Lawless Republic

[Armagh18]

This thread's gone  ultra Tory

You understand it's satirical to highlight the absurdity of the "an immigrant who commits crimes needs fucked outta here" crowd, yes?

Why is it absurd?
An Irish man committing a crime here can't be sent 'back' because he's an Irish citizen who was born and reared here.

An immigrant who comes here and contributes nothing to our society, and actually commits crimes, so is a negative to our society and a potential danger, is a different story.
I see it as quite reasonable to say you're not welcome here, you need to leave.

Absolutely. Immigration is obviously a huge net positive for the country, but theres no reason to keep the minority of scumbags that come in as we've enough of our own. As for the Irish ones, root cause needs looked at, more opportunities for young people to keep them out of crime, harsher sentences for the lost causes. 

[Tubberman]

Who says he contributes nothing to society? Or is incapable of doing so? Is there a threshold when it comes to crimes that determine whether he should be fucked out or not?

If he's convicted of a crime, that's sufficient for me. I propose we start with that and refine from there as needed.

[gallsman]

So any immigrant, convicted of any crime, should be automatically deported?

And you don't think that's absurd?

[Tubberman]

So any immigrant, convicted of any crime, should be automatically reported?

And you don't think that's absurd?

I presume you mean deported.
You could maybe have an exclusion list of some lesser offences but by and large I think that's reasonable.
What do you find absurd?

Criminal offences in Ireland are broadly classified into categories such as Public Order, Non-Fatal Offences Against the Person, Theft and Fraud, Sexual Offences, and Drug Offences.
These crimes are prosecuted in the Irish courts as either summary offences (less serious, heard in the District Court) or indictable offences (serious, heard with a judge and jury).

Common criminal offences in Ireland include:

1. Non-Fatal Offences Against the Person (Regulated by the Non-Fatal Offences Against the Person Act 1997)
Assault: Intentionally causing physical harm or the apprehension of immediate harm.
Assault causing harm or causing serious harm.
Harassment and stalking (including communication-based offenses under the Harassment, Harmful Communications and Related Offences Act 2020).
False imprisonment: Unlawfully detaining or restricting another person's freedom.
Endangerment and threats to kill or cause serious harm.

2. Theft, Fraud, and Property Offences (Regulated by the Criminal Justice (Theft and Fraud Offences) Act 2001)
Theft: Unlawfully taking someone else's property with the intent to permanently deprive them of it.
Burglary: Entering a building without authorization with the intent to commit a crime.
Robbery: Using force or the threat of force to steal property.
Deception offenses: Obtaining services or causing loss by deception, and false accounting.Handling or possessing stolen property.
Criminal damage: Intentionally or recklessly destroying or damaging property (Criminal Damage Act 1991).

3. Public Order Offences (Regulated by the Criminal Justice (Public Order) Act 1994)Intoxication in a public place.Threatening, abusive, or insulting behaviour in public.Riot, violent disorder, and affray.Failure to comply with the direction of a member of An Garda Síochána.Trespass on a building or land without consent.

4. Sexual OffencesActs of non-consensual sexual activity, including rape and sexual assault (Criminal Law (Rape) Act 1981, Criminal Law (Sexual Offences) Act 2006, and subsequent legislation).

5. Drug Offences (Regulated by the Misuse of Drugs Act 1977)Possession of controlled substances for personal use.Possession for unlawful sale or supply.Importation of controlled drugs.

6. Other Notable OffencesRoad Traffic Offences: Including drink driving, dangerous driving, and driving without insurance (Road Traffic Acts).Firearms and weapons offences.Treason (Treason Act 1939) and piracy.Cybercrime: Offences relating to information systems and unauthorized use of a computer.

[Milltown Row2]

Here's where your government's are failing you, and by the way its the same governments you have voted in for the past 100 odd years, so essentially the fault lies with YOU

Failure to processes properly every person that comes to the country.

They have to meet the criteria, you're allowed to stay with boundaries until such time as you prove to be a citizen that contributes

Those that have not met the criteria have to be sent back to whatever country they claim they are from. That said I'm not sure how difficult that is as those countries probably don't want them back and might not be an agreement in place..

Limits on the amount of people allowed in

Failure to monitor those'd processed for a period of time to see how they have gained employment and so on

Failure to plan for large migration where in, not have the infrastructure to facilitate education housing health etc

If the EU are pushing this then there has to be funding to facilitate it and not stick a plaster as a permanent fix on a leaking dam

I don't know a 'lefty' that wants mass immigration or turns a blind eye to the criminals that have made their way here, what's criminal though is the way racism is now trendy and acceptable by so many people

Seen a thing on social media of a man at Yorkgate in Belfast being chased by a guy with a knife, not saying he wasn't but a quick check on his social media and the guy was involved in recent racist protest and his content is disgusting. Would not be surprised he hurled abuse and the guys went for him..

