The OFFICIAL Liverpool FC thread - #DankeJürgen

Started by Gabriel_Hurl, February 05, 2009, 03:47:16 PM

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laoislad

Second string not up to it tonight.Hoever looks like a fantastic prospect though. Never nice to lose but I'm pretty much over that already.
Jimenez and Neves are excellent players for Wolves.
When you think you're fucked you're only about 40% fucked.

From the Bunker

Well, sadly the intense fixture list caught up with us! You can only spin so many plates at a time. Well done Wolves! If we had got a lower division side we'd have had a chance with the starting line-up! Never like to lose, even when you know this competition could be a hindrance this year!

markl121

Fabinho was a decent cb, hoever was grand. Moreno awful and I'm worried about how poor keita has been. Must win against Brighton.

From the Bunker

Quote from: markl121 on January 07, 2019, 09:45:50 PM
Fabinho was a decent cb, hoever was grand. Moreno awful and I'm worried about how poor keita has been. Must win against Brighton.

Keita's simple through ball pass to Salah near the end was kack!

markl121

Summed up his general performance. I had hoped we were getting a kante type player with a bit more forward ability but as of now I'd have Lucas back instead.

sid waddell

Good result. The FA Cup is a dead competition which nobody gives a shit about anymore.

Liverpool can now concentrate on what matters rather than wasting valuable time and resources.

bennydorano


dec

https://www.liverpoolfc.com/news/first-team/333226-dejan-lovren-injury-update-liverpool-wolves

Jürgen Klopp confirmed Dejan Lovren sustained a hamstring injury during Liverpool's 2-1 defeat at Wolverhampton Wanderers in the FA Cup on Monday night.

The centre-back was forced from the field after just six minutes of the third-round encounter at Molineux, with the Reds needing to call upon 16-year-old Ki-Jana Hoever to replace him.

Klopp told his post-match press conference: "[It is his] hamstring, is what I heard - without any signs before. I asked everybody, no signs, nothing, just out of the blue, so that's the decision you have to make.

"I am not sure what you all would have said if immediately from the beginning if our centre-half situation was Fabinho and Ki-Jana; then probably a few very smart people would tell me that I don't respect the competition or whatever.

"So, we tried to do all the things [we could]. Of course, on the other hand it doesn't make sense to bring in a 16-year-old boy from the start. You don't bring him, you wait until he is completely ready, but he did well. He came on and did well. That's how it sometimes starts - when you are really needed then it is only about if you are good enough and not how old you are.

"He did well, so that was all OK. That's it."

Asked about the potential length of time Lovren is facing on the sidelines, Klopp replied: "I don't know in this moment."

Aaron Boone

To make you feel old, Hoever was only born in 2002.


Hound

Honestly, would prefer to be still in the FA Cup, but Klopp was 100% correct to rest Alisson, Virgil, Robbo and the 3 lads. And without those 6, the Wolves team was better than the Liverpool team, especially as that Liverpool team hadn't played together. Pity that Hendo and Lallana felt ill prior to the game and thus couldnt play. Might have made a difference and we could really have done with an easy draw against a lower league team. Them's the breaks.

But it's all about Brighton!

brokencrossbar1

Given the team that played 2-1 was a decent result.  Hoever looks very promising,  has all the moves of VVD and if he can train with him regular and model himself on him there is a real diamond waiting there.  Was disappointed in some of the more senior players but the reality is that the likes of Shaq and Sturridge are the type of players that need better players to benefit them.  Sturridge simply doesn't have the legs any more,  Shaq needs movement in front of him and was sometimes playing too deep.  Milner was very poor but he is not a central MF unless he has a Henderson beside him.  Keita still seems to be finding it very hard to adjust though I think he will make the breakthrough, Mignolet showed why he should never have the ball played to his feet as several of his passes out put players under pressure unnecessarily.  Moreno was Moreno and he's simply playing out his contract.  Origi put a shift in after he scored the goal but he will be gone soon enough too.  There will likely be 4 of that starting team gone by the summer and possibly even Milner if he wants to finish his career at Leeds if they come up,  there were 3 players who were born in the 2000's who will be bit part players for the next few seasons at best, so really the only ones who started who will be defintiely 1st teamers are Lovern, Shaq and Fabinho.

