The OFFICIAL Liverpool FC thread - we go again

Started by Gabriel_Hurl, February 05, 2009, 03:47:16 PM

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laoislad

Neville sounds gutted 😂

Liverpool got out of jail there, loads to improve on.
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trueblue1234

Bit of a smash and grab there!! Not at the races for large parts of the game. That defence is going to be a nightmare this year.
Thought Liverpool were static and slow in the most. Not a great sign, but early days.
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Hoof Hearted

Had to be a keegan style finish given the day that was in it

J70

Quote from: trueblue1234 on August 23, 2026, 06:32:50 PMBit of a smash and grab there!! Not at the races for large parts of the game. That defence is going to be a nightmare this year.
Thought Liverpool were static and slow in the most. Not a great sign, but early days.

I thought it was more the midfield that was the issue on those breaks (not saying Kerkez and Frimpong were great). Massive holes for Newcastle to run through unchallenged. But it doesn't appear to be a priority in the transfer market.

Blessed to get an undeserved point. I thought Koumas and, especially Munoz, made a difference when they came on. Trying to cram Rio onto right wing is going to take a lot of work. He should be left on the other wing where he can make a difference.

blewuporstuffed

Quote from: J70 on August 23, 2026, 07:38:32 PM
Quote from: trueblue1234 on August 23, 2026, 06:32:50 PMBit of a smash and grab there!! Not at the races for large parts of the game. That defence is going to be a nightmare this year.
Thought Liverpool were static and slow in the most. Not a great sign, but early days.

I thought it was more the midfield that was the issue on those breaks (not saying Kerkez and Frimpong were great). Massive holes for Newcastle to run through unchallenged. But it doesn't appear to be a priority in the transfer market.

Blessed to get an undeserved point. I thought Koumas and, especially Munoz, made a difference when they came on. Trying to cram Rio onto right wing is going to take a lot of work. He should be left on the other wing where he can make a difference.

The whole midfield getting caught ahead of the ball was the issue for both goals not really the defence ( although kerkez did looking like he was running in treacle)
Bright spots were Jaquet who looked good again and Munoz looked lively off the bench.
The full backs and the lack of balance in midfield look a real worry, not to mention another stinker from Isak who has yet to play well in a Liverpool shirt.
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Capt Pat

I didn't see the game but it is a solid start to the season. An away draw at Newcastle compares well with what fellow competitors for champions league slots Man U Spurs and Villa accomplished in their opening games.

trileacman

Quote from: blewuporstuffed on August 23, 2026, 08:03:03 PM
Quote from: J70 on August 23, 2026, 07:38:32 PM
Quote from: trueblue1234 on August 23, 2026, 06:32:50 PMBit of a smash and grab there!! Not at the races for large parts of the game. That defence is going to be a nightmare this year.
Thought Liverpool were static and slow in the most. Not a great sign, but early days.

I thought it was more the midfield that was the issue on those breaks (not saying Kerkez and Frimpong were great). Massive holes for Newcastle to run through unchallenged. But it doesn't appear to be a priority in the transfer market.

Blessed to get an undeserved point. I thought Koumas and, especially Munoz, made a difference when they came on. Trying to cram Rio onto right wing is going to take a lot of work. He should be left on the other wing where he can make a difference.

The whole midfield getting caught ahead of the ball was the issue for both goals not really the defence ( although kerkez did looking like he was running in treacle)
Bright spots were Jaquet who looked good again and Munoz looked lively off the bench.
The full backs and the lack of balance in midfield look a real worry, not to mention another stinker from Isak who has yet to play well in a Liverpool shirt.

Isak was awful in that pre-season so it doesn't bode well. I'd give Kerkez some benefit of the doubt. Elanga is like Usain Bolt fast, he's regularly the top 3 highest speeds in the PL since he came to England. Over a similar distance he'll make most left backs look as poor as Kerkez.

I didn't see the game but the stats were very complimentary to Liverpool so I had assumed they played alright. Newcastle get a bit of luck with their goals and basically execute the chances to perfection, those 2 shots and Wissa's miss were basically all they had.
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Why I have decided to quit supporting Liverpool after 50 years
Jeff Bezos's links to Israel and his gutting of the Washington Post should be a wake-up call to all fans
Conor O'Callaghan
Sun Aug 23 2026 - 06:00•5 MIN READ










