The Many Faces of US Politics...

[stew]

While he's busy doing talk shows like Ellen he could have been working on his foreign policy.

Oh sweet mother of God. Did someone actually just say this and mean it?

Right. If only. If only he'd worked on his foreign policy. If only he'd done something to stop Iran from getting a nuclear weapon while undermining the hardliners in Tehran. If only he'd repaired relations with America's allies after the damage done by Bush. If only he'd killed Osama Bin Laden. If only he'd worked with his allies to oust Colonel Gaddafi without losing a single American soldier.

Oh that's right, he did all of those things.

The mind of a Fox News viewer is a frightening place.

Trump is doing SNL, nothing to see here.

[deiseach]

This "All lives matter" shite is all a part of this supposed white Christian male persecution, this white longing for victimhood fomented by Fox News and the right wing machine. The politics of white resentment,  which seems to be the current modus operandi for the GOP.

Insisting that "All lives matter"in the US context is the equivalent of how Unionist politicians would always drag up some other atrocity whenever Bloody Sunday crossed their path. They didn't give two hoots about the Taigs rubbed out by their brave boys, just as mainstream Republicans - not the extremists - don't care when some 'Kenyan' is taken out by their brave boys.

[J70]

This "All lives matter" shite is all a part of this supposed white Christian male persecution, this white longing for victimhood fomented by Fox News and the right wing machine. The politics of white resentment,  which seems to be the current modus operandi for the GOP.

Insisting that "All lives matter"in the US context is the equivalent of how Unionist politicians would always drag up some other atrocity whenever Bloody Sunday crossed their path. They didn't give two hoots about the Taigs rubbed out by their brave boys, just as mainstream Republicans - not the extremists - don't care when some 'Kenyan' is taken out by their brave boys.

Yep, it's a distraction to downplay and delegitimize the real issues when it comes to the justice system and blacks.

[stew]

This "All lives matter" shite is all a part of this supposed white Christian male persecution, this white longing for victimhood fomented by Fox News and the right wing machine. The politics of white resentment,  which seems to be the current modus operandi for the GOP.

Insisting that "All lives matter"in the US context is the equivalent of how Unionist politicians would always drag up some other atrocity whenever Bloody Sunday crossed their path. They didn't give two hoots about the Taigs rubbed out by their brave boys, just as mainstream Republicans - not the extremists - don't care when some 'Kenyan' is taken out by their brave boys.

It is a simple question and they blew it, only two people on the left matter in the dems that are running and neither of the top two had it in them to say all lives matter, disturbing.

To me it is amazing what has happened to the aura of the office of president of the United States, it started to erode with Nixon and his tremendous paranoia that ended up known to the world as Watergate and although there were a few bumper stickers denouncing Carter and the subsequent presidents things really kicked into high gear under Clinton after he had Lewinski blowing him in the White House, from there you had W and he got dogs abuse and now under president Obama the walls are crumbling down, the fact that Trump has even got a sniff to me is amazing but it is a sign of the times, people no longer want upright moral citizens, they want change, Clinton the other night talked about being an outsider because she was a woman and she should be elected because she is a woman and different from the other wannabee's, problem is, the Republicans have one of those too only this one is not dragged down with the deaths of four servicemen for not giving them the help they begged for, not immersed in an email scandal were top secret documents were there for the taking because she did not want to carry two devices and put the country at risk, not to mention people all over the world working for her and the Country. I could go on and on but she is a massive part of the establishment and she is going to get eaten alive on these issues if she ever gets to meet a Republican, she is a flip flopping political whore who will say anything to get elected, one last thing, Saunders at least came on the stage a Socialist/communist, Clinton joined him by the nights end but watch, she will slip back into moderate after getting elected.

[stew]

Black lives matter or all lives matter, four out of the five said black lives matter, Clinton and the seventy four year old lunatic sanders both were emphatic. Black lives matter to them, disturbing to say

This issue is not about elevating the value of black lives over all lives. It's about black lives mattering as much as all other lives.  Basically "black lives matter TOO". And given the relative abuse they suffer at the hands of the police and the justice system, which all came to a head and triggered this movement, it's a legitimate sentiment.

This "All lives matter" shite is all a part of this supposed white Christian male persecution, this white longing for victimhood fomented by Fox News and the right wing machine. The politics of white resentment,  which seems to be the current modus operandi for the GOP.

Come on, the white longing for victimhood, that is bollocks, you cant believe this crap you are spewing?

But yeah, of course all lives matter.  No one is saying otherwise. It's just that maybe black lives should matter just as much.

J70 they just did just say that, it is not complicated! they had a simple choice, all lives matter or black lives matter, they chose black lives matter.

Clinton and Saunders BOTH SAID BLACK LIVES MATTER, that is a fact, in fact there were smatterings of boo's when the one guy said all lives matter and he ended up apologizing for saying it!

