The Many Faces of US Politics...

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whitey

Can you imagine if the results were flipped and 2M Trump supporters protested Hillarys election and tried the shut down the inauguration. I'd say we'd be hearing some "alternative facts" from the MSM regarding  Trump supporters and their behavior compared to what we're hearing about Hillarys mob

whitey

Quote from: Declan on January 24, 2017, 08:21:25 AM
Grab a coffee and read this preferably while sitting down ;) ;)

https://patribotics.wordpress.com/

Didn't Obama go over and try to influence the outcome of the Brexit vote

sid waddell

Quote from: whitey on January 24, 2017, 12:42:41 PM
Can you imagine if the results were flipped and 2M Trump supporters protested Hillarys election and tried the shut down the inauguration. I'd say we'd be hearing some "alternative facts" from the MSM regarding  Trump supporters and their behavior compared to what we're hearing about Hillarys mob
But you're kind of missing the point that Clinton, whatever you think of her, clearly didn't use blatantly fascist campaigning tactics and rhetoric, or anything close to it, whereas her opponent clearly did, and has continued in that vein.

People are entitled to protest about whatever they want, as they would have been had Clinton been elected, and as they were entitled to do against Obama.

People are also entitled to make judgments about the values and validity of such protest.


whitey

Quote from: sid waddell on January 24, 2017, 01:03:13 PM
Quote from: whitey on January 24, 2017, 12:42:41 PM
Can you imagine if the results were flipped and 2M Trump supporters protested Hillarys election and tried the shut down the inauguration. I'd say we'd be hearing some "alternative facts" from the MSM regarding  Trump supporters and their behavior compared to what we're hearing about Hillarys mob
But you're kind of missing the point that Clinton, whatever you think of her, clearly didn't use blatantly fascist campaigning tactics and rhetoric, or anything close to it, whereas her opponent clearly did, and has continued in that vein.

People are entitled to protest about whatever they want, as they would have been had Clinton been elected, and as they were entitled to do against Obama.

People are also entitled to make judgments about the values and validity of such protest.

Sending operatives in to disrupt and cause trouble at Trumps rally's....then have your buddies in the main stream media jump all over it and talk about nothing else for days on end....that's straight out of Hitler's playbook

J70

Quote from: whitey on January 24, 2017, 01:25:44 PM
Quote from: sid waddell on January 24, 2017, 01:03:13 PM
Quote from: whitey on January 24, 2017, 12:42:41 PM
Can you imagine if the results were flipped and 2M Trump supporters protested Hillarys election and tried the shut down the inauguration. I'd say we'd be hearing some "alternative facts" from the MSM regarding  Trump supporters and their behavior compared to what we're hearing about Hillarys mob
But you're kind of missing the point that Clinton, whatever you think of her, clearly didn't use blatantly fascist campaigning tactics and rhetoric, or anything close to it, whereas her opponent clearly did, and has continued in that vein.

People are entitled to protest about whatever they want, as they would have been had Clinton been elected, and as they were entitled to do against Obama.

People are also entitled to make judgments about the values and validity of such protest.

Sending operatives in to disrupt and cause trouble at Trumps rally's....then have your buddies in the main stream media jump all over it and talk about nothing else for days on end....that's straight out of Hitler's playbook

Yes, it was because of Hillary that Trump was encouraging his supporters to get violent with protestors!

Not condoning it, but if you were in the filthy game of politics, why the hell WOULDN'T you encourage people to go in and try to elicit a reaction once you'd seen his response and behaviour?

He can't help himself. Just like he can't help but respond to every trivial little slight and criticism.

sid waddell

Quote from: whitey on January 24, 2017, 01:25:44 PM
Quote from: sid waddell on January 24, 2017, 01:03:13 PM
Quote from: whitey on January 24, 2017, 12:42:41 PM
Can you imagine if the results were flipped and 2M Trump supporters protested Hillarys election and tried the shut down the inauguration. I'd say we'd be hearing some "alternative facts" from the MSM regarding  Trump supporters and their behavior compared to what we're hearing about Hillarys mob
But you're kind of missing the point that Clinton, whatever you think of her, clearly didn't use blatantly fascist campaigning tactics and rhetoric, or anything close to it, whereas her opponent clearly did, and has continued in that vein.

People are entitled to protest about whatever they want, as they would have been had Clinton been elected, and as they were entitled to do against Obama.

People are also entitled to make judgments about the values and validity of such protest.

Sending operatives in to disrupt and cause trouble at Trumps rally's....then have your buddies in the main stream media jump all over it and talk about nothing else for days on end....that's straight out of Hitler's playbook
Trump supporters are more than capable of causing trouble without anybody helping them.

https://twitter.com/Gavin_McInnes/status/823661115200733184

And Trump doesn't need you to jump in and make ridiculous comparisons to people who aren't even opponents of his being like something out of Nazi Germany, he's well capable of that himself -  as he did with feminists, the media, his own intelligence services and John McCain.

That's something that people trapped in the Trump bubble don't seem to understand - when you keep bogusly comparing other people to Nazis, it just makes you look like a fool.