Brighton is all that counts and restarting the push for the League.

blewuporstuffed

Not the end of the world that they are out of the FA cup, it may be a good thing in the long run, but the performance itself was disappointing. It is hard to draw many positives from it.
The senior players that you thought would be trying to play their way into contention were all very poor.
The young lads , apart from Hoever who i thought was very good, struggled as well.
In fairness to them its not easy to come intoa  cobbled togtehr team and make an impact.
Fabino did rightly at CB and at least proved he could be a decent stop game there.
I would let sturridge go in this window if there was a buyer for him, i just dont think he offers you anything anymore.Moreno was a disaster as well and needs to move on, but the lack of defensive cover means he will likely stay to the end of the season
I can only please one person per day. Today is not your day. Tomorrow doesn't look good either

From the Bunker

Quote from: blewuporstuffed on January 08, 2019, 11:12:22 AM
Not the end of the world that they are out of the FA cup, it may be a good thing in the long run, but the performance itself was disappointing. It is hard to draw many positives from it.
The senior players that you thought would be trying to play their way into contention were all very poor.
The young lads , apart from Hoever who i thought was very good, struggled as well.
In fairness to them its not easy to come intoa  cobbled togtehr team and make an impact.
Fabino did rightly at CB and at least proved he could be a decent stop game there.
I would let sturridge go in this window if there was a buyer for him, i just dont think he offers you anything anymore.Moreno was a disaster as well and needs to move on, but the lack of defensive cover means he will likely stay to the end of the season

I'd hold onto Sturridge until the summer, he is the type of player that can steal a game when brought on with 15 minutes to go when Mane/Mo/Rob have ran out of ideas.

To be fair to all the players last night, it is hard to be thrown together in such a mishmash and expect a cohesive functional unit.

blewuporstuffed

Quote from: From the Bunker on January 08, 2019, 11:23:16 AM
Quote from: blewuporstuffed on January 08, 2019, 11:12:22 AM
Not the end of the world that they are out of the FA cup, it may be a good thing in the long run, but the performance itself was disappointing. It is hard to draw many positives from it.
The senior players that you thought would be trying to play their way into contention were all very poor.
The young lads , apart from Hoever who i thought was very good, struggled as well.
In fairness to them its not easy to come intoa  cobbled togtehr team and make an impact.
Fabino did rightly at CB and at least proved he could be a decent stop game there.
I would let sturridge go in this window if there was a buyer for him, i just dont think he offers you anything anymore.Moreno was a disaster as well and needs to move on, but the lack of defensive cover means he will likely stay to the end of the season

I'd hold onto Sturridge until the summer, he is the type of player that can steal a game when brought on with 15 minutes to go when Mane/Mo/Rob have ran out of ideas.

To be fair to all the players last night, it is hard to be thrown together in such a mishmash and expect a cohesive functional unit.

He certainly used to be, but he was so so poor last night.
He looks like he is done
I can only please one person per day. Today is not your day. Tomorrow doesn't look good either

brokencrossbar1

Quote from: From the Bunker on January 08, 2019, 11:23:16 AM
Quote from: blewuporstuffed on January 08, 2019, 11:12:22 AM
Not the end of the world that they are out of the FA cup, it may be a good thing in the long run, but the performance itself was disappointing. It is hard to draw many positives from it.
The senior players that you thought would be trying to play their way into contention were all very poor.
The young lads , apart from Hoever who i thought was very good, struggled as well.
In fairness to them its not easy to come intoa  cobbled togtehr team and make an impact.
Fabino did rightly at CB and at least proved he could be a decent stop game there.
I would let sturridge go in this window if there was a buyer for him, i just dont think he offers you anything anymore.Moreno was a disaster as well and needs to move on, but the lack of defensive cover means he will likely stay to the end of the season

I'd hold onto Sturridge until the summer, he is the type of player that can steal a game when brought on with 15 minutes to go when Mane/Mo/Rob have ran out of ideas.

To be fair to all the players last night, it is hard to be thrown together in such a mishmash and expect a cohesive functional unit.

Don't think so anymore.  He has scored 7 goals in 37 games in the last 2 seasons.  The odd piece of magic does not hide the fact that he is not up to it anymore.  He won't go this window as his wages are simply too high.  He will be here till the summer and then we will see.