The Many Faces of US Politics...

[easytiger95]

How about two impeachments in one term? Apparently Russian contacts continued throughout 2016 (and 2017, unfortunately for Flynn) and Pence would want to be a skilled operator to distance himself from that, given how central he was to the campaign.

I personally don't like Pence, hate his stance on social issues, but I think he is on the right side of the Russian issue - but if it comes out that there was something going on that he disapproved of, but let happen, then he is a lame duck straight away. He may not have had a clue at all, might have been just as bewildered as most everyone else as to why Donald was so pro-Russia, but still gets tarred with it anyway.

If this thing does go down, as quickly and spectacularly as it might (for a rough time frame, lets say impeachment proceedings initiated before the midterms) then no one in that administration is coming out of it well.

I thought Donald would struggle to last a full term, but this really is new territory that the US is in, there has never been this kind of pace to the political cycle.

[Taylor]

The Russians must have info on Trump

I would assume that is a given at this stage - no?

Amazing that after all the bluster and the people of America speaking up for themselves and sticking two fingers up to the establishment it is those pesky Russkies who hold the key to who will be president

[sid waddell]

Serious inuendo in WSJ today.

How does President Pence sound?

Does Pence know what day it is?

Does he even know what week it is?

He doesn't seem to know much, or at least they aren't telling him.

He's been seriously undermined.

[screenexile]

It's brilliant . . . yeah blame the leaks Donnie not the fact that you're flailing around in the dark!!

[seafoid]

Rand Paul doesn't seem to enthused about investigating  Flynn. Apparently investigating fellow Republicans would get in the way of stuff like repealing Obamacare. So I guess investigations into possible malfeasance are only worth pursuing for political reasons. Wonder what his attitude was to the umpteen Benghazi investigations?

http://www.theblaze.com/news/2017/02/14/rand-paul-says-investigating-flynn-would-be-excessive-and-makes-no-sense/

The Republicans want to implement the Koch programme of Government in a bathtub. By the time they realise Trump.is radioactive it will be too late. They are like an octogenarian who has just married a criminal  pneumatic blonde. Can't see the malevolence. Just the tits.

[seafoid]

How about two impeachments in one term? Apparently Russian contacts continued throughout 2016 (and 2017, unfortunately for Flynn) and Pence would want to be a skilled operator to distance himself from that, given how central he was to the campaign.

I personally don't like Pence, hate his stance on social issues, but I think he is on the right side of the Russian issue - but if it comes out that there was something going on that he disapproved of, but let happen, then he is a lame duck straight away. He may not have had a clue at all, might have been just as bewildered as most everyone else as to why Donald was so pro-Russia, but still gets tarred with it anyway.

If this thing does go down, as quickly and spectacularly as it might (for a rough time frame, lets say impeachment proceedings initiated before the midterms) then no one in that administration is coming out of it well.

I thought Donald would struggle to last a full term, but this really is new territory that the US is in, there has never been this kind of pace to the political cycle.

Not in our experience of watching stuff. The late 60s/early 70s were messy. 1890s were too. It goes with savage inequality and/or system breakdown.

[stew]

Donald is only looking out for all of us everywhere.
A 62-year-old carer was beaten and stamped to death in London's Hyde Park by an illegal immigrant who had just been released on bail for shoplifting, a court heard.

Homeless Hani Khalaf, 22, allegedly kicked, punched and stamped on Jairo Medina, from Chelsea, west London, near Speakers' Corner on the evening of August 11 last year, leaving him for dead.

He pocketed the victim's cash and stole his mobile phone which he tried to sell on hours later, the Old Bailey was told.

Mr Medina's bruised and broken body was discovered early on August 12 by a groundsman on his way to work.

Prosecutor Oliver Glasgow QC said: "Jairo Medina had sustained severe injuries, with numerous bruises and broken bones all over his body.




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Police presence: Cordons were set up in Hyde Park (Alex Lentati)


"His nose, his eye sockets, the bones in his voice box and two of his ribs had all been fractured.

"The injuries to his head and face were devastating and had caused traumatic brain injury.

"He died as a result of the blunt force injuries that he had suffered when he had been punched, kicked and stamped on - in short, he had been beaten to death."

Mr Glasgow told jurors that the motive was greed as the victim's belongings were strewn around the park, his rucksack searched and his wallet emptied.

The defendant changed his clothes and took the victim's mobile phone to a shop in Kilburn High Road, where he tried to sell it, the court heard.

Investigators found CCTV of Khalaf with his victim at 11pm on the night of the killing at a supermarket near Marble Arch although Mr Glasgow said there was no obvious link between them.

Maybe that is the sort of thing Trump did not want his countrymen subjected to!

[sid waddell]

If nobody drove cars, nobody would die in car crashes!

Ban cars!

Eh, Stew? 

[J70]

Donald is only looking out for all of us everywhere.
A 62-year-old carer was beaten and stamped to death in London's Hyde Park by an illegal immigrant who had just been released on bail for shoplifting, a court heard.

Homeless Hani Khalaf, 22, allegedly kicked, punched and stamped on Jairo Medina, from Chelsea, west London, near Speakers' Corner on the evening of August 11 last year, leaving him for dead.

He pocketed the victim's cash and stole his mobile phone which he tried to sell on hours later, the Old Bailey was told.

Mr Medina's bruised and broken body was discovered early on August 12 by a groundsman on his way to work.

Prosecutor Oliver Glasgow QC said: "Jairo Medina had sustained severe injuries, with numerous bruises and broken bones all over his body.




hydeparkincident1208b.jpg© Provided by Independent Print Limited hydeparkincident1208b.jpg 

Police presence: Cordons were set up in Hyde Park (Alex Lentati)


"His nose, his eye sockets, the bones in his voice box and two of his ribs had all been fractured.

