Qualifiers--there's an angry mob of losers gathering at the back door

[J OGorman]

Cork are All Ireland contender, under Counihan they have won league titles and All Ireland they will beat the winner of Armagh or Galway simply because both are not at Corks level.

If you're trying to sell anyone on Counihan being anything more than a lucky manager to have taken over a well-financed and talented panel you're onto a loser. Even the man on the street selling straw hats can see Counihan has been the biggest impediment to Cork reaching the potential over the last half a decade or so. Not tactically aware and I'm starting to doubt he doesn't really know how to evaluate players correctly, be it who to start or what system is best suited to the players he has.

I expect Cork to win their R4 match but I wouldn't be spilling any tea if I heard the Leeside whales had been beached.

Most good managers are lucky only the few are great. In 2009 they lost All Ireland final, 2011 probably hungover after the 2010 success and last year a top Donegal team beat them. Nobody in the know will be writing off this Cork team.

They're the fourth best team in the country, more likely to beat one of the top three than anyone else, and certainly more likely to do something than Kerry who have at best a loss to Dublin in the AISF to look forward to. Fourth this year is still well off championship-winning pace so I feel it's unlikely we'll see them lifting Sam come September.

Once you let go of the coattails of Mayo you may realise Cork and Kerry are All Ireland contenders. Number one will be known by the end of September and thats all that matters.

No Roscommon man has any great love of Mayo. It's the way the wind is blowing and too many people aren't willing to admit that Kerry aren't true contenders. Yes, they were a truly great team, they're 'Kerry' but they are still too old to be genuinely backable for the AI.

There's a convervatsim that's attaching itself to analysis here and in the media that dictates you don't write off Kerry or Cork but state that their chance are relatively remote isn't writing them off, it's looking at the draw and the form of other younger, hungrier and better prepared (than Cork, Kerry are well prepared at the very least) teams.

Saying the emperor has no clothes is too extreme but there is a slight illusion about Cork and Kerry that is being sold here and in broadcast journalism.

Buck all to do with what the journalists are saying. Kerry will be there or thereabouts. fantastic ball players in every sector.  Cork im not so sure of. Sam will  be returning to the great north-west, kerry or dublin. Mayo, id be very surprised if they make the final. Its a great part of the year to be a GAA follower. Games coming thick and fast

[Dinny Breen]

Dia Sathairn   27 - 07 - 2013

Galway/Armagh v Cork
5-00pm   Croke Park

Kildare/Tyrone v Meath
7-00pm   Croke Park

I assume they're hoping Armagh win, a Cork v Galway game could be held in my backyard and still wouldn't sell out.

Yeah, Cork fans don't like the present team and Galway fans must be finding the going tough at the moment.

With Kildare and Armagh losing plus Galway and Cork playing in Semple the next day and by all accounts there was nearly as many sheep in Newbridge as Tyrone supporters will the GAA see the folly of their ways and move these games away from Croke Park?

[Syferus]

Dia Sathairn   27 - 07 - 2013

Galway/Armagh v Cork
5-00pm   Croke Park

Kildare/Tyrone v Meath
7-00pm   Croke Park

I assume they're hoping Armagh win, a Cork v Galway game could be held in my backyard and still wouldn't sell out.

Yeah, Cork fans don't like the present team and Galway fans must be finding the going tough at the moment.

With Kildare and Armagh losing plus Galway and Cork playing in Semple the next day and by all accounts there was nearly as many sheep in Newbridge as Tyrone supporters will the GAA see the folly of their ways and move these games away from Croke Park?

I'll have you know we're gearing up for the Connacht final tomorrow and weren't about to be trotting off to Newbridge, no matter how impressive Geezer's biceps were.

[Captain Obvious]

Round four games should be played away from Croke park. Somewhere like Tullamore could have hosted the Galway v Cork,Tyrone v Meath double header.

[Dont Matter]

Update:
1. Beat Carlow DONE
2. Beat Clare DONE
3. Beat Wexford
4. Beat Monaghan
5. Beat Mayo
6. Beat Donegal
7. Beat Dublin
8. Getting closer!

1. Beat Carlow DONE
2. Beat Clare DONE
3. Beat Wexford DONE
4. Beat Monaghan
5. Beat Mayo
6. Beat Donegal
7. Beat Dublin
8. Put your money on before it's too late!