The Many Faces of US Politics...

[seafoid]

http://nypost.com/2016/07/30/why-white-trash-americans-are-flocking-to-donald-trump/

[seafoid]

She has shag all credibility. Zero. Full stop.
Listening to Kaine talking now about how she is worried about poor and underprivileged is a fin joke.
Google Clinton foundation for some interesting info.
Liberal media in overdrive.
It is now Russia's fault.
Trump not my first choice, but four more years of this and we are fuc*ed.

Shouldn't we be fucked by now after Obama's reelection?

Given the hand he was dealt he's done a decent enough job, but the long term prognosis of the outstanding federal debt is terrifying

https://informationstation.org/kitchen_table_econ/the-u-s-is-now-18-trillion-in-debt/?utm_source=google&utm_medium=cpc&utm_campaign=googlegrants2015&gclid=CLKKu6e3ls4CFUFZhgodOQwC4g

They can reduce its value by having inflation and zero interest rates like they did in the 50s

How will they inflate it Seafoid?

By taxing the rich, Muppet
Because there is a hole in the bucket !

The 1% own 42% of everything. So tax them at 20% extra . It is not like they are doing anything with the money

It is all part of a very long economic cycle

[J70]

http://nypost.com/2016/07/30/why-white-trash-americans-are-flocking-to-donald-trump/

That article does nothing except suggest that these people are deluded.

Manufacturing and assembly line jobs are not coming back to the US. Cheaper wages elsewhere and automation have put paid to that, allowing all this stuff to be sold to the public for much lower prices. All the bullshit in the world about trade deficits and tarriffs isn't going to change that. Same with coal mining, which has been declining for decades due to competition with other energy forms and is destroying their landscape anyway.

Yeah, maybe they think the Dems are condescending and don't address the issues of jobs as they would like, but at the same time they aren't smart enough to recognize bullshit and condescension in the form of Trump's demagoguing and false promises.

[CiKe]

She has shag all credibility. Zero. Full stop.
Listening to Kaine talking now about how she is worried about poor and underprivileged is a fin joke.
Google Clinton foundation for some interesting info.
Liberal media in overdrive.
It is now Russia's fault.
Trump not my first choice, but four more years of this and we are fuc*ed.

Shouldn't we be fucked by now after Obama's reelection?

Given the hand he was dealt he's done a decent enough job, but the long term prognosis of the outstanding federal debt is terrifying

https://informationstation.org/kitchen_table_econ/the-u-s-is-now-18-trillion-in-debt/?utm_source=google&utm_medium=cpc&utm_campaign=googlegrants2015&gclid=CLKKu6e3ls4CFUFZhgodOQwC4g

They can reduce its value by having inflation and zero interest rates like they did in the 50s

How will they inflate it Seafoid?

By taxing the rich, Muppet
Because there is a hole in the bucket !

The 1% own 42% of everything. So tax them at 20% extra . It is not like they are doing anything with the money

It is all part of a very long economic cycle

So tax and government spend or what? Tax on rich without spend is by itself deflationary as reduces spend. Do you mean tax rich and splurge on infrastructure?

[seafoid]

http://www.telesurtv.net/english/news/Clinton-Emails-Reveal-Direct-US-Sabotage-of-Venezuela-20160726-0041.html

[seafoid]

She has shag all credibility. Zero. Full stop.
Listening to Kaine talking now about how she is worried about poor and underprivileged is a fin joke.
Google Clinton foundation for some interesting info.
Liberal media in overdrive.
It is now Russia's fault.
Trump not my first choice, but four more years of this and we are fuc*ed.

Shouldn't we be fucked by now after Obama's reelection?

Given the hand he was dealt he's done a decent enough job, but the long term prognosis of the outstanding federal debt is terrifying

https://informationstation.org/kitchen_table_econ/the-u-s-is-now-18-trillion-in-debt/?utm_source=google&utm_medium=cpc&utm_campaign=googlegrants2015&gclid=CLKKu6e3ls4CFUFZhgodOQwC4g

They can reduce its value by having inflation and zero interest rates like they did in the 50s

How will they inflate it Seafoid?

By taxing the rich, Muppet
Because there is a hole in the bucket !

The 1% own 42% of everything. So tax them at 20% extra . It is not like they are doing anything with the money

It is all part of a very long economic cycle

So tax and government spend or what? Tax on rich without spend is by itself deflationary as reduces spend. Do you mean tax rich and splurge on infrastructure?

Tax on unused wealth and redistribute via funded tax credits. Or else invest in a serious rebuild to get the money back in the economy where it is recycled via wages. Or just get the Government to build industries to deliver what the private sector will not. Loads of options. all of the neoliberal arguments against the public sector are bollocks when the private sector refuses to invest.
There has been 9tn in QE and the economy is stagnant. 1.2% growth in Q2. The Fed cannot generate growth with the current system.

[stew]

Who won the election lads, very quiet on here of late, hmmm.

[heganboy]

?

[stew]

?

Oh sorry, it has been so qulet on here I thought maybe the election was over.

Anyhoo in related news, those pesky people black lives matter has come up with a list of demands, reparations for blacks, the war on black lives has to end, more political power all over the country and it goes on and on.

I see black lives matter has a rally where white people were told to March at the back, black and brown people were told to march at the front, I guess it's the same old same old from the left.

[seafoid]

Now Clinton is the devil. The sophistication of the US.

[stew]

Now Clinton is the devil. The sophistication of the US.

Both of them are devil's.

[Declan]

Don't mention this to Donald

https://inews.co.uk/essentials/news/world/ted-hakey-jr-learned-mosque-fired-30-shots-forgave/

[J70]

Barring some major event, the election cycle is going to continue as is. Every week or two, Trump will not be able to resist from responding to some perceived sleight and will go completely over the top in lashing out, knocking another point off his polling as he demonstrates how petty and temperamentally ill suited he is to the position. Clinton will move steadily along, parrying away questions about the emails and holding her own in the face of Trump's deep seated need to smash down each and every question raised about his bullshit.

From the GOP perspective, they really have to be kicking themselves about what might have been. Even if Trump wins, he clearly is not up to the job. Third world strongman maybe, but president of a free western democracy?

[Zulu]

I'm only watching this from afar, largely for the entertainment value the batshit crazy way US politics is, but has Trump not moved a lot of his manufacturing jobs to China etc. and if so why do we not hear a presidential candidate who always talks about bringing jobs back to America not get challenged on this more? Letterman did...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SYoOPgeTMQc

[heganboy]

In a new approach, Drumpf has cemented his BS with his fans by now stating that the election will be rigged. And borrowing from the Ailes playbook his team are saying there will be a bloodbath to follow the election if he doesn't win.


Now there scary thing about this is that trump voters really only know other trump voters, and with that experience they will firmly believe that the result should have been a trump landslide.


This is what happens when politicians are able to express opinions as facts and nobody called them on it...

Roger Stone, a long time confidante of Trump, amplified these concerns in an interview with a far right wing radio show.

Stone said: "I think we have widespread voter fraud, but the first thing that Trump needs to do is begin talking about it constantly."
Laying out a strategy for Trump to adopt, Stone added: "He needs to say for example, today would be a perfect example: 'I am leading in Florida. The polls all show it. If I lose Florida, we will know that there's voter fraud. If there's voter fraud, this election will be illegitimate, the election of the winner will be illegitimate, we will have a constitutional crisis, widespread civil disobedience, and the government will no longer be the government.'"


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He also promised a "bloodbath" if the Democrats attempted to "steal" the election.