The government is getting away with no protests, it's easier to burn hotels

[Armagh18]

Here's where your government's are failing you, and by the way its the same governments you have voted in for the past 100 odd years, so essentially the fault lies with YOU

Failure to processes properly every person that comes to the country.

They have to meet the criteria, you're allowed to stay with boundaries until such time as you prove to be a citizen that contributes

Those that have not met the criteria have to be sent back to whatever country they claim they are from. That said I'm not sure how difficult that is as those countries probably don't want them back and might not be an agreement in place..

Limits on the amount of people allowed in

Failure to monitor those'd processed for a period of time to see how they have gained employment and so on

Failure to plan for large migration where in, not have the infrastructure to facilitate education housing health etc

If the EU are pushing this then there has to be funding to facilitate it and not stick a plaster as a permanent fix on a leaking dam

I don't know a 'lefty' that wants mass immigration or turns a blind eye to the criminals that have made their way here, what's criminal though is the way racism is now trendy and acceptable by so many people

Seen a thing on social media of a man at Yorkgate in Belfast being chased by a guy with a knife, not saying he wasn't but a quick check on his social media and the guy was involved in recent racist protest and his content is disgusting. Would not be surprised he hurled abuse and the guys went for him..

The government is getting away with no protests, it's easier to burn hotels

Good post MR.

Seen that one, if theres even truth to it I'm sure the same p***k didn't get chased for being a good boy.

[Captain Scarlet]

Again to bring this back to Skerries. The lads who hate the blacks (for want of a better phrase) were going mad over the initial row and are fairly quite when the lad who drove over people in his car is a white Irish lad with loads of convictions.

This is the fella - https://www.rte.ie/news/leinster/2025/0604/1516696-man-charged-with-gun-drugs-possession-in-drogheda/

How is he out and about?!

[gallsman]

So any immigrant, convicted of any crime, should be automatically reported?

And you don't think that's absurd?

I presume you mean deported.
You could maybe have an exclusion list of some lesser offences but by and large I think that's reasonable.
What do you find absurd

Ok, so you're already admitting that there's a bit of nuance to it? That "commit a crime and get the f**k out" isn't really a great place to start?

[AustinPowers]

What's the threshold  crime level for deportation  from  say, Australia or the US?

[Tony Baloney]

Again to bring this back to Skerries. The lads who hate the blacks (for want of a better phrase) were going mad over the initial row and are fairly quite when the lad who drove over people in his car is a white Irish lad with loads of convictions.

This is the fella - https://www.rte.ie/news/leinster/2025/0604/1516696-man-charged-with-gun-drugs-possession-in-drogheda/

How is he out and about?!

With I had a Revolut balance like that chap.

[Armagh18]

Again to bring this back to Skerries. The lads who hate the blacks (for want of a better phrase) were going mad over the initial row and are fairly quite when the lad who drove over people in his car is a white Irish lad with loads of convictions.

This is the fella - https://www.rte.ie/news/leinster/2025/0604/1516696-man-charged-with-gun-drugs-possession-in-drogheda/

How is he out and about?!

Remanded in custody June 2025, was he found not guilty or get bail at a later date?

Sounds like a lovely fella

[DaleCooper]

Again to bring this back to Skerries. The lads who hate the blacks (for want of a better phrase) were going mad over the initial row and are fairly quite when the lad who drove over people in his car is a white Irish lad with loads of convictions.

This is the fella - https://www.rte.ie/news/leinster/2025/0604/1516696-man-charged-with-gun-drugs-possession-in-drogheda/

How is he out and about?!

With I had a Revolut balance like that chap.

€200k going through a Revolut account. You have to laugh tbh.

[Tubberman]

So any immigrant, convicted of any crime, should be automatically reported?

And you don't think that's absurd?

I presume you mean deported.
You could maybe have an exclusion list of some lesser offences but by and large I think that's reasonable.
What do you find absurd

Ok, so you're already admitting that there's a bit of nuance to it? That "commit a crime and get the f**k out" isn't really a great place to start?

I said that from the beginning

[David McKeown]

What's the threshold  crime level for deportation  from  say, Australia or the US?

In the US it's an offence that offends against moral turpitude within 5 years or two or more life time. (Offence must carry a minimum maximum sentence of 1 year.

Alternatively an aggravated felony will almost certainly result in deportation

Drugs firearms and domestic violence offences can also result in deportation

Some states have more nuanced rules although it's by and large a federal matter.