The Many Faces of US Politics...

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seafoid

Quote from: Oraisteach on June 13, 2016, 11:25:47 PM
Well, the yuge orang-utan has apparently rescinded the Washington Post's press credentials, a further sign that he is a threat to free speech.  I am so disheartened by the droves of followers his neo-Fascist stance attracts, and by his words following the Orlando massacre.
Trump is an asshole
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PX9reO3QnUA

stew

Quote from: Oraisteach on June 13, 2016, 11:25:47 PM
Well, the yuge orang-utan has apparently rescinded the Washington Post's press credentials, a further sign that he is a threat to free speech.  I am so disheartened by the droves of followers his neo-Fascist stance attracts, and by his words following the Orlando massacre.

Free speech my hole, the snotrag flat out lied linking remarks made by Trump tying the prez to the e Orlando shootings.

Did you like the eight seconds of dead air Couric. Added to a question about gun control, your media is repugnant Orals and you are being hypocritical here, free speech is dead in the states and this administration has helped kill it.
Armagh, the one true love of a mans life.

Oraisteach

No, Stew, free speech is not dead, but it is alarming to see Donald Trump attempt to gag anyone who seeks to question him about his long history of fraud and deceit or who writes about his dishonesty and hypocrisy. 

screenexile

Quote from: stew on June 14, 2016, 03:05:25 PM
Quote from: Oraisteach on June 13, 2016, 11:25:47 PM
Well, the yuge orang-utan has apparently rescinded the Washington Post's press credentials, a further sign that he is a threat to free speech.  I am so disheartened by the droves of followers his neo-Fascist stance attracts, and by his words following the Orlando massacre.

Free speech my hole, the snotrag flat out lied linking remarks made by Trump tying the prez to the e Orlando shootings.

Did you like the eight seconds of dead air Couric. Added to a question about gun control, your media is repugnant Orals and you are being hypocritical here, free speech is dead in the states and this administration has helped kill it.

What the f**k are we supposed to infer from the following:

Quote"Look, we're led by a man that either is not tough, not smart, or he's got something else in mind," Trump said in a lengthy interview on Fox News early Monday morning. "And the something else in mind — you know, people can't believe it. People cannot, they cannot believe that President Obama is acting the way he acts and can't even mention the words 'radical Islamic terrorism.' There's something going on. It's inconceivable. There's something going on."

He's quite clearly implying the President is someway complicit in the whole thing. In any case why is it OK for Trump to tell lies ALL THE TIME and get away with it and when a paper infers something quite blatant but not concrete they are suddenly the bad guys??

J70

Don't worry - Trump, as always, was just vague enough to give someone like stew (who can't stand him, remember), enough wiggle room to support his subsequent denial or " clarification".

J70

Quote from: stew on June 14, 2016, 03:05:25 PM
Quote from: Oraisteach on June 13, 2016, 11:25:47 PM
Well, the yuge orang-utan has apparently rescinded the Washington Post's press credentials, a further sign that he is a threat to free speech.  I am so disheartened by the droves of followers his neo-Fascist stance attracts, and by his words following the Orlando massacre.

Free speech my hole, the snotrag flat out lied linking remarks made by Trump tying the prez to the e Orlando shootings.

Did you like the eight seconds of dead air Couric. Added to a question about gun control, your media is repugnant Orals and you are being hypocritical here, free speech is dead in the states and this administration has helped kill it.

How has this administration "killed" free speech?

heganboy

Never underestimate the predictability of stupidity

heganboy

in some actual good news from the US today- a court in DC ruled in favor of net neutrality.
The FCC in the US is now expected to go ahead with implementing the new privacy rules on the broadband providers.
Never underestimate the predictability of stupidity

omaghjoe

Wow surprised that it went that way.

Dont bet on it lasting tho Congress will likely pass a law giving it away again after they get wined dined and holidayed

heganboy

And in some more good news:

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2016/jun/19/hillary-clinton-donald-trump-election-race-obama-surrogate

And also

http://wapo.st/2009qZI

It turns out that the way you win a nomination is very very very different from how you win an election. Currently trump running for president is likely to cause 2 very significant outcomes for US politics;
1. Democratic control of the Senate and Congress, with a Democrat for president, which would lead to supreme  Court legacy as well as significant immediate changes in US policy

2. A split in the Republican party which could take 10 years to fix, even with Koch brothers money, and that will be to a 10 year younger voting population, which is currently moving more and more socialist by the year.

Interesting times ahead.
Never underestimate the predictability of stupidity

Eamonnca1

It could be that the Repubs have hit their post-Thatcher moment. That's them out for a generation. Just when you think they can't sink any lower, Trump opens his mouth again and proves you wrong. And with the gun nuts picking a powerful enemy in the LGBT community, I'd say a repeal of the Second Amendment would not be out of the question in the foreseeable future.

Oraisteach

Eamonn, I think the Second Amendment is rock solid safe, as much as I would like to see it go.  After all, it was handed down to Moses along with the 10 Commandments.  Would be happy to see stricter background checks, the end of guns being sold out of car boots, and more robust laws regarding semi-automatic weapons.

stew

Quote from: Eamonnca1 on June 19, 2016, 08:56:35 PM
It could be that the Repubs have hit their post-Thatcher moment. That's them out for a generation. Just when you think they can't sink any lower, Trump opens his mouth again and proves you wrong. And with the gun nuts picking a powerful enemy in the LGBT community, I'd say a repeal of the Second Amendment would not be out of the question in the foreseeable future.


Trump is NOT a republican for facks sake!

You have no room talking about low when the scum of the earth is running for those shitheads you want to see in power.
Armagh, the one true love of a mans life.

easytiger95

Trump may not be a conservative Stew, but he is certainly a Republican - in fact, he is the presumptive Republican nominee (I only use presumptive because it is looking like he is going to face a big problem at the convention) and a clear majority of Republican primary voters elected him.

It is getting less and less plausible for you to compare the moral worth of a flawed* but experienced career politician and the gibbering, racist id of a party that has slipped into a chasm of paranoia, denial and ugliness. It stopped being pleasant a long time ago.

(Hillary is flawed IMHO because of her foreign policy and her support for the Iraq war. However it should be emphasized, that no matter how much it is claimed by Republicans, she has never been found guilty of corruption, fraud, treason, murder or whatever the scandal du jour is - despite multiple investigations)

J70

Quote from: stew on June 20, 2016, 12:15:40 PM
Quote from: Eamonnca1 on June 19, 2016, 08:56:35 PM
It could be that the Repubs have hit their post-Thatcher moment. That's them out for a generation. Just when you think they can't sink any lower, Trump opens his mouth again and proves you wrong. And with the gun nuts picking a powerful enemy in the LGBT community, I'd say a repeal of the Second Amendment would not be out of the question in the foreseeable future.


Trump is NOT a republican for facks sake!

You have no room talking about low when the scum of the earth is running for those shitheads you want to see in power.

He's just the GOP nominee for POTUS.

But NOT a Republican.

None of the xenophobia, the racial/ religious profiling, the birther stuff, the misogyny, the anti- intellectualism, the anti- scientific views, the conspiracy theorism...

... none of that is characteristic of the Republican Party! In no way is he the logical conclusion to the road they've been on for years! ;D