out makes shit up and actively colludes with the campaign of one candidate over another, then they have about as much credibilty as Fox News.

What did they make up?

This is pretty scary (and scandalous) for a start

http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/news/how-the-new-york-times-sandbagged-bernie-sanders-20160315

I think you'll find it was the New York Times that broke the Clinton private server story - probably the one thing that caused her the election. The Rolling Stone magazine has long lost credibility in the news stakes. Even in music, it was bought by the record companies.

So because you do not hold Rolling Stone in high regard this "editing" that occurred is a non issue?

Fair enough, but how in Gods name can they hold themselves out as a legitimate NEWS outlet if they carry on like this

foxcommander

Quote from: omochain on May 02, 2017, 04:48:02 PM
Quote from: foxcommander on May 02, 2017, 04:18:23 PM
Quote from: seafoid on May 02, 2017, 04:02:05 PM
Quote from: foxcommander on May 02, 2017, 02:34:40 PM
Quote from: Eamonnca1 on May 02, 2017, 12:43:03 AM
Quote from: foxcommander on May 01, 2017, 11:25:55 PM
Maybe because the lies and delusion are exclusive to the left/democrat media?

Oh. Sweet. Jesus.

So going by your reaction can I get a yes or no answer to the following question please (I don't require a vague rambling)

Do the left/democrat media (CNN/MSNBC etc.) tell lies?
They do of course but it's not fantasy like Fox

The question is for Eamon but thanks for playing.

Don't be playing into this troll's hands. The right use this "false equivalency" BS continuously to justify their positions. It has been very effective, they have managed to cast centrist political views as being leftist. In a Fair and Balanced" way of course.

Troll? I've asked a straightforward question.
We have a difference of opinion so I want to see what he thinks.
Every second of the day there's a Democrat telling a lie

Eamonnca1

Oh I'm done playing this troll's games. He's obviously a WUM. Nobody could be that brainwashed by the right wing propaganda machine.

foxcommander

Quote from: Eamonnca1 on May 02, 2017, 05:42:13 PM
Oh I'm done playing this troll's games. He's obviously a WUM. Nobody could be that brainwashed by the right wing propaganda machine.

It was a simple Yes or No


Every second of the day there's a Democrat telling a lie