The Many Faces of US Politics...

[LeoMc]

The so-called Alt-Right, Infowars and all the rest of them deserting Trump in droves, crying "false flag" (not before blaming it all on Hillary and Soros though ).

He did P155 off their paymaster. Vladimir not happy about it as he got no advance warning as Bannon was not in place.

[LeoMc]

There's was some knob on MSNBC this morning blaming Trump for "emboldening Assad". He indicated that's what led to the Aaron gas attack not Obama and Hillary doing fvck all for the past 5 years

So his long list of tweets saying the US would not get involved wouldn't have emboldened Assad?
Maybe his unpredictability will turn out to be a strength in Foreign policy. The missile launches could be a message to Beijing to rein in North Korea as he may not ask their permission either.

[whitey]

There's was some knob on MSNBC this morning blaming Trump for "emboldening Assad". He indicated that's what led to the Aaron gas attack not Obama and Hillary doing fvck all for the past 5 years

So his long list of tweets saying the US would not get involved wouldn't have emboldened Assad?
Maybe his unpredictability will turn out to be a strength in Foreign policy. The missile launches could be a message to Beijing to rein in North Korea as he may not ask their permission either.

That's quite a stretch.....since when does a tweet become official foreign policy?

Imho Obama's inaction on prior chemical weapons attacks is what emboldened him. 

[Esmarelda]

There's was some knob on MSNBC this morning blaming Trump for "emboldening Assad". He indicated that's what led to the Aaron gas attack not Obama and Hillary doing fvck all for the past 5 years

So his long list of tweets saying the US would not get involved wouldn't have emboldened Assad?
Maybe his unpredictability will turn out to be a strength in Foreign policy. The missile launches could be a message to Beijing to rein in North Korea as he may not ask their permission either.

That's quite a stretch.....since when does a tweet become official foreign policy?

Imho Obama's inaction on prior chemical weapons attacks is what emboldened him.

Which prior attacks? The ones in 2013 on the day the inspectors arrived?

[whitey]

There's was some knob on MSNBC this morning blaming Trump for "emboldening Assad". He indicated that's what led to the Aaron gas attack not Obama and Hillary doing fvck all for the past 5 years

So his long list of tweets saying the US would not get involved wouldn't have emboldened Assad?
Maybe his unpredictability will turn out to be a strength in Foreign policy. The missile launches could be a message to Beijing to rein in North Korea as he may not ask their permission either.

That's quite a stretch.....since when does a tweet become official foreign policy?

Imho Obama's inaction on prior chemical weapons attacks is what emboldened him.

Which prior attacks? The ones in 2013 on the day the inspectors arrived?

Yes... he stated that a chemical weapons attack was a red line, yet when Assad used them he did nothing

[Hardy]

There's was some knob on MSNBC this morning blaming Trump for "emboldening Assad". He indicated that's what led to the Aaron gas attack not Obama and Hillary doing fvck all for the past 5 years

So his long list of tweets saying the US would not get involved wouldn't have emboldened Assad?
Maybe his unpredictability will turn out to be a strength in Foreign policy. The missile launches could be a message to Beijing to rein in North Korea as he may not ask their permission either.

That's quite a stretch.....since when does a tweet become official foreign policy?

Imho Obama's inaction on prior chemical weapons attacks is what emboldened him.

Which prior attacks? The ones in 2013 on the day the inspectors arrived?

Yes... he stated that a chemical weapons attack was a red line, yet when Assad used them he did nothing

OK. I get it. Assad waited until Obama left office to be emboldened by Obama.

[Hardy]

Funniest Sean Spicer sketch since that other funny one:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3RCcrt56tO0&t=7s

[Esmarelda]

There's was some knob on MSNBC this morning blaming Trump for "emboldening Assad". He indicated that's what led to the Aaron gas attack not Obama and Hillary doing fvck all for the past 5 years

So his long list of tweets saying the US would not get involved wouldn't have emboldened Assad?
Maybe his unpredictability will turn out to be a strength in Foreign policy. The missile launches could be a message to Beijing to rein in North Korea as he may not ask their permission either.

That's quite a stretch.....since when does a tweet become official foreign policy?

Imho Obama's inaction on prior chemical weapons attacks is what emboldened him.

Which prior attacks? The ones in 2013 on the day the inspectors arrived?

Yes... he stated that a chemical weapons attack was a red line, yet when Assad used them he did nothing

I was questioning whether Assad had carried out any previous chemical attacks on the day the UN inspectors were arriving. Makes about as much sense as carrying out this week's one.

