The Many Faces of US Politics...

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Hardy

Quote from: easytiger95 on March 03, 2017, 05:35:06 PM
Quote from: Hardy on March 02, 2017, 03:14:14 PM
Quote from: easytiger95 on March 02, 2017, 02:29:07 PM
Quote from: Hardy on March 01, 2017, 01:12:53 PM
Quote from: easytiger95 on March 01, 2017, 12:46:15 PM
I have just started reading Andrew Lees' "The Holocaust" - it's a detailed history of the philosophy behind, lead up to, and events of, the Holocaust.

I'm only 50 pages in and still on Hitler's rise, and on at least 10 occasions so far, I've been stunned by the parallels between Hitler's methodology and Trump's. It is petrifying.

BUT... and it's a big but...Hitler was clearly a true believer, an ideologue who quite clearly wanted to fashion the world to his vision. Trump quite clearly is not. I don't doubt that he is racist (his court records prove it) or anti-Semitic (his speech to that Jewish organization last year before the election was incredible) but he is also dumb and selfish. He has no philosophy and why get rid of Jews and blacks when you can make money off them? Immigrants and Muslims - just keep them out.

Hitler was a different kettle of fish. The question for us all now is, just what kind of men his aides are, because the only logical reason they are there is to wield power whilst he golfs.


I agree with that, easytiger, except that the relevant comparison is not that between Hitler and Trump but the one between Hitler and Bannon. Trump has no ideology that I can discern other than self-aggrandisement. As I've said before, he is the proverbial useful idiot - a mouthpiece for Bannon, Mercer et al, that they could't have designed better if they had set out to do it.

But it just fell into their laps as Trump careered through the primaries and I'm sure they were as surprised as anyone else when he ended up as the candidate. It didn't take them long to realise their good fortune. Suddenly Mercer is funding Trump's campaign and suddenly his close associate Bannon, out of nowhere, is the Chief Strategist - part of the funding deal, I presume.

That's the point I was trying to make Whitey, sorry if it wasn't clear in the original post. Trump (as his construction career shows) is not discerning about what he puts his name to. It is the guys in the shadows we need to watch.


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I was wondering why I was agreeing with whitey!!😁😁

And sorry - I did completely miss the last line of your post.

Gabriel_Hurl

6 tweets this morning before 7am about Obama wiretapping his phone.

He's losing it

screenexile

Is he trying to distract from the Russia thing maybe??

Be interesting to see how Pres. Obama handles this will he just dismiss it or make a big deal out of it and hold Trump to account??

whitey

I wonder when Bernie will be holding a press conference to publicly amd forcefully disavow his supporter who was making the bomb threats to the Jewish Community centers

whitey

Quote from: screenexile on March 04, 2017, 01:00:57 PM
Is he trying to distract from the Russia thing maybe??

Be interesting to see how Pres. Obama handles this will he just dismiss it or make a big deal out of it and hold Trump to account??

I think Trump and Bannon have had it with the leaks and are going to go on offense big time......fasten your seatbelts

J70

Quote from: whitey on March 04, 2017, 01:15:42 PM
I wonder when Bernie will be holding a press conference to publicly amd forcefully disavow his supporter who was making the bomb threats to the Jewish Community centers

Did Bernie run a divisive campaign courting the alt right?

J70

Quote from: whitey on March 04, 2017, 01:16:58 PM
Quote from: screenexile on March 04, 2017, 01:00:57 PM
Is he trying to distract from the Russia thing maybe??

Be interesting to see how Pres. Obama handles this will he just dismiss it or make a big deal out of it and hold Trump to account??

I think Trump and Bannon have had it with the leaks and are going to go on offense big time......fasten your seatbelts

Getting personal too, calling Obama a "bad (or sick) guy"!

If they were tapped, one would assume the Feds were listening in while looking into the Russia allegations.

Hard to see Obama being dumb enough to engage or get involved in Nixon type shit that was bound to come out.

whitey

Quote from: J70 on March 04, 2017, 01:29:52 PM
Quote from: whitey on March 04, 2017, 01:16:58 PM
Quote from: screenexile on March 04, 2017, 01:00:57 PM
Is he trying to distract from the Russia thing maybe??

Be interesting to see how Pres. Obama handles this will he just dismiss it or make a big deal out of it and hold Trump to account??

I think Trump and Bannon have had it with the leaks and are going to go on offense big time......fasten your seatbelts

Getting personal too, calling Obama a "bad (or sick) guy"!

If they were tapped, one would assume the Feds were listening in while looking into the Russia allegations.

Hard to see Obama being dumb enough to engage or get involved in Nixon type shit that was bound to come out.

What if they tapped the Trump Tower and leaked info to Hillarys campaign?

Rachel Maddow was flashing a classified doc on air the other night....gloves off....brass knuckles on

seafoid

Quote from: whitey on March 04, 2017, 01:34:32 PM
Quote from: J70 on March 04, 2017, 01:29:52 PM
Quote from: whitey on March 04, 2017, 01:16:58 PM
Quote from: screenexile on March 04, 2017, 01:00:57 PM
Is he trying to distract from the Russia thing maybe??

Be interesting to see how Pres. Obama handles this will he just dismiss it or make a big deal out of it and hold Trump to account??

I think Trump and Bannon have had it with the leaks and are going to go on offense big time......fasten your seatbelts

Getting personal too, calling Obama a "bad (or sick) guy"!

