The Many Faces of US Politics...

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J70

Quote from: whitey on February 10, 2017, 10:25:21 PM
Pochantas hasnt an ounce of credibility.....if thats the best the Democrats can come up with theyre in serious trouble

https://secure.marketwatch.com/story/notable-quotable-elizabeth-warren-on-school-vouchers-2017-02-08

"A well-designed voucher program would fit the bill neatly. A taxpayer-funded voucher that paid the entire cost of educating a child (not just a partial subsidy) would open a range of opportunities to all children. . . . Fully funded vouchers would relieve parents from the terrible choice of leaving their kids in lousy schools or bankrupting themselves to escape those schools."

I will let Warren answer these possibly hyped up charges herself, but is she not talking about vouchers for public schools here, as opposed to allowing vouchers to be used to remove kids from the public school system? Is she not talking about allowing parents, not local government, to choose WHICH public school their kids go to and keeping the money in the public school system?

In other words, where exactly is the hypocrisy? Has Warren since come out against any and all vouchers, or just the use of them to move kids and money into private schools?

J70

The Crybaby in Chief still can't deal with losing the popular vote. Now claiming that himself and Kelly Ayotte lost in NH due to voter fraud!

seafoid

Warren and Sanders will hound Trump on working class pauperisation.

J70

Quote from: seafoid on February 11, 2017, 12:58:26 PM
Warren and Sanders will hound Trump on working class pauperisation.

I have noticed that Trump hasn't attacked Sanders, despite Bernie not holding back in his criticism, calling him "delusional" this week.

whitey

Quote from: J70 on February 11, 2017, 12:11:06 PM
Quote from: whitey on February 10, 2017, 10:25:21 PM
Pochantas hasnt an ounce of credibility.....if thats the best the Democrats can come up with theyre in serious trouble

https://secure.marketwatch.com/story/notable-quotable-elizabeth-warren-on-school-vouchers-2017-02-08

"A well-designed voucher program would fit the bill neatly. A taxpayer-funded voucher that paid the entire cost of educating a child (not just a partial subsidy) would open a range of opportunities to all children. . . . Fully funded vouchers would relieve parents from the terrible choice of leaving their kids in lousy schools or bankrupting themselves to escape those schools."

I will let Warren answer these possibly hyped up charges herself, but is she not talking about vouchers for public schools here, as opposed to allowing vouchers to be used to remove kids from the public school system? Is she not talking about allowing parents, not local government, to choose WHICH public school their kids go to and keeping the money in the public school system?

In other words, where exactly is the hypocrisy? Has Warren since come out against any and all vouchers, or just the use of them to move kids and money into private schools?

Democrats are against school choice and vouchers of ALL types (not just the vouchers that allow kids to attend charter schools)

www.nationalreview.com/article/430446/obama-against-school-choice

J70

Quote from: whitey on February 11, 2017, 02:53:07 PM
Quote from: J70 on February 11, 2017, 12:11:06 PM
Quote from: whitey on February 10, 2017, 10:25:21 PM
Pochantas hasnt an ounce of credibility.....if thats the best the Democrats can come up with theyre in serious trouble

https://secure.marketwatch.com/story/notable-quotable-elizabeth-warren-on-school-vouchers-2017-02-08

"A well-designed voucher program would fit the bill neatly. A taxpayer-funded voucher that paid the entire cost of educating a child (not just a partial subsidy) would open a range of opportunities to all children. . . . Fully funded vouchers would relieve parents from the terrible choice of leaving their kids in lousy schools or bankrupting themselves to escape those schools."

I will let Warren answer these possibly hyped up charges herself, but is she not talking about vouchers for public schools here, as opposed to allowing vouchers to be used to remove kids from the public school system? Is she not talking about allowing parents, not local government, to choose WHICH public school their kids go to and keeping the money in the public school system?

In other words, where exactly is the hypocrisy? Has Warren since come out against any and all vouchers, or just the use of them to move kids and money into private schools?

Democrats are against school choice and vouchers of ALL types (not just the vouchers that allow kids to attend charter schools)

www.nationalreview.com/article/430446/obama-against-school-choice

Ok, but what about Warren's supposed hypocrisy?

Has she come out against any and all voucher programs?

seafoid

http://www.nybooks.com/daily/2017/02/10/trump-travel-ban-in-court-ninth-circuit-decision/

the executive order violates the Establishment Clause of the Constitution. As the Supreme Court has stated in Larson v. Valente, "The clearest command of the Establishment Clause is that one religious denomination cannot be officially preferred over another." Yet Trump's order singles out only Muslim-majority countries for its outright ban on entry.

stew

Quote from: seafoid on February 11, 2017, 04:56:16 PM
http://www.nybooks.com/daily/2017/02/10/trump-travel-ban-in-court-ninth-circuit-decision/

the executive order violates the Establishment Clause of the Constitution. As the Supreme Court has stated in Larson v. Valente, "The clearest command of the Establishment Clause is that one religious denomination cannot be officially preferred over another." Yet Trump's order singles out only Muslim-majority countries for its outright ban on entry.