[theskull1]

Mystifying why Assad would turn to chemical weapons at this point within the overall context of where the military and environment has moved to.

Is it though? Has used them before. Has Russian support and all indications up to now is that Trump supported him, while Obama was never going to intervene. He would have thought no consequences. Now he knows Trump could bomb without a minutes notice, make that 30 mins notice as Russia were informed first.

You have only to look at the US decision to use the Atomic bomb in 1945 when an American win was inevitable in the Pacific and with Japan on the retreat. A "practical" decision that came down to further American troop deaths in a slow fight to the finish v Japanese civilian deaths and a quicker end to the war.
There may have been "practicalities", including previous utterance on non-intervention, which made Chemical weapons the preferred option.

I think most people would have done the same as Truman when presented with the same dilemma.

[seafoid]

The Russians may have lured Trump into a trap. He has no self discipline. He doesnt listen to anyone. He is easy to manipulate.

[LeoMc]

Mystifying why Assad would turn to chemical weapons at this point within the overall context of where the military and environment has moved to.

Is it though? Has used them before. Has Russian support and all indications up to now is that Trump supported him, while Obama was never going to intervene. He would have thought no consequences. Now he knows Trump could bomb without a minutes notice, make that 30 mins notice as Russia were informed first.

You have only to look at the US decision to use the Atomic bomb in 1945 when an American win was inevitable in the Pacific and with Japan on the retreat. A "practical" decision that came down to further American troop deaths in a slow fight to the finish v Japanese civilian deaths and a quicker end to the war.
There may have been "practicalities", including previous utterance on non-intervention, which made Chemical weapons the preferred option.

I think most people would have done the same as Truman when presented with the same dilemma.

I am not disputing that nor saying he was wrong. I was making the point in relation to the assertion that Assad would not use chemical weapons just because he was winning.

[Gmac]

Subdidise Wisconsin with what?

California does not have a pot to piss in!

California is the world's 6th biggest economy. It has a balanced budget and has done for years. Amazing what you can do with a Democratic governor and Dems in both houses of the assembly.

increasing the gas tax 43% should give Gerry plenty more money to waste

[whitey]

There's was some knob on MSNBC this morning blaming Trump for "emboldening Assad". He indicated that's what led to the Aaron gas attack not Obama and Hillary doing fvck all for the past 5 years

So his long list of tweets saying the US would not get involved wouldn't have emboldened Assad?
Maybe his unpredictability will turn out to be a strength in Foreign policy. The missile launches could be a message to Beijing to rein in North Korea as he may not ask their permission either.

That's quite a stretch.....since when does a tweet become official foreign policy?

Imho Obama's inaction on prior chemical weapons attacks is what emboldened him.

Which prior attacks? The ones in 2013 on the day the inspectors arrived?

Yes... he stated that a chemical weapons attack was a red line, yet when Assad used them he did nothing

I was questioning whether Assad had carried out any previous chemical attacks on the day the UN inspectors were arriving. Makes about as much sense as carrying out this week's one.

What the hell are you talking about? 

[omochain]

Subdidise Wisconsin with what?

California does not have a pot to piss in!

California is the world's 6th biggest economy. It has a balanced budget and has done for years. Amazing what you can do with a Democratic governor and Dems in both houses of the assembly.

increasing the gas tax 43% should give Gerry plenty more money to waste

Can you get nothing right.. the Governor of California is Jerry and other than the High Speed Rail project, the state is spending within its means. But you pull most of your BS from where the sun don't shine.

[whitey]

There's was some knob on MSNBC this morning blaming Trump for "emboldening Assad". He indicated that's what led to the Aaron gas attack not Obama and Hillary doing fvck all for the past 5 years

So his long list of tweets saying the US would not get involved wouldn't have emboldened Assad?
Maybe his unpredictability will turn out to be a strength in Foreign policy. The missile launches could be a message to Beijing to rein in North Korea as he may not ask their permission either.

That's quite a stretch.....since when does a tweet become official foreign policy?

Imho Obama's inaction on prior chemical weapons attacks is what emboldened him.

Which prior attacks? The ones in 2013 on the day the inspectors arrived?

Yes... he stated that a chemical weapons attack was a red line, yet when Assad used them he did nothing

OK. I get it. Assad waited until Obama left office to be emboldened by Obama.

Well given that  jug ears did fvck all about the first attack....yes that did embolden him.  But now he's dealing with Republicans who have no problem starting a war. Many of their supporters would have fvck all for doing if we weren't in a constant state of conflict