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Title: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: Gabriel_Hurl on November 09, 2006, 10:52:45 PM
Get your names in here lads.

You'll Never Walk Alone.
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: cicfada on November 09, 2006, 11:46:58 PM
wankers!
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: Gabriel_Hurl on November 09, 2006, 11:50:02 PM
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Post by cicfada is ignored  [reveal post]  [reveal all posts by cicfada]  [stop ignoring this user]

 :D :D
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: ziggysego on November 09, 2006, 11:51:32 PM
We can ignore Tony at the click of a button?  ;D
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: Gabriel_Hurl on November 09, 2006, 11:52:00 PM
No Ziggy - I'm only messing
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: ziggysego on November 09, 2006, 11:55:17 PM
No Ziggy - I'm only messing

Frick, I thought there was hope then  ;)
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: bingobus on November 10, 2006, 11:03:41 AM
Nice new board.

Arsenal to get stuffed at weekend. (Wishful thinking, I'll take a boring 0-1 off crouchs knee)
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: intoDwest on November 10, 2006, 12:01:59 PM
I agree with what cicfada said!!!!
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: The Meadow on November 10, 2006, 12:44:22 PM
I will take a draw Saturday as it is the toughest game Liverpool really have left!!! They have all the top teams at home from here in so just maybe there is still that glimmer of hope!! Oh they are going to win Europe again this year! ;)
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: AZOffaly on November 10, 2006, 01:03:03 PM
Good stuff lads. I see a lot of the threads have made it over :)
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: Dinny Breen on November 10, 2006, 02:04:44 PM
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I think we`ll beat Arsenal at the weekend,

Why are Liverpool fans always so delusional, Liverpool have an average defence, an excellent midfiled and a poor attack. I fully expect Arsenal to win this one comfortably.
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: The Meadow on November 10, 2006, 02:32:38 PM
Arsenal should have it as comfortable as they had last week at the hammers!!!! :-\
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: supersarsfields on November 10, 2006, 02:56:53 PM
We've reason to be delusional dinny. Success does that to a team!!  ;)

Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: Dinny Breen on November 10, 2006, 03:01:31 PM
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We've reason to be delusional dinny. Success does that to a team!!  ;)

Not in the Premiership, Liverpool are a good side more suited to cup competitions. Arsenal have paid the price in failing to convert chances, the Hammers deserved something last week. If Liverpool try and play football they will be beaten, if they put 10 men behind the ball they might get a point. A draw is no good for either side.
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: supersarsfields on November 10, 2006, 03:51:03 PM
"If Liverpool try and play football they will be beaten, if they put 10 men behind the ball they might get a point."

Sorry dinny but that's bollix!! Liverpool have enough good passers in the team now to be able to pass the ball about and play good football. I think your over-rating Arsenal and under rating Liverpool. Which is fair enough your an Arsenal supporter, just dont expect me to agree with you!!
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: J70 on November 12, 2006, 06:09:57 PM
Shocking stuff again from Liverpool today. I didn't think they could be as bad again as they were against United, but that was close! I doubt if Arsenal will get many easier points than that. No intensity or belief at all; too many players off-form or not up to scratch. The only positive is that the toughest away games have now been played, so it probably can't get any worse (well, it can't anyway, given that no points have been taken nor any goals scored in those games!).

Carragher very fortunate not to get a second yellow.
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: Dinny Breen on November 12, 2006, 07:36:13 PM
Why are Liverpool fans always so delusional, Liverpool have an average defence, an excellent midfiled and a poor attack. I fully expect Arsenal to win this one comfortably.

Who would have predicted  ;D
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: Dubh driocht on November 12, 2006, 08:22:10 PM
Nobody likes a smart arse.Even if he's right. So piss off Dinny.
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: Dinny Breen on November 12, 2006, 08:26:03 PM
Don't mean to offend but when someone tells me I'm talking bollix I'm entitled to reply, anyway no more WUM from me, I shall leave you to discuss....
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: heganboy on November 12, 2006, 10:19:29 PM
savage poor performance from Liverpool. I do wonder about selection with Liverpool sometimes. Really didn't think that Crouch and Kuyt were going to be able to do a job on Toure and Gallas. Disappointed with the whole showing today. Even Riise and Gerard were at each other. Poor all round
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: GalwayBayBoy on November 12, 2006, 11:52:25 PM
Woeful performance from the team today. Didn't even think Arsenal played all that great but we stank the place out. I'm baffled why we are so poor away from home in the Premiership.
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: winghalfun on November 13, 2006, 10:08:50 AM
I am starting to believe the rumours about Stevie G. He was piss poor. There seems to be definite problems in the camp. On paper this Liverpool team is not as bad as their results are showing.
Title: Normal Service has been resumed at Liverpool....
Post by: Over the Bar on November 13, 2006, 10:46:25 AM
...bottom half team. :P  They are as far a way from winning a league title now as they ever were under Houllier.  Hopefull Benitez's CL win will keep him in the job for at least another 5 years tho.  Makes for a very unhappy Christmas on merseyside tho, what with the Farepack running off with all their Christmas savings.
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: brokencrossbar1 on November 13, 2006, 10:52:36 AM
Are you all stupid or something?  They had a bad game yesterday and this happens. They have been on a decent run and lets face it Arsenal are a pretty damn good team.  Trophies are given out in April and May and while I don't expect them to win the League they are progressing.  Get some persepctive ffs.
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: glens73 on November 13, 2006, 11:13:30 AM
Are you all stupid or something?  They had a bad game yesterday and this happens. They have been on a decent run and lets face it Arsenal are a pretty damn good team.  Trophies are given out in April and May and while I don't expect them to win the League they are progressing.  Get some persepctive ffs.

I don't think they are progressing BC, they've lost 5 league games away already and have not scored ONE goal from open play, that is not progression. I'm not sure Benitez is suited to the premiership. I do think he is a good manager though, but he doesn't seem to be getting it right in the league.
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: J70 on November 13, 2006, 01:20:45 PM
Get a grip lads, for f**k's sake! Liverpool finished with more points last season than they did in most of their championship-winning seasons. They won the Champions League 18 months ago. Benitez has introduced a few new players who need time to adjust (which doesn't necessarily mean that they will), while quite a few players are off form. Anyone who writes Benitez off at this stage is just an idiot.
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: uselessfootballer on November 13, 2006, 01:36:55 PM
Would have to agree with the "don't panic" posts. The team's performance can only really be judged at the end of the season. Whilst I'm as disappointed as any lifelong fan to be so far behind at this stage, there is nothing to be gained by joining in with some sort of media driven feeding fenzy. The true worth, strength/weakness of the squad will be most accurately reflected in the end of season picture. In the meantime the manager must be allowed to continue with his rebuilding without every, in hindsight mistake, being jumped upon.
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: The Meadow on November 13, 2006, 02:05:44 PM
Yesterday was not the game for Benitez to be stubborn! This is the only reason why I can think he kept Stevie G on the wing!! He killed Steve Finnan all day!! With no outlet on the right for Liverpool Finnan was having to run up and down the wing all game and with Henry always pulling to the left on attacks it was clear to be seen thats were Arsenal were killing us!!   :-[  Chin up lads there is alot to play for yet!
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: johnneycool on November 13, 2006, 02:13:16 PM
I'm no Liverpool fan but surely Agger has to start instead of Hyppia for the rest of the season.

Bellamy must of really fucked Benitez off when he starts Crouch and Kuyte ahead of him. I suppose he hasnt' been scoring goals but away from home when possession is going to be limited you need a bit of pace up front.

Gerard isn't 100% for whatever reason and playing him in the centre isn't going to remedy it

Sissoko is a bigger loss than most Liverpudlians imagine

Pennant is worse than useless.

The Liverpool players don't look too confident with the zonal defencive strategy they are trying to use at set pieces.

Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: charlie stubbs on November 13, 2006, 03:15:35 PM
def agree a massive loss when we lost him last year for benfica games we went 2 shite.def wud have agger starting ahead of hyppia.crouch and kuyt are there on merit tho wiud agreee bellamys pace gives sumthin different even if he has been misfiring
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: Barney on November 13, 2006, 03:27:45 PM
Are Liverpool really any better off than under Houllier? Benitez has spent alot of money as well and bought badly it seems.
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: charlie stubbs on November 13, 2006, 03:56:25 PM
he is.very few managers would have won the european cup with the group of players we had in 2005.sissokko and alonso have been 2 great signings.reina went 10 or 11 games without conceding a goal, crouch has also done very well after a bad start and kuyt also looks the ticket.no matter wat u say bot garcia, he has a tremendous record in europe and gets alot of goals 4a midfielder not playing every week.agger also looks gud.il admit aurelio,gonzalez,zenden etc dont inspire me witrh confidence.we got 82 points last year that would have won the prem in previous years.away form is horrible but we have seven new signings and have played our big rivals as well as the top three challengers and bolton.
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: GalwayBayBoy on November 13, 2006, 04:01:56 PM
I think the manager has to take a look at himself as well as the players but our main problem I think is that we have too many players who are out of form currently. Gerrard and Carragher are the heartbeat of the side but both of them are playing well below last season's standards, Bellamy can't buy a goal, age is catching up with Hyppia, etc. This is dragging down the performance levels generally and confidence is low when we're not playing at Anfield.
Title: Re: GBB Comments
Post by: Cuchullainns Bhoy on November 13, 2006, 05:46:57 PM
''I think is that we have too many players who are out of form currently''

Yes, that is the problem and the current squad depth in terms of quality players that will take a leading role or have leading roles exected of them is lowered in comparison with Man U and Chelsea.

Take the Top four teams in England:

Man Utd:
Made signings over the summer and released players.
Man U look to Rooney and Giggs as well as Gary Neville for the leading roles, at the moment they are in form and Man U are refelcting that, also other smaller players have began to take more serious roles when it is not expected of them - Vidic, Scholes.
Should these top players drop in form the league position will inevitably be affected dropping thme to 2nd.

Chelsea:
Made two world class signings over the summer.
Teams like Chelsea are able to gel well together but in terms of leaders the start of this year would have seen Ballack and Sheva as being the main men on the squad with Terry and Lampard, As it stands Sheva and Ballack are still settling but again like Man U other players are filling lead roles boots, Didier Drogba (love him or hate him) and probably joint best this year Essien.
Unlike Man U if and is the current situations the big players have not hit form but when they do the league position will be bolstered which is why Chelsea will be champios again.

Arsenal:
Made their signings also.
Again simillar to Man U Asrenal look to big players to take the lead role, Henry Lehmann.
This year has seen quality signings in Rosicky and Gallas, these players are joined by others who are taking lead roles but are not outstanding which means a drop in form will no unsteady the progress of the team and therefore league position will be maintained possibly 3rd come end of season.



Now Liverpool,
Made signings over the summer which appear to be short term solutions. Bellamy and Fowler(last year) as well as Gonzales.
These players cannot take lead roles as it is not expected of them to do so. This leaves the 'old faithfuls' Sissoko and Gerrard. The Problem now is that Sissoko has been sidelined which leaves the pressure direct on Gerrard to bolster Liverpool as a team. Liverpool need more natural leaders. As stated liverpool are knockout cup champions as a big performance can be gained for these matches but it is about maintaining the form and big performances if the premierhsip is their goal.
Solution, play Gerrard where he is best suited to regain a bit of confidence in the team, let him leads as a leader and see if the other players around him can step up to the mark (Kuyt, Reina, Carragher etc.) as it will be needed should Gerrards poor form continue.
Verdict: Too reliant on Central Players and no fringe players make long/short term progress as leaders. They lack the Essiens and Scholes, consistently good players which will hit patches of good form, and to do this less rotation and let the plaers gel, especially in the run up to Christmas to get back on track and compete for European placement, possibly 5th this year.

Only a guess but i think thats whats holding up Liverpools league progression.
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: GalwayBayBoy on November 13, 2006, 07:41:53 PM
In mitigation we have had the hardest start in terms of league fixtures of any team in the Premiership. We've played Man U, Chelsea, Arsenal, Everton and Bolton all away from home. Arguably the five hardest away fixtures in the premiership for us. Still the performances have been well below par in those games but I still expect us to improve and to get a Champions League place especially given our easier run of games in the 2nd half of the season. Apart from that we're looking at the cups again.
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: cavanmaniac on November 14, 2006, 05:34:59 PM
Posted this on another forum in response to yet ANOTHER article lazily suggesting that simply moving Gerrard to the centre will be the solution to all our woes. IMHO Liverpool are stuck right in a nasty rut and moving Gerrard about won't fix it:

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All this weeping and whining and moaning about Gerrard in the centre is just masking the real problem at Liverpool IMO, and that problem is Benitez himself and his strait-jacket negative approach.

It might seem sacrilege to question a man who took us to a Champions League, but am I the only one who can see all too many parallels between himself and Houllier? Just like GH in that summer when we were supposed to be going on to challenge for a title, he’s made some signings that aren’t working. Just like that season, title aspirations were rapidly revised downwards to battling for fourth place, but most of all, we’re still playing like a Houllier team – functional, systematic, over burdened with ‘tactics’ and with no spark, life or fizz whatsoever.

We’re robotic and seem to be playing to a rigid system. We have wingers who receive the ball, put their foot on it, and pass backwards into midfield who then pass it back to Hyppia or Carragher, who then hoof it back to the opposition. Our players seem petrified of taking a chance at attacking the opposition for fear of losing the ball so you get the shuffling huff and puff we got against Arsenal last week. If you didn’t know the score and looked in you’d never have guessed Liverpool were trailing in the game such was their lack of urgency and forward momentum. All the spark and spontaneity seems to be coached out of our players. Look at Bellamy this season and compare him to last, look how Morientes has blossomed away from Benitez’ over cautious approach and stultifying tactics, look how Pennant has regressed from last year even in a poor team like Birmingham.

As soon as we go 1-0 down I just know it’s all over. Our turgid gameplan is totally predicated on not conceding first which might have been alright back when the defence was solid but it’s far from it now and we’re in major trouble any time we let a goal in. The loss of Hammann, who was one of the real heroes of Istanbul, is exposing our defence for what it is – porous when not shielded by an expert holding midfielder.

Forget about Gerrard on the right, that’s just the press obsessing about a big name England player and missing the very real factors that are under their noses.
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: GalwayBayBoy on November 14, 2006, 06:23:27 PM
The only thing about leaving Gerrard on the right is that IMO he's not even trying in that position anymore. Against Arsenal I thought he looked completely disinterested until he got moved into the middle. In his head he's given up on right midfield.

Do agree with a lot of what you said. Our play is so static it's untrue. Players are sticking to their positions and nobody is making runs. No movement in the team whatsoever. Full-backs are barely getting past half-way, midfielders are not making runs into the box, etc.

Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: AZOffaly on November 14, 2006, 06:25:33 PM
Cavan maniac, whatever about the selection/rotation policies, the poor form or whatever the statement that when Liverpool concede it is over is not borne out by the facts. Granted they have started this season spectacularly badly away from home, but under Houllier there was a stat something like Liverpool never won a game from behind. That has changed under Benitez, numerous time.

I'm with BC, and the more cautious members here. Let's not get carried away. LFC has reached a plateau, but with the new signings, a tough away first half of the premiership and the heavy schedule with CL group games, I always thought there was going to be a poor to middling start to the season.

I agree that there is something wrong, but to be honest I'd prefer to let Rafa sort it out, and I'd also prefer him to at most buy one or two new players over the January and Summer transfer seasons. Last summer gone by, there was too many holes that needed to be plugged, and most of us were fairly happy with the likes of Bellemy, Gonzalez, Kuyt and Pennant. But that many players coming into a team is always going to take time to bed in.

So I say, be patient, look for a much better run from here to April/May, and most importantly let the team bed in.

I would prefer Benitez to have a core, settled team of 8-9 players, with only 2 or 3 changes, maybe the likes of Pennant, Gonzalez, Garcia, Aurelio, etc, but all in all I am willing to see how this team finishes the season, and how they start the next one.

Biut no more buying 5 or 6 squad players.
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: cavanmaniac on November 15, 2006, 01:19:30 PM
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That has changed under Benitez, numerous time.

It did initially and believe me nobody was more delighted with that one development than me, it totally illustrated a major shift in emphasis in the team.

But now I'm equally depressed because I think this season we've somehow regressed to be a carbon copy of Houllier's Liverpool and worryingly there's no change in sight just yet.

I agree we should all hold fast and not push the panic button for the reasons you expressed, but I am definitey very worried.
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: magpie seanie on November 15, 2006, 03:37:45 PM
Liverpool should sell Gerrard at Christmas before people cop on that he's actually not that good/finished - the same way Ferguson got rid of Beckham in the nick of time (he should have sold him a couple of years earlier when he stopped trying against Madrid in a CL game at OT). Gerrard simply doesn't have the stomach and professionalism to be the player 'pool fans claim he is. Some clowns in Spain with more money than sense would be the ones to offload him to, i.e. Real Madrid, though that said Capello would need to get sacked first.

Its a long time since I've seen Liverpool as lacking in huger and bite as in recent weeks (against the better sides).

Failing that Liverpool could try to get the back pass rule changed back again to its original state. Barwick might be able to get the ball rolling on that with the FA.
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: BenDover on November 15, 2006, 03:45:31 PM
Seanie if Liverpool want to sell Gerrard I'm sure Utd would gladly take him of their hands. (oh how I wish they would)

From watching the match on Sunday Liverpool were brutal imho! If i was Benitez, Gonzalez would get a toe in the hole back to where he came from. Pennant alot like Richardson is way below the standard expected for a top team. As for the Freak up front why not give Bellamy a run alongside Kuyt. The man must be kicking himself watching that shite every week. Just my opinion!
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: magpie seanie on November 15, 2006, 03:54:54 PM
I don't think United would be interested in someone who would be overpriced for the bench (before the flaming starts who would you drop?) and anyway - there's no way they'd have the money for him.
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: BenDover on November 15, 2006, 04:09:03 PM
I'd swap ye Carrick for him anyday but I think that Scholes doesn't have that many yrs left in him so he could replace him but like you say Gerrards way of the pace at the minute whereas Scholesy is on top of his game
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: Spiritof98 on November 15, 2006, 04:19:56 PM
Magpie, i have to agree with Ben ther I feel you're being a bit harsh on Gerrard, he a quality player who is going through a minor slump albeit his wife is shagging and snorting town and country and he's being played out of position. Id have him at utd no problem.
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: GalwayBayBoy on November 15, 2006, 04:24:14 PM
Liverpool should sell Gerrard at Christmas before people cop on that he's actually not that good/finished

He scored 23 goals from midfield last season (mainly from right midfield) and won a ridiculous amount games for Liverpool. Not even the staunchest Man U fanboy would say that Gerrard is no good at playing association football or that he's finished at 26 years of age. Ferguson would probably paint his arse yellow and walk naked from Manchester to Liverpool to get him in a United jersey.

He's a moody character though and plainly not in good form at present but if every club sold their best players the minute they hit a bit of bad form then where would they be?
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: el_cuervo_fc on November 15, 2006, 04:30:03 PM
Gerard will come good.  This bit of tension between him and Benitez is bound to be doing his head in.  Benitez is just being twisted because everyone is pointing out exactly what he should do.  If gerard doesn't hit some form soon liverpool could be in big trouble.  He was the one that carried them through last season.
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: hows she cutting on November 15, 2006, 05:10:34 PM
could be time to ask Stig Inge Bjornabeeeee back to sort out the mess at Anfield
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: AZOffaly on November 15, 2006, 05:12:27 PM
The great Stig was manager of the team that beat Drogheda in Dalymount in the UEFA Cup. 11-10 on penos or something. Myself and Billy's Boots were there to witness his managerial brilliance. Wasit IK Start or something Billy?
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: magpie seanie on November 15, 2006, 05:16:43 PM
If ye think Gerrard can play centre of midfield in a 4-4-2 then a lot of you are more deluded than I can imagine. There's a couple of reason's why he scored 23 goals last season the most important one being that he doesn't bother doing much defending, i.e. he is really a deep playing striker. That puts it in context. The reason he was "winning the games for Liverpool" is because the rest of the players did the hard, unfashionable work for him.

"Ferguson would probably paint his arse yellow and walk naked from Manchester to Liverpool to get him in a United jersey."

You might be right. Ferguson has made more and more bad decisions in recent years.
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: hows she cutting on November 15, 2006, 05:35:24 PM
can see Stevie G leaving at the end of this season. Think it would do him and Liverpool the world of good to be honest.

Don't think Chel-ski have any need for him now though and he wouldn't go to United (would he?)

Would have to be Spain or Italy, would his game be suited in either of these two countries? I doubt it.

Hang them up Stevie!
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: GalwayBayBoy on November 15, 2006, 05:40:46 PM
Don't think Chel-ski have any need for him now though and he wouldn't go to United (would he?)

I very much doubt it given what he said about United in his autobiography.
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: charlie stubbs on November 15, 2006, 06:33:05 PM
what was that bought it at weekend, but student commitments have stopped me getting 2 far
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: J70 on November 16, 2006, 02:46:36 AM
Gerrard will score a screamer and find his form over the next few weeks, and suddenly he'll be the best midfielder in the Premiership again!

This shite is as bad as those who were doubting Wayne Rooney a few weeks back - typical fickle press-led bullshit. All players lose their form at some stage, and with Gerrard's alleged off- and on-field difficulties, its no big surprise that he's a bit off colour at the moment. Its just unfortunate that its come at a time when the likes of Carragher and Alonso are not playing great either.
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: J70 on November 16, 2006, 02:59:28 AM
From the LFC official site:

WHEN SQUARE PEGS FIT ROUND HOLES
Paul Tomkins
15 November 2006

It's easy to pigeonhole players. It's easy to get into the mindset that they can only perform one particular role. But it's also often wrong. Talent should come hand-in-hand with versatility.
 
I've never been of the opinion that players have one set, defined position, and that that is therefore the end of the matter. While you wouldn't want too many goalies deciding they'd rather be left wingers (especially 15 minutes into a game), good players should be adaptable.
 
Players will always have a position that suits them best, where they are at their most effective. But if it’s a question of getting only 90% from a player in order to get more from the team (in that the alternative would be to play someone whose very best is only 75% of the other player), then that’s what counts.
 
Providing they have the physical attributes for the role, they should be able to at the very least do a job elsewhere. If Denis Bergkamp could play left-back for the Ajax youth team (albeit only as part of his education as a footballer), then it's something all players, and fans, should be open-minded to.
 
There are a select few Liverpool players in recent years who have had two distinct careers at the club: a number of seasons spent being one type of player, only to then be switched to a new role.
 
I began going to Anfield in 1990, when John Barnes was still the most exciting talent in the game: a sublime left-winger. But of course, it was also around the time when he'd had a very successful spell as a striker, having topped the league scoring charts and finished with 28 goals in all competitions. But it was also shortly before a serious Achilles tendon injury robbed him of his pace.
 
I grew up fairly obsessed with Liverpool, like any football-mad kid who supports a club. But it was only in 1987, when I was 16, that I really fell head over heels in love – and it was following the arrival of Barnes, Peter Beardsley, John Aldridge and Ray Houghton. Kenny Dalglish's side sparked my imagination in a way I'd never previously experienced. They played a kind of football that really was like watching Brazil. And at the heart of it was John Barnes, the man who'd scored arguably the best goal Brazil had ever witnessed three years earlier.
 