"The injuries to his head and face were devastating and had caused traumatic brain injury.

"He died as a result of the blunt force injuries that he had suffered when he had been punched, kicked and stamped on - in short, he had been beaten to death."

Mr Glasgow told jurors that the motive was greed as the victim's belongings were strewn around the park, his rucksack searched and his wallet emptied.

The defendant changed his clothes and took the victim's mobile phone to a shop in Kilburn High Road, where he tried to sell it, the court heard.

Investigators found CCTV of Khalaf with his victim at 11pm on the night of the killing at a supermarket near Marble Arch although Mr Glasgow said there was no obvious link between them.

Maybe that is the sort of thing Trump did not want his countrymen subjected to!

By that logic, why is he not pushing alcohol prohibition? How many people get their heads kicked in or worse as a result of drink? Or how about guns? Do we need to post those statistics again about gun deaths, lightning deaths, lawnmower deaths and terrorist deaths?

[HiMucker]

Jesus stew your off your rocker.  You said before the elections he was a terrible.candidate, you wouldn't vote for him etc etc etc. And now your defending him at every turn.  Open your eyes, this is unprecedented.

[seafoid]

http://talkingpointsmemo.com/edblog/rule-by-decree

Even when legislation is there for the passing, he lacks the focus, interest or skills to get it passed. He is low attention and low energy. Hastily drawn up executive orders, some inconsequential and some unconstitutional, are likely to be the order of the day, only with the Oval Office photo ops with toadies and CEO supplicants thrown in. In other words, it is not a poor man's but a lazy man's authoritarianism. He is by nature a strongman but lacks the focus or energy to get what he wants in a system which, at least for now, does not allow it.

[Rossfan]

Donald is only looking out for all of us everywhere.
A 62-year-old carer was beaten and stamped to death in London's Hyde Park by an illegal immigrant who had just been released on bail for shoplifting, a court heard.

Homeless Hani Khalaf, 22, allegedly kicked, punched and stamped on Jairo Medina, from Chelsea, west London, near Speakers' Corner on the evening of August 11 last year, leaving him for dead.

He pocketed the victim's cash and stole his mobile phone which he tried to sell on hours later, the Old Bailey was told.

Mr Medina's bruised and broken body was discovered early on August 12 by a groundsman on his way to work.

Prosecutor Oliver Glasgow QC said: "Jairo Medina had sustained severe injuries, with numerous bruises and broken bones all over his body.




hydeparkincident1208b.jpg© Provided by Independent Print Limited hydeparkincident1208b.jpg 

Police presence: Cordons were set up in Hyde Park (Alex Lentati)


"His nose, his eye sockets, the bones in his voice box and two of his ribs had all been fractured.

"The injuries to his head and face were devastating and had caused traumatic brain injury.

"He died as a result of the blunt force injuries that he had suffered when he had been punched, kicked and stamped on - in short, he had been beaten to death."

Mr Glasgow told jurors that the motive was greed as the victim's belongings were strewn around the park, his rucksack searched and his wallet emptied.

The defendant changed his clothes and took the victim's mobile phone to a shop in Kilburn High Road, where he tried to sell it, the court heard.

Investigators found CCTV of Khalaf with his victim at 11pm on the night of the killing at a supermarket near Marble Arch although Mr Glasgow said there was no obvious link between them.

Maybe that is the sort of thing Trump did not want his countrymen subjected to!

Two men from Meath are up in Court today charged with killing a man.

[sid waddell]

Jesus stew your off your rocker.  You said before the elections he was a terrible.candidate, you wouldn't vote for him etc etc etc. And now your defending him at every turn.  Open your eyes, this is unprecedented.

Stoopid Stoo's Stockholm Syndrome

[omagh_gael]

Serious inuendo in WSJ today.

How does President Pence sound?

Link?

[Crete Boom]

Donald is only looking out for all of us everywhere.
A 62-year-old carer was beaten and stamped to death in London's Hyde Park by an illegal immigrant who had just been released on bail for shoplifting, a court heard.

Homeless Hani Khalaf, 22, allegedly kicked, punched and stamped on Jairo Medina, from Chelsea, west London, near Speakers' Corner on the evening of August 11 last year, leaving him for dead.

He pocketed the victim's cash and stole his mobile phone which he tried to sell on hours later, the Old Bailey was told.

Mr Medina's bruised and broken body was discovered early on August 12 by a groundsman on his way to work.

Prosecutor Oliver Glasgow QC said: "Jairo Medina had sustained severe injuries, with numerous bruises and broken bones all over his body.




hydeparkincident1208b.jpg© Provided by Independent Print Limited hydeparkincident1208b.jpg 

Police presence: Cordons were set up in Hyde Park (Alex Lentati)


"His nose, his eye sockets, the bones in his voice box and two of his ribs had all been fractured.

"The injuries to his head and face were devastating and had caused traumatic brain injury.

"He died as a result of the blunt force injuries that he had suffered when he had been punched, kicked and stamped on - in short, he had been beaten to death."

Mr Glasgow told jurors that the motive was greed as the victim's belongings were strewn around the park, his rucksack searched and his wallet emptied.

The defendant changed his clothes and took the victim's mobile phone to a shop in Kilburn High Road, where he tried to sell it, the court heard.

Investigators found CCTV of Khalaf with his victim at 11pm on the night of the killing at a supermarket near Marble Arch although Mr Glasgow said there was no obvious link between them.

Maybe that is the sort of thing Trump did not want his countrymen subjected to!

Sure you are an immigrant from an area the conservative right would see as a place with a history of breeding terrorists , are you volunteering your visa/ passport to go home??