The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread

[GalwayBayBoy]

I thought you said 'He was superior to Rush in every way'.

My mistake if you didn't. Whoever said that is who I should have been addressing earlier on.

I meant that I didnt make the initial comparison, Lynchboy did and I and never would consider both as similar.  Lynchboy said that Rush would have scored twice as many as Larsson given the opportunity.  My view is that Larsson was the superior player as Rush was essentially a poacher with not a lot else to his game.

Except the most important thing for a striker. He could put the ball in the back of the net with monotonous regularity.

[corn02]

Jesus comparing Rush with Larson, catch a grip.

[lynchbhoy]

I thought you said 'He was superior to Rush in every way'.

My mistake if you didn't. Whoever said that is who I should have been addressing earlier on.

I meant that I didnt make the initial comparison, Lynchboy did and I and never would consider both as similar.  Lynchboy said that Rush would have scored twice as many as Larsson given the opportunity.  My view is that Larsson was the superior player as Rush was essentially a poacher with not a lot else to his game.

it wasnt a'comparison' itwas to highlight that given the same chances Rush would have scored 100 to Larssons 50.
They are a diff kind of player and thats what I thought most people would have taken from that illustration (rather than comparison).

[stevo-08]

Benitez still wants to sign Barry
Rafael Benitez has confirmed he must sell again to bring Gareth Barry to Liverpool after completing the £20.3million signing of Robbie Keane.

The Reds manager insists that is what he aims to do, but he has no intention of selling Spain international Alvaro Arbeloa.

Liverpool are believed to have had a £7million bid from Sevilla for the 25-year-old, but Benitez has made it clear the player is going nowhere, despite speculation defender Arbeloa wants to return to Spain for personal reasons.

Benitez maintains there is no truth in the assumption Arbeloa is eager to leave and the former Deportivo La Coruna player will be part of his plans in the coming season.

But there is no question that Benitez still wants to sign former Aston Villa skipper Barry, the subject of a summer-long saga which has frayed tempers at Villa Park and Anfield.

Benitez could sell Jermaine Pennant, Andriy Voronin or Steve Finnan, but it is still more likely that he will persuade Xabi Alonso to leave if he can get a £15million-plus bid for the Spanish midfielder.

After completing the Keane deal, Benitez talked in terms of one more major departure rather than a string of smaller deals, to finance an £18million move for Barry.

Benitez said: "We knew that we could only spend money by selling players and we have been doing this (for Keane).

"We are still trying to sign the players that we need, and if we need to sell someone now, okay, we will do so.

"If we can do it (the Barry deal) before the end of the transfer window, we will continue to try. We will always continue to improve our squad."

Benitez was delighted to finally land Keane, and he declined to discuss Tottenham chairman Daniel Levy's anger over how the move was concluded.

Benitez said: "We are pleased he is here. We dealt well with Mr Levy, and my role was to bring the player here as quickly as possible.

"Robbie is one of the very best forwards in the Premier League. He is settled and more than used to the requirements. He is a good professional with a solid mentality, obviously I am pleased he is here, other managers would say the same.

"Robbie can play alongside (Fernando) Torres and (Dirk) Kuyt, and also (Steven) Gerrard. He is clever and is the right kind of player.

"He can play on the right, he can play up front. If you have clever players it makes it easier for the manager."

He added: "If you play 4-4-2, Keane can play alongside Torres. If we play 4-2-3-1 he can play as a second striker or on the right.

"He is the kind of player who is adaptable, and can be used in different positions and will give you 100%.

"Robbie is intelligent, he can play on the right and he can adapt. He is a very positive signing.

"He scored twice at Anfield last season, he knows where he has to be to score and where he must be to support team-mates. He is very clever.

"We have known he was a good player for a long time, the goals he scored against us just underlined what we already knew.

"We wanted the player, he said he was a Liverpool fan and wanted to come here. We are happy, our fans are happy."



Seems rafa wants keane to play on the right.... A 4-2-3-1 formation The 3 being - babel, gerard, keane perhaps!!!! Or maybe Rafa's thinking about Barry-Gerrard-Keane if he can finally get his man...

[lynchbhoy]

thought kuyt was decent on the wing for holland in the euro 08's. him on the right and keane in the centre along with torres is what I'd pick,  but I'm not the multi milionaire high earning sharp suited liverpool manager!

[magpie seanie]

he can play on the right

Seems my thinking is not that far wrong.

Amazed no-one agreed/disagreed with my Andy Cole comparison. 4 chances to each goal the pair of them.

[lynchbhoy]

he can play on the right

Seems my thinking is not that far wrong.

Amazed no-one agreed/disagreed with my Andy Cole comparison. 4 chances to each goal the pair of them.

the newcastle andy cole or the man u version ?

[magpie seanie]

Same guy, different division mostly.

Edit - just checked there and I'm incorrect with the above. Played only one season in lower division for the toon.

Same guy alright (possibly a better than his average conversion rate the year before he came to United - maybe that's another comparison!).

[new devil]

Yous are still buying 2nd string players and thinking yous will win the league 

[fred the red]

As a utd fan, i have to say that the keane signing is a fantastic bit of business by benitez, even if he is a bit pricey.

I think this is last chance saloon for benitez tho! if he messes up this season he will be shown the door.

[Gabriel_Hurl]

Yous are still buying 2nd string players and thinking yous will win the league 

yous?

[Hound]

Seems rafa wants keane to play on the right.... A 4-2-3-1 formation The 3 being - babel, gerard, keane perhaps!!!! Or maybe Rafa's thinking about Barry-Gerrard-Keane if he can finally get his man...

I believe the 4-2-3-1 formation is the one Rafa favours and will use most often. Keane can play in any of the front 4 positions. The "3" would be any from Gerrard, Keane, Babel, Kuyt, Benayoun. Mascherano and Alonso/Barry/Lucas being the "2".  Though with Mascherano, Lucas and Babel all missing, the starting formation/team vs Sunderland in 17 days is anyone's guess, but I think he'll go 4-4-2 with a midfield of Kuyt-Alonso/Barry-Gerrard-Aurelio.

[new devil]

sorry forgot a couple of these ''...... point still stands 

[Mentalman]

Picked this up off the Tim Vickery column on the BBC website (always well worth a read each week|)

Do you rate Fabio Aurelio? And do you know why he has never been called up to the Brazilian national team (especially considering the dearth of quality left-backs available to Brazil)? I watched him play last season for Liverpool and I thought he was absolutely terrific. I feel he embodies confidence when he is on the ball and knows exactly where his passes are going plus he isn't a bad tackler and has a pretty good free-kick.
Chris Kelesoglou

I rate him very highly - I think he's probably the most complete left-back Brazil have produced over the last few years. He was one of their few success stories in the 2000 Olympics and looked set for a good international career, pushing Roberto Carlos hard before eventually replacing him.
He has been called up for the senior squad, only to have to drop out through injury. Unfortunately the injuries have been a recurring problem, otherwise I am sure he would have achieved even more than he has with Valencia and Liverpool.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/football/7528298.stm

Interesting opinion from a guy who is more often right than wrong about South American players in my experience. Liverpool obviously haven't seen the best of him yet.

[brokencrossbar1]

Mental man he's hardly going to turn around and say he is a load of w**k and shouldn't be anywhere near a Liverpool team. 

For what it is worth he is a handy player but as Vickery says he is injury prone.  That is why he is better in CL games than in th Premier League as there is less contact and he can play ball.