One game shortly after his arrival sticks out in my mind. QPR visited Anfield as the surprise early league leaders in 1987. They weren't so much beaten 4-0 as well and truly dismantled. At one point it looked as if Amnesty International would have to intervene (not to mention the RSPCA, given one Rangers' defender was made to look like a lame cart horse time and time again.)
 
One moment stands out to this day. ‘Digger’ won the ball on the halfway line and sprinted forward towards the edge of the area, drifting to his left past one defender before almost defying the laws of physics with a turn to his right which took him past England international Paul Parker. It would have been easy to blast a shot at goal, but he had the coolness and presence of mind to slip the ball under a young David Seaman – who premiered his look of bemusement mixed with dejection which he would later reprise for Nayim, Ronaldinho, and of course, most delightfully, Michael Owen at Cardiff.
 
By the time 2nd-placed Nottingham Forest arrived at Anfield in April 1988, and were beaten 5-0 in what was widely regarded as the finest-ever display on these shores, we pretty much knew that anything was possible. After all, by then Steve Nicol (another supremely versatile player) had scored a hat-trick from left-back away at St James' Park. Teams had been routinely thumped for nine months by that stage. Barnes was the star of a special show.
 
In 1991 Graeme Souness inherited an ageing squad from Dalglish. Souness then sold some of its better players (Beardsley, Houghton) and replaced them with inferior ones. Alan Hansen had to retire as age, and dodgy knees, caught up with him. But perhaps the biggest factor was Barnes losing his ability to ghost past people and leave them for dead.
 
Barnes would later be reborn in a midfield role under Roy Evans. His waistline may have expanded to mirror Jan Molby's, but his game started to resemble the great Dane's, too: he hardly got around the pitch, but for three or four years he simply never gave the ball away.
 
While Barnes is only regarded as a legend on the basis of his salad days, when he took wingplay to new breathtaking heights, he remained a class act even during his later, erm, hamburger days.
 
Of the current team we know Steven Gerrard has the ability to play anywhere. And of course, his position on the pitch comes with a raging debate, and ludicrous suggestions that Benítez chooses to play him on the right merely to prove a point. And there was me thinking it was so he could have a free role to ghost infield (admittedly something he didn't really do at Arsenal), in the way top-class "central" players of the calibre of Ronaldinho, Zidane and Figo have over recent years.
 
But it is Jamie Carragher who is enjoying a new career, now remade as a centre-back after the first half of his playing days were spent at full-back.
 
But in Carra's case it was a question of returning to the role he'd already been earmarked for. In 1999 Gérard Houllier said that one day Carragher would be Liverpool's Marcel Dessaily; he just wasn't ready at that stage. He had grown up as a kid in central midfield and central defence, but couldn't grow up quickly enough in those roles in senior football. It was a struggle.
 
Having been steady for years on either the left or right full-back slot, he spent the first two seasons of Benítez's reign excelling at the heart of the defence. While he's not been as his best this season, it's a timely (if unpleasant) reminder that he's not superhuman after all.
 
Perhaps the greatest transformation ever seen at the club was made by Ray Kennedy. When he arrived at Liverpool from Arsenal, as a battering ram of a centre-forward, it was obviously in this role in which Bill Shankly intended him to play. Things didn’t exactly go as planned. Kennedy failed to make a spot in the side his own, and found himself in the reserves.
 
The transformation under Bob Paisley from a big and burly centre forward to an artful left-sided midfielder in 1975 is still seen by some as the greatest-ever manager’s long-term tactical masterstroke. Of course, the main credit should go to Kennedy, as he was the man who took to the field and adapted so wonderfully.
 
Kennedy was a tall, upright kind of player. Watching him run, there seemed no way he could be a footballer; he was in the same club as Patrick Vieira and Chris Waddle in that he simply didn’t look the part, didn’t move naturally.
 
Put a ball at Ray’s feet, however, and suddenly it was the most natural sight in the world. It stayed close to his side like an obedient sheepdog. He was suddenly a master, in control, calling the shots. Some players are busy, but busy themselves in going nowhere; Ray took his time, but always got there, always arrived.
 
In being upright, it meant he also played with his head up –– the sign of a good player. You need time on the ball to be able to lift your head, and only good players get time on the ball. You also need to know your control is perfect to take your eyes from the ball and survey the field. He had such quality he could look completely natural in the role.
 
But the debate of where certain players should be deployed will always come back to Steven Gerrard. Momo Sissoko's injury might seem the obvious cue to move Gerrard back into the middle, and that may happen in the coming months.
 
But it's also true that on the right he has the ability to put in dangerous crosses, as well as the licence to get into advanced central positions in a way that can make him harder to pick up. Another bonus is that leaving gaps down the right is less immediately dangerous than leaving gaps in the centre, and that's why so many great central talents (such as those mentioned earlier) start from wide positions when drifting around the pitch. It's not like Benítez is doing anything other top managers haven't done in recent years with the best attacking midfielders in the world.
 
Of course, Arsenal was a game where this ploy didn't really work. And yet at Chelsea, starting on the left (an even more outrageous misuse if his talent to some!), Gerrard ghosted into some great goalscoring positions and really should have won the game for the Reds. Had his aim been just a few inches better on a couple of occasions, the decision would have been seen as a tactical masterstroke.
 
Maybe the time is right to move him back into a central starting position, to try something different in the absence of Sissoko. That's up to the manager to decide. But it was only a little over a year ago that the Reds were struggling in the league, and the problem was remedied to a large degree by switching Gerrard to a regular role on the right wing.
 
But hey, playing Gerrard out wide never works, does it?
 
Paul Tomkins is the author of The Red Review, Red Revival and Golden Past, Red Future.
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: magpie seanie on November 16, 2006, 08:58:55 AM
"This shite is as bad as those who were doubting Wayne Rooney a few weeks back - typical fickle press-led bullshit. All players lose their form at some stage"

There's little comparison between the two. Rooney is genuinely a great player and even when he had a dip in output in terms of goals/assists his workrate was superb. The reason for the dip in form was a reaction to his rushed comeback for the World Cup and was therefore largely physical. A run of games would sort him out and it did.

Gerrard is standing up and letting players run away from him when Liverpool/England lose possession which is a huge no-no.
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: Dinny Breen on November 16, 2006, 09:06:18 AM
Rooney is genuinely a great player

That English media hype bullshit annoys me, he has potential to be a great player, nothing more nothing less, he has won nothing in his profession. As Roy Keane would say you judge a player at the end of his career and assess what he has won and contributed to the game.

Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: J70 on November 16, 2006, 01:21:39 PM
"This shite is as bad as those who were doubting Wayne Rooney a few weeks back - typical fickle press-led bullshit. All players lose their form at some stage"

There's little comparison between the two. Rooney is genuinely a great player and even when he had a dip in output in terms of goals/assists his workrate was superb. The reason for the dip in form was a reaction to his rushed comeback for the World Cup and was therefore largely physical. A run of games would sort him out and it did.

Gerrard is standing up and letting players run away from him when Liverpool/England lose possession which is a huge no-no.

God forbid someone mention a Liverpool player in the same sentence as the great Wayne!

My point was that Gerrard is off-form and needs to be allowed to work through it, like Rooney was, whether the cause is burn-out or stress or friction with Benitez or whatever.
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: Over the Bar on November 17, 2006, 08:38:08 AM
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I very much doubt it given what he said about United in his autobiography.

And you only need to look as far as Alan Smith to see how footballers say anything that will endear them the fans more.  Gerrard would crawl to Manchester to wear the united jersey if the money was right and he thought he might win a title make no mistake.
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: magpie seanie on November 17, 2006, 09:53:35 AM
"That English media hype bullshit annoys me, he has potential to be a great player, nothing more nothing less, he has won nothing in his profession. As Roy Keane would say you judge a player at the end of his career and assess what he has won and contributed to the game."

Yes Dinny, point taken. I believe Rooney will fulfil that potential.
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: laoislad on November 22, 2006, 09:30:51 PM
Great goal by Gerrard!! now we know his best position
Liverpool qualifiying in style unlike United
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: laoislad on November 22, 2006, 09:32:46 PM
2-0 Crouch 88mins if only we could play like this in the premiership ???
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: GalwayBayBoy on November 22, 2006, 10:07:54 PM
Good performance tonight I thought. Gerrard's best game of the season. Kuyt was good too.

Injuries not so good. Alonso, Gonzalez and Pennant all off injured. Speedy looked the worst of those.

Last match a formality now so time to start climbing the league table and forget about Europe until after Christmas.

Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: el_cuervo_fc on November 23, 2006, 08:41:09 AM
Great result.  glad to see stevie G get on the score sheet.  maybe now he'll bring some form back into the league
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: charlie stubbs on November 23, 2006, 10:11:23 AM
injury to alonso not good,means that zuke zenden prob getta few games
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: Hank Everlast on November 23, 2006, 12:56:59 PM
losing three midfielders in one night cud be a disaster for our premiership form.... any word on the seriousness of the injuries?
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: hows she cutting on November 23, 2006, 01:18:42 PM
alonso looks like he will have a dead leg from the impact of challenge on him
Title: From Teamtalk
Post by: Mayo4Sam on November 23, 2006, 01:42:04 PM
Reds count cost of PSV victory
Rafael Benitez revealed that Liverpool have paid a heavy price for winning Champions League Group C with a 2-0 home win over PSV Eindhoven.
 
Chile winger Mark Gonzalez has a torn hamstring and could be out for at least three weeks, while Jermaine Pennant has a strained hamstring and is very doubtful for Saturday's home league game with Manchester City.

Spanish midfielder Xabi Alonso was also taken off in the Anfield match with a leg muscle injury.

Benitez said: "We are very pleased with the victory, it was good for the players, the fans and the whole club.

"But to lose three players with injuries is a high price. It made it a very hard match to manage, when you see players being taken off like that - two in the first half - it does limit what you can do as a manager.

"We found ourselves having to use Luis Garcia, who was not 100% after being out for three weeks with a calf injury, while Bolo Zenden too, was forced into the game without any warm-up because the injuries happened so quickly."

But boss Benitez was delighted with the performance of Steven Gerrard, who scored the first goal and led the side with drive and passion throughout.

He said: "We played very professionally, and Steven had a fine game. He scored another goal and it was good to see him playing with such confidence, the whole team were happy to see that."

PSV boss Ronald Koeman maintained that the difference between the sides was the performance of Gerrard.

Said Koeman: "The quality of Gerrard was outstanding, it was an excellent midfield performance and was something we could not match."

Koeman was critical of his own side's overall play, and said: "We did not do too badly, we did not give away possession but our build up play from the back let us down.

"We have dangerous players up front but if we do not get the ball to them properly, we will not score goals.

"A lot of our play was really sloppy, if you do that you do not create much up front."

Koeman, who confirmed that he lost Phillip Cocu with a fever just before the match, added: "We were not prepared to risk him because of the important games we have coming up.

"It would have been good to have won at Anfield, but playing away to Liverpool is very different to playing Galatasaray and Bordeaux on their own grounds.

"We know we have qualified, but we still want to end the group with a victory against Bordeaux in our last match, that would send us into the winter in good spirits."

Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: winghalfun on November 24, 2006, 10:40:39 AM
Managed to get tickets for the game. Got back late last night. Good result alright but we were helped by PSV's negative 4-3-2-1 system.
It was 34 minutes before we got the first shot on target which shows what a dire first half it was.

Liverpool had most of the possession but their lack of creativity was glaringly obvious for most of the game.

Yes Stevie G worked hard but so did Peter Crouch, Stevie Finnann with Rise becoming more influential in the second half.

If Pennant had not been stretchered off he would have been taken off becuase he gave away so much ball and wasted so many opportunties.

Both goals were well taken but why, now that he has the central role, can't Gerrard make more of the runs he did to create more opportunities?
Its all well and good making well timed, crunching tackles in midfield but that is bread and butter stuff for any good midfielder.

Lets hope that his goal on Wenesday will restore some of the obvious lost confidence.

Was hoping to hear the KOP in full volume but it was the Dutch fans who made the most noise throughout the night even singing along to You'll Never Walk Alone at the start.

Overall the team were well organised, disciplined and patient but I can see now why this approach has cost us so many points this year.

Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: charlie stubbs on November 24, 2006, 01:52:35 PM
will be interesting to see the midfield saturday any thoughts?garcia,gerrard,zenden and riise,with warnock at left back?please not aurelio!?
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: bingobus on November 24, 2006, 01:59:29 PM
will be interesting to see the midfield saturday any thoughts?garcia,gerrard,zenden and riise,with warnock at left back?please not aurelio!?

No Warnock, he out for a few weeks. All options on the left injured bar Riise - Kewell, Aurelio, Gonzalez, Warnock. Looks like Garcia or Zenden but no-one else in the middle with Alonso and Sissoko injured. Unless he throws Anderson from the Youth team into the mix but this would be very unrafa like.
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: charlie stubbs on November 24, 2006, 02:48:23 PM
its a goodthing we are at home this weekend.maybe play bellers on the right,garcia left with zenden and gerrard in middle.very attacking though.
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: charlie stubbs on November 24, 2006, 03:36:11 PM
says on skysports news that pennant should be fit
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: laoislad on November 24, 2006, 03:53:15 PM
Any one think Fowler should be givin a fair chance? i reckon he'll be packed off somewhere in January
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: charlie stubbs on November 24, 2006, 03:55:10 PM
think 20 mins anyway bellamy hasnt done it kuyt hasnt been 2 gud away from anfield think fowler wud do well playn off crouchs knockdowns
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: Carmen Stateside on November 25, 2006, 04:40:39 PM
1-0 Stevie G !! ;) more like ya!
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: Carmen Stateside on November 25, 2006, 04:54:17 PM
All over 1-0 !  :)
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: charlie stubbs on November 27, 2006, 02:48:07 PM
slack enuf performance,but sign off a good team suppose not playn well and all that
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: magpie seanie on November 27, 2006, 03:21:06 PM
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slack enuf performance,but sign off a good team suppose not playn well and all that

Classic!
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: supersarsfields on November 27, 2006, 05:42:31 PM
While happy to get the points i'd be alot happier if Liverpool actually put in a performance that would allow you to think that things might be improving!! Been very dissappoined with the performances. It's not even like they are playing like the gunners with some slick football and being unfortunate. Their just not inspiring at the minute at all!!
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: laoislad on November 27, 2006, 06:00:43 PM
With the January transfer window just around the corner is there any player who ye think might improve Liverpool at this time or on the flip side any player we should be selling on?
I'd love a proper winger as im less than convinced about Gonzalez or Pennant or even Garcia
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: charlie stubbs on November 28, 2006, 02:25:51 PM
swp i think would be a great purchase
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: Mayo4Sam on November 28, 2006, 03:41:40 PM
West ham bound by all accounts
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: bingobus on November 28, 2006, 03:42:35 PM
Zenden out for 4/5 weeks. Midfield  will now consist of Stevie G and ??????.

Options - Carra (played there in his formative years and last year for England), Agger or Guthrie (untried youngster).

Prob go for Carra with Hyypia and Agger CB, Riise LB and Garcia on left, Pennat on right. Not too many options though.

Might be time to give the youngsters a go. Portsmouth at home (who have their own injuries) would be as good a game as any to blood Guthrie. Should defo get a run against Gala in a dead rubber match. Also Anderson, Hamill, Peilter could get a run.
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: charlie stubbs on November 29, 2006, 09:47:22 AM
carra would be v defence mided which could suit stevie g but we would miss him at the back and agger hyppia aint played together much
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: laoislad on November 29, 2006, 10:10:47 PM
Poor result tonight we lose yet more ground on the leaders
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: J70 on November 29, 2006, 10:15:18 PM
Poor result tonight we lose yet more ground on the leaders

One of those typical frustrating Anfield 0-0 games by all accounts, where Portsmouth got they point they came and defended for. Liverpool couldn't break them down, and that's why they're in the predicament they're in.

Forget the leaders. United and Chelsea are away over the horizon. Getting the third or fourth spot is all that matters for Arsenal and Liverpool now.
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: laoislad on November 29, 2006, 10:28:13 PM
Saw Chelsea and Bolton tonight and as 5ivetimes said Chelsea are grinding out results,Bolton and some great chances to draw level but Chelsea come thru yet again and also yeah i hate to say it United look very good
At least Arsenal lost but then again Portsmouth and Bolton even feckin Reading look like better 3rd or 4th placed bets at moment
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: J70 on November 29, 2006, 10:29:43 PM
Saw Chelsea and Bolton tonight and as 5ivetimes said Chelsea are grinding out results,Bolton and some great chances to draw level but Chelsea come thru yet again and also yeah i hate to say it United look very good
At least Arsenal lost but then again Portsmouth and Bolton even feckin Reading look like better 3rd or 4th placed bets at moment

Liverpool and Arsenal will finish third and fourth.
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: laoislad on November 29, 2006, 10:34:29 PM
I wouldn't be putting my mortgage on it




Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: heganboy on November 29, 2006, 11:15:15 PM
theres a lot of talk about the club changing hands very soon
http://www.bbc.co.uk/dna/606/A17787883
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: laoislad on December 01, 2006, 07:03:17 PM
anyone know if Alonso is fit tomorrow?
Surely we should record our first away win tomorrow
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: Carmen Stateside on December 01, 2006, 07:35:37 PM
Alonso is ready for tomorrow  :) hope our strikers are ::)
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: Hank Everlast on December 02, 2006, 10:41:58 AM
needs a big result today... important to keep another clean sheet!
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: laoislad on December 02, 2006, 05:37:00 PM
4-0 can't complain.Bellamy is a thick little **** though isn't he,can't keep his bleeding mouth shut,good goals though!!
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: J70 on December 02, 2006, 06:46:41 PM
Hopefully this game will break the spell like the 5-1 result against Fulham did last season when Liverpool couldn't score.

Eight clean sheets in nine games as well. Maybe the quality of the opposition wasn't the best, but you have to start somewhere. It remains to be seen if they start scoring regularly enough though. One result means nothing.
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: Carmen Stateside on December 02, 2006, 10:07:57 PM
What did you all think of the new formation?? Didnt get to see it but getting good reports! Will Rafa stick with it?? Guess he could try it again in Istanbul............ ohh ISTANBUL  what great memorys! ;D ;D
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: laoislad on December 02, 2006, 11:03:48 PM
What a memory!!!!! ;D ;D

Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: never kickt a ball on December 03, 2006, 12:32:39 AM
What do you call the guy in the suit? Wonder what he's texting?
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: Carmen Stateside on December 03, 2006, 12:47:08 AM
Nice one!!! ;D
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: never kickt a ball on December 03, 2006, 01:08:37 AM
could start a new thread on its own carmen, or should i say artie?
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: never kickt a ball on December 03, 2006, 03:24:49 PM
Liverpool v arsenal in 3rd round of FA Cup. Nice!!!
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: stiffler on December 03, 2006, 09:30:42 PM
what about larssons last game for utd being at anfield? i would be gutted if he scored past us. heres hoping hes injured or suspended that day!
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: never kickt a ball on December 03, 2006, 09:34:58 PM
Stiffler. He doesn't join until January. Lots can happen from now to then and he might never play for Man Utd. IE Injury etc
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: GalwayBayBoy on December 03, 2006, 11:59:31 PM
Liverpool prepare for Arab takeover

Oliver Kay



Liverpool are close to accepting a £450 million deal that will allow a consortium from Dubai to become the latest overseas investors in English football. After a three-year search, the Merseyside club’s board believes that it has found the right deal to secure its long-term future and will allow the Dubai International Capital group (DIC), a subsidiary of the Arab state’s government, to begin the due diligence process this week.
The news will spark a mixture of emotions among Liverpool supporters, but David Moores, the chairman, and Rick Parry, the chief executive, believe it is a deal that will allow the club to re-establish themselves at the summit of English football. Under the terms of the proposals, it is believed that DIC — effectively owned by the al-Maktoum family, the billionaire rulers of Dubai — will take on the club’s £80 million debts and provide up to £200 million for a new 60,000-capacity stadium, in addition to meeting Moores’s £170 million valuation of the club.



In theory, this would allow work to start on the stadium in Stanley Park within months, while also providing funds for Rafael Benítez, the manager, to compete at the top end of the transfer market, but it is too early to say whether it would generate the kind of money that has enabled Roman Abramovich to turn Chelsea into the world’s richest club — or indeed whether Liverpool, a club based on tradition and sensible housekeeping, would even favour such an approach.

Liverpool have attracted offers from several other bidders, most recently George Gillett, the American billionaire, and John Miskelly, the Belfast-born property tycoon, but after serious consideration they are understood to have granted DIC, a subsidiary of the government-owned Dubai Holdings, due diligence, which gives them exclusive rights to study their accounts with a view to finalising a deal.

The precise details of the proposals remain unclear, with uncertainty over whether it will be a full-scale takeover or whether DIC will merely take over from Moores as majority shareholders. It is also unclear whether Moores, whose family has been part of the furniture in the Anfield boardroom for 50 years, will stay in some capacity, but there have been indications that Parry will continue as chief executive.

Unlike the Glazer family’s takeover of Manchester United last year, there is no great opposition to overseas investment in Liverpool, with many supporters regarding it as an opportunity to restore the club to the glory days of the 1970s and 1980s. There were serious concerns expressed when Thaksin Shinawatra, then Prime Minister of Thailand, made a high-profile bid to invest in the club in May 2004, but they had more to do with Thailand’s human rights record than with the principle of overseas ownership.

There is certain to be concern, however, within the FA Premier League, which is known to be worried by the number of its clubs that have fallen into foreign ownership. In addition to Manchester United and Chelsea, Aston Villa, Portsmouth and West Ham United are all now owned by overseas investors.
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: GalwayBayBoy on December 04, 2006, 01:06:43 PM
Chris Bacombe, Liverpool Echo


CHRIS BASCOMBE traces the history of missed chances and false promises over the years

IT IS appropriate that Liverpool head back to the scene of their greatest comeback today.

Off the pitch, the most lucrative deal in the club's history, with a man wealthier than Roman Abramovich, will be noted by generations to come as a fightback of equal significance.

With the clock ticking on the club's dreams of building a £180m stadium, a three-year pursuit for investment is finally on the brink of conclusion, ensuring that the Stanley Park plans proceed.

The stakes could not have been higher for the Liverpool hierarchy, with the temperature within the boardroom increasing daily.



A multi-million pound deal with one of the richest economies on the planet would represent a stunning hat-trick for chairman David Moores and chief executive Rick Parry.


Not only have they ensured that the Stanley Park stadium can be built, but the resources Rafael Benitez craves should also be available.


More significantly, the long-term financial security of Liverpool Football Club would be strengthened through an alliance with one of the richest and most stable economies on earth.


To put it into perspective, Liverpool's last strategic partnership, when Granada purchased a 9.9% stake for £21m in 1999, looks no more than a generous handshake with a Big Issue salesman in comparison to the wealth and powerof the United Arab Emirates.


And although the imminent agreement should not be compared with the Roman Abramovich takeover of Chelsea, even the Russian looks like a pauper when stood alongside the UAE royal family, who are ultimately the power behind Dubai International.


The wealth of the Emirate states is measured in trillions, not billions.


Their pockets are deep, and if a successful Liverpool Football club becomes their ambition, their financial insecurities can be consigned to history.


The first priority of the club is to safeguard the stadium plans so the Dubai group should not be seen as an Abramovich style benefactor willing to sign the cheques which will allow Benitez to make Chelsea-style bids for players.


Fans or rival clubs expecting an instant series of £20m offers for the world's top stars would be misinterpreting the deal.