You conveniently left outvtge fact that ALL denominations from those countries are banned not just Muslims!

I am wondering how countries he does business in over there are exempt allegedly.

I am all for stopping people getting in until they are properly vetted,once vetted they should be allowed in as political refugees.
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J70

Quote from: stew on February 11, 2017, 08:41:25 PM
Quote from: seafoid on February 11, 2017, 04:56:16 PM
http://www.nybooks.com/daily/2017/02/10/trump-travel-ban-in-court-ninth-circuit-decision/

the executive order violates the Establishment Clause of the Constitution. As the Supreme Court has stated in Larson v. Valente, "The clearest command of the Establishment Clause is that one religious denomination cannot be officially preferred over another." Yet Trump's order singles out only Muslim-majority countries for its outright ban on entry.

You conveniently left outvtge fact that ALL denominations from those countries are banned not just Muslims!

I am wondering how countries he does business in over there are exempt allegedly.

I am all for stopping people getting in until they are properly vetted,once vetted they should be allowed in as political refugees.

They ARE properly vetted.

No wides

Quote from: J70 on February 11, 2017, 08:46:36 PM
Quote from: stew on February 11, 2017, 08:41:25 PM
Quote from: seafoid on February 11, 2017, 04:56:16 PM
http://www.nybooks.com/daily/2017/02/10/trump-travel-ban-in-court-ninth-circuit-decision/

the executive order violates the Establishment Clause of the Constitution. As the Supreme Court has stated in Larson v. Valente, "The clearest command of the Establishment Clause is that one religious denomination cannot be officially preferred over another." Yet Trump's order singles out only Muslim-majority countries for its outright ban on entry.

You conveniently left outvtge fact that ALL denominations from those countries are banned not just Muslims!

I am wondering how countries he does business in over there are exempt allegedly.

I am all for stopping people getting in until they are properly vetted,once vetted they should be allowed in as political refugees.

They ARE properly vetted.

Have you a copy of the criteria?

J70

Quote from: No wides on February 11, 2017, 08:49:41 PM
Quote from: J70 on February 11, 2017, 08:46:36 PM
Quote from: stew on February 11, 2017, 08:41:25 PM
Quote from: seafoid on February 11, 2017, 04:56:16 PM
http://www.nybooks.com/daily/2017/02/10/trump-travel-ban-in-court-ninth-circuit-decision/

the executive order violates the Establishment Clause of the Constitution. As the Supreme Court has stated in Larson v. Valente, "The clearest command of the Establishment Clause is that one religious denomination cannot be officially preferred over another." Yet Trump's order singles out only Muslim-majority countries for its outright ban on entry.

You conveniently left outvtge fact that ALL denominations from those countries are banned not just Muslims!

I am wondering how countries he does business in over there are exempt allegedly.

I am all for stopping people getting in until they are properly vetted,once vetted they should be allowed in as political refugees.

They ARE properly vetted.

Have you a copy of the criteria?

It takes them years to clear the hurdles and background checks. And the lack of issues with them once they get here would suggest that the process is a thorough one. Of all the threats to people living in the US, terrorists posing and jumping through all the hoops refugees have to go through to gain access to the country is a miniscule one.

But go ahead and tell us yourself what is wrong with the process and how Trump can improve it.


trileacman

What's the deal with connection to bad actors?
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Hardy

Quote from: trileacman on February 11, 2017, 09:50:24 PM
What's the deal with connection to bad actors?

If you're related to Jeff Goldblum you're not gettin' in. Seems reasonable enough.

foxcommander

Quote from: Eamonnca1 on February 11, 2017, 12:46:44 AM
Quote from: foxcommander on February 10, 2017, 10:27:00 PM
I must live in an alternative universe to liberals

Now you're catching on, old boy!

The liberal universe - where all white males are viewed as evil and privileged and need to be exterminated from the planet, where the results of a democratic election are not accepted, where which bathroom you take a dump in becomes a national crisis, where rap is thought to be music, where disobeying law gets you support from a non-American US president, where tv and commercials beat you to death pushing diversity, where you can't afford to take care of your elderly/veterans but protest to bring in refugees, where rioting and looting is seen as an acceptable response if you're from a particular group and where Lena Dunham is revered as being funny and sexy.

No thank you.

Every second of the day there's a Democrat telling a lie