The Many Faces of US Politics...

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foxcommander

Quote from: stew on January 28, 2017, 10:57:17 AM
Quote from: Rossfan on January 28, 2017, 12:55:32 AM
Well said Sid.

Luck his hole a wee bit more to the right, you missed a spot!

Ross is unable to think for himself so tags on to fools instead. He's missing his customary "+1' though

Every second of the day there's a Democrat telling a lie

foxcommander

Quote from: J70 on January 28, 2017, 06:33:57 PM
Quote from: Denn Forever on January 28, 2017, 06:32:11 PM
Was Puckoon factualy incorrect?

Don't think it matters if he was correct.

Moral high ground argument for the liberals. Doesn't matter that Hillary lost either. Never going to accept it.
Every second of the day there's a Democrat telling a lie

foxcommander

Quote from: J70 on January 29, 2017, 12:28:25 PM
Apparently some judges have partially shelved Trump's muslim ban, which unfolded with no regard whatsoever for the actual people caught up in it. That should get him going on Twitter.

If it's a muslim ban are all muslims prevented from travelling to the USA?

Alternative facts - eh J70?
Every second of the day there's a Democrat telling a lie

sid waddell

Quote from: foxcommander on January 29, 2017, 08:02:46 PM
Quote from: stew on January 28, 2017, 10:57:17 AM
Quote from: Rossfan on January 28, 2017, 12:55:32 AM
Well said Sid.

Luck his hole a wee bit more to the right, you missed a spot!

Ross is unable to think for himself so tags on to fools instead. He's missing his customary "+1' though
Still waiting for you to reply to my points.

Have you managed to think for yourself as to how to do this yet or are you waiting for your fellow Trumpbots to reply first?

J70

Quote from: foxcommander on January 29, 2017, 08:10:07 PM
Quote from: J70 on January 29, 2017, 12:28:25 PM
Apparently some judges have partially shelved Trump's muslim ban, which unfolded with no regard whatsoever for the actual people caught up in it. That should get him going on Twitter.

If it's a muslim ban are all muslims prevented from travelling to the USA?

Alternative facts - eh J70?

Only people from those countries getting in are persecuted christians and other minority religions. As if THEY'RE the only ones with major problems there.

But that's not even the main issue. Leaving aside the complete absence of evidence that refugees have been any kind of even trivial risk within the US and giving Trump the benefit of the doubt that ISIS or Al Qaida may try to put would-be terrorists through what is already a very intense screening process, the big issue with this executive order is the slipshod, callous manner in which he introduced the ban: people in midflight, families getting separated at the airport, people returning to legitimate jobs and lives, some with proper greencards and the rest, and government agencies with no preparation and government lawyers completely unprepared to answer the challenges in court.

J70

Quote from: foxcommander on January 29, 2017, 08:06:48 PM
Quote from: J70 on January 28, 2017, 06:33:57 PM
Quote from: Denn Forever on January 28, 2017, 06:32:11 PM
Was Puckoon factualy incorrect?

Don't think it matters if he was correct.

Moral high ground argument for the liberals. Doesn't matter that Hillary lost either. Never going to accept it.

Doesn't mean its not the correct argument. If you disagree, then tell us why.

As for the Hillary bit, who here is having trouble accepting she lost?

Name names.

seafoid

Will Jordan ‏@williamjordann  2 h

Days until achieving MAJORITY disapproval from @Gallup

Reagan: 727
Bush I: 1336
Clinton: 573
Bush II: 1205
Obama: 936

Trump: 8. days.

LeoMc

Is it a complete ban from the 7 named Countries or are persecuted minorities except?
How would one prove they were a persecuted minority? Is it just Christians and Jews or are all minorities exempt?
What about Ahmadis and other minority Muslim sects considered heretics and persecuted by Sunni's?

screenexile

Quote from: LeoMc on January 29, 2017, 10:45:07 PM
Is it a complete ban from the 7 named Countries or are persecuted minorities except?
How would one prove they were a persecuted minority? Is it just Christians and Jews or are all minorities exempt?
What about Ahmadis and other minority Muslim sects considered heretics and persecuted by Sunni's?

Complete!!!

Tony Baloney

Quote from: screenexile on January 29, 2017, 11:08:13 PM
Quote from: LeoMc on January 29, 2017, 10:45:07 PM
Is it a complete ban from the 7 named Countries or are persecuted minorities except?
How would one prove they were a persecuted minority? Is it just Christians and Jews or are all minorities exempt?
What about Ahmadis and other minority Muslim sects considered heretics and persecuted by Sunni's?

Complete!!!
Yep. Some of those banned are Yazidi's who have been on the front line against ISIS.

omaghjoe

Quote from: seafoid on January 29, 2017, 09:33:27 PM
Will Jordan ‏@williamjordann  2 h

Days until achieving MAJORITY disapproval from @Gallup

Reagan: 727
Bush I: 1336
Clinton: 573
Bush II: 1205
Obama: 936

Trump: 8. days.

But sure he never achieved majority approval in the first place

omaghjoe

Quote from: screenexile on January 29, 2017, 11:08:13 PM
Quote from: LeoMc on January 29, 2017, 10:45:07 PM
Is it a complete ban from the 7 named Countries or are persecuted minorities except?
How would one prove they were a persecuted minority? Is it just Christians and Jews or are all minorities exempt?
What about Ahmadis and other minority Muslim sects considered heretics and persecuted by Sunni's?

Complete!!!

Is it? Anyone confirm or refute that green card holders are also being refused entry? If so then are they gonna also start to round up green card holders?

Rights and wrongs aside this is a completely unthought out action, looks like Trump didnt even take any legal advice before issuing it. Tho TBH I would be more surprised if he had sought legal consul!

Also seems like alot of the DHS officials are disobeying explicit court orders, whats next Federal Marshals getting involved?

This is turning a bit crazy...

sid waddell

Quote from: omaghjoe on January 30, 2017, 12:25:13 AM

This is turning a bit crazy...
Who could ever have guessed electing a complete moron would mean things turning crazy?!  ;D

omochain

Quote from: whitey on January 28, 2017, 08:01:52 PM
Quote from: Puckoon on January 28, 2017, 06:41:47 PM
What matters is whether it feels correct to those who wish to exist in an alternative reality and trade in alternative facts.

Not really.....the MSM has been found out!  People have smartened up to the lies and bullshit that they were been spoon fed for years.....much of that same tripe is regurgitated by most of the lefties on here. 

https://hbr.org/2016/11/what-so-many-people-dont-get-about-the-u-s-working-class

That is a pretty good article on why you are pissed off,  Whitey and why people want to buy into Trump's post fact universe but it does not do anything to validate your statement. So come on, give us a few facts to back up how the Press are constantly lying to us to help us undermine your conservative values. I agree with you the  Press are guilty; guilty of ... being duped into giving false equivalency to "alternative facts". Have you read Alice's Adventures in Wonderland. I refer you to the Tea Party and the conversation between, Alice, the Mad Hatter, the March Hare and others.. You might recognize who some of the characters resemble.

heganboy

Quote from: omaghjoe on January 30, 2017, 12:25:13 AM


Is it? Anyone confirm or refute that green card holders are also being refused entry? If so then are they gonna also start to round up green card holders?

Rights and wrongs aside this is a completely unthought out action, looks like Trump didnt even take any legal advice before issuing it. Tho TBH I would be more surprised if he had sought legal consul!



See below ruling forcing the repatriation of a green card holder sent back to Dubai

https://www.aclusocal.org/sites/default/files/vayeghan_-_order_re_tro.pdf
Never underestimate the predictability of stupidity