But as well as helping to pay for the stadium, it would be illogical if funds were not also made available to the manager. The concerns he's expressed should be eased, if not completely eradicated.


That said, it would also be unwise for Liverpool to advertise an increased transfer kitty too publicly.


As the board said at last year's AGM, "all roads lead to investment". After hitting a cul-de-sac for so long, Liverpool can now drive forward unobstructed.


If the process concludes as well as anticipated over the next three weeks, Parry and Moores can share a glass of bubbly with a sense of relief, triumph and satisfaction of a job, eventually, well done.


The process of attracting investment has been painful, emotional and expensive.


The chairman was on the brink of resigning in public on at least two occasions, while behind the scenes he was tantalisingly close to selling part of his stake to rival Steve Morgan.


Morgan valued the club at £70m and vowed to invest millions more, but he refused to proceed with a deal which would see Moores claim 51% of his bid.


Either side of the local entrepreneur's forlorn proposal, the club flirted with some of the richest men on the planet, with Parry clocking up air miles with a prolific zeal.


The lowest point was arguably Parry's meeting with Thai prime minister Thaksin Shinawatra in May, 2004.


When the Liverpool chief executive was pictured in Bangkok, it provoked a furious reaction from human rights campaigners, urging the Reds to steer clear of such dirty money. The meeting with US businessman RobertKraft last season was greeted more enthusiastically, but Parry's trip to America was as much a fact finding mission as arealistic bid for cash.


Kraft financed his New England Patriots American football stadium by entering a partnership with Gillette.


While the Thai and American links led to brief media hysteria, Liverpool were still no closer to securing investment.


Less publicised interest emerged from Arab countries, with the Abu Dhabi government understood to be showing their interest in late 2005, and investment groups from Saudi Arabia and Dubai increasingly linked with stadium sponsorship.


An alternative plan would see Liverpool follow the Arsenal blueprint and take a £200m loan from a variety of banks.


However, this strategy was incredibly risky, effectively mortgaging Liverpool's future based on a decade of Champions League participation.


Parry wisely advised against this from the start.


A plan to move to a new stadium was first announced in 2000, but the unpredictability of football threatened to scupper the club's plans.


When Parry confidently unveiled his vision for Liverpool's future, no fan could foresee the economic mis-fortune ahead.


Liverpool were seemingly heading in the right direction under the leadership of a visionary French manager.


Two years on, the Reds were not even in the European Cup.


Major investment in the squad was rewarded with a series of dud signings, and the manager and his back-room team eventually left at a cost of £20m.


While the team failed to raise capital, the stadium costs threatened to spiral out of control. Feasibility studies were undertaken at huge expense, while the Northwest Development Agency seemed reluctant to provide the grant.


Liverpool were urged to reopen the shared stadium debate in order to cut costs. Parry steadfastly fought against these outside pressures, maintaining his confident stance that he would deliver.


By November 2006, Belfast businessman and lifelong Liverpool fan John Miskelly appeared to be in pole position.


He valued the club at £140m, preparing to pay £4,000 a share to take control of the club. In addition, he was prepared to consider ploughing in a further £80m to underwrite stadium costs and provide manager Rafa Benitez with a transfer kitty.


Rival bidders were prepared to pay £4,400 ashare, valuing Liverpool at more than £150m.


Parry and Moores also met George Gillett Jnr, an American businessman best known as the owner of Canadian Montreal Ice Hockey team and former owner of the Harlem Globetrotters.


But Gillett also favoured are opening of the shared stadium debate with Everton, which meant Liverpool were less enthusiastic about his interest.


Parry knew his regular jaunts to the United Arab Emirates offered a regular chink of light in pursuit of investment. The Abu Dhabi government-owned Etihad Airways were close to agreeing a shirt sponsorship deal 12 months ago.


Approaches to Arab investors were increasing in frequency and it was hoped a major investment deal would be struck ahead of last year's AGM, which was deliberately delayed.


Dubai International had negotiated with Liverpool before, but chairman Moores has always been adamant he'd only sell shares to the right bidder.


After years of criticism, Parry and Moores can now justifiably argue they have delivered the goods.


With investment on the brink of being secured, a new stadium backin the realm of reality and transfer funds surely to be made available to Benitez, Liverpool fans can soon allow themselves a smile as bright as one of their chief executive's famously eccentric shirts.





DUBAI is one of seven states which make up the United Arab Emirates.


Oil was discovered there in the 1960s, but has now been replaced by tourism as the most lucrative income source.


Dubai City, located on the coast of the Persian Gulf, is growing faster than any city on earth.


The state's beaches, which stretch for 25 miles, are currently home to almost $100bn worth of development projects either underway or planned.


Dubai International Capital (DIC) was established in 2004 as the international investment arm of Dubai Holdings
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: magpie seanie on December 04, 2006, 02:09:05 PM
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Unlike the Glazer family’s takeover of Manchester United last year, there is no great opposition to overseas investment in Liverpool

Typical lazy journalism. The major difference between this deal and the Glazers taking over United (apart from the huge chasm in the values of the clubs!) is that the Dubai crowd can proably afford this
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: laoislad on December 04, 2006, 05:35:46 PM
Hope this is good for us.We do need the money for the new stadium and a few world class players would be nice
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: laoislad on December 05, 2006, 06:22:01 PM
Handy one tonight lads what ye think? Great to be already qualified unlike Unitedscum!
Read today that Arab fella is worth more than Abramovich looks like the good times are ahead of us
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: Carmen Stateside on December 05, 2006, 11:53:01 PM
Wasnt great lads but i guess from what I can read above its not all bad tonight!!!!! Fowler with two also interesting! :)
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: never kickt a ball on December 06, 2006, 12:07:09 AM
Beware of the fake sheik lads. You never know
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: magpie seanie on December 06, 2006, 12:48:32 PM
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Read today that Arab fella is worth more than Abramovich looks like the good times are ahead of us

Yes, Chelsea are the type of club Liverpool would aspire to be like. Dull, cautious, boring but who cares if we win, eh?

If this deal doesn't work out go for the reinstatement of the backpass to ensure a return to glory days.
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: supersarsfields on December 06, 2006, 01:11:40 PM
Miaow!!
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: J70 on December 06, 2006, 01:11:55 PM
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Read today that Arab fella is worth more than Abramovich looks like the good times are ahead of us

Yes, Chelsea are the type of club Liverpool would aspire to be like. Dull, cautious, boring but who cares if we win, eh?

If this deal doesn't work out go for the reinstatement of the backpass to ensure a return to glory days.

That backpass rule was certainly the crucial factor in Liverpool's success. They were the only team allowed to pass the ball back to the keeper, after all. ???

Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: magpie seanie on December 06, 2006, 01:44:29 PM
Haven't won the league since the rule was changed....
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: bingobus on December 06, 2006, 01:46:47 PM
Haven't won the league since the rule was changed....

Try not to be such an idiot, you'll never be a fearon. Run along now.
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: magpie seanie on December 06, 2006, 02:04:44 PM
Was there something factually incorrect with my statement that caused you to debase yourself by lowering yourself to petty insults?
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: brokencrossbar1 on December 06, 2006, 02:13:48 PM
Seanie, while the Liverpool teams of the late 70's early 80's were masters of the back pass(lawro and Hansen being the prime candidtaes) they did play devastating football going forward.The teams that won the last few championships are rightly regarded as some of the best attacking teams ever in English football, Barnes, Beardsly, Rush, Aldridge,all top-class forwards.  Like any team of the era though they were able to slow games down to their own pace when it suited.  I would venture that this is why Liverpool were, and still are excellent in Europe.  They can slow the came down to the pace of continental teams and then break at pace.  Not as much now as they used to but they certainly could do it well.
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: Great Leap Forward on December 06, 2006, 02:17:31 PM
Without trying to stir things, I reckon Liverpool fans are being a bit hypocritical on the takeover issue. I know several of them who have lambasted Chelsea for the money they have spent, accusing them of buying the title etc. Some of them actually want United to win the league due to this fact. Then all of a sudden a rich investor from abraad comes in and their tune changes. Now of course they reckon it is essential to spend scandalous ammounts of money to compete in todays market.

I am quite surprised a club with such a rich history as Liverpool have decided to go down the same route as a club who are growing more unpopular by the day.
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: charlie stubbs on December 06, 2006, 03:08:10 PM
CHELSKIS UNPOPULARITY IS PROB DUE TO THEIR MANAGER THINKING HES KING OF THE HILL AND NEVER WRONG,THATS WHAT FUCKS ME OFF BOT THEM
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: laoislad on December 06, 2006, 06:59:33 PM
CHELSKIS UNPOPULARITY IS PROB DUE TO THEIR MANAGER THINKING HES KING OF THE HILL AND NEVER WRONG,THATS WHAT FUCKS ME OFF BOT THEM
Completely agree with ya Charlie as a club i have nothing against Chelsea and as the season is already over for us i hope Chelsea win the league coz i couldn't bear Man United winning it
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: laoislad on December 06, 2006, 07:04:40 PM
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Read today that Arab fella is worth more than Abramovich looks like the good times are ahead of us

Yes, Chelsea are the type of club Liverpool would aspire to be like. Dull, cautious, boring but who cares if we win, eh?

If this deal doesn't work out go for the reinstatement of the backpass to ensure a return to glory days.
Do you realise what shite your talking?
Chelsea are not a dull boring team and anyone who watched them against Barcelona ,Man United or even against Bolton would see that as for the comment about the backpass rule just look at bingobus's reply and i second that
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: J70 on December 06, 2006, 07:07:50 PM
Haven't won the league since the rule was changed....

So it follows that the change in the back-pass rule is the cause? Does that mean that Liverpool would have continued at the top if the back-pass hadn't been abolished?
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: J70 on December 06, 2006, 07:14:08 PM
Without trying to stir things, I reckon Liverpool fans are being a bit hypocritical on the takeover issue. I know several of them who have lambasted Chelsea for the money they have spent, accusing them of buying the title etc. Some of them actually want United to win the league due to this fact. Then all of a sudden a rich investor from abraad comes in and their tune changes. Now of course they reckon it is essential to spend scandalous ammounts of money to compete in todays market.

I am quite surprised a club with such a rich history as Liverpool have decided to go down the same route as a club who are growing more unpopular by the day.

This is certainly a difficult issue, and I would find it a little hollow if Liverpool do what Chelsea (and AC Milan before them) do and buy the title by outbidding everyone else for players. However, the choice is either accept a future as a second-tier team, or attempt to compete with Chelsea and United.
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: magpie seanie on December 07, 2006, 11:26:00 AM
The ould back pass one really gets them going. Peach.
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: charlie stubbs on December 07, 2006, 06:00:13 PM
fulham up next should be a home win, wonder if the growler will start after getting 2 during week.bellamy seems b running into form
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: laoislad on December 07, 2006, 06:13:13 PM
Would love to see Fowler get a run don't think it will happen though it will be Kuyt and Bellamy i'd say
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: charlie stubbs on December 07, 2006, 06:14:29 PM
wud say thatl be the combo meself.think dat rafas 1st choice
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: GalwayBayBoy on December 07, 2006, 07:05:27 PM
Anyway lads who de ye fancy for the last 16 in the CL?

A choice from

Barcelona
Inter Milan
Roma
Real Madrid
Celtic
Porto
Lille

Have to say Celtic, Porto or Lille are probably the three you'd like to draw.

Wouldn't mind a game against Real Madrid though. Haven't played them in ages. We have a good record against Roma too.
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: laoislad on December 07, 2006, 07:08:12 PM
Too be honest i don't mind who we get as i think with the way we play and how good Benitez is in Europe i think we could beat any of them
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: Gabriel_Hurl on December 07, 2006, 07:17:47 PM
when is the draw?
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: Midman on December 07, 2006, 07:29:07 PM
Friday 15th december. Lots of big teams there, I hope we draw Madrid as well would be nice to beat the merengues
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: laoislad on December 09, 2006, 03:52:55 PM
0-0 half time against Fulham we should be 2 or 3 up
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: laoislad on December 09, 2006, 04:16:23 PM
PENALTY!!!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: laoislad on December 09, 2006, 04:17:32 PM
Saved but Gerrard scores on the rebound 1-0 Liverpool
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: laoislad on December 09, 2006, 04:24:27 PM
2-0   Jamie Carrarager :o :o :o first goal since 1999!!!!
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: laoislad on December 09, 2006, 04:30:05 PM
Garcia 3-0 easy easy easy ;D ;D
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: laoislad on December 09, 2006, 04:57:01 PM
Gonzalez 4-0...... Full time
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: gawa316 on December 09, 2006, 05:01:58 PM
Happy days, great win for the lads. Just what the doctor ordered. With our run of games coming up we should be able to cement our place in the top 4. Is been quite a while since we last conceded in the premiership as well. Apart from the arse game i think its about 8 games
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: laoislad on December 09, 2006, 05:04:25 PM
4 goals in first half last week 4 in the second this week can't complain ;D
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: J70 on December 09, 2006, 05:05:06 PM
Nice free from Gonzalez and very easy in the end. As usual, the first goal is the vital one in Liverpool's home games. Had Fulham scored it, or had Liverpool not won the penalty when they did, it could have been another frustrating afternoon. Good to see Carragher score! He anticipated the flick-on very well and finished it nicely at the back post.

P.S. Tell Gerrard not to take penalties! He's nearly as bad as Owen was!
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: AZOffaly on December 09, 2006, 06:35:35 PM
Good result, and nice to move up into 4th, although it still is not that fluid. Fulham were woeful.

I though Carra scored in the Champions league a couple of seasons ago? Must be his first league goal since 99.

Finnan was good today. Our own Mr. Consistancy.
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: laoislad on December 09, 2006, 08:01:50 PM
Good win today but just say this billionaire takes over who out of todays team would survive if we start spending big and clearing out some dead weight?
For me it be Agger Gerrard Carragher Alonso and Kuyt think the rest of them inc Fowler,Crouch,Bellamy,Pennant,Finnan,Garcia etc could and should be worried
Any thoughts?
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: gawa316 on December 10, 2006, 12:11:03 PM
Its hard to know who will come in and who will leave. I thought at the start of the season we definitely had a squad capable of competing for the title but it just has happened. Reina has found his form of late (this goes for the entire defence) and you can't argue with the mans record. Finnan has been great over the last few seasons so would say he is another keeper. Agger looks absolute quality and alongside Carra they have the potential to be mentioned in the same breath as Hansen and Lawro. Riise has been a loyal servant whether at left back or in midfield. However when he's up against a quality winger he can be caught out. Mid-week against Galatasary being an example. Gerrard, Alonso and Sissoko speak for themselves, its just hard gettin all 3 into the team. Up front although its early days Kuyt looks a class act and Bellamy has shown the form we know he can produce over the last few weeks. Jury is still out on Gonzales. he has got the pace to frighten any defence, i reckon (and I hope) he just needs time to settle (as most foreigners do).

So to conclude I would retain Reina, Carson, Finan, Agger, Carra, Hyppia (got another season in him), Riise (good back up), Gerrard. Sissoko, Alonso, Kuyt, Bellamy

The maybe's would be Garcia, Gonzales, Kewell (displayed good form last year), Fowler(just because he's God), Crouch

Out would go Dudek, Pennant (failed on the big stage), Zenden, Aurelio (doesn't seem up to it although I would love to be proved wrong as he has the sweetest left foot).


In i would go for Simao (rips ushited to shreads), SWP or Joaquin, Alves or Nelson (Benfica) for right back, Bridge or Lahm for left back, a quality left sided midfielder (Van der vaart, Victor ??),  and up front some one with pace like Defoe, Bent or equivalent. Also possibly cover for centre mid, some strong defensive midfielder
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: laoislad on December 15, 2006, 09:40:58 PM
Another 3 points should be ours tomorrow Charlton not going great at moment maybe a chance for Fowler up front??
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: charlie stubbs on December 16, 2006, 12:21:09 AM
doubtful,id say he will maybe start with last weeks team 4 a shock
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: charlie stubbs on December 16, 2006, 12:23:22 AM
barca in cl any thoughts.daunting prospect though benetiz will have homework done and wud imagine had half decent record against them prev
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: el_cuervo_fc on December 16, 2006, 09:03:52 AM
Barcelona are in good form at the minute.  Ronaldinho is showing more of what he can do.  they won 4-0 win over Club America in the final of Fifa's Club World Championship.

Benitez will relish the prospect though.  I'm glad we got the fixture.  We can be a horrible enough team to play against.  Europe's the stage for us anyway.  sure we're knockout specialists!!!
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: J70 on December 16, 2006, 02:49:52 PM
It doesn't get much easier than that away from home, especially at a place where Liverpool have a very mediocre record. Charlton look finished. Some shocking mistakes from them at times.

Liverpool should've had a few more, but three goals and another clean sheet is fine by me!
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: laoislad on December 16, 2006, 05:46:57 PM
Had a tenner on 3-0  not bad 110 bones!!! :o
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: laoislad on December 16, 2006, 11:03:34 PM
just seen game on match of the day,in all honesty it could have been 8-3
Good to see poor Djimi Traore hasn't changed one bit ;D
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: J70 on December 17, 2006, 09:38:46 PM
Djimi was unlucky for the penalty, I think he was very wound up from the start and the challenge that led to the penalty was a result of this, there was no malice in the challenge. I always like Djimi, he had an outstanding champions league final and for that I think we all owe him one. Great clearance from Pennants shot.
Almost a good set of results for us today. United lost, but sadly Chelski sneaked a win. I hate to say it but they look good. Plenty of fight.

I think you're being rather generous in your evaluation of Djimi's Champions League final performance. He dove in to give away the free from which Maldini scored in the first minute. He got caught out (as did the rest of the defence) by the criss-cross runs that lead to the second goal. He nearly gave away a goal early in the second when he miscontrolled a simple five yard pass, allowing Kaka to run at Hyypia and win a free on the edge of the box, which Dudek saved from Shevchenko, just before Gerrard scored. Yes, he made a couple of clearances and played well after that, but overall, it wasn't great stuff from him.

He certainly has some very strong aspects to his game, such as his speed and tackling, but I don't think he has the head to play for a top-level team. He makes too many simple errors of judgement and technique, and often cannot complete a short pass. For example, why the hell didn't he just clear the ball with his head in the penalty incident? Pennant was never going to beat him in the air.

On today's game, they're irrelevant as far as Liverpool are concerned. As a Liverpool fan, Chelsea are certainly the lesser of two evils, in that United are our greatest rivals, but I think that is about the extent of Liverpool's interest in the top two, barring some dramatic collapse by both, which is not going to happen.
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: laoislad on December 18, 2006, 12:34:55 AM
Too be honest Djimi would be in my top 5 of all time worst Liverpool players.I remember watching a match a couple of years ago where after making a good few mistakes Gerrard actually went over and took the ball of Djimi as he atempted a clearance,He was at fault for two of the  3 goals against Milan and let us never forget the own goal in the FA Cup match against Burnley
Always felt sorry for the chap as he tried his heart out but really the fella was awful and not up too the standard Liverpool needed
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: el_cuervo_fc on December 18, 2006, 08:28:28 AM
some of the things djimi done on saturday were brutal.  what was he thinking with that tackle for the penalty.  He did have a few good moments though.

good to see Stevie keeping the form.  Glad he got the goal, especially after the reports from his autobiography
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: Gabriel_Hurl on December 19, 2006, 06:24:30 PM
tonights game in doubt - pitch inspection at the minute - fog at Anfield


Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: laoislad on December 23, 2006, 12:36:17 AM
Should be another handy 3 points tomorrow lads. Be nice to get christmas period off to a good start
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: gawa316 on December 23, 2006, 02:50:32 PM
Team for today:

Reina
Finan, Carra, Agger, Riise
Pennant, Gerrard, Alonso, Garcia
Kuyt, Bellamy

Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: laoislad on December 23, 2006, 04:19:00 PM
1-0 Bellamy ;D
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: J70 on December 23, 2006, 04:23:34 PM
1-0 Bellamy ;D

Awful game though. Watford don't make it easy. Hopefully Liverpool will get another before the end as Watford push up a bit.
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: laoislad on December 23, 2006, 04:25:51 PM
 



Awful game though. Watford don't make it easy. Hopefully Liverpool will get another before the end as Watford push up a bit.
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where you watching it?
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: J70 on December 23, 2006, 04:28:26 PM




Awful game though. Watford don't make it easy. Hopefully Liverpool will get another before the end as Watford push up a bit.
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where you watching it?

Its the live match on the Fox Soccer Channel in the US. Most of the big English games are available on the internet as well - the lack of broadband in Ireland might be an impediment in that respect though.

Bellamy just missed a sitter when clean through!
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: laoislad on December 23, 2006, 04:33:07 PM
I have broadband do you know any website where i might get it or games in the future?
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: J70 on December 23, 2006, 04:37:36 PM
I have broadband do you know any website where i might get it or games in the future?

Get them here: http://www.myp2p.eu/Saturday.htm. You'll have to download programmes such as PPMate, PPLive or whichever to watch them.

The Liverpool game is available here http://www.myp2p.eu/Matches/Match2.htm at the moment.

Keeper just denied Carragher another goal for the decade with a great save!
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: J70 on December 23, 2006, 04:45:59 PM
Crouch just hit the post from the edge of the box...
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: J70 on December 23, 2006, 04:49:24 PM
2-0!

Screamer from Alonso - whipped it into the top corner from 25 yards!
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: laoislad on December 23, 2006, 04:51:05 PM
GREAT STUFF ;D
Tried downloading those programs and got the game but it keeps stoping and starting
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: J70 on December 23, 2006, 04:52:30 PM
GREAT STUFF ;D
Tried downloading those programs and got the game but it keeps stoping and starting

Some days the streams aren't great, other days they're excellent. You're better off trying a few of them to get a good one. Not all are in English though!
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: J70 on December 23, 2006, 04:54:47 PM
2-0 final score.

Seven clean sheets in a row.
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: laoislad on December 23, 2006, 05:06:13 PM
Seven clean sheets in a row is great.Isn't it a pity we threw away points at start of season
On this form we'll give Barca a right bash
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: J70 on December 23, 2006, 05:18:07 PM
Seven clean sheets in a row is great.Isn't it a pity we threw away points at start of season
On this form we'll give Barca a right bash

Hopefully. However, the fixture list has been relatively kind of late, whereas it wasn't earlier in the season. The next two or three weeks will tell a lot: Blackburn away, Bolton at home, Arsenal in the cup.
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: laoislad on December 23, 2006, 06:00:56 PM
Should be beating Blackburn and Bolton...Arsenal in cup gonna be tough
Which would you rather lads beating Arsenal in FA Cup or Carling Cup? consider now of course if we win in Carling cup we're only one step away from Wembly
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: GalwayBayBoy on December 23, 2006, 06:29:45 PM
Makes you wonder why we couldn't have started the season like this? Even if we were within 6 or 7 points of the top two we'd still be in with a shout but we let the gap get too big unfortunately.
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: laoislad on December 23, 2006, 06:41:45 PM
Its been happining last few years though hasn't it,we start awful then go on a great run till end of season
Think we are gonna have to settle for 3rd this year and maybe hopefully one or more of the Cups..Then bring on the Arabs Billions ;D
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: laoislad on December 24, 2006, 01:58:03 AM
Agreed 5ive times but the likes of Wigan nearly got a draw out of Chelsea today and United have been up against it with lesser teams too(west ham) so you can only beat whats put in front of you,Don't think Everton will hammer us when we meet at Anfield like they did in first match
We are on the right track so hopefully we'll get our Champions League spot and make good signings.The Pools future does look good though you'd have to admit
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: laoislad on December 27, 2006, 01:06:53 PM
Very Bad result yesterday we were awful in second half,Really think Fowler should be given a chance now
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: glens73 on December 27, 2006, 02:05:44 PM
Probably right, laoislad, Kuyt is a hard worker but is not a natural goalscorer.