Nazi comparisons should be reserved for where they're clearly accurate - such as shouting loudly that people of a certain religion should be blatantly and shamelessly discriminated against.




whitey

That's why we now have alternative facts......you cherry picked things Trump said or did and completely ignore similar things the Democrats said and did

seafoid

Quote from: whitey on January 24, 2017, 02:08:01 PM
That's why we now have alternative facts......you cherry picked things Trump said or did and completely ignore similar things the Democrats said and did
PJ what's his name compared Trump and Clinton by saying she was wrong about stuff within the normal parameters.
Trump is a catastrophe.  I wonder if the GOP will.survive him.

sid waddell

Quote from: whitey on January 24, 2017, 02:08:01 PM
That's why we now have alternative facts......you cherry picked things Trump said or did and completely ignore similar things the Democrats said and did

We don't have "alternative facts".

We have facts and falsehoods.

"Alternative facts" are falsehoods.





whitey

Quote from: sid waddell on January 24, 2017, 02:34:23 PM
Quote from: whitey on January 24, 2017, 02:08:01 PM
That's why we now have alternative facts......you cherry picked things Trump said or did and completely ignore similar things the Democrats said and did

We don't have "alternative facts".

We have facts and falsehoods.

"Alternative facts" are falsehoods.

Well we have them now whether you like it or not, thanks in no small part to the atrocious behavior of the lamecstream media during the election....a lot of people just don't believe them any more


Case in point Time magazines false report about Trump removing bust of MLK

Declan

See El Presidente has signed an executive order  to advance the keystone and Dakota pipelines

screenexile

Quote from: whitey on January 24, 2017, 02:58:03 PM
Quote from: sid waddell on January 24, 2017, 02:34:23 PM
Quote from: whitey on January 24, 2017, 02:08:01 PM
That's why we now have alternative facts......you cherry picked things Trump said or did and completely ignore similar things the Democrats said and did

We don't have "alternative facts".

We have facts and falsehoods.

"Alternative facts" are falsehoods.

Well we have them now whether you like it or not, thanks in no small part to the atrocious behavior of the lamecstream media during the election....a lot of people just don't believe them any more


Case in point Time magazines false report about Trump removing bust of MLK

That is not an alternative fact that was incorrect reporting!!! The reporter in question has retracted several times!!

Spicer/Trump/anyone in Trump's campaign have retracted none of their outlandish and ultimately false claims!!! Let's not pretend it was the mainstream media who started this bullshit it was Drumpf when he came down that escalator and said Mexicans were bringing drugs, crime and rapists... oh and some presumable are good people!!

sid waddell

Quote from: whitey on January 24, 2017, 02:58:03 PM
Quote from: sid waddell on January 24, 2017, 02:34:23 PM
Quote from: whitey on January 24, 2017, 02:08:01 PM
That's why we now have alternative facts......you cherry picked things Trump said or did and completely ignore similar things the Democrats said and did

We don't have "alternative facts".

We have facts and falsehoods.

"Alternative facts" are falsehoods.

Well we have them now whether you like it or not, thanks in no small part to the atrocious behavior of the lamecstream media during the election....a lot of people just don't believe them any more


Case in point Time magazines false report about Trump removing bust of MLK

Which was corrected within minutes. The journalist responsible sent out 12 tweets that the information previously reported was erroneous.

Whereas the Trump campaign is still sticking to its "alternative facts", sorry, falsehoods.

"Lamestream media" one of the many cliches used by Trump supporters to try to delegitimise anything that calls out Trump on anything.

You might think it makes you look smart to throw in such meaningless cliches, it doesn't - it just makes you look really foolish.


foxcommander

Quote from: Oraisteach on January 23, 2017, 10:21:17 PM
And, Foxcommander, the marches are not temper tantrums by the petulant.  Rather, they are a reaction to what a Trump presidency actually means, and now I'm sick of hearing the mantra "give him a chance"; his appointees and nominees were his chance, and look who he picked.  Sessions as Attorney-General--racist! Perry in Energy--imbecile who thought the job entailed being an embassy door for the fossil fuel industry. Climate change denier in charge of EPA.  Exxon oil billionaire in charge of State.  Goldman Sach out the wazoo.  King of foreclosures in charge of Treasury.  Ben Carson over HUD.  DeVos in charge of Education, she who has carried on a crusade against public schools.  Bannon and Kellyanne Conway, and Spicer, the Goebbels of "alternative facts" and leading an all-out assault on freedom of speech and a free press.

That's what they look like. Can't accept the result of the election. If it was a womens march then I take it that it was also a pro abortion march. Not every woman is behind that.

A lot of folk didn't want Obama but had to suck it up when he got voted in.
President Trump has the right to choose who he wants to run departments.

Compare to the Irish government - is Frances Fitzgerald really qualifed to run the Justice Department? She's a former social worker!
Ditto
Michael Noonan (finance)- secondary school teacher
Simon Harris (health)- Journalist
Michael Creed (fisheries)- legal studies
Mary Mitchell O'Connor (Jobs) - secondary skool teacher
Regina Doherty (Minister of state) - Morketing
etc...

Every second of the day there's a Democrat telling a lie

Oraisteach

It was a women's march, but abortion is not the sole women's issue.  Sadly I know a lot of people who voted for Trump simply as an anti-abortion stance when there were many more moral issues at stake here.

And yes, Trump has the right to nominate his people, but equally millions of protesters have the right to take to the streets to express their dissatisfaction with deplorable policies and appointments.