If they were tapped, one would assume the Feds were listening in while looking into the Russia allegations.

Hard to see Obama being dumb enough to engage or get involved in Nixon type shit that was bound to come out.

What if they tapped the Trump Tower and leaked info to Hillarys campaign?

Rachel Maddow was flashing a classified doc on air the other night....gloves off....brass knuckles on
Trump's enemies are not as weak as he thinks

whitey

Quote from: seafoid on March 04, 2017, 01:40:58 PM
Quote from: whitey on March 04, 2017, 01:34:32 PM
Quote from: J70 on March 04, 2017, 01:29:52 PM
Quote from: whitey on March 04, 2017, 01:16:58 PM
Quote from: screenexile on March 04, 2017, 01:00:57 PM
Is he trying to distract from the Russia thing maybe??

Be interesting to see how Pres. Obama handles this will he just dismiss it or make a big deal out of it and hold Trump to account??

I think Trump and Bannon have had it with the leaks and are going to go on offense big time......fasten your seatbelts

Getting personal too, calling Obama a "bad (or sick) guy"!

If they were tapped, one would assume the Feds were listening in while looking into the Russia allegations.

Hard to see Obama being dumb enough to engage or get involved in Nixon type shit that was bound to come out.

He prevailed over them during the election and he will prevail over them again


What if they tapped the Trump Tower and leaked info to Hillarys campaign?

Rachel Maddow was flashing a classified doc on air the other night....gloves off....brass knuckles on
Trump's enemies are not as weak as he thinks

DrinkingHarp

Quote from: Gabriel_Hurl on March 04, 2017, 12:28:35 PM
6 tweets this morning before 7am about Obama wiretapping his phone.

He's losing it

Typical SOP from the GOP Playbook, throw an accusation out in public to distract.

Similar to:
They are going to take your guns 
They have a war on Christianity
They are having Illegals Voting
They are Socialists/Communists
They are against the Middle Class (while the GOP dismantles Unions)
Etc, Etc, Etc


Gaaboard Predict The World Cup Champion 2014

stew

Quote from: DrinkingHarp on March 04, 2017, 08:19:03 PM
Quote from: Gabriel_Hurl on March 04, 2017, 12:28:35 PM
6 tweets this morning before 7am about Obama wiretapping his phone.

He's losing it

Typical SOP from the GOP Playbook, throw an accusation out in public to distract.

Similar to:
They are going to take your guns 
They have a war on Christianity
They are having Illegals Voting
They are Socialists/Communists
They are against the Middle Class (while the GOP dismantles Unions)
Etc, Etc, Etc



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Quote from: DrinkingHarp on March 04, 2017, 08:19:03 PM
Quote from: Gabriel_Hurl on March 04, 2017, 12:28:35 PM
6 tweets this morning before 7am about Obama wiretapping his phone.

He's losing it

Typical SOP from the GOP Playbook, throw an accusation out in public to distract.

Similar to:
They are going to take your guns 
They have a war on Christianity
They are having Illegals Voting
They are Socialists/Communists
They are against the Middle Class (while the GOP dismantles Unions)
Etc, Etc,

You democrats cheated and lost, you had your hero handed questions before s debate and lost, the country iscsick of your corrupt shit and voted your collective asses out of office.

One is worse than the other.........Just, the people knew it and fucked ye out on your holes! True story.
Armagh, the one true love of a mans life.

DrinkingHarp

You think Trump went on a twitter outrage this morning, wait till he hears about the golf tourny down in Mexico.
A spectator picked up Phil Mickelson's ball and took off.

Trump Twitter: Not only are Mexicans stealing our jobs but stealing our golf balls, SAD!! Build the wall now around the course!
Gaaboard Predict The World Cup Champion 2014

J70

Quote from: whitey on March 04, 2017, 03:26:56 PM
Quote from: seafoid on March 04, 2017, 01:40:58 PM
Quote from: whitey on March 04, 2017, 01:34:32 PM
Quote from: J70 on March 04, 2017, 01:29:52 PM
Quote from: whitey on March 04, 2017, 01:16:58 PM
Quote from: screenexile on March 04, 2017, 01:00:57 PM
Is he trying to distract from the Russia thing maybe??

Be interesting to see how Pres. Obama handles this will he just dismiss it or make a big deal out of it and hold Trump to account??

I think Trump and Bannon have had it with the leaks and are going to go on offense big time......fasten your seatbelts

Getting personal too, calling Obama a "bad (or sick) guy"!

If they were tapped, one would assume the Feds were listening in while looking into the Russia allegations.

Hard to see Obama being dumb enough to engage or get involved in Nixon type shit that was bound to come out.

He prevailed over them during the election and he will prevail over them again


What if they tapped the Trump Tower and leaked info to Hillarys campaign?

Rachel Maddow was flashing a classified doc on air the other night....gloves off....brass knuckles on
Trump's enemies are not as weak as he thinks

Even if his tweets are conspiratorial nonsense based on a Breitbart/Mark Levin story?

He is going to have to back these accusations up.

This isn't lying on the campaign trail or about birth cert "hunts" (uncovering unbelievable things in Hawaii!! ;D) or making shit up about the size of his inauguration crowd or electoral college tally.

He is on the record as personally accusing his actual predecessor, not his administration, of a possibly serious crime.