The OFFICIAL Liverpool FC thread - #DankeJürgen

[thewobbler]

Looks like injuries are going to keep happening this season for all sides.  Will be interesting to see the stats compared to previous years.

Is it really though?

From my (admittedly poorly researched) vantage point, Liverpool are going through the same spate of injuries to key players that all the other top clubs have periodically endured over the past few seasons. It seems unusual to Liverpool as they got through 19/20 with very light injuries to their first XI.

[gawa316]

Looks like injuries are going to keep happening this season for all sides.  Will be interesting to see the stats compared to previous years.

Is it really though?

From my (admittedly poorly researched) vantage point, Liverpool are going through the same spate of injuries to key players that all the other top clubs have periodically endured over the past few seasons. It seems unusual to Liverpool as they got through 19/20 with very light injuries to their first XI.

I've done no research on this either so have no idea the figures behind Liverpool's injuries last season and other clubs but we were without Alisson, Matip, Fabinho, Henderson, Keita, Ox, Lovren and Shaq for extended periods of time. I could be wrong but because city were without Laporte and Sane for a large chunk, people just seemed to think they had loads of injuries and we had none.

[thewobbler]

Klopp had a pretty clear "cup final XI" last season (partly enforced by Matip's absence). The vast majority of them played in 32+ matches, and all of them played 28+ matches.

It doesn't mean they weren't knocked a bit by injuries. But in a season where they were competing in every possible trophy, that's a hefty return in my estimation.

[gawa316]

Klopp had a pretty clear "cup final XI" last season (partly enforced by Matip's absence). The vast majority of them played in 32+ matches, and all of them played 28+ matches.

It doesn't mean they weren't knocked a bit by injuries. But in a season where they were competing in every possible trophy, that's a hefty return in my estimation.

Do you have figures for say City or other clubs?

[thewobbler]

Klopp had a pretty clear "cup final XI" last season (partly enforced by Matip's absence). The vast majority of them played in 32+ matches, and all of them played 28+ matches.

It doesn't mean they weren't knocked a bit by injuries. But in a season where they were competing in every possible trophy, that's a hefty return in my estimation.

Do you have figures for say City or other clubs?

No I've been clear this this is poorly researched. But for an entire season you could pretty much be sure that 8-9 of the first XI was playing for Liverpool. City is a harder comparison because they always swap players out. United, Spurs, Arsenal, Chelsea though was pure lucky bag stuff (apart from immediately after Covid when United settled into same team every week).

Spurs are going through a similar thing at present this season. There's been minor knocks to Lo Celso and Dier. But you know who 8-9 starters are going to be every week. Jose's got the same spine and width out every week.

[blewuporstuffed]

The new training ground is looking impressive

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eiWeLpaBBtM

[GetOverTheBar]

Joe Gomez potentially "seriously injured".

[BennyCake]

Joe Gomez potentially "seriously injured".

Does that mean life threatening or a long spell off from football?

[GetOverTheBar]

https://www.skysports.com/football/news/11095/12130019/joe-gomez-liverpool-defender-suffers-injury-during-england-training

Football.

[J70]

https://www.skysports.com/football/news/11095/12130019/joe-gomez-liverpool-defender-suffers-injury-during-england-training

Football.

Fuckin hell.

Matip is made of glass.

Fabinho misses games here and there too.

TAA out also.

There could be matches where you'll have Phillips and two Williams in the back four.

[blewuporstuffed]

Id imagine if Gomez injury is anyway remotely long term, it will force Klopps hand an he will have to bring someone in In January .
If its only a matter of weeks, hopefully they can get by with Fabino & Matip.
The young Williams lad has done pretty well when called upon, but I wouldnt fancy him against Vardy in the next PL game or  against some of the better CL sides. Its a  big step up

[quit yo jibbajabba]

Knee. Months not weeks is the current rumour.

Jan not long away......

[GetOverTheBar]

Same knee that he done last time? Not good.

[laoislad]

Knee. Months not weeks is the current rumour.

Jan not long away......

8 league games between then and now though...

[TabClear]

Knee. Months not weeks is the current rumour.

Jan not long away......

8 league games between then and now though...

Unfortunately I think that might just be the league gone. Hard to see us not dropping significant points now with a makeshift defence. Even if we did buy big in Jan I think it would be a step too far. Fabinho/Matip/Williams could probably cope ok against the weaker teams but I would fear for us against real pace. (Vardy?)

We might see a return to attack being the best form of defence like under Brodge "you score 2, we'll score 3" which could be interesting!