There's not enough goals in the team from midfield as well as the forwards. I think Gonzalez has been poor and is struggling to adapt to the premiership.

Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: laoislad on December 30, 2006, 02:49:58 PM
Tough one enough today..On paper we are far better but the season is a bit up and down so far so i reckon a draw would be a good result today
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: laoislad on December 30, 2006, 02:57:12 PM
Whats the story with Fowler not getting a game.he's not even on the feckin bench...and who is 40 Martin?
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: laoislad on December 30, 2006, 03:49:47 PM
1-0 Garcia!!!
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: laoislad on December 30, 2006, 05:06:00 PM
1-0 great result
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: Midman on January 01, 2007, 05:50:59 PM


hehe, 3-0 over Bolton, first ime we've beaten them soundly in a long time. We looked decent today, played good football and mixed it physically when we had to. Having a semo settled team helps I think, Kuyt did well again i thought
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: laoislad on January 01, 2007, 07:15:49 PM
Yeah i agree great win today Kuyt is a great player
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: laoislad on January 01, 2007, 07:58:01 PM
Wonder what signings if any we will get this month..Ive heard Upson,David Villa,Lucas Neill just too name a few
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: Cloc Mor on January 01, 2007, 08:05:16 PM
Do we really need Neill - I thought Finnan was doing a good job at the minute.  Might be a few other going out the other end, mind you.
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: laoislad on January 01, 2007, 08:07:15 PM
Don't think we need Neil...Anytime i see him play he either gives away penos or gets sent off i don't really rate him...Is it true Cisse could still play for Liverpool?
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: supersarsfields on January 02, 2007, 11:55:38 AM
Great performance in the second half by Liverpool. They played some of the best attacking football i've seen from them in a while. An to do it against Bolton who are so hard to break down normally is quite a result. Kuyt is proving to be a very important buy for us!! Works very hard and is very unselfish with his distrubution.
Pennant finally put in a good game, but he needs to start doing this week in week out to justify him staying!! Too unreliable at the minute.
The defence is beginning to find form again as well. Carragher is getting back to his best and even Hypia, who i had my doubts about at the start of the year, is playing well.
Just a real pity we mucked thing up so badly at the start of the year as both Cheski and United have dropped points in the last wee while!!
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: laoislad on January 02, 2007, 01:30:11 PM
got a great dvd at christmas.. 100 greatest moments of the kop.Brings back some great memories
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: corn02 on January 02, 2007, 01:51:39 PM
I too agree that Neil is not a excellent buy but at one million and acting purely as cover to Finnan, i think it could be a shrewd move. I read during the week that Newcastle were prepared to pay £12 million for Crouch, yes please if it paves the way for Villa (a distant chance i believe).

On yesterdays match the second half showed us at our best. Pennant is slowly but surely justifying the money tag. He is our first natural winger in a while who will get cross after cross in. If Crouch could head we would be laughing.
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: supersarsfields on January 02, 2007, 02:35:27 PM
That's the problem, for such a big fella he's always going to get plenty of chances with his head. Unfortunately he hasn't a clue how to head the ball!! If you ask me he's better with the ball to feet than he is in the air!! The misses against Blackburn were terrible!! It would be like Newcastle to offer £12 million for him alright!! And if they did i'd bite their hand of for it!!
Newcastle is a graveyard for decent players!!
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: laoislad on January 02, 2007, 03:07:25 PM
I actually like Crouch i think he is one of the few decent genuine players left,but i agree with what everyone is saying.he has so much to his game but lacks a awful lot he really isn't a Liverpool type of player,.but in fairness great goal yesterday
By the way is it true Cisse can play?is he only loaned out?
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: AZOffaly on January 02, 2007, 04:05:07 PM
Cisse is loaned to Marseille, but with a view to a permanent deal. But lets not go there eh? Cisse is a busted flush.

I've said it before, and I'll say it again. I would prefer there were minimal, or no, transfer deals done this January and even in the Summer. It takes a while to bed players in, and barring someone exceptional becomes available, and LFC have the money to do a deal, I say leave it so. Let's not go down the path of buying 3 or 4 more lads who take time to bed in, without adding anything major anyway.

If you look at LFC on paper this season as opposed to last, they are a better team and squad. But players need time to learn about each other, the manager, the environment etc.

Don't get me wrong, I'd love the money and the chance to buy a world class Striker and a couple of fantastic wingers, but that's unlikely to happen in fairness. As such, lets just see how this season ends and next season begins, and enough of the buying of decent squad players.
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: SuperDooperCooper on January 02, 2007, 04:20:54 PM
If Liverpool are offered 12m for Crouch you have to let him go. He will never be a regular scorer of goals. The misses against Blackburn had me tearing my hair out. Most telling of all was the miss at the end of the Bolton game, Crough just has to be scoring headers from 6 yards out. We will finish 3rd at a canter I'd say, lose to Barca and go on a run in the cup (after beating Arsenal). I wouldn't splash the cash now but I would go for quality in the summer if DIC put up the cash, buy two or three 15-20m players, the type of player Liverpool can't afford now. Anyone know when Momo is back?
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: laoislad on January 02, 2007, 05:16:12 PM
when is the Carling Cup match with Arsenal
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: Gabriel_Hurl on January 02, 2007, 06:32:27 PM
FA Cup is on Saturday
Carling Cup is on Tuesday night

David Villa was in the directors box at Anfield yesterday
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: laoislad on January 02, 2007, 07:09:28 PM
RTK: A RECLAIM THE KOP POEM
Paul Jones, RTK 02 January 2007 
  Following on from yesterday's official launch of the campaign to 'Reclaim The Kop', here's the first of many poems we'll be publishing over the next ten weeks. 

 
 
Some of you just may have heard, about the RTK
Then some of you may not have yet, so it's time to have our say
RTK, just 3 letters, but means a thousand things
From banners, flags and attitude, to all the songs we sing
 
It's all about the spirit, the spirit of the Kop
Reclaim our terrace culture, that put us at the top
Most knowledgeable fans throughout the world is how we once were known
But is that a reputation that we have now outgrown?
 
I'd like to think it wasn't, that we still show respect
Sing songs different to all the rest, that's how it should be kept
No Great Escape or Easy chants, that's not how we are seen
Leave all that stuff to the ones that follow the national team
 
Away fans stand and sing all game, ours sit there in a bore
Then as one the muppets rise, “You’re not singing anymore”
The irony is lost on them, new fans all seem the same
Mocking those that sing while they’ve sat silent through the game
 
If they sing anti-scouse songs, it’s rude to laugh along
Remember who you’re sitting with, it’s just another song
The same old tired insults, original ones are rare
Sing something sharp back at them, don’t just sit and stare
 
Our nation is called Liverpool, we belong in no other place
But the shrine we know as Anfield, and Liverpool is our race
Black or white, man or women, we all stand as one
To support our club the way we know, as fans we've always shone
 
We clap the other goalie, applaud the better side
We're not just bums on seats you know, not just here for the ride
We have a reputation, traditions we have earnt
But some fans turn a blind eye, it’s about time they learnt
 
What Liverpool fans all stand for, and why we're so concerned
We don't throw away the standing, that older Kopites earned
As our chairman once announced, the clubs exists in his hands
"Only to win trophies and be a source of pride for its fans"
 
The fans are the heartbeat, we all have our role
To maintain the spirit and keep Liverpool's soul
It's not just a game, or a day out with the wife
Supporting our club is part of our life
 
Respect the Reds that stood before, and passed the mantle on
It's up to us to make them proud, as Liverpool we're one
In '89 we lost our friends, it's time to sing out loud
Reclaim The Kop where they once stood and make our Anfield proud!


 
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: Gabriel_Hurl on January 03, 2007, 02:02:08 PM
Subside Sports have released 2 pieces of LFC Heritage gear

http://www.subsidesports.com/uk/store/product_list.jsp?id=402&mid=-1&oby=&hos=0&srs=-1&txtSearch=&cmbPriceStart=-1&cmbPriceEnd=-1&page=1&brc=


 

£44.99




£29.99
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: AZOffaly on January 03, 2007, 02:16:34 PM
F*cks sake, they were awful. Why would anyone buy them? And every time I see that flecky abomination I think of Glen Hysen!!
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: J70 on January 03, 2007, 02:19:55 PM
F*cks sake, they were awful. Why would anyone buy them? And every time I see that flecky abomination I think of Glen Hysen!!

Even worse, Torben Piecnik!

The late 80s/early 90s certainly was the nadir of soccer gear design!
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: Gabriel_Hurl on January 03, 2007, 02:20:25 PM
Glen Hysen was quality AZ - I hope you aren't saying something otherwise
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: J70 on January 03, 2007, 02:25:18 PM
Glen Hysen was quality AZ - I hope you aren't saying something otherwise

He certainly was very highly rated when he Liverpool signed him. Maybe he just fell victim to the overall decline in the club after Hillsborough.
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: Gabriel_Hurl on January 03, 2007, 02:29:08 PM
He was part of the team that won our last league title. Then Kenny quit and Sou ............. well, Sou know the rest.

See what I did there?  ;D ;D
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: brokencrossbar1 on January 03, 2007, 03:33:29 PM
Don't forget the legend that was Nicky Tanner lads!  That Cabdy jersey always reminds me of "hit the crossbar" Rosenthal.

Hurl is it likely that Crouch will go to finance the move for Villa.  have to say I would like to see Villa coming or Torres but it is tough on Crouchie, and to go to the striker's graveyard, sorry for him if it happens.
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: Spiritof98 on January 03, 2007, 06:15:56 PM
Lads just a query, what is Benitez's mentality when it comes to Crouch, he couldn't hit a barn door for weeks and weeks when he signed and was consistantly starting games, yet from about April last year he has been England no 1 striker by a mile, the goals he scored at the start of the season were great but Benitez has reverted him to a last 10 mins player.  Maybe i've missed a dip in form (not a big pool fan) i don't know? but it just seems a weird one to me. I know Bellamy has come in but he has hardly set the scoring charts alight
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: J70 on January 03, 2007, 07:30:54 PM
Lads just a query, what is Benitez's mentality when it comes to Crouch, he couldn't hit a barn door for weeks and weeks when he signed and was consistantly starting games, yet from about April last year he has been England no 1 striker by a mile, the goals he scored at the start of the season were great but Benitez has reverted him to a last 10 mins player.  Maybe i've missed a dip in form (not a big pool fan) i don't know? but it just seems a weird one to me. I know Bellamy has come in but he has hardly set the scoring charts alight

Bellamy's been playing quite well though, and has got a few in the past few weeks. I think Benitez has concluded that the Bellamy-Kuyt partnership is the best one for the team.

The big test is going to come when Sissoko returns. What happens with Gerrard then.
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: Gabriel_Hurl on January 05, 2007, 07:16:40 PM
http://www.reclaimthekop.co.uk/cgi-bin/main.pl?action=campaign_news&nid=7

RTK Truth Day - Liverpool vs Arsenal
Banners, Mosaic, Chants

"THE TRUTH" - MOSAIC FOR 6 MINUTES

On 15th April 1989, tens of thousands of us set off to support our beloved Redmen in the semi-final of the world’s oldest and greatest football knockout competition - the F.A Cup. 96 of us never returned, crushed to death inside Hillsborough stadium - an unspeakable tragedy which we, as Liverpudlians, will never forget. The memory of loved ones who never came home lives on in the eternal flame that now burns alongside the iconic Liverbird as the enduring symbol of Liverpool Football Club.

Very recently, the memory of those loved ones was once again desecrated by Kelvin Mackenzie, the despicable former editor of low-life gutter rag The Sun. This man is almost beyond contempt - but not quite. Not only does he disrespect the grief of families still at a loss to come to terms with the events of 15/4/89, he denigrates the city and the people of Liverpool. He is our enemy - he has made himself so.

He also besmirches the history and tradition of the fabled F.A Cup. In showing our wholehearted revulsion towards this wretch and his supporters, every F.A Cup tie involving Liverpool F.C is designated Truth Day. Starting with Saturday’s tie against Arsenal, the first 6 minutes of every F.A Cup tie will commemorate the Hillsborough 96, their families, and the ongoing plight for Justice. For 6 minutes, raise the roof with songs for the 96, songs of Truth - and songs of unrestrained disgust at Mackenzie, shameless perpetrator of shabby lies.

Saturday 6th January will be an official RTK flag day – Any JUSTICE banners and flags you have, bring them! Any banners at all (KFS compliant), bring them! The game is live on the BBC and the perfect opportunity to raise awareness of the fight for Justice, as well and letting the world know we’re still the greatest fans about. It’s time to make ourselves seen and time to make ourselves heard.

A flyer campaign will be in operation on the day of the game, highlighting the plans for the 6 MINUTES FOR THE 96. A banner will be held aloft at the front of the Kop for the first 6 minutes of the game, non-stop songs of Justice for the 96 until the banner is dropped. The perfect start to maintaining an eye opening atmosphere for the rest of the game.

The RTK have also arranged for a crowd mosaic in The Kop. Reading THE TRUTH we are going for maximum impact. Remember the BBC - recent employers of MacKenzie - are showing the game live. We ask all Kopites to hold the mosiac up for the whole duration of the 6 munite protest. Your view may be slightly impaired but please remember who you are doing this for.

We will require your help to lay out the mosaic on Saturday morning. Anybody that can lend a hand, please make their way to Shankly Gates for 10am on Saturday. If you think you'll be able to help please register your interest on the forum. It's expected to last around 1-2 hours. We also require volunteers to hand out flyers on Saturday. Again, if you can make it please meet outside the Arkles pub at 3pm.

DON'T BUY THE SUN. JUSTICE FOR THE 96!

RTK THE 96 - Bring your banners!
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: J70 on January 06, 2007, 06:15:26 PM
Not looking good for Liverpool at half time. The first goal from Rosicky was just a class strike, but what kind of defending was that for the second one? Gerrard won't enjoy looking at either.

Arsenal can just continue to sit back and play on the break now, so I can't see Liverpool clawing this back. Arsenal could easily get another too.

I thought Alonso should have had a penalty. Definitely looked like contact to me.
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: laoislad on January 06, 2007, 07:07:16 PM
3-1 Arsenal jaysis Dudek had nothing to do in 2nd half and Henry still scores in fairness Henry is just pure class great goal
Champions League here we come :-[ :-[
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: J70 on January 06, 2007, 07:22:53 PM
Just as I wasn't going to get carried away with the recent run of results against crap teams, I don't think all is suddenly doom and gloom again after today. It was just a bad overall performance, with some shocking defending thrown in. The second and third Arsenal goals were ridiculous. Three or four players had chances to get tackles in on Rosicky in the lead up to the second, whereas there isn't much to say about Carragher's mistake for the third. Given their second-half dominance, Liverpool could easily have got something, but Arsenal defended very solidly on the night, and Liverpool can have no complaints. Anyway, results away to Watford and home to Chelsea (far from a certainty obviously) will wipe this away pretty quickly. That Liverpool need the Dubai money to bring in a few top class players is hardly news. The main thing for this season is a Champions League spot, which should be easily attainable, given the competition.

I hope Benitez sends the reserves out on Tuesday. Give the likes of Fowler, Palletta, Warnock and some of the young lads a run. Dudek could use the practice too. I doubt if Wenger will be fielding a strong team.
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: Dinny Breen on January 06, 2007, 07:35:19 PM
Liverpool were one dimensional and never looked like scoring from open play. Aside from a 10 minute spell after the Liverpool goal Arsenal were always in control.

You might reclaim the Kop but you won't be reclaiming the league title with that side any time soon.... ;)
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: Norf Tyrone on January 06, 2007, 07:37:17 PM
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Give the likes of Fowler, Palletta, Warnock

Is Warnock not at Wolves on loan? Or is that Potter?

I take it there will be a lot of critical remarks about Alonso's dive? Thought Liverpool were poor today, and carried little threat. The 2nd and 3rd goals were poor defending, but do you not think Dudek was flat footed for the first too?
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: laoislad on January 06, 2007, 07:42:23 PM
It was the FA Cup tonight Dinny so no need for comments on the premiership and Arsenal are way off re claiming the Premiership too
As for tonight the defending was awful,Don't think Arsenal were all that good either and if that 3rd hadn't gone in Liverpool were on for a 2nd but as good as a goal it was by Henry he should never been allowed in with the ball,but sure how many times has Carrargher saved us in the past so really it's not fair just to blame him
Really for all the ball we had we didn't create enough clear cut chances thought Bellamy would have been brought on around the hour mark
So the FA Cup is gone now so whats next?
2nd or 3rd in league and Champions League...Carling Cup i suppose is a trophy but not what a club of Liverpools stature should be bothered with but if we were to get Chelsea in final it be worth winning i suppose
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: J70 on January 06, 2007, 07:46:34 PM
Liverpool were one dimensional and never looked like scoring from open play. Aside from a 10 minute spell after the Liverpool goal Arsenal were always in control.

You might reclaim the Kop but you won't be reclaiming the league title with that side any time soon.... ;)

Whereas Arsenal are powering ahead with the rebuilding of their title challenge... ;)
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: J70 on January 06, 2007, 07:48:54 PM
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Give the likes of Fowler, Palletta, Warnock

Is Warnock not at Wolves on loan? Or is that Potter?

I take it there will be a lot of critical remarks about Alonso's dive? Thought Liverpool were poor today, and carried little threat. The 2nd and 3rd goals were poor defending, but do you not think Dudek was flat footed for the first too?

Was it a dive? I watched it on an internet stream, so I haven't seen any detailed replays. Looked like contact to me, but I stand to be corrected. If it was a dive, then the card was deserved. Its not as if he is someone who does that every week.

Dudek probably should have done better for the first, but he's hardly played in the past year, so you can't be too hard on him.
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: Dinny Breen on January 06, 2007, 08:02:46 PM
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It was the FA Cup tonight Dinny so no need for comments on the premiership and Arsenal are way off re claiming the Premiership

It was a tongue in cheek comment, hence the wink. Both Liverpool's squad as Arsenal's are currently not good enough however Arsenal can live with and beat the top sides away and home wins over Liverpool, away win over Manure and away draw to the Russians, Liverpool imho lack quality up front Arsenal are too young to cope with physical football at the mo' but will come good in the next two years.

There was contact on Alsonso but he brought his trailing right foot across to hit Silva, seen them given but the ref was perfectly positoned and wasn't codded. Not a blatent dive though imho..
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: BenDover on January 06, 2007, 08:14:10 PM
Anyone shed any light on why there was a 6 minute protest at the start of the match?

Just read the previous page and found my answer  ::)
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: Dinny Breen on January 06, 2007, 08:17:24 PM
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Anyone shed any light on why there was a 6 minute protest at the start of the match?

check gabriel Hurls last post on the previous page..

The protest was a credit to Liverpool fans everywhere, a touching moment I tought, the BBC did their best not to mention as well...
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: GalwayBayBoy on January 06, 2007, 08:55:41 PM
What a shite performance. What on earth was Dudek doing out there? He looked yards off the pace. Reina I feel would have saved at least 2 of the 3 goals. If he wanted to rest Reina why not do it in the Carling Cup game instead? The defending was atrocious as well for nearly all the Arsenal goals. Real gifts.

Well done to the fans on the protest. Came across fantastic.

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I take it there will be a lot of critical remarks about Alonso's dive?

Considering there was clear contact I don't think he should even have been booked.

http://homepage.mac.com/rob.cozens/LFC/iMovieTheater23.html
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: laoislad on January 07, 2007, 01:23:22 PM
What do you think of this rumour lads
The reason Craig Bellamy wasn't used last night is beacuse Rafa didn't want to cup tie him as he is planning to sell him to Aston Villa in order to finance money to buy Darren Bent from Charlton
What ye think could it be true?
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: Square Ball on January 07, 2007, 01:31:13 PM
What a shite performance. What on earth was Dudek doing out there? He looked yards off the pace. Reina I feel would have saved at least 2 of the 3 goals. If he wanted to rest Reina why not do it in the Carling Cup game instead? The defending was atrocious as well for nearly all the Arsenal goals. Real gifts.

Well done to the fans on the protest. Came across fantastic.

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I take it there will be a lot of critical remarks about Alonso's dive?

Considering there was clear contact I don't think he should even have been booked.

http://homepage.mac.com/rob.cozens/LFC/iMovieTheater23.html

when i click on the link it opens as an e-mail, haven't see the incident so cant comment
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: supersarsfields on January 08, 2007, 09:32:07 AM
Terrible performance. Never really looked like causing a threat. Thought Garcia, Crouch, Pennant were all crap!! I would clear these out for a start. As i said before if Newcastle were stupid enough to offer 12 M for Crouch them liverpool should bite their hand of. When he plays for liverpool we become one dimensional like Dinny says!! Lofting a long ball in to a big target man!!
Kuyt to me still looks like he'll be a great signing!! Works his ass of and has great control on the ground.
Ref the Alonso booking. If def wasn't a booking as there was contact but whether or not it was a penalty i'm not sure. Ref should have just played on as i felt the card was harsh.
Henry did feck all for so long and then makes just one chance and puts it away!! He'll be back to his best in no time unfortunately!!
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: magpie seanie on January 08, 2007, 12:40:06 PM
What was the protest about and more importantly what is it supposed to achieve? Its not clear to me.
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: J70 on January 08, 2007, 01:01:59 PM
What was the protest about and more importantly what is it supposed to achieve? Its not clear to me.

I think there are still journalists and others out there who maintain that the Liverpool fans were to blame for Hillsborough.
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: laoislad on January 08, 2007, 01:04:47 PM
I think it was more that they reckon Liverpool fans stole wallets from the dead lying on the pitch,it was reported in The Sun newspaper at the time and i don't think The Sun ever withdrew the comments
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: winghalfun on January 08, 2007, 01:17:45 PM
Kelvin McKenzie who was editor of the Sun made very hurtful and scurrelous remarks in the immediate aftermath of the Hillsborough disaster regarding the alleged behaviour of Liverpool fans.
In recent years he subsequently withdrew his remarks but just within the last few weeks he has stated that his apology was false and that he now stands by all that was written.
This is what the 6 minute protest was about (the length the game lasted)

Was listening to Alan Green's commentary on Radio 5 Live and he was very fervent in his approval of what the Liverpool fans were doing.

He more or less said "I was there that day and have a fair enough picture of what exactly happened".
He was very scathing on McKenzie and his disgraceful turnaround.
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: J70 on January 08, 2007, 01:18:07 PM
I think it was more that they reckon Liverpool fans stole wallets from the dead lying on the pitch,it was reported in The Sun newspaper at the time and i don't think The Sun ever withdrew the comments

Of course, but the Sun article at the time, titled "The Truth" also alleged that drunk fans without tickets caused the crush by trying to force their way into the stand past the cops. I think there was a lot of anger over the past few weeks because Kelvin McKenzie recently claimed that he only retracted the allegations under pressure from above.
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: Sausalito Bay on January 08, 2007, 01:39:53 PM
And the reason for the protest being held yesterday specifically is that the BBC has recently employed McKenzie to work on a number of programmes for them. It was as much a protest against the BBC as McKenzie.
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: Norf Tyrone on January 08, 2007, 01:57:42 PM
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Of course, but the Sun article at the time, titled "The Truth" also alleged that drunk fans without tickets caused the crush by trying to force their way into the stand past the cops.

I don;t want to barge in on a very emotive issue, but was this not the case? I was speaking to someone at the game a few years back and they said the crush outside from ticketless fans was severe, that they HAD to open the gate outside. Not too sure if he said they were drunk or not.
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: GalwayBayBoy on January 08, 2007, 03:10:36 PM
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Of course, but the Sun article at the time, titled "The Truth" also alleged that drunk fans without tickets caused the crush by trying to force their way into the stand past the cops.

I don;t want to barge in on a very emotive issue, but was this not the case? I was speaking to someone at the game a few years back and they said the crush outside from ticketless fans was severe, that they HAD to open the gate outside. Not too sure if he said they were drunk or not.

There was a hold range of problems that led to the tragedy. Firstly Liverpool fans were given the smaller Leppings Lane end of the ground even though they had a much bigger support than Notts Forest. Many Liverpool fans arrived late due to traffic problems and poor directions leading to the stadium. The gates were opened and the fans were coralled by the police into two small central pens while there was plenty of space in the pens to either side of them.  Fans entering at the rear had no idea that fans at the very front were being crushed up against the wire fence. Police thought for a while that it was a pitch invasion and tried to keep the fans inside the wire fence rather than trying to help them out. The fans were no more drunk than any set of fans arriving at any stadium for a match.
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: laoislad on January 08, 2007, 03:18:14 PM
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What ever happened these people lost there lives and thats the important thing to remember
If only one had died it would have been one too many
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: Carmen Stateside on January 08, 2007, 03:32:55 PM
Spot on Laoislad!!!
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: Sausalito Bay on January 08, 2007, 04:00:36 PM
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I don;t want to barge in on a very emotive issue, but was this not the case? I was speaking to someone at the game a few years back and they said the crush outside from ticketless fans was severe, that they HAD to open the gate outside. Not too sure if he said they were drunk or not.

Unfortunately many people are still of that opinion, ignoring the fact that the Taylor report places the blame squarely on the shoulders of the police and others in charge of managing supporters that day.

To try and briefly highlight a few of the facts of the day;

There were approx 24,500 Liverpool fans with tickets that day, and due to the peculiar segregation requirements of an FA Cup semi final (ground split approx 50:50), there were 23 turnstiles available for those fans, which could have been managable if it were not for the fact that most of the coaches were held up by police searches and road works, meaning a large number arrived at the same time.

When these fans made their way to the stadium they joined other queuing fans who were being further delayed by police searches at the stadium gates. There were only 3 gates, leading to 10 turnstiles for the 10,000 fans going to the Leppings Lane terracing, with the police carrying out searches at these gates. With the supporters seated in the West Stand also using these gates, an inevitable bottleneck was created, exascurbated by the stream of fans arriving off delayed coaches.

As you can imagine in such a scenario, a sense of panic spread amongst the crowd, which surely wasn't helped by the fact that kick off was fast approaching. At this point a police officer who saw what was happening requested that the kick off be delayed to ease the panic and allow fans to get in safely. This request was denied. A request was then made for an exit gate to be opened to ease the congestion, this was also denied.

With the build up of fans joining those already queuing in a narrow entry, the natural momentum of the fans created a crush at the turnstiles. Officers again asked for a gate to be opened, and after hesitation it was eventually agreed.

The terracing was split into pens, and the entrance tunnel to the two central pens, 3 & 4, was directly opposite the gate that had been opened. Normally when these pens are filled, police close the tunnel and direct fans to the pens on either side.

There were no police to stop fans going down that central tunnel that day, so when the gate was opened, hundreds of fans were forced down that tunnel into already full pens.

If you ever see aerial photos of the Leppings Lane that day, you can't help but notice the empty spaces at each side of the terracing.

When the first people started to spill onto the track, dog handlers were called in to keep them behind the fences.


Of course some fans were drinking that day, just as some fans drink at every match, but for people to still trot out the excuse that drunken fans stampeded into the stadium is a disgrace given the volume of evidence, eyewitness accounts and a Lord Chief Justice's report that are all readily available for anyone who wants to know the truth.


If you want to educate yourself, spend 10 minute here www.contrast.org/hillsborough (http://www.contrast.org/hillsborough)
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: two man tackle on January 08, 2007, 08:34:55 PM
watched pool and arsenal on sat thought the "protest" was interesting but can somebody fill me in what this mckenzie fella is supposed to have done wrong? is he to be villified for just doing his editorial job? typical liverpool fan attitude, blame somebody else.
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: J70 on January 08, 2007, 09:33:48 PM
watched pool and arsenal on sat thought the "protest" was interesting but can somebody fill me in what this mckenzie fella is supposed to have done wrong? is he to be villified for just doing his editorial job? typical liverpool fan attitude, blame somebody else.

Maybe you should read up on it (try the previous posts in this thread for a start) a bit before coming out with your idiotic "typical Liverpool fan" shite.
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: laoislad on January 08, 2007, 09:57:41 PM
Don't mind him or rise to him J70 he has 14 posts and nearly every one has been trying to cause a row
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: laoislad on January 09, 2007, 05:15:33 PM
Wonder will Dudek keep his place tonight lads?
Surely God will get a run out?
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: J70 on January 09, 2007, 05:19:53 PM
Wonder will Dudek keep his place tonight lads?
Surely God will get a run out?

Apparently Dudek was promised a start in all domestic cup games, so I would assume he will.

Fowler should get a start too, although Benitez sounded like he was leaning towards full strength after Saturday's debacle.

I'd imagine Arsenal will rest quite a few players though.
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: laoislad on January 09, 2007, 07:01:36 PM
Dudek,Peltier,Paletta,Hyypia,Warnok,Gonzalez,Gerrard,Guthrie,Aurelio,Fowler,Bellamy
Tonights team v Arsenal...Not that strong is it?
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: Gabriel_Hurl on January 09, 2007, 08:26:34 PM
1-1 after 35 mins

suspected fractured tibia for gonzalez
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: heganboy on January 09, 2007, 08:42:21 PM
4-1 down not even half time...
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: laoislad on January 09, 2007, 08:42:48 PM
Half time Liverpool 1-4  Arsenal
What the f**k is going on?
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: laoislad on January 09, 2007, 08:47:26 PM
40/1 to win outright in 2nd half now   12/1 to qualify for next round
Remember Istanbul i always regret not putting money on them then gonna do it now 12/1 looks alright it's worth the tenner
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: laoislad on January 09, 2007, 08:52:01 PM
Save your money, put it on Laois to win the All-Ireland  :)

Laois and Liverpool Im really blessed when it comes to my teams arent I :-[
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: Dubh driocht on January 09, 2007, 08:56:31 PM
Disaster.Confidence is low. Barcelona looks a little daunting.
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: heganboy on January 09, 2007, 08:59:10 PM
At least Fowler knows where the net is- and that is without a run in the side...
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: Guillem2 on January 09, 2007, 09:00:17 PM
Laughed my bollocks off at the defending! Yes Fowler knows where the net is, but Dudeck doesn't!
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: Gabriel_Hurl on January 09, 2007, 09:01:34 PM
Sooner we get Jagielka the better
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: Dubh driocht on January 09, 2007, 09:04:41 PM
The commitment to play Dudek in the cup games is a bit silly- his confidence was low after saturday and tonight will hardly be the making of him.Raffa is a man of principle but pragmatism is sometimes a better option.
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: GalwayBayBoy on January 09, 2007, 09:05:03 PM
Jaysus Dudek is a one man disaster zone.
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: Guillem2 on January 09, 2007, 09:09:22 PM
Great penalty save from Dudek!
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: Dubh driocht on January 09, 2007, 09:12:41 PM
Always said he was a good keeper !
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: Guillem2 on January 09, 2007, 09:13:48 PM
You can't blame him for the 5th.  How many is it going to be? Liverpool are all over the place at the back. A total joke.
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: Dubh driocht on January 09, 2007, 09:17:30 PM
F this for a game of golf.There's only the Mc Kenna Cup to look forward to now.
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: deiseach on January 09, 2007, 09:18:34 PM
Christ almighty. In what way is this any different to the hammering West Ham got at Reading? :-\
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: Guillem2 on January 09, 2007, 09:19:59 PM
2-5, great goal from Gerard. Start of a great comeback?
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: never kickt a ball on January 09, 2007, 09:27:44 PM
2-5 down and two stretchered off! What a night for Liverpool!!
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: Dubh driocht on January 09, 2007, 09:28:30 PM
At least Cliftonville have won at the Oval.
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: J70 on January 09, 2007, 09:29:00 PM
Jaysus lads, what the hell is going on? :o

I'd forgotten it was on and arrive back in the office to find Arsenal winning 5-2!

So much for the big teams still having to come to Anfield! :(
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: Guillem2 on January 09, 2007, 09:33:41 PM
3-5! The comeback continues!
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: ONeill on January 09, 2007, 09:36:42 PM
AH lads you wouldn't do that would you. Think of the children for the love of God.
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: Dubh driocht on January 09, 2007, 09:37:06 PM
The number 5 in sport is very significant.Apart from Arsenal's tally tonight. Lough Derg if we equalise.
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: Guillem2 on January 09, 2007, 09:38:22 PM
Oops! 3-6. 4 for Baptista
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: Dubh driocht on January 09, 2007, 09:38:47 PM
Don't like black toast anyway. Over and out.
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: Guillem2 on January 09, 2007, 09:43:28 PM
1914 since Liverpool conceded 6 goals at home. Hard to believe.
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: J70 on January 09, 2007, 09:51:15 PM
On the bright side, we can now concentrate all our energy on the League and the upcoming Barcelona fixture... :P :o
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: laoislad on January 09, 2007, 09:51:53 PM
Some joke nothing else i can say
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: J70 on January 09, 2007, 09:54:14 PM
Some joke nothing else i can say

I haven't seen any of it yet. Is there a main culprit, or was it just general defensive chaos?
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: AZOffaly on January 09, 2007, 09:57:32 PM
Can I be the first to say....

Rafa Out!!!


 ;)

Seriously though, the capitulations to Arsenal 3 times now, as well as Man United at Old Trafford and Everton at Goodison are very worrying signs to me. Something is seriously awry when Liverpool concede 6 goals to anybody, not to mind at Anfield. regardless of the team he sent out. Is he trying too hard? All this rotation shite? I'm a firm believer in a settled side, with changes only for injuries/suspensions or the occasional rest.

I'm not too worried about tonight in isolation, but there are too many of these inept performances piling up this season. It's all very well to say we will put it up to Barcalona, but in fairness they'd be liable to score 7 or 8 against LFC if they perform as they have done in the other 'big' games this season.
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: laoislad on January 09, 2007, 09:58:15 PM
For me Dudek should have stopped a couple  and Paletta was at fault for a few as well
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: J70 on January 09, 2007, 10:04:09 PM
Can I be the first to say....

Rafa Out!!!


 ;)

Seriously though, the capitulations to Arsenal 3 times now, as well as Man United at Old Trafford and Everton at Goodison are very worrying signs to me. Something is seriously awry when Liverpool concede 6 goals to anybody, not to mind at Anfield. regardless of the team he sent out. Is he trying too hard? All this rotation shite? I'm a firm believer in a settled side, with changes only for injuries/suspensions or the occasional rest.

I'm not too worried about tonight in isolation, but there are too many of these inept performances piling up this season. It's all very well to say we will put it up to Barcalona, but in fairness they'd be liable to score 7 or 8 against LFC if they perform as they have done in the other 'big' games this season.

And just when they seemed to have sorted out the early season defensive problems. I don't really care about being out of the cups, but it is absolutely vital that they get it back together for Watford away on Saturday, especially since I think its Chelsea at home after that.
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: SuperSub on January 09, 2007, 10:18:56 PM
FFS >:(   Arsenal had even the luxury of missing a penalty
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: Goats Do Shave on January 09, 2007, 10:55:42 PM
Don't be too disheartened...the abuse UTD fans got last year for only winning the Carlng cup!!

Arsenal must have been good all the same....7 shots - 6 goals!!???
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: BenDover on January 10, 2007, 08:52:09 AM
OMG what was Rafa thinking...

A complete defensive shambles, Dudek didn't help matters in fact he prob made them worse. And instead of bringing on the Freak Rafa throws on Carragher at a time when Liverpool needed goals!

As a UTD fan I dnt think I'll say much more  :D :D
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: Great Leap Forward on January 10, 2007, 09:30:18 AM
There seems to be a repeat of the Houllier situation happening at Liverpool where a few trophies early in their reign masks a lack of knowledge of the English game and a raft of inadequate signings.

I felt he showed an apathy toward the League Cup last night that he couldn't afford to do as it presented Liverpool with their most realistic chance of winning a trophy. He has been a lucky manager so far. If it wasn't for a once in a lifetime comeback against Milan and a wonder goal from Gerrard his job would be under severe pressure.
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: brokencrossbar1 on January 10, 2007, 09:59:26 AM
I have consistently backed Rafa and have rarely if ever be known to go OTT.  I will not do that now but I have to say that I am worried about the way things are going.  Realistically the only trophies we had a reasonable sout in this year were the two domestic Cups.  To lose in both of those in such devastating fashion is embarressing and some serious soul searching needs to be done.  Like AZ and maybe some others I was around when Liverpool were dominating. 

Two things from that time which are seriously lacking are that Anfield used to be a Fortress where teams were a goal down before the game started.  While they may have the best home record in the League it does not exude the fear in teams that it used to and many games are tougher at home than they should be. 

Secondly, Liverpool used to be able to control games and bring it to their own particular pace.  Maybe Seanie is right when he says that with the abolition of the backpass Liverpool have lost their ability to control games :P.  But seriously they are allowing teams dictate how they play the game too much and not imposing their own game on other teams.  A major look at personnel over the transfer window is needed.  If this deal with DIC doesn't come through maybe it is time that some difficult decisions are made and players sold to fund rebuilding.
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: winghalfun on January 10, 2007, 10:15:24 AM
Was watching with a few Arsenal mates last night and even they couldn't get too excited about their victory because of Liverpool's such inept display.

Stevie G my arse. A wonder goal every now and again does not a leader make.
Yes I know that Dudek and the defence where as leaky as Abi Titmus in a Girls Aloud video but come on Stephen, lets start seeing what all the fuss was about.
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: Uladh on January 10, 2007, 10:31:16 AM

Would Abi Titmus be that leaky in a girls aloud video?

I have long believed that liverpool have a collection of solid pros without much "spark". they have no world class players. noone to turn a game and noone step up to the plate when the shit hits the fan. first one to utter stevie g as a riposte goes the way of flameboy!!

while the arsenal youngsters are good, they are not all that...yet. but they do have a tried and trusted system to adhere to and the movement and speed & accuarcy they pass the ball with never faltered from that of a premiership game.

am i right in saying that if baptista had converted the penalty he'd have tied with frankie bunn's record for goals in a game?
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: johnneycool on January 10, 2007, 10:32:25 AM
Was watching with a few Arsenal mates last night and even they couldn't get too excited about their victory because of Liverpool's such inept display.

Stevie G my arse. A wonder goal every now and again does not a leader make.
Yes I know that Dudek and the defence where as leaky as Abi Titmus in a Girls Aloud video but come on Stephen, lets start seeing what all the fuss was about.

I certainly think questions need asked of Stevie G's input now that he is in centre midfield. His defending is poor, nay almost pathetic at times, Rosicky's second goal on saturday, he pulled out of a block like a big girl, then last night he went sailing into a challenge on Baptiste and was easliy side stepped leaving a clear shot on goal which he duly put away.
With Sissoko back in the reckoning shortly it's back out to the right wing for you I'm afraid.

Sammi, goodbye big lad, it's time for Agger to get the start.

Paletta, where oh where did he come from?
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: Dinny Breen on January 10, 2007, 10:34:59 AM
Last November I posted Liverpool had a average defence, an excellent midfield and a poor attack and that if Liverpool tried to play football against Arsenal, Arsenal would win comfortably. I was told in no certain terms I was talking bollix, in fairness I think Rafa is a good manager but some of his signings are questionable and if I was him I'd sell Gerrard. Gerrard is capable of scoring fantastic goals sush as last nights but he was there last night to lead, he didn't and was anonymous for most of the game. Liverpool always had a great team spirit and for this neutral looking at them that team spirit is lacking.

They have conceded 12 goals in 4 games against Arsena and I havel picked up the following stats from 365

Liverpool's record against Man Utd, Chelsea & Arsenal in the league since Benitez took over

P15 W2 D1 L12

In all competitions

P23 W4 D4 L15



Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: Hound on January 10, 2007, 10:50:17 AM
For facks sake it was only the league cup.

The team picked was the right team - you have to give lads a chance, and this is the competition to do it in. It was easily the strongest side he put out this year in the league cup.

The actually played quite well for the first 25 minutes or so. Dominated possession, and in the 10 minutes prior to Arsenal's opener they had started to create chances. Arsenal scored on the break with literally their first attack. Immediately after the goal Andy Gray mentioned 4 Arsenal players who had not touched the ball prior to the goal - which tells a story of how the game was going up to then.

The goal gave Arsenal confidence and they then started to play and Liverpool went into their shell a bit. As the game went into injury time it was 1-2, not an altogether unfair reflection but then came the most critical few minutes of the game. First a Dudek mistake from a corner leads to the ball ricocheting into the net off Song's arm (a pure fluke), then the 4th goal should have been disallowed as it was clearly offside.

That was game over and there was little to be done.

The second half was 2-2, which reflected Liverpool huffing and puffing and occassionally having some success, but with Arsenal sitting back and being very dangerous on the counter. Aluminia made a couple of great saves and Arsenal missed a penalty - it was one of those games that could have been any score. But it was only league cup.

It was disappointing for Liverpool that none of the second string who played took their opportunity to state a case for first team selection. And very disappointing to see Gonzalez and Garcia stretchered off which could well mean long spells out. And there will be some others who wont get next nor near a Liverpool first team jersey for the rest of the season.
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: full back on January 10, 2007, 10:52:17 AM
Only the League Cup!!!
The League Cup is, sorry, was the only chance of a trophy this season for Rafa's army
Bring on Barcelona :D :D
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: McGuyver on January 10, 2007, 10:56:45 AM
Is it really goalkeepers Liverpool need to be signing?
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: cavan4ever on January 10, 2007, 10:59:49 AM
Did u not c the game last nite?
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: supersarsfields on January 10, 2007, 11:12:49 AM
I dont understand this interest in buying young keepers just to farm them out. We've got Carson who is a good keeper, we had Kirtland. We need one good solid keeper(Reina) and one other who would be happy playing second fiddle. Not a young kid who is going to want to be playing as many games as possible. And someone with more talent than Dudek!!
Like BCB i'm not going to go too over the top on last nite's result. We need to start plugging away in the League and try and get a bit of confidence back before we meet some of the bigger teams. And as for anything in the Champions League past this stage, that would be a bonus.
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: SuperDooperCooper on January 10, 2007, 11:28:12 AM
A bad few days for a Liverpool fan for sure. Even worse when you consider my best friend is an Arsenal fan.
Don't care about last night really, we knew Dudek was not great, Paletta was very, very poor as was our hero Stevie G.
I'd prefer to finish 3rd in the league than win the worthless cup, can anyone name the last 5 winners....
Remember we lost to Crystal Palace last year.
Made a bet at 1-5 that Liverpool will finish above Arsenal in the league and I'm confident I will collect.
Disappointed about the FA Cup exit but Reyna would have saved two of the goals.
The worse news was the stories that DIC may not plough in the cash we were expecting into the club.
The positive news is that Momo is due back on the 3rd of February for the Everton game and Stevie G can go back on the right wing and forget about covering the defence.
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: An Fear Rua on January 10, 2007, 11:32:14 AM
Scousers will beat the Russians in a few weeks and all will be well again........
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: forkinknife on January 10, 2007, 11:56:02 AM
I don't have faith in Benitez whatsoever. It may turn out the the CL victory was his highlight, but also the catalyst for more seasons playing catch-up. He has never made us remotely anything near challengers for the title. The FA Cup I suppose was some consolation last year but doing well in cups was the perserve of Middlesbrough and Leicester at one stage. We are Liverpool. Utd, Chelse and Arsenal to a lesser extent are getting richer in terms of players willing to believe they can be the best. Bellamy is a liability. Crouch is not a title-winner. Kuyt is unproven. Garcia and Alonso are adequate at best. We need class buys, no more obscure purchases.
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: Fr Ted on January 10, 2007, 11:56:19 AM
2 bad defeats against Arsenal, 1st in the FA Cup, ok it wasn't the best performance of the season but certainly not the worst either, Arsenal had 3 shots on goal & scored all 3, last night Arsenal had 7 i think and scored 6.

For me jerzey looks like a keeper well short of match practise and confidence, always will be remembered fondly by all reds fans for his role in Istanbul but for me it's time to show him the door along with Crouch, Aurellio, Warnock, Gonzalez, Zenden and Kewell, none of which are good enough for a club like Liverpool

I'm still firmly behind Rafa in what he is trying to do at the club, with a limited budget for players, he has to go for possibly 2nd & 3rd choice transfer targets, this postion will not change unless there is an influx of cash into the club

For all those calling for Rafa's head, what manager available would be better, Look at mourino, has a limitless amount of money available, but at the minute he appears to be struggling
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: forkinknife on January 10, 2007, 11:59:24 AM
Look at mourino, has a limitless amount of money available, but at the minute he appears to be struggling

Media nonsense. He's 2nd in the league. Still in both cups. Topped European group. When was the last time they lost? Don't kid yourself.
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: GalwayBayBoy on January 10, 2007, 12:44:31 PM
Bad night last night although Im not too bothered about the Carling Cup. Getting a CL place is far more important in order to keep in touch with the top teams. At least we're still ahead of Arsenal in the league and it wouldn't surprise me if we were still ahead of them at the end of the season. Think we have to give Rafa an oppertunity to spend some of the investment money in the Summer.

On the two games with Arsenal it just showed that our squad isn't deep enough. Dudek and Fowler are finished. Our local youngsters aren't up to the standard of all the foreign youngsters Arsenal poach from clubs unfortunately. Reina I feel would have saved at least 5 of the 9 goals we conceded over the two games. That's how bad Jerzy was. Virtually anything Arsenal got on target ended up in the net.

Rafa is going to have to get too grips with playing the big teams though. Even Houllier managed regular wins against the likes of Man U and Arsenal. It seems it's beyond Rafa at the moment.

Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: SuperSub on January 10, 2007, 12:56:28 PM
Have Liverpool any chance against Barca? If the crowd get behind them like at the Chelsea semi final maybe?
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: Rossie11 on January 10, 2007, 01:06:17 PM
After the past few days I fear for Pool V barca.
Gunners are nearest thing to Barca the premiership have as regards pace/passing/movement
Gunners have now smashed in 12 in 3 games against Pool.

If they defend like that against Eto'o it will be a massacre and will be over after 1st leg..
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: J70 on January 10, 2007, 01:29:16 PM
After the past few days I fear for Pool V barca.
Gunners are nearest thing to Barca the premiership have as regards pace/passing/movement
Gunners have now smashed in 12 in 3 games against Pool.

If they defend like that against Eto'o it will be a massacre and will be over after 1st leg..

I was thinking the same myself. If Liverpool go a goal or two behind, it will be a massacre. The only chance they have is to grind out a 0-0 in the Nou Camp and produce something like they did against Juventus two years ago at Anfield (Barca are quite a bit ahead of Juve though) and then try to close it out.
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: bingobus on January 10, 2007, 01:36:46 PM
It will be a hell of an ask to beat Barca but they haven't been as fluent as lats year. Can blow a team away for 60 mins and then sleep for half an hour. There midfeild and back four can get attached and that can be their undoing.

Rafa and his Spanish knowledge should give some (once he doesn't decide to rest his players for pre-season  ;)

Would go with 4 -5 -1 away with Momo back in middle with Alonso and Gerrard. Bellamy up front to use his pace. With Pennat and Zenden (all thats left) on teh right. Tight disciplined show with ball retention the key. (Carra Agger Riise and Finnan at back with Dudek in Liverpool and Pepe in goals).

Nick a 2-1 in Anfield and roll on the quarters.
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: brokencrossbar1 on January 10, 2007, 01:42:03 PM
If that wee shit Garcia was fit I would play him insteand of Ballsup Bolo.  Also I think for the away tie Kuyt would be the one to start on his own as he is very hard working and smarter than Bellamy.  When he tires put Bellamy on to run behind a tiring defence and matbe nick a goal.
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: Gabriel_Hurl on January 10, 2007, 01:47:36 PM
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If that wee shit Garcia was fit I would play him insteand of Ballsup Bolo.

there ya go again - BC - criticising Garcia - what happened the last time you did that? Went out and scored 2 goals the next game.

Roll on Watford on Saturday
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: Mayo4Sam on January 10, 2007, 01:48:15 PM
United fans have short memories, 10 years ago they lost to southampton 6-3 and still won the league, losing a carling cup match isn't the end of the world, 3 weeks ago we were flying!
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: bingobus on January 10, 2007, 01:48:37 PM
I'd play Zenden as he not loss the ball as often as Garcia dn would offer more protection. Both players are ex-Barca so should be keen to play, if fit.

I do think he'll play Kuyt but think Bellamy is more pacier and able to play on his own better. Kuyt would work his socks off but I'd like to see Bellamy exploit Puyols and Marquez lack of pace.
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: full back on January 10, 2007, 01:53:14 PM
Doubt if Garcia will be scoring 2 on Saturday-was he stretchered off last night?
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Post by: Gabriel_Hurl on January 10, 2007, 01:54:52 PM
that was Speedy Gonzalez
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Post by: AZOffaly on January 10, 2007, 01:57:25 PM
Garcia was stretchered off as well Gab.
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Post by: Gabriel_Hurl on January 10, 2007, 01:58:19 PM
Ah Christ - i turned it off after 60 mins
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: AZOffaly on January 10, 2007, 01:59:28 PM
I would have just rolled him off against the advertising hoardings out of the way.
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Post by: heganboy on January 10, 2007, 02:14:27 PM
I would hardly say Fowler is finished- he still looks like the only one of our strikers that can consistently put the ball in the back of the net. I'd love to see what he could do playing off Bellamy/ Kuyt when Momo is back controlling the middle and Stevie G can keep hitting his Hollywood balls into the strikers.
Consistently Liverpool flap with Dudek at the back- the keepers job isn't just to save the shots, he has to keep the back line organised, Dudek is failing miserably in that role. Interesting to see whether the kid will get a couple of games at the expense of the 2 more senior keepers. (did anyone else think Sander Westerweld got a rough deal) The first choice back 4 I would have with Finnan, Carra, Hypia and Riise are generally composed, and a presence behind them willl provide stability. Momo in the middle will allow Alonso to contribute more and see if Kewell can actually play.
Ah, but what would I know
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: SlimShady on January 10, 2007, 02:22:34 PM
Dirk Kuyt's career has gone downhill since The Goonies, its understandably hard to follow up such a glittering performance.
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: Gabriel_Hurl on January 10, 2007, 02:28:10 PM
Uninteresting trivia - the guy who played Sloth in the Goonies won 2 Superbowl rings with the LA Raiders
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: GalwayBayBoy on January 10, 2007, 02:29:15 PM
Interesting interview with Benitez in the Echo today.

It's time for us to get realJan 10 2007




Exclusive By Chris Bascombe, Liverpool Echo


RAFA Benitez says Liverpool must learn the lessons of last night's Carling Cup humiliation, as he urged the club to match Arsenal's ambition in the recruitment of young talent.

Benitez, who apologised for the 6-3 defeat, is deeply frustrated his efforts to create an equally powerful reserve line-up has been thwarted by lack of funds.

But the boss insists he was right to stand by his team selection at Anfield, and argued the gulf in class was a result of Arsenal's ten years of careful planning and recruitment.

He says Liverpool's prospective new owners must take note if they want the club to match the Gunners.

"The first thing we must do is say sorry to our supporters. They were magnificent and deserved better," said Benitez.


"Secondly, although we made mistakes in the game my players worked hard and I must recognise this.


"But when you analyse the situation, the conclusion which worries me is Arsenal could pick nine reserves and score six goals at Anfield. We had seven players of the first team and could not win.


"There is a lesson in this for the whole of our club. If you want to compete at the top level, you must be able to spend a lot of money not only on your first team, but on the young players and reserves.


"Arsenal spent £4m on Diaby, £4m on Denilson, £8m on Walcott and Baptista is a £22m player.


"They have been working for ten years to build a strong squad, and we have been working for two years. My scout department has done an excellent job, but sometimes we go too slow as a club to make signings we need, and when we do there is not a lot of money.


"Today, for example, we are signing a young Italian keeper on loan with an option for later. We've also been working for many weeks to sign the young Scottish player James McCarthy.


"These are the deals we are doing because we want to build a squad of similar quality in the future, but without spending big money it's difficult.


"The money we sign is for the first team, and when you look at the quality of Reina, Sissoko, Alonso, Bellamy and Crouch it's clear all are worth more now than when we bought them."


Benitez has come under fire for his team selection in the wake of the latest cup exit, but he's standing firm.


"I used Momo Sissoko in the Carling Cup against Birmingham and lost him for four months," he said.


"Last night we believe we've lost Luis for the rest of the season and Gonzalez and Warnock were injured. Steven Gerrard has a dead leg and Xabi Alonso a tight hamstring.


"What is more important? The Premiership, the Champions League or the Carling Cup?


"If Arsenal can play nine reserves and score six at Anfield, people should be asking why is this. It's not because of one game, it's because of many reasons. I picked a team with seven players from the first team last night.


Do people expect me to play Finnan every week? He has had to play in every fixture this season. The players I used were good players."
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: bingobus on January 10, 2007, 02:33:54 PM
Thats a very defensive and aggressive interview by Rafa. Very unlike him.

But fair play to him for explaining his position. He's still the man for me.
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: Gabriel_Hurl on January 10, 2007, 03:05:25 PM
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Sampdoria goalkeeper Daniele Padelli will join Liverpool on a six-month loan deal, his agent has confirmed.

The Italy Under-21 goalkeeper will undergo a medical on Wednesday afternoon with the Reds before starting training under Rafael Benitez.

Agent Silvano Martina said: "Padelli will travel to Liverpool this afternoon.

"The clubs have agreed on a six-month loan deal and the player is excited at the prospect of playing for Liverpool."

Padelli, one of Italy's most promising goalkeepers, joined Serie B side Crotone on loan from Sampdoria in the summer with the aim of getting some first-team football under his belt.

However, the 21-year-old has merely served as an understudy to Salvatore Soviero, playing in just one league game.

Samp have cancelled the loan deal with Crotone which was set to run until June, and have accepted the offer made by the Premiership club.
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: Gabriel_Hurl on January 10, 2007, 04:03:12 PM
Garcia gone for the season  >:( >:( >:(

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Liverpool have been dealt a serious injury blow with the news that Luis Garcia won't play again this season.
The Spaniard was stretchered off during last night's Carling Cup clash with Arsenal and a scan has today confirmed he has ruptured the anterior cruciate ligament in his right knee.

Liverpool Head of Press Ian Cotton said: "Unfortunately we expect to be without Luis for six months."

Chilean midfielder Mark Gonzalez, meanwhile, faces up to three weeks on the sidelines with the shin injury he sustained against the Gunners.

An x-ray after last night's game immediately confirmed there was no fracture, but a scan today has revealed severe soft tissue bruising and bruising to the bone of his right shin.
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: laoislad on January 10, 2007, 04:11:46 PM
yeah  cruciate ligament injury
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: laoislad on January 12, 2007, 11:27:10 PM
Have to be a good win tomorrow esp after what happenend mid week
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Post by: laoislad on January 13, 2007, 01:45:09 PM
Going well so..
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Post by: Cloc Mor on January 13, 2007, 02:09:30 PM
Not before time - good to get the Arsenal hangover(s) behind us.
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: Gabriel_Hurl on January 13, 2007, 04:42:38 PM
Just what the lads needed after the last 2 games

10 clean sheets in last 11 EPL games - nice

Big one next weekend now - 6-pointer
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: supersarsfields on January 16, 2007, 10:00:38 AM
From the BBC


Liverpool are on the verge of agreeing a £156m takeover by the investment arm of Dubai's government.

The club's board of directors will discuss the final proposals by the Dubai International Capital Group at a meeting on Tuesday.

The deal, which will net chairman David Moores more than £75m, is close to bring completed, but is not expected to be finalised until next week.

Moores, who owns 51.6% of shares, made an initial investment of around £10m.


Interview: Liverpool chief executive Rick Parry

DIC has almost completed its due diligence, but Liverpool are keen to get the deal done in time to allow them to bring in some new players before the closure of the transfer window on 31 January.

It is unclear what level of investment in players will be made available to manager Rafael Benitez should the deal go through.

On Sunday, Liverpool chief executive Rick Parry said the deal was "not a quick fix, a rich man's play-thing. It's a long-term model for success, based around the new stadium".

"This will take us to the next level," he added.

So it might be done in time to get a couple of new players? Any ideas who might be drafted in?
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: Gabriel_Hurl on January 16, 2007, 01:41:16 PM
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/football/teams/l/liverpool/6267319.stm

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Liverpool have sent a letter to Fifa asking for special dispensation to sign Argentine midfielder Javier Mascherano on loan from West Ham.

Under Fifa regulations, Mascherano, 22, cannot play for another club this season because he has already represented Corinthians and West Ham.

But Liverpool hope Mascherano will be allowed to complete a move to Anfield.

A Fifa spokesman told BBC Sport that the "player status department" was currently considering the matter.

Mascherano arrived at Upton Park with international team-mate Carlos Tevez on 31 August.

But he has played only six minutes since the defeat at Tottenham on 22 October and is desperate to leave the club

But under the world governing body's rules, a footballer cannot play competitively for more than two different clubs between 1 July and 30 June the following year.
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: magpie seanie on January 16, 2007, 05:14:20 PM
No doubt all Liverpools friends in the FA will push FIFA to allow this to happen.
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: AZOffaly on January 16, 2007, 05:17:27 PM
Yep.

And we'll get Barcelona kicked out of the CL as well. It;s our only hope.

Why would  LFC want Maschereno though? When Sissoko comes back there'll be a plethora of midfielders again.
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: magpie seanie on January 16, 2007, 09:43:11 PM
Not central midfielders. When Sissoko comes back that's only two. Mascherano would be a good addition. Cannot understand why it hasn't worked out for him (or Tevez) at West Ham.
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: AZOffaly on January 16, 2007, 11:04:21 PM
Well Sissoko, Alonso and Gerrard are going to be battling for 2 positions as it is. Another one will add to the confusion there. And then Stevie G can do a big sulk if he's on the right to accomodate Mascherano.

No need to say Steven Gerrard is not a central midfielder. We've heard it before.
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: corn02 on January 16, 2007, 11:06:05 PM
Exactly no need for him, Stevie G will huff if he is played on right. No need in my opinion.
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: Carmen Stateside on January 17, 2007, 12:01:34 AM
Rafa just seems to be going Argie crazy at the minute!!!  ???
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: J70 on January 17, 2007, 01:50:39 AM
Can't see how Liverpool have a case here. Rules are rules. If Mascherano hadn't made any first team appearances for West Ham, it might be different.
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: Hound on January 17, 2007, 09:26:00 AM
Just because Stevie would go into a sulk is no good reason not to buy another CM and move SG onto the right. And the real benefit of Mascherano is it should mean no more Zenden in a red jersey.

In any event there are plenty of signs that Benitez is gradually moving towards a 3-5-2 (or 5-3-2) system, which would mean Gerrard being the most offensive of three central midfielders.
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: AZOffaly on January 17, 2007, 09:29:44 AM
I think that is the case exactly Hound. I see Liverpool playing 3-5-2 next season. At the moment the team would be along the lines of Reina, Finnan, Carra, Agger, Pennant, Sissoko, Alonso, Gerrard, Riise, Kuyt, Bellamy.

I wouldn't mind that to be honest.
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: brokencrossbar1 on January 17, 2007, 10:24:21 AM
I have been saying that for some time that it is the way to go.  Another top class CB, pushing Finnan out to the right and then they would be a serious proposition for the League. 

I could just be mischievous here but does anyone see the possibility that Rafa is laying the ground for Gerrard heading to Barca/Madrid in the summer.  I could be wrong but I think he wants to have full control over proceedings and if Stevie is huffing everytime he has to play out right then Rafa is being undermined.  Mascerhano on loan, with a view to a permanent.  He will not cost as much as Gerrard could be solf for.  Pick up £20m plus in the summer, with the war chest from Dubai this would give them a lot of money to work with for next season.
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: Over the Bar on January 17, 2007, 10:37:06 AM
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Pick up £20m plus in the summer, with the war chest from Dubai this would give them a lot of money to work with for next season.

No better man to waste it than Rafa! ;)
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: Guillem2 on January 20, 2007, 01:00:39 PM
Cheski are all over the place at the back! It should 3-0.
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: aontroim on January 20, 2007, 02:46:47 PM
Great Result - now for the scum to beat the scum tomorrow and we'll be comfortable in 3rd and chasing 2nd spot.
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: An Fear Rua on January 20, 2007, 02:54:23 PM
Scousers will beat the Russians in a few weeks and all will be well again........

Ahem!
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: J70 on January 20, 2007, 03:02:04 PM
Nice to finally take some points off Chelsea and it shows the hysteria after the Arsenal games up for what it was. 

Chelsea look to have some big problems though. If United beat Arsenal tomorrow, I'd say its over. I can't see them letting a nine point lead slip over 14 games given the form they're in.
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: GalwayBayBoy on January 20, 2007, 04:33:26 PM
Good result and performance. Granted Chelsea were missing a few players but we didn't deserve to lose to them at Stamford Bridge earlier in the season so swings and roundabouts. Thought Bellamy should have come on a bit earlier.

Only 5 points behind Chelsea now. Hopefully Arsenal pick up the 3 points tomorrow.
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: saffron on January 20, 2007, 04:53:01 PM
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Hopefully Arsenal pick up the 3 points tomorrow

Definitely united are getting very close on the league titles front
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: The Real Laoislad on January 20, 2007, 07:38:33 PM
Great result today didn't see it live was working but looking forward to match of the day i hear Riise had a cracker hit the cross bar
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: J70 on January 20, 2007, 08:11:41 PM
Great result today didn't see it live was working but looking forward to match of the day i hear Riise had a cracker hit the cross bar

He was very unlucky. Hit it from about 40 yards!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bifdp0mRsww
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: magpie seanie on January 20, 2007, 09:35:33 PM
Thank you Liverpool!
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: Norf Tyrone on January 20, 2007, 10:14:00 PM
Fair play to Liverpool today, as they thoroughly deserved their win. Was fairly confident going into this one until Cavlaho wasn't playing, and then I'd of took a draw with bells on.
The absence of 2 centre-halfs certainly cost the Blues. The first goal came from Fererria ball watching and letting Kuyt steal in behind, and the second was probably attributable to Robben being injured. It was critical that Cole and Geremi stopped delivery into the box today so as to protect the centre. However when the cross was headed clear to Pennant, the plan would've been for Robben, and Kalou to be backing up.

Still thems the breaks.

Thought the second half we showed better, but lacked leaders, and some class in the top hlaf of the pitch. Wright-Phillips did ok today, and with a wee bit of luck two of his crosses could've worked there way into the goal. Lampard was too quiet, and lacked the authority of JT to grab the game. Ballack...well what does he actually add?

I think if Man U win tomorrow it's not all over but some of the crowd will be on the pitch. However if points are dropped I still believe. The next 3 PL games are winable, and if we get JT back before, or during that run it can still be done...........

Wycombe (H) CC
Forest (H) FA
Blackburn (H) PL
Charlton (A) PL
Boro (H) PL

Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: The Real Laoislad on January 20, 2007, 11:58:51 PM
just watched match of the day..two great goals shopuld have been 4 or 5...
Oh yeah was that Djimi Traore playing for Portsmouth? when did that happen
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: deiseach on January 21, 2007, 05:59:13 PM
Get in there, Arsenal! Man U have to come to Anfield, play Chelsea at the Bridge . . . we can still do this!!


Title: On a sadder note...
Post by: deiseach on January 21, 2007, 08:41:48 PM
Dr Fun has passed on to that great Spion Kop in the sky. Truly one of sport's great nutter fans, he will be missed

RIP Dr Fun (http://forum.raotl.co.uk/viewtopic.php?t=44205&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=0)
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: Carmen Stateside on January 22, 2007, 04:44:10 PM
The following is from the Liverpool Echo!  ;D ;D

WELCOME to the real world Jose. The world where football managers have to manage with economic restraint. A world where injuries and suspensions have to be overcome through shrewdness and acumen, not the wave of a chequebook. 
 
And a world where the loss of three players from one department of the team has to be stoically endured.
 
So while many will focus on the poverty of Chelsea’s defending at Anfield on Saturday – and for 20 minutes it was Dog and Duck United stuff – perhaps some will now feel inclined to celebrate Rafael Benitez’s recent enforced reshuffles.
 
Three central defenders missing on the same afternoon? Get on with it. Like the Liverpool coach has done for the past two months shorn of the services of a trio of influential midfielders.
 
Aside from Steven Gerrard, Momo Sissoko is the most influential member of Liverpool’s midfield. He has been missing since November 8.
 
Liverpool’s record in that timescale? Won 10, drawn two and lost two in the Premiership.
 
Bolo Zenden and Luis Garcia are also important options in that same department. Both have been missing for large chunks of the season – and in case anybody has forgotten, Harry Kewell is also a member of Liverpool’s midfield.
 
The Reds even lost Xabi Alonso for 10 minutes on Saturday while he had a mouth injury patched up.
 
Their overwhelming superiority over the champions – especially in midfield – didn’t dip for even a second.
 
In the engine room of the match, Liverpool totally dominated Lampard and an expensive German show pony.
 
Ballack? Change a vowel and you’re not far away from an accurate description of his performance. One decent crossfield pass was the sum total of Michael Ballack’s afternoon contribution – while he was even nutmegged by a team-mate during a comedy free-kick routine which seemed to epitomise Chelsea’s troubles.
 
Mourinho afterwards tried to explain away his side’s slump by labelling Liverpool route one. Hmm. Potenciometro, chaleira and preto, Jose. That’s Portuguese for pot, kettle and black.
 
And while Chelsea’s defensive deficiencies might explain Liverpool’s approach, they don’t adequately explain why Pepe Reina was not called upon to make a single meaningful save all afternoon.
 
That’s because Liverpool were totally and utterly in command.
 
And while it’s still fanciful to talk of a title charge, with reinforcements on the horizon the hitherto written off Champions League challenge may not be the lost cause some outside of Anfield appear to think – and Chelsea are now visible on the Premiership horizon.
 
Momo Sissoko is back in training now and itching to launch himself into a tackle.
 
But his absence seems to have dispelled one Anfield myth for the time being at least – that Gerrard and Alonso can’t play together. Hands up for occasionally airing that theory...
 
“I’ve read that myself, and I don’t think it’s true,” said Liverpool’s skipper in a programme interview. “I think that good players play with each other whoever they are and I enjoy playing with Xabi. I think if you look at the results we’ve had playing together we’ve done well. I think we complement each other.”
 
Perhaps. Or maybe Gerrard’s more thoughtful approach to his midfield responsibilities, following discussions with his manager, has resulted in a better balanced partnership.
 
On Saturday Gerrard showed commendable restraint. With Sissoko on board, he can rampage forward and make your first goalscorer bet the equivalent of buying money.
 
Alongside Alonso he has to sit deeper, and time his bursts more cannily, and Liverpool’s results since Sissoko’s shoulder popped suggest he has taken that lesson on board spectacularly.
 
Six goals in the same period underline the argument.
 
On Saturday, with Liverpool playing long to make full use of the unsung Peter Crouch and the excellent Dirk Kuyt, he wasn’t required to burst forward as often. Long, short or anything in-between, Chelsea were always second best. So what of the Chelsea manager?
 
“Bye, bye Mourinho!” The Kop provocatively roared, along with a mischievous airing of “Rafa’s The Special One!”
 
It will undoubtedly be a sad day for the Premiership when the little Portuguese takes his talents and personality to new shores.
 
But despite his charisma, despite the colour he has brought into English football and despite his undoubted ability, it is impossible to feel sympathy for him.
 
You can’t feel sorry for a man who regularly slanders opposition players, a manager who waves imaginary yellow cards on the touchline and makes such sweeping accusations he eventually has to issue an apology, who has managed without economic restraint and a man who has even impugned the integrity of the Royal Berkshire Ambulance Service.
 
None of the above can be levelled at Rafael Benitez. Perhaps observers outside Merseyside may now start to appreciate him a little more.
 
 
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: Carmen Stateside on January 22, 2007, 04:50:44 PM
Here is another article from it! :)

JOSE Mourinho wanted so much post match sympathy at Anfield, some of us presumed the match sponsors were Kleenex. 
 
Every excuse he desired was willingly presented as he assessed where it went wrong for his side and right for Liverpool.
 
As 'The Special One' admitted he's not so special after all and complained about a lack of centre-backs, it was tempting to ask if this was because of injuries in defence, or whether he was missing Robert Huth's impact up front in the last 10 minutes.
 
Hearing Mourinho complain about lack of support in the transfer market is a bit like hearing a billionaire moan about paying tax.
 
Liverpool finally beat one of their main rivals in the Premiership on Saturday, only for Rafa Benitez to be told this was not the 'real Chelsea'.
 
Quite how defensive problems prevented Lampard, Ballack, Wright-Phillips and Drogba making any contribution – and turned one of the best strikers in the world into a £30m dud – is a matter for debate, but no doubt there’s a good reason.
 
Strangely, sympathy was less forthcoming two years ago when Benitez regularly headed into fixtures against the Londoners, Arsenal and Manchester United with striking options of Neil Mellor or Florent Sinama-Pongolle, or used Steven Gerrard as a makeshift frontman.
 
These facts are overlooked when Benitez's overall record against the 'big three' is presented. As he said before kick-off, history only records results, not circumstances which led to them.
 
In those days, it wasn't an Anfield injury crisis, or lack of strikers which was Benitez's problem. When the Reds failed in those fixtures, it was the real Liverpool who had shown up. One rule for Benitez and another for Mourinho? You bet.
 
Not that Liverpool will particularly care about the inquest at Stamford Bridge. That Benitez still has more important Premiership considerations made this win so significant.
 
Finishing above Chelsea remains a dream as much as an aspiration, but Liverpool have achieved their first goal of the season six months in. They have shown an eternally disbelieving public they can challenge the country's elite.
 
It remains to be seen if slicing the gap between third and second has any impact on an unlikely title tilt, and the caution from manager, skipper and a succession of Liverpool stars was wise.
 
Too often a significant Anfield victory has ballooned in its self importance with fans as guilty as journalists and players of absorbing the hype.
 
There are times when the moment of victory itself is satisfying enough, without attaching greater worth which would be undermined by a poor performance at Upton Park in 10 days.
 
This campaign began with the pursuit of Chelsea the prime objective. Just three months ago, that looked beyond the club. Not now. But even as the Reds came to terms with the enormity of a win which safeguarded their wildly optimistic league hopes, there was an acknowledgement of the scale of the task remaining.
 
The days when beating Roman Abramovich's Chelsea signified the end of Benitez's journey to restore Liverpool's place at the top of the English game have already passed.
 
Now it's just another tick on the things to do list.
 
Signs of decline at Stamford Bridge mean even if the Reds are able to shrug the Londoners aside, their ultimate target is still way in the distance.
 
Come May, one hopes this will be perceived as the victory which gave Liverpool the momentum and confidence to believe anything was possible.
 
Equally, like so many other occasions since 1990, it may be looked upon as a triumph which underlined the sense of 'if only', as a team capable of so much more still finds itself too far behind the likely champions.
 
It's impossible not to stare at the table today without lamenting wasted opportunities against Sheffield United, Middlesbrough and Blackburn, against whom a series of wins would have magnified the value of this success. Instead, Liverpool must use this win as a platform for much more.
 
Chelsea, it must be acknowledged, were there for taking.
 
But weakened or not, Liverpool had to take advantage and show their class. They did so with ease, enjoying a win every bit as comfortable as every other home triumph this season.
 
Benitez kicked Mourinho where it hurts, pairing Crouch and Kuyt and urging his players to go direct against the inexperienced and nervous centre-backs. Once Kuyt put the Reds ahead with an elegant finish on four minutes, it seemed more a case of how many Liverpool would get.
 
That they only added one was as improbable as the second itself. Jermaine Pennant's steady rather than spectacular improvement has been noted and he confirmed this with a strike which was out of the ordinary.
 
Although Chelsea enjoyed plenty of possession once they settled, Pepe Reina was untroubled, while chances flowed at the Kop end.
 
Crouch could curse his lack of aerial power again. He would be on 30 goals by now if he could add the phrase 'bullet header' to his portfolio.
 
Riise's thunderbolt and a late Kuyt volley could have piled on the humiliation for the Londoners.
 
The energy and commitment across the park made a comeback impossible. Steven Gerrard gave arguably his best display against Chelsea since you know what, while Jamie Carragher reduced the formidable Drogba to the role of ball boy.
 
The full-time inquisition regarding the identity of the impressive left back was also notice of the impact of Fabio Aurelio, although he tired late on.
 
Liverpool had far more to lose than their opponents on Saturday, but the circumstances of the season means the gain won't be measured until later.
 
What is beyond dispute is the buoyancy at Anfield today, and the firm belief that not only can Chelsea be caught, but that Manchester United's lead can also be reduced.
 
Unlike previous false dawns, this is balanced with caution as the perils of predicting too much often prove counter-productive.
 
The broadcasters love spending the week emphasising how the destiny of the Premiership can be decided by such fixtures, but when the dust settles, a win still represents a mere three points, no matter how much sweeter the victory.
 
This was a very good weekend for Liverpool, but everyone at Anfield recognises there's much more to be done to transform it into a pivotal one.
 
 
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: The Real Laoislad on January 22, 2007, 04:52:00 PM
Steven Warnock gone to Blackburn Rovers..I liked him thought he was a right good player
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: Norf Tyrone on January 22, 2007, 06:21:37 PM
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Signs of decline at Stamford Bridge mean even if the Reds are able to shrug the Londoners aside, their ultimate target is still way in the distance.

It think it says more about Chelsea that a decline is when we are still challanging for 4 trophies!

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Mourinho afterwards tried to explain away his side’s slump by labelling Liverpool route one. Hmm. Potenciometro, chaleira and preto, Jose. That’s Portuguese for pot, kettle and black.

Completly out of context. He stated that Rafa wasn't stupid, that he knew Chelsea's weakness in the air at the back and exploited it.

Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: deiseach on January 22, 2007, 06:54:40 PM
Ballack? Change a vowel and you’re not far away from an accurate description of his performance. One decent crossfield pass was the sum total of Michael Ballack’s afternoon contribution – while he was even nutmegged by a team-mate during a comedy free-kick routine which seemed to epitomise Chelsea’s troubles.

Ho ho, very satirical. David Prentice, you are a complete numpty
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: J70 on January 22, 2007, 08:41:33 PM
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Signs of decline at Stamford Bridge mean even if the Reds are able to shrug the Londoners aside, their ultimate target is still way in the distance.

It think it says more about Chelsea that a decline is when we are still challanging for 4 trophies!

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Mourinho afterwards tried to explain away his side’s slump by labelling Liverpool route one. Hmm. Potenciometro, chaleira and preto, Jose. That’s Portuguese for pot, kettle and black.

Completly out of context. He stated that Rafa wasn't stupid, that he knew Chelsea's weakness in the air at the back and exploited it.


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They were all predicting last week after the Arsenal games that Liverpool's progress had reached an impasse under Rafa. Now they're probably blowing Mourinho's problems up out of all proportion. One or two players back, a good win or two, and this shite will blow over for Chelsea as well.
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: GalwayBayBoy on January 23, 2007, 11:10:48 PM
Nice article on Carra on the official site.

CHRIS BASCOMBE ON JAMIE CARRAGHER

You don't half write some crap you," Jamie Carragher said the first time he saw me at Melwood.

"Any chance of getting the man of the match right one day?"

Actually, he didn't use the word crap. It was much scouser.

It was also said in that typical Carragher way. Sharp enough to sound funny, but blunt enough to make a point. You'll have heard this tone many times since.

It's the one that confronted Geoff Shreeves of Sky, who was asked 'who's bigger than Liverpool?' after quizzing Carragher if Steven Gerrard could leave for a 'superior' club.

And the one that cut off the poor Paxman imitator in his prime who urged Carragher to describe the ethos of Liverpool.

"What are yer goin on about mate?" was the appropriate response.

Reporters, especially the most pompous, regularly come a cropper and provoke the same humorously contemptible comeback whenever they try to trip him up.

Fortunately, those of us with more experience have learned the hard way never to ask him questions which are dumb, patronising or both. And pity the individuals who dare attempt to catch Carragher with the use of statistics. He'll pounce as swiftly as he does when making last ditch tackles, with his encyclopaedic knowledge of Liverpool's history ensuring even the match day programme writers need to be on their guard when compiling career details.

Carragher's style of play echoes how he comes across to the media off the park.

Honest, dedicated, obsessive about football and always ready to go in where it hurts when he senses his club, team mates, city or family is getting a kicking.

How often do you hear him talking up players he feels are being unfairly treated? Probably because he’s been there himself. After all, it took him the best part of five years to stop those letters to the ECHO saying Liverpool would never win the big prizes with players like him in defence.

The Kop sings about a team of Carraghers now, but it wasn't so long ago the one they've got wasn't appreciated.

If Liverpool take a beating, you won't see him quickening his step or accepting imaginary mobile phone calls to swerve reporters. If Liverpool win, he’s most likely to slip away unseen while others take the credit. Such modesty isn't a calculated act.

Supporters regular call the ECHO with tales of Carragher's charitable donations, a contribution recently recognised when he was given the freedom of Sefton.

In 2002 he agreed to write a World Cup column on the condition the payments were sent to Alder Hey Children's Hospital, but didn't want that publicised (a few years later I decided it was information which deserved to be shared).

Proceeds from his forthcoming testimonial will go to charity.

Most players go mad if they're getting battered in a newspaper. Carragher gets more annoyed if he's made to sound like he's a world beater.

To this day, touch wood, the only time he's been angry with the ECHO was in 1999 when he was needed to play in the 'unfamiliar' role of centre-half because of an injury to Sami Hyypia.

"I'll fill Sami's boots," read the headline. Carragher thought it made him sound big-headed, as if he was putting himself in the same class as Hyypia. Eight years on, it may seem astounding to supporters a world class centre-half like Carragher would take exception to anyone putting him in a bracket he so clearly is. The notion he'd have to fill anyone's shoes is ridiculous. But it was all about the context. Creating an image of him bigging up himself, and more seriously demeaning one of his team mates, was unacceptable to him, and he made it known.

Fortunately, grudges don't last and he's got most reporters sussed. That's not surprising as he and Steven Gerrard are the most requested for interview.

It's a running gag in the reporting industry how when anyone starts on a newspaper, their first call will be to the Melwood Press Office to set up a meeting with Carragher, who has an inability to fail to be interesting and forthright in his opinions. Need a double page spread for your Saturday or Sunday supplement? Get hold of Carra and fill it with those condescending images about Bootle and scally kids made good (check the archives, it's compulsory all 'serious journalists' have to refer to this when writing about Carragher. If it's Gerrard, just replace Bootle with Huyton).

And do you think the race for the title is hotting up? It's nothing compared to the fight to write Carragher's autobiography when he decides to do it.

All the Jimmy Hill Sunday Supplement crew are desperate for the nod, and have been known to end interviews with an appeal to write it for him. He'll keep them all guessing, but his delay putting pen to paper is further evidence of his disinterest in the footballing cult of celebrity. He's got a Premiership medal to win before he divides his career into chapters.

Let's not forget, this is the fella who when asked if he'd sell his wedding photographs to Hello replied: “I'd rather sell them to The Kop Magazine for £1."

Legendary status - and let's not hear anyone say that's going too far - wasn't achieved overnight.

Across 10 years, Carragher has developed as the ultimate player of the people. The Kop loves him because they know he's one of them. He thinks like them, gives his all as if it was is only appearance for the club, and shows the twin ecstasies of joy and grief as and when appropriate.

If he wasn't playing, he'd be watching and travelling with the family entourage which never misses a game. How do we know? Because he did it in 2003 when he was recovering from a broken leg, joining his dad and cousin on the Happy Al's coach to Middlesbrough and shouting at the incompetence of El-Hadji Diouf with everyone else in the away end.
Steven Gerrard has been the heart of the Liverpool at the start of this Millennium. Jamie Carragher is its soul.

Oh, and I nearly forgot. He's also one of the greatest defenders Liverpool has ever had, and has many more years in red still to serve.
But you knew that bit already.
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: derryexile on January 24, 2007, 12:32:37 AM
Great article, the man is a great role model!
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: Gabriel_Hurl on January 24, 2007, 01:47:07 PM
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Liverpool have signed 18-year-old Dutch striker Jordy Brouwer from Ajax.

The player joins goalkeeper Daniele Padelli and defender Emiliano Insua as the new arrivals at Anfield in the transfer window.

"We've made a good signing for the future in Jordy," club chief executive Rick Parry told Liverpool's website.

"He had a youth contract at Ajax, but opted to build his career at Liverpool. We've monitored his progress and look forward to developing his potential."
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: An Fear Rua on January 24, 2007, 01:50:56 PM
Great article, the man is a great role model!

and he donates money to the poor too!!! :o
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: GalwayBayBoy on January 24, 2007, 01:51:13 PM
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Liverpool have signed 18-year-old Dutch striker Jordy Brouwer from Ajax.

The player joins goalkeeper Daniele Padelli and defender Emiliano Insua as the new arrivals at Anfield in the transfer window.

"We've made a good signing for the future in Jordy," club chief executive Rick Parry told Liverpool's website.

"He had a youth contract at Ajax, but opted to build his career at Liverpool. We've monitored his progress and look forward to developing his potential."

Good to see us finally investing in young European talent like Arsenal have been doing for the past 5+ years or so.
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: Rossie11 on January 24, 2007, 02:13:50 PM
Glad to see them going Dutch for young talent.
Feel they are more suited to the English game than a young South American or Spaniard.



Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: AZOffaly on January 24, 2007, 02:18:57 PM
Yeah, like Pierre Van Hojdoink (sp?) and Marco Boogers :D
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: Mayo4Sam on January 24, 2007, 02:27:33 PM
Great article, the man is a great role model!

It actually made me want to barf  :-[
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: Gabriel_Hurl on January 24, 2007, 02:29:38 PM
I wouldn't exactly say they were young talent AZ
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: AZOffaly on January 24, 2007, 03:46:17 PM
I know, but they are Dutch.

I actually agree. I think Dutch and Scandinavians have a more immediate impact in England compared to Italians, Spanish or South Americans, with obvious exceptions of course.
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: Rossie11 on January 24, 2007, 04:09:57 PM
Am sure you have Luis Garcia included in one of your obvious exceptions AZ..  :P
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: gawa316 on January 25, 2007, 03:33:46 PM
CELEBRITY KOP CLUB: DR KARL KENNEDY
Jimmy Rice 25 January 2007 
  Welcome to Celebrity Kop Club, a unique band of Reds who’ve risen to fame with hope in their hearts and a Liver Bird on their chest. The third inductee might come from OZ, but he has more than a little understanding of what it means to be a Red... 

 


Everybody needs good neighbours - so goes the theme tune of the popular Aussie soap. And it seems Anfield could soon be getting one of the best ever.
 
"Eventually I will move to the UK and I think Liverpool may well be the place I end up. It'd be great to be able to take my lad to Anfield," reveals Dr Karl, aka Alan Fletcher.
 
While Neighbours' fans are led to believe Susan is the love of his life, The Doc has in fact been cultivating an affair thousands of miles from Ramsay Street.
 
"I'm in love with Liverpool," he confesses. "I was attracted primarily because it was the home of the Beatles. I also have some distant relatives living on Merseyside, so the Reds were a natural fit for me.
 
"I've been over about five times in the last two years. Perhaps it's the Irish influence in the city, but I find Scousers to be incredibly friendly, open people with a delicious sense of humour."
 
Okay, so he loves our great city, and he's chosen the correct team. But it can't be easy being a Red Down Under, can it?
 
"No," admits the ultimate out-of-towner. "It's very difficult to see games because of the time difference; they're played in the middle of the night.
 
"The SBS television network shows all the football highlights, but I'm planning to get an e-Season Ticket to make things easier.
 
"I take my allegiance to LFC very seriously. I still have an enormous amount to learn about the team, though. My son and I spend a lot of time watching DVDs about the club and its great victories.
 
"My favourite is 100 Years of The Kop. I can only imagine what the atmosphere was like crammed into that stand watching the Reds at their finest."
 
The 49-year-old tries to get to as many games as he can while on tour with his band, Waiting Room. And he likes to reveal his support in another, more vocal fashion.
 
"I started singing You'll Never Walk Alone at gigs as a tribute to the club," he says.
 
"The great thing is that everyone loves to sing along with the song regardless of who their team is.
 
"We were playing the Walkabout in Nottingham on the night of the Champions League final. Minutes after we won I walked on stage and sang it wearing my shirt. The audience went wild."
 
Such is the force of The Doc, he's even managed to get a bunch of Evertonians singing their hearts out to our famous anthem.
 
"After the FA Cup win last year I was performing in Liverpool for the Edge Hill College ball. Again the crowd went berserk for it. Even the Everton fans joined in!"


 

KK is clearly doing his best to spread the Liverpool word, then. So how come YNWA never featured when he appeared on Soapstar Superstar earlier this month?
 
"We had no choice of songs for the show," scoffs The Doc, not hiding his irritation. "Sadly they didn't choose it as part of my repertoire."
 
Coming from OZ, The Doc's passion for the Reds has to compete with an unhealthy interest in cricket and Aussie rules. But when push comes to shove, there's only ever one winner.
 
"The thing is, because Aussie rules matches are high scoring, the crowds have frequent occasions to release their tension," he explains.
 
"The tight nature of the scoreline and speed of British football makes the game so much more exciting and tense.
 
"Football is very popular in Australia because of the big European population and the success of the Socceroos in the World Cup. The game is still dwarfed by Aussie rules but that is changing rapidly.
 
"When my son and I have a kick down at the park and we wear our Liverpool strips, many people stop and profess their support for the club."
 
This is the same strip – with FLETCH embezzled on the back – which he wears on the set of Neighbours, though he admits he's yet to convince any of his co-stars to join him in the Kop.
 
"I don't have any friends who support the Reds but I do have a mate who follows West Ham, and I've had some fun at his expense lately!" he says.
 
Despite a lack of Kopites in his address book, The Doc is friendly with another member of Celebrity Kop Club – as well as a current Liverpool player.
 
He said: "I met Euan Blair in London when he came to see my band at the Walkabout in Shepherd's Bush.
 
"Then I was working in Manchester recently and had the pleasure of meeting Harry Kewell. I had a terrific night with him and his darling wife Sheree."
 
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: Hound on January 25, 2007, 04:06:26 PM
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Liverpool have signed 18-year-old Dutch striker Jordy Brouwer from Ajax.

The player joins goalkeeper Daniele Padelli and defender Emiliano Insua as the new arrivals at Anfield in the transfer window.

"We've made a good signing for the future in Jordy," club chief executive Rick Parry told Liverpool's website.

"He had a youth contract at Ajax, but opted to build his career at Liverpool. We've monitored his progress and look forward to developing his potential."

Good to see us finally investing in young European talent like Arsenal have been doing for the past 5+ years or so.

Ajax said they were undecided as to whether to offer this Jordy guy a professional contract. Hopefully they're just lying to avoid the embarrassment of having lost a top prospect for no more than €50,000 in compensation. But it doesnt breed confidence - surely if he was any good he'd have been offered a pro contract long ago...


Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: Fr Ted on January 26, 2007, 12:44:59 PM
I see that Salif Diao has eventually left Liverpool on a permanent basis and signed for stoke

Is that the last of the tripe that houllier bought?
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: Mayo4Sam on January 26, 2007, 12:49:05 PM
Not in the same league as diao but




Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: GalwayBayBoy on January 26, 2007, 01:19:09 PM
I'M DESPERATE FOR MAN UTD TO WIN MORE TITLES THAN LIVERPOOL!
GARY NEVILLE XCLUSIVE: TROPHY CHALLENGE WILL KEEP DRIVING ME ON
David Mcdonnell

GARY NEVILLE has admitted his deeprooted hatred for Liverpool is the driving force pushing him towards further glory in the final years of his Manchester United career.

Neville, famed for his longstanding loathing of Liverpool, is determined to help United beat their arch rivals' haul of 18 league titles before the end of his glittering playing career at Old Trafford.

And with Sir Alex Ferguson's side six points clear of Chelsea at the top of the Premiership and on course to claim their 16th championship this season, Neville is confident United can soon overtake their bitter Merseyside enemies.


"When we started winning championships in 1992-93, I always thought it would be a dream to leave this club having won more titles than Liverpool," Neville told a Q&A session for United supporters at Old Trafford.


"Obviously we haven't won the championship for a few years now, but we are only three behind Liverpool and it would be fantastic to think that in the next few years we could win three or four titles and overhaul them.


"When I was growing up, people of my age group will know that Liverpool were winning everything. That was hard to take. But they haven't won the championship for so long now and we have to make sure we keep that going."
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: Ethan Edwards on January 26, 2007, 01:33:00 PM
What do you expect from a pig but a grunt,

He is a hateful wee ugly tosser
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: Uladh on January 26, 2007, 02:38:20 PM
He is a hateful wee ugly tosser


Because he aspires to be the best?
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: Carmen Stateside on January 26, 2007, 02:40:32 PM

Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: Carmen Stateside on January 26, 2007, 02:48:02 PM

Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: J70 on January 26, 2007, 03:05:36 PM
We're all highly amused when Fowler holds up the five fingers to United fans. Steven Gerrard has admitted in his autobiography to a deep-seated antipathy to United (although he is nothing but highly complementary about the vast majority of individual United players and staff, including Neville). This stuff goes both ways.

I always loved this picture though...



Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: AZOffaly on January 26, 2007, 03:19:21 PM
Exactly J70. I think it's much better that Neville actually gives a sh*te about who he plays for, and also recognises and embraces the rivalry with Liverpool.

As for the article, I notice that 'hatred' and 'loathing' are not direct quotes. Read what he actually said, and it's perfectly understandable from his point of view. (Even if it is flawed :D)
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: supersarsfields on January 26, 2007, 04:24:41 PM
Is that the last of the tripe that houllier bought?

Is Cisse not still on the books at Liverpool?

Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: deiseach on January 26, 2007, 04:50:28 PM
Dudek was fantastic for the first year or so after we signed him. Then he had that horror show against Man U which didn't save Diego Forlan's career in England but most royally screwed Jerzy's. I don't think we should should forget how good he was in that first year though.
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: Carmen Stateside on January 26, 2007, 05:12:03 PM
Or in Istanbul  !!! ;D


Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: deiseach on January 26, 2007, 05:35:05 PM
He was bilge for 117 minutes - can there be any more humiliating experience than having to be bailed out by Djimi Traore? Then . . .


Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: J70 on January 26, 2007, 06:03:41 PM
He was bilge for 117 minutes - can there be any more humiliating experience than having to be bailed out by Djimi Traore? Then . . .




I remember Dudek spilling the one that hit his knees early in the second half, just before Gerrard's goal, but I don't Dudek had much to do with the fact that Liverpool were three down.
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: The Real Laoislad on January 26, 2007, 08:05:12 PM
Who do ye think was the worst Liverpool player over the last decade or so

Traore?



Bruno Cheyrou?



Phill Babb?




Diouf?



Kromkamp?



or does anyone remember

Erik Meijer

Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: GalwayBayBoy on January 26, 2007, 08:11:55 PM
Luckily the last decade rules out the Souness years otherwise you could have added another 15 players to that list. ;D
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: Dubh driocht on January 26, 2007, 08:25:59 PM
Two great songs about Djimi- after the OG against Burnley in the cup
Michael Jackson
Don't blame it on the Biscan
Don't blame it on the Hamman
Don't blame it on the Finnan
Blame it on Traore
I just can't, I just can't ,I just can't control my feet

Dean Martin- That's Amore
Who's the bloke at the back
Who got Houlier the sack
That's Amore
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: J70 on January 26, 2007, 09:32:44 PM
Who do ye think was the worst Liverpool player over the last decade or so

Traore?



Bruno Cheyrou?



Phill Babb?




Diouf?



Kromkamp?



or does anyone remember

Erik Meijer



There's been far far worse than that bunch. I think Douff, apart from being a bit of a p***k, is an excellent player, but he just never showed it for Liverpool. The only really great game I remember him having was when he destroyed Silvestre in the 2003 League Cup Final.

Traore has some good qualities, but the overall package just isn't good enough for top class football. He had a decent runs of matches, but a disastrous mistake was never far off. I thought similarly of Westerveld, although in his position, he was better than Traore. A lot of days he was brilliant, but he didn't seem to have the concentration to be a top-class keeper.

Babb threw his career away. Meijer seemed to be thrilled just to be at a club like Liverpool, and although he was very limited, he always gave everything. I remember him having a very good game at Old Trafford one year when Fowler and Owen were both injured (the day Patrik Berger scored the 35 yard free kick).

Cheyrou was always injured, but never seemed to get to grips with the speed and physicality of the English game. Kromkamp was probably mainly bought to cover Finnan and Gerrard, but didn't do too badly in a lot of the games, IMO.

As for really poor players over the last decade, how about Jean Michel Ferri or Sean Dundee? Vladimir Smicer, for a very skillful player,  was disappointing overall.