[J70]

Email concerns may be legit, but NONE of the numerous Benghazi investigations have supported ANY of the "allegations" against Clinton.  Interesting too that TWO Republicans have admitted in the past couple of weeks that they are nothing but political witch hunts out to nail Hillary.

And the All Lives Matter stuff is just willful ignorance and fake outrage. .

[J70]

Black lives matter or all lives matter, four out of the five said black lives matter, Clinton and the seventy four year old lunatic sanders both were emphatic. Black lives matter to them, disturbing to say

This issue is not about elevating the value of black lives over all lives. It's about black lives mattering as much as all other lives.  Basically "black lives matter TOO". And given the relative abuse they suffer at the hands of the police and the justice system, which all came to a head and triggered this movement, it's a legitimate sentiment.

This "All lives matter" shite is all a part of this supposed white Christian male persecution, this white longing for victimhood fomented by Fox News and the right wing machine. The politics of white resentment,  which seems to be the current modus operandi for the GOP.

Come on, the white longing for victimhood, that is bollocks, you cant believe this crap you are spewing?

But yeah, of course all lives matter.  No one is saying otherwise. It's just that maybe black lives should matter just as much.

J70 they just did just say that, it is not complicated! they had a simple choice, all lives matter or black lives matter, they chose black lives matter.

Clinton and Saunders BOTH SAID BLACK LIVES MATTER, that is a fact, in fact there were smatterings of boo's when the one guy said all lives matter and he ended up apologizing for saying it!

Did you even read what I wrote?

[stew]

Email concerns may be legit, but NONE of the numerous Benghazi investigations have supported ANY of the "allegations" against Clinton.  Interesting too that TWO Republicans have admitted in the past couple of weeks that they are nothing but political witch hunts out to nail Hillary.

And the All Lives Matter stuff is just willful ignorance and fake outrage. .

Then why can she not call the mother of one of the dead soldiers back after promising to? Her non action sealed the woman's son's fate and got three more men killed.

The Clinton foundation is as shady as fook also, they have taken money from all over the middle east and while Hilly was banging on about elect me cause I am woman I could not stop thinking about the fact that for example, she has taken millions of dollars for their foundation yet has feck all to say on for example the UEE's repugnant treatment of women in their society.

[stew]

This "All lives matter" shite is all a part of this supposed white Christian male persecution, this white longing for victimhood fomented by Fox News and the right wing machine. The politics of white resentment,  which seems to be the current modus operandi for the GOP.

Insisting that "All lives matter"in the US context is the equivalent of how Unionist politicians would always drag up some other atrocity whenever Bloody Sunday crossed their path. They didn't give two hoots about the Taigs rubbed out by their brave boys, just as mainstream Republicans - not the extremists - don't care when some 'Kenyan' is taken out by their brave boys.

Bullshit, it is highlighting that the country needs to come together as one instead of a divisive organization that only has singular interest in their own lives and seemingly no interest in people of any other race of beings.
In Chicago right now crime is on the rise because cops are afraid to do their jobs, their own Mayor has turned on them and they feel isolated and morale is low, I for one cant blame them, not too long ago black lives matter protesters were singing a nice we ditty about rolling pigs in a blanket and setting them afire, those f**kers should have been locked up for incitement to hatred.

[J70]

Email concerns may be legit, but NONE of the numerous Benghazi investigations have supported ANY of the "allegations" against Clinton.  Interesting too that TWO Republicans have admitted in the past couple of weeks that they are nothing but political witch hunts out to nail Hillary.

And the All Lives Matter stuff is just willful ignorance and fake outrage. .

Then why can she not call the mother of one of the dead soldiers back after promising to? Her non action sealed the woman's son's fate and got three more men killed.

The Clinton foundation is as shady as fook also, they have taken money from all over the middle east and while Hilly was banging on about elect me cause I am woman I could not stop thinking about the fact that for example, she has taken millions of dollars for their foundation yet has feck all to say on for example the UEE's repugnant treatment of women in their society.

Stew, if you evidence of how her non - action sealed those guys fates, then present it.

As for the ME connections, you do realize she was Secretary of State, and diplomacy can necessitate holding your nose when having to cooperate with other countries.

Not saying she is not a hypocrite (I doubt if many politicians are not, given how often they have to thread the needle). I have no idea what she has and has not said on UAE or Saudi or any other country's treatment of women.

[AZOffaly]

So where was 'All Lives Matter' before Black Lives Matter became a cause celebré. It's obviously a reactionary, and I'd say more than a bit racially charged, campaign.

I don't agree with a lot of what Black Lives Matter have done and said, I think they themselves may be driving a bigger wedge between the races. It really does need an 'All Lives Matter' approach, but a genuine All Lives Matter, not just a 'how dare them blacks have that, lets start one of our own'.

[J70]

This "All lives matter" shite is all a part of this supposed white Christian male persecution, this white longing for victimhood fomented by Fox News and the right wing machine. The politics of white resentment,  which seems to be the current modus operandi for the GOP.

Insisting that "All lives matter"in the US context is the equivalent of how Unionist politicians would always drag up some other atrocity whenever Bloody Sunday crossed their path. They didn't give two hoots about the Taigs rubbed out by their brave boys, just as mainstream Republicans - not the extremists - don't care when some 'Kenyan' is taken out by their brave boys.

Bullshit, it is highlighting that the country needs to come together as one instead of a divisive organization that only has singular interest in their own lives and seemingly no interest in people of any other race of beings.
In Chicago right now crime is on the rise because cops are afraid to do their jobs, their own Mayor has turned on them and they feel isolated and morale is low, I for one cant blame them, not too long ago black lives matter protesters were singing a nice we ditty about rolling pigs in a blanket and setting them afire, those f**kers should have been locked up for incitement to hatred.

Tell us stew, why did the Black Lives Matter movement start?

[stew]

This "All lives matter" shite is all a part of this supposed white Christian male persecution, this white longing for victimhood fomented by Fox News and the right wing machine. The politics of white resentment,  which seems to be the current modus operandi for the GOP.

Insisting that "All lives matter"in the US context is the equivalent of how Unionist politicians would always drag up some other atrocity whenever Bloody Sunday crossed their path. They didn't give two hoots about the Taigs rubbed out by their brave boys, just as mainstream Republicans - not the extremists - don't care when some 'Kenyan' is taken out by their brave boys.

Bullshit, it is highlighting that the country needs to come together as one instead of a divisive organization that only has singular interest in their own lives and seemingly no interest in people of any other race of beings.
In Chicago right now crime is on the rise because cops are afraid to do their jobs, their own Mayor has turned on them and they feel isolated and morale is low, I for one cant blame them, not too long ago black lives matter protesters were singing a nice we ditty about rolling pigs in a blanket and setting them afire, those f**kers should have been locked up for incitement to hatred.

Tell us stew, why did the Black Lives Matter movement start?

The Trayvon Martin killing had a lot to do with it, hot on the heels of that came several other high profile killings of black youth? Zimmerman getting off did not help, it was born of outrage at black kids dying on the streets, they say, just because they were black.

[foxcommander]

Right, because he can't take a second to make a joke AND do his job.

You must exist in a constant state of frothing outrage if THAT bothered you!

And in what parallel dimension does a president need to seek publicity!!

He's a clown but he's not paid to be a comedian. Best leave that to Kevin Hart, Hannibal Burress or Seth Rogen.

While he's busy doing talk shows like Ellen he could have been working on his foreign policy.

Giving up any time to other publicity seeking clowns is taking time away from the issues. If Kanye West's presidential campaign for 2020 is in the forefront of his mind then you see what sort of problems the US faces.

That is complete and utter shite. All the politicians do these shows. Presidents are on duty 24 hours a day -just because they are doing an interview and, heaven help us, making a pop culture joke,  doesn't mean they and their team are not on top of whatever is going in. You think Bush wasn't making decisions while he was out on his ranch with his chainsaw? Or Reagan out on his horse.

Lets put it another way: are you not capable of having an opinion on GAA or whatever it is brings you here in addition to doing your job properly?

Pathetic!

You'll go to some lengths to justify the Kenyans poor showing. I commend you for your blind loyalty.
I wouldn't mind if he was actually funny. Just smacks of being as cringeworthy as Tony Blair's Britpop flirtation.

Nothing like a bit of casual racism.

Kenyan = someone from Kenya. Not sure how you came to your conclusion.

You PC bro?

[J70]

This "All lives matter" shite is all a part of this supposed white Christian male persecution, this white longing for victimhood fomented by Fox News and the right wing machine. The politics of white resentment,  which seems to be the current modus operandi for the GOP.

Insisting that "All lives matter"in the US context is the equivalent of how Unionist politicians would always drag up some other atrocity whenever Bloody Sunday crossed their path. They didn't give two hoots about the Taigs rubbed out by their brave boys, just as mainstream Republicans - not the extremists - don't care when some 'Kenyan' is taken out by their brave boys.

Bullshit, it is highlighting that the country needs to come together as one instead of a divisive organization that only has singular interest in their own lives and seemingly no interest in people of any other race of beings.
In Chicago right now crime is on the rise because cops are afraid to do their jobs, their own Mayor has turned on them and they feel isolated and morale is low, I for one cant blame them, not too long ago black lives matter protesters were singing a nice we ditty about rolling pigs in a blanket and setting them afire, those f**kers should have been locked up for incitement to hatred.

Tell us stew, why did the Black Lives Matter movement start?

The Trayvon Martin killing had a lot to do with it, hot on the heels of that came several other high profile killings of black youth? Zimmerman getting off did not help, it was born of outrage at black kids dying on the streets, they say, just because they were black.

You seem to have some understanding of how the movement arose. Why the misinterpretation then that they are claiming ONLY black lives matter?