ExpandJeff Bezos has bought a 38 per cent stake in Liverpool through a consortium. His reasons for wanting a share in the Premier League club are unclear. Photograph: Chesnot/Getty Images
Last week, a consortium backed by the owner of Amazon, Jeff Bezos, bought a 38 per cent stake in Liverpool FC. This week, before the start of yet another Premier League season, I finally decided to stop supporting the club.
I started supporting Liverpool in 1976. In those 50 years, we lifted 11 league titles and six European Cups. In 1982, Liverpool drew my hometown, Dundalk FC, in the second round of the European Cup. I saw Kenny Dalglish, Ian Rush and Graeme Souness a stone's throw from the house in which I grew up, in which my mother still lives.
Since 2007, I've lived in Manchester and Sheffield. Getting the train over to Lime Street on match days, texting my son and brothers from the ground, having a pint in The Flat Iron surrounded by all the GAA county flags, has meant more to me than I can adequately describe. Put it like this: Liverpool feels the nearest to home an Irishman living in England can get.
I'm writing this wearing the jersey I bought in June 2019 for the night of the Champions League final. I'll wear it until this article is complete and then no more.
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The main sponsor emblazoned across my jersey is Standard Chartered, the insurance company. Its chief executive Bill Winters recently referred to 8,000 workers set to lose their jobs to AI as "lower-value human capital".
In Red Card: English Premier League sportswashing of Israel's atrocities against the Palestinians, a report published this May by the charity War on Want, Standard Chartered is listed among six companies "enabling Israel's atrocities with finance and fuel".
This season's jerseys include the logos of Axa and Expedia. The former retains investments in suppliers of military equipment used in Gaza. On the latter's website, with just a few clicks you can book a holiday rental in West Bank settlements designated illegal under international law.
Wearing these jerseys, of the clubs we love, we make ourselves sandwich-boards for their sponsors. As the Red Card report argues, "clubs are sportswashing the companies and normalising the atrocities. This is not only unethical but risks rendering them complicit in war crimes". In the report's league table of complicity, Liverpool come top.
If those war crimes in which their sponsors are arguably complicit render the clubs potentially complicit as well, then does my support of the club make me complicit? Bit of a stretch, possibly. But can I unequivocally say no to that implication? No.
In a report by the charity War on Want, Standard Chartered is listed among six companies 'enabling Israel's atrocities with finance and fuel'. Photograph: Robbie Jay Barratt - AMA/Getty Images
And so, I hereby stop. I chose to do the very thing no Liverpool fan is meant to do – to walk alone.
I'd love to think this is a blip, that very soon I'll be back in the Kop. But the Bezos consortium has first dibs of buying Liverpool outright within the year.
But why? Why do the billionaire class want to own football clubs such as Liverpool? The usual reasons are offloading existing debt, asset-stripping, using the brand's rich tradition to launder a dodgy reputation. Take your pick.
In Bezos's case, it may be nothing more than wishing to win one over on his old adversary Elon Musk, who only last year expressed a desire to buy Liverpool. What everyone agrees on is that Bezos, Lakshmi Mittal and Eduardo Saverin probably know nothing of the club, its history and its current team, and really couldn't care less.
Zarah Sultana, an Independent MP in the UK and herself a lifelong red, has taken to X to voice her objection to the news.
"Amazon is a central partner in Project Nimbus," Sultana writes, "providing cloud and AI services to the Israeli state. While Israel carries out a genocide against the Palestinian people, Amazon's technology helps underpin the infrastructure that makes it possible. And now that fortune is buying its way into Anfield."
"Liverpool is more than a business," she says, "it's a community. Supporters have a voice. We've used it before: against the Super League, against ticket price hikes and against owners who forgot what this club stands for. We MUST use it again."
Will fans rise up? Unlikely. On The Anfield Wrap, the thinking fan's platform and podcast, Karl Coppack lays out much the same horrifying evidence but ultimately concludes: "I'm weak and I'll always have my version of Liverpool to support, even though it directly contradicts the evidence of my own eyes. They can't touch that. I'll still support mine. Sometimes I wish I wouldn't."
Beyond Project Nimbus, Bezos's gutting of the Washington Post is fundamentally authoritarian. His ongoing war with mayor Zohran Mamdani over delivery drivers' contracts and wages in New York should give the willies to all the brilliant people who staff our backrooms. He thinks Donald Trump's second term has been "more mature, more disciplined". Tell that to the children of Renee Good, or any of the families of victims of Ice killings.
Conor O'Callaghan at Anfield for a Liverpool match
That such a person now co-owns more than a third of Liverpool FC, and could one day own it outright, is beyond the pale. That he and his gallery of ghouls might soon sit in the directors' box, in a city with such profound roots in the Labour movement and trade unions and human rights, is a bridge too far.
And if this isn't a bridge too far, then nothing matters. Sign Andrew Tate and his little brother. Give Itamar Ben-Gvir a two-year contract: we could use reinforcements on the right.
And no, I won't be supporting any other Premier League club.
Arsenal, joint-second in the Red Card league table of complicity, have just announced a new sponsorship agreement with Deel, a US company which has supported and donated to the Israel Defense Forces. Manchester City, joint-fourth with their local rivals in that same table, is owned by the royal family of the United Arab Emirates, and the United Nations has long concluded that the UAE contributed financially to ethnic cleansing and genocide in Sudan.
Support for these clubs is support for those horrors their owners in turn support. I've been one of the millions, like yourself – yes, you reading this article right now – who turn a blind eye daily to this uncomfortable fact. Who give them our money.
The clubs we've all supported and loved are controlled by bad folks who patently know nothing about football, who care zilch for grassroots support and are doing everything in their unfathomable power to squeeze out season ticket holders forever, who make capital off the suffering of innocent people.
If you can pretend otherwise, knock yourself out. I wish I could do the same, and continue to wear the red jersey out of blind sentiment, but I can't.
♦ Conor O'Callaghan is a novelist and the author of Red Mist: Roy Keane and the Football Civil War (2004)

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RedHand88

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Full backs very poor. Gravenberch caught out of position for both goals really.
Isak might turn out to be the worst bit of business in the history of the club. It's been a year and there is nothing there. His resale value now would be a fraction of what we paid for him.

With the first round of games almost done it's hard to look past Arsenal again.

Time for Bezos to get the cheque book out!  ;D

Armamike

Iraola has the same issue Slot had last season.  For some reason the people involved in recruitment don't think it's necessary to buy any defence minded players - players who can break up play and win tackles.  Haven't bought a proper defensive midfielder in years.  We have a bunch of players who all want to play in the same zone on the pitch.  Isak isn't contributing anything but it's not made easier by the lack of space to operate in.  Now linked with wingers only. Hopefully not more players who like to cut in and take up the space where Isak should be.  Wirtz a big problem at this point.
That's just, like your opinion man.

tiempo

Have we a latter day Wenger era inbound? Wirtz is every bit the Ozil/Arshavin, Isak would make Bendtner look like a Balloon Dior contenter at the minute