Biggest waste of undoubted talent - Jari Litmanen (through no fault of his own) or Stan Collymore.
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: The Real Laoislad on January 26, 2007, 09:37:26 PM
They were a fair bad buch all the same i wouldn't be as generous as you in my opinions of any of them
Any views on this american takeover bid?
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: J70 on January 26, 2007, 10:10:17 PM
They were a fair bad buch all the same i wouldn't be as generous as you in my opinions of any of them
Any views on this american takeover bid?

Didn't think I was particularly generous to any of them, although some may disagree with my opinion of Diouf! ;D

I don't know very much about the American takeover, except the little bit on the BBC website, so I don't really have an opinion. We'll see how it plays out.
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: GalwayBayBoy on January 30, 2007, 01:11:36 AM
Liverpool have announced the signing of Javier Mascherano from West Ham in an 18-month loan deal that has bent football's rules.

Mascherano, who was deemed not good enough for West Ham's relegation battle by Alan Curbishley, will be thrust into Liverpool's Champions League campaign instead.

The signing is reward for Liverpool's patience.


They hoped to sign the Argentine midfield powerhouse, 22, at the start of the transfer window, but have had to wait while lawyers have thrashed out a deal with UEFA and FIFA, because players aren't supposed to move clubs twice in a season. Mascherano has already played for Corinthians, as well as West Ham.

The authorities finally agreed to cave in on the transfer and it will be announced tomorrow, on the final day of the transfer window.

Rafa Benitez last night saluted the signing. "We have an agreement to take him on loan for 18 months then we have an option to sign him permanently.

"He is a top class player and played at the top level at the World Cup. We were monitoring him when he was with River Plate. The only question is whether he can play to his level in England, but I know he can play a lot better than he did at West Ham.

"We don't have another holding midfielder and this is a crucial time for us. We will play against West Ham, Everton, Newcastle, Sheffield United and Barcelona twice."

Mascherano made only three Premiership starts with West Ham, and seven appearances altogether.

Benitez added: "Maybe Liverpool can be a better option for him because we can speak in Spanish to him and we play a different style of football that suits him better. Corinthians and River Plate are top sides in their countries and he is used to winning trophies. I think he will have more possibilities with us."

Benitez also explained why he expected to get his man. "There is a big difference between the law and the rules," he said. "A worker cannot be stopped working. That's the law in the European Community.

"Then there are the rules, which can change depending on your country or continent. There are players in the world now who have played for three or four clubs in a season.

"The rules are one thing, but the law is another. Nobody can stop people moving to other jobs. They have freedom and they need to work. The law is more important than the rules."

Liverpool are moving to secure the long-term future of a number of their top men because of a new regulation giving a player the right to buy out his contract when it entered the last two years.

Benitez confirmed that Steven Gerrard and Jamie Carragher would be offered new deals in the summer along with Spanish pair Xabi Alonso and Luis Garcia.

West Ham last night had a £2.5m offer turned down by Charlton for Icelandic central defender Hermann Hreidarsson.
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: Mayo4Sam on January 30, 2007, 08:33:46 AM
Great news, hopefully he'll settle in better with liverpool, at least he'll be speaking the same language as half the team!
Seriously talented player but where will he fit in with alonso, sissoko & gerrard?
Possibly the talk of alonso leaving is true?
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: supersarsfields on January 30, 2007, 09:20:39 AM
Dunno how I feel about this one. It's a loan deal so the risk is pretty low!!
Not sure how well he will fit into the liverpool set-up!! With Sissoko back ready in the next week or so is there much of a need for him? I don't doubt that he's a decent signing but i would hate to think that his coming could signal Alonso leaving!!
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: Hound on January 30, 2007, 10:56:44 AM
First and foremost he'll be cover for when 1 or 2 of Alonso, Gerrard, Sissoko are unavailable - so we should see no more of Bolo Zenden in centre midfield.

But it could also signal that we'll see more and more of the wing back formation, with three central midfielders.

I'm not sure the signing is in the bag just yet, but they are very hopeful that it will happen by the deadline.
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: Mayo4Sam on January 30, 2007, 12:11:17 PM
Liverpool to land Malaga teenager 
 
Liverpool are set to sign Spanish midfielder Francis Duran from Malaga, BBC Sport understands.
The 18-year-old is expected to be heading to Anfield on Tuesday to sign a contract with the Reds.

Duran made his debut with Malaga's first team earlier this month but does not have a professional contract with the second division club.

"It's a unique opportunity and I couldn't let it go by," Duran told the Spanish press.
 
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: GalwayBayBoy on January 30, 2007, 12:20:07 PM
Liverpool have continued their flurry of activity ahead of Wednesday night's transfer deadline by signing Deportivo La Coruna defender Alvaro Arbeloa.

With Rafa Benitez targeting three signings over the next couple of days, the centre back is travelling to Merseyside to undergo a medical.

Malaga's Francis Duran has agreed to his switch to Anfield and Javier Mascherano looks likely to obtain permission from FIFA to arrive from West Ham.

Benitez has looked to his homeland again to swoop for Arbeloa after thrashing out a deal with Depor.

"The club has got a very good investment," declared coach Joaquin Caparros in confirming the transfer.

Real Madrid are entitled to 50 percent of the profit on the money earned on the 24-year-old, who has made 14 appearances this term, after he started his career with the capital club
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: Fr Ted on January 30, 2007, 12:41:52 PM
Phil Babb - Joe Guest destroyed him :-X - (lucky boy)
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: Gabriel_Hurl on January 30, 2007, 07:47:34 PM
Rafael Benitez has made two changes to the Liverpool team for tonight's Premiership clash against West Ham.
Out go Jermaine Pennant and Fabio Aurelio, with Craig Bellamy and Sami Hyypia coming in to replace them.

Bellamy will form a three-pronged attack alongside Dirk Kuyt and Peter Crouch as Benitez opts for the system that worked so effectively at Watford recently.

Team in full:
Reina,
Finnan,
Riise,
Hyypia,
Agger,
Carragher,
Gerrard,
Alonso,
Crouch,
Kuyt,
Bellamy.

Subs – Dudek, Fowler, Gonzalez, Pennant, Zenden
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: Gabriel_Hurl on January 30, 2007, 08:56:10 PM
Kuyt scores first 11 seconds into the 2nd half
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: Gabriel_Hurl on January 30, 2007, 09:01:41 PM
Crouch doubles the lead
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: AZOffaly on January 30, 2007, 09:43:39 PM
Another good result, although LFC were hanging on a bit at the end, albeit not too nervously really. I felt Rafa shouldn't have brought off Crouch, LFC were definitely in the ascendency at that point with the 3-4-3 formation. After Pennant and Gonzalez came on it was essentially 4-5-1.

No matter though, just 2 points behind the Russians now, I just hope the run goes on until the end of the season.
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: Dinny Breen on January 30, 2007, 09:59:42 PM
That Crouch goal was one of the goals of the season, the build-up was fantastic.
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: AZOffaly on January 30, 2007, 10:01:44 PM
It was a good, old fashioned Pass and Move build up alright. Great finish as well, the way he opened up and side footed with the big size 17. Great ball be Riise onto his run though.

I feel sorry for the not-so-happy hammers. I hope they stay up.
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: J70 on January 30, 2007, 11:20:47 PM
Good win. Liverpool don't have a great record at Upton Park and this was the sort of match that they have tended to lose over the past decade or so. Two stunning goals too!

Three of the next four games are very tough, although three of them are at Anfield. Everton first, then Newcastle away and, after Sheffield United at home, United come to Anfield! The Barcelona games are in there too. Maybe its just as well Arsenal put us out of the cups!
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: Goats Do Shave on January 31, 2007, 11:08:33 AM
Liverpool getting more rules bent to suit them today again...

1st it was entry to the Champs league, after finishing 5th!!!! Now they are allowed to sign inelgible players!

Rick Parry was Liverpool's best signing over the years!!!!!!

& David Dein at Arsenal - I don't trust him either!


(2 cracking goals last night though!)
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: SuperDooperCooper on January 31, 2007, 11:17:32 AM
Maybe I've been supporting Liverpool too long but I thought we were poor last night. I though Kuyt has a very poor first half (gave the ball away every time he touched it). In the second half after we were 2 up, West ham were left pass through the midfield way too easy, the West Ham goal was coming for a bit. Last 20 mins we were hanging on for dear life. Now the positives Agger looks better with each match, Gerrard hitting top form, great goals, 2nd was the best team goal for a bit. Finnan is class - Stan please take note. Tough run coming up. Rafa must really reject the start to the season now.

On the BBC site that the Liverpool board are stalling for more money from DIC.
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: AZOffaly on January 31, 2007, 11:45:27 AM
Bit harsh SDC. I know what you are saying though. I wasn't blown away at all, and apart from a period of about 20 minutes where Liverpool tore them apart and could have scored 4 or 5, I don't think it was anything more than a 'satisfactory' performance.

I do like the fact that Rafa goes for the throat against teams LFC should be beating, 3-4-3 is positive formation.

I don't think LFC were really under severe pressure towards the end, but it was a bit uncomfortable.
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: Gabriel_Hurl on January 31, 2007, 01:11:56 PM
There's no harm in bending the rules.

FIFA explained that its ruling was determined partly because the South American and European seasons overlap.
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: Goats Do Shave on January 31, 2007, 02:41:21 PM
There's no harm in bending the rules.

Typical Tyrone man view!!!  ::)  :P
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: GalwayBayBoy on January 31, 2007, 04:07:55 PM
DIC have pulled out. :o
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: Gabriel_Hurl on January 31, 2007, 04:10:44 PM
I hope they pulled out in time  ;D
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: corn02 on January 31, 2007, 04:11:05 PM
Thats Granads fault, for wanting to review the share price because Gillet offered more. Shower of greedy cnuts!  >:(
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: SuperDooperCooper on January 31, 2007, 04:37:41 PM
I think this is bad news.
I read the statement on the BBC website and they seem to be saying that they will not overpay for the club.
Hopefully this won't affect transfer deadline day deals.
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: The Real Laoislad on January 31, 2007, 05:20:46 PM
im gutted dic pulled out,don't know what to make of this american fella but he hardly has as much cash as the arabs
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: Fr Ted on January 31, 2007, 05:32:32 PM
Lets not jump the gun just yet, with Moores & Parry steering the ship they will be wanting the best possible deal on offer for the club
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: The Real Laoislad on January 31, 2007, 05:35:53 PM
Lets not jump the gun just yet, with Moores & Parry steering the ship they will be wanting the best possible deal on offer for the club

Yer right there Ted(always wanted to post that!) .Moores and Parry are Liverpool through and through and will do the best for the club not themselves
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: corn02 on January 31, 2007, 08:26:30 PM
Gillet is Canadian.

It is not Liverpool's fault. Granda have 9.9 % shares in Liverpool and they called a review of both offers, which must of put off DIC.
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: Gabriel_Hurl on January 31, 2007, 08:44:21 PM
Gillett is American.   

He owns a Canadian hockey team called the Montreal Canadiens - boooooooooooooooooooooo
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: corn02 on January 31, 2007, 09:22:44 PM
aw i see, apologies. He is American then? thats much worse.
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: Gabriel_Hurl on January 31, 2007, 10:29:15 PM
2201: LIVERPOOL buy/DEP. LA CORUNA & MALAGA sell
No sooner said than done. Liverpool land Spanish duo Alvaro Arbeloa and Francisco Manuel Duran. Defender Arbeloa, 24, is believed to have cost £2.6m from Deportivo La Coruna. As for 18-year-old midfielder Duran, he is for the youth ranks.
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: Fr Ted on February 01, 2007, 09:13:09 AM
All in all i would have to say that rafa has generally bought well with the limited funds at his disposal, the squad is in much better  shape than the 1 that he inherited. If the signings don't come up to scratch he gets rid quick smart. (bit of a ruthless streak).  what would he not do with a bit of money to spend on a couple of world class players, which liverpool could do with to take them to the next level.
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: SuperDooperCooper on February 01, 2007, 09:26:35 AM
Just in - the taped converstion of the Gillette offer:

George Gillette : The name's Gillette. George Gillette. And I come before you good people tonight with an idea. Probably the greatest... Aw, it's not for you. It's more of a Shelbyville idea.

Moores : Now wait just a minute! We're twice as smart as the people of Shelbyville! Just tell us your idea and we'll vote for it!
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: Ethan Edwards on February 01, 2007, 03:53:27 PM
Alvaro Arbeloa is a defender , but is he a centre half, left back or Right Back, does anyone know anything about this guy, we sold warnock is he the replacement ?
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: Carmen Stateside on February 01, 2007, 03:56:24 PM
Heard he was a right back, cant see him pushing Finnan out!! ???
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: deiseach on February 01, 2007, 05:34:22 PM
Gillett is American.   

He owns a Canadian hockey team called the Montreal Canadiens - boooooooooooooooooooooo


Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: magpie seanie on February 01, 2007, 06:05:38 PM
Quote
im gutted dic pulled out,don't know what to make of this american fella but he hardly has as much cash as the arabs

Would you try and live in the real world for God's sake. No-one (bar Roman Abramovich and Jack Walker a while back when it was a lot cheaper) is going to buy a soccer club and throw good money after bad to buy players to keep fans happy. Just be hopeful the buyer is not a leech like Glazer though it's most likely that he will be to an extent anyway. As for Parry and Moores not looking out for themselves......
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: corn02 on February 01, 2007, 06:20:48 PM
Iirhs bid from Co Down man John Milliskey now being considered.
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: MasterShake on February 01, 2007, 06:31:58 PM
Just in - the taped converstion of the Gillette offer:

George Gillette : The name's Gillette. George Gillette. And I come before you good people tonight with an idea. Probably the greatest... Aw, it's not for you. It's more of a Shelbyville idea.

Moores : Now wait just a minute! We're twice as smart as the people of Shelbyville! Just tell us your idea and we'll vote for it!

Monorail. Monorail. Monorail!!!  :D Nice one SDC. Let's hope the new stadium doesn't go the same way as the Monorail...
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: The Real Laoislad on February 01, 2007, 06:39:11 PM
Quote
im gutted dic pulled out,don't know what to make of this american fella but he hardly has as much cash as the arabs

Would you try and live in the real world for God's sake. No-one (bar Roman Abramovich and Jack Walker a while back when it was a lot cheaper) is going to buy a soccer club and throw good money after bad to buy players to keep fans happy. Just be hopeful the buyer is not a leech like Glazer though it's most likely that he will be to an extent anyway. As for Parry and Moores not looking out for themselves......

Everyones entitled to their own views and concerns it doesn't mean im living in a fantasy world,And i believe Moore and Parry while obviously are trying to make a few quid for themselves are still trying to secure Liverpool Football Club's future and won't sell out just too make a quick buck
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: Gabriel_Hurl on February 02, 2007, 12:51:46 PM
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/football/teams/l/liverpool/6323037.stm

Quote
Liverpool have agreed a deal with American tycoons George Gillett and Tom Hicks, who are set to complete their takeover of the club early next week.

Gillett and Hicks flew to England earlier this week for a secret meeting with senior Liverpool officials.

They persuaded the club to stall talks with Dubai International Capital, which had been expected to buy out the club.

Hicks and Gillett will split the £470m takeover on a 50-50 basis with £215m of that earmarked for a new stadium.

Gillett owns National Hockey League side Montreal Canadiens while Hicks owns rival NHL franchise Dallas Stars as well as the Texas Rangers baseball team.

Hicks has built up a reputation for developing state-of-the-art new stadia for his teams and his participation was a key factor in Liverpool deciding to go with the US bid.

The other issue which clinched the deal is the Americans guaranteed that Liverpool's new stadium on Stanley Park would not be on a groundshare basis, which had been Gillett's original plan when he was considering a solo takeover.

Gillett has impressed Liverpool with his proposals and the speed at which he completed due diligence - the process of investigation by potential investors - in three days.

The 68-year-old American has also stressed his experience in running successful sporting operations.

However, the Independent has claimed that Gillett's business empire collapsed in 1992, leading to a £33.7m personal bankruptcy.

Gillett and Hicks have worked together in the past on the board of a major US meat-processing firm.

Their idea to take over Liverpool gathered force when they met at the NHL All-Star Game last week.

It would be the first time that two owners of rival sports clubs in one league have combined to purchase a club in another.

I feel a lot better knowing there's someone else coming in with him - and this fella Hicks seems to know what he is at
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: Square Ball on February 03, 2007, 01:55:31 PM
Finding it hard to break Everton down they are well organised at the back,hope we're not going to drop valuable points here
Half time : Liverpool 0-0 Everton

are you watching it on the internet? its on PPMate and the quality isnt bad, its on ESPN
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: heganboy on February 03, 2007, 07:48:00 PM
reds were poor and looked like they lacked ideas. glad to see fowler on put would have taken off Bellamy and Crouch, and looked for balls to feet from a bit of width. Everton dealt very well with the high ball in and yet Liverpool had no other ideas. very disappointing day at the office for a lot of players, and to be fair for Benitez also
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: Armagh4SamAgain on February 03, 2007, 09:24:21 PM
Fowler is to fat an old to be playing in the PL. why did reds by him? i dono. he was crap at Man shitty an he is not gona do anything for reds this year. hes passed it. End of story.
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: J70 on February 04, 2007, 05:28:34 AM
Fowler is to fat an old to be playing in the PL. why did reds by him? i dono. he was crap at Man shitty an he is not gona do anything for reds this year. hes passed it. End of story.

Fowler did the business for Liverpool in the run-in last season, getting a few vital goals at a time when Liverpool were struggling with the likes of Morientes and Ciise. While he may be surplus to requirements at this stage, he's still scored a goal for every three appearances this season, which is not bad given that most of them have come in the form of late substitute appearances.
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: cicfada on February 04, 2007, 08:23:00 AM
I remember when Man Utd was bought by the yanks every Liverpool was  laughing..................well who's laughing now boys??? ;)
PS Good result yesterday :-*
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: deiseach on February 04, 2007, 11:20:31 AM
I remember when Man Utd was bought by the yanks every Liverpool was  laughing..................well who's laughing now boys??? ;)

"Football fans in hypocrisy shocker!!"

At least you won't have Liverpool fans flouncing off to form FC Liverpool of Anfield and thinking they're somehow the keepers of the flame  ;)

PS Good result yesterday :-*

Terrible result against a shower of small time Charlies.

Everton FC - The Small Club
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: Uladh on February 04, 2007, 11:27:58 AM

Poor performance from everton. johnson should have won the game but 4 points from a possible 6 against the bin dippers is a good season's work.
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: deiseach on February 04, 2007, 11:43:32 AM
Poor performance from everton. johnson should have won the game but 4 points from a possible 6 against the bin dippers is a good season's work.

If Liverpool fans are 'bindippers', what does that make Everton fans? :D
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: SammyG on February 04, 2007, 12:03:11 PM
I remember when Man Utd was bought by the yanks every Liverpool was  laughing..................well who's laughing now boys??? ;)

I think you might want to check out the difference between investment and indebtedness. I've no problem with anybody (American or otherwise) investing in Liverpool. The issue with the Glazers and ManUre was that they didn't invest a brass farthing, they took out a £600 million plus mortgage which took ManUre from one of the richest and most profitable clubs in the World to being one bad season away from bankruptcy. Hardly the same thing.
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: cicfada on February 04, 2007, 06:48:40 PM
I remember when Man Utd was bought by the yanks every Liverpool was  laughing..................well who's laughing now boys??? ;)

I think you might want to check out the difference between investment and indebtedness. I've no problem with anybody (American or otherwise) investing in Liverpool. The issue with the Glazers and ManUre was that they didn't invest a brass farthing, they took out a £600 million plus mortgage which took ManUre from one of the richest and most profitable clubs in the World to being one bad season away from bankruptcy. Hardly the same thing.
Both franchises being owned by Yanks...the same thing!!
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: The Real Laoislad on February 04, 2007, 06:53:35 PM
I remember when Man Utd was bought by the yanks every Liverpool was  laughing..................well who's laughing now boys??? ;)
PS Good result yesterday :-*

Rafa Benitaz to get a transfer kitty of 250million Alex Ferguson got exactly how much off the Glaziers?
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: Square Ball on February 04, 2007, 07:05:46 PM
Having a transfer kitty that size will bring its own problems, inflated prices, unscrupulous agents, panic buys.... we don't know how much he has or hasn't but if he wants a player he will get he money, he has went after 2 players from the start of the season, all he wants is OH and thats that.

Spend wisely
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: The Real Laoislad on February 04, 2007, 07:40:32 PM
Yeah true square ball i was only making a point that there is a great difference between the Glaziers takeover of Man United and this Americans takeover of Liverpool
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: Uladh on February 05, 2007, 02:46:13 PM
If Liverpool fans are 'bindippers', what does that make Everton fans? :D

The more integrated and domesticated of the species...
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: Windmill abu on February 07, 2007, 11:16:55 AM
Upon completion of the takeover at Anfield yesterday, the new owners declared the old Liverpool crest would be replaced with a more modern look.




Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: Norf Tyrone on February 07, 2007, 09:57:31 PM
I'm sure it has already done the rounds....

 Scouts have prepared a guide to the Liverpool Reds
>
> Jose (Pep) Reina
>
> Netminder with an impressive 19 shutouts this regular season. Save
> average of .854 in last five outs. Replaces New Jerzy Dudek as
> first-choice goaltender after veteran's series of high-profile
> handling errors. Nicknamed after Pep Le Pew, the cheese-eating
> surrender skunk.
>
> James 'The Minister Of Defense' Carragher
>
> Captain of defense and native 'Scouser'. 2963 minutes of field time
> with powerplay change-up stats of 5-6-3. Awesome displays in penalty
> zone versus aerial offense plays. Awesome displays at club Christmas
> parties. Distribution ranked only 245th in EPL. Note: communication
> may be difficult as James does not speak English.
>
> Steve O'Finnan
>
> Defensive cornerback/outside linebacker ranked six in division for
> forward offense running plays. Highly-rated change-up, groundspeed.
> 245 defensive tackle ratio. Proud Irishman: merchandising
> opportunities with millions of east coast Americans who are 1/64 from
> Cork. Vital cornerman, new shorts.
>
> Sam Hyypia
>
> Veteran centerblocker famed for aerial rebound ability,
> composureability, although lacks change-up, questions over groundplay
> v forwards with nimbleness quotient. Radical air with headbombs from
> special plays ensures a conversions per season tally average of six.
> Hails from Finlandland, a country in Europe that is part of the 'Axis
> Of Pleasantness'.
>
> John-Arnold Riise
>
> Cornerman who regularly features in goalshot of the month sweeps with
> a left peg rated in top five nationwide for sweetness. Rookie,
> sophomore seasons raised expectations of possible Hall of Famer status
> but recent semesters have seen the person of redly-challenged hair
> demoted to bullpen on occasion. 7-6-8.
>
> Gerrard Steven
>
> Team MVP, captain and midfielderman famed for power running, pass
> accuracy, assists. Has dressed as center, right wingerbacker
> (offensive and defensive) and even as secondary power forward. Can
> rush goal or sit back in the pocket. Career high came in Pro-Ball
> showdown against the Milan Tumblers in Istanbul (believed site of
> WMD).
>
> Craig Bellamy
>
> Controversial wide receiver/goal forward rated division's third most
> likely player to face red card takedown in grudge slams. Lightning
> fast in joggy work down winglines, although critics question net
> targeting infield. Has switched franchises several times in career
> amid rumors of all-star level jackassery.
>
> Robert Bernard Fowler
>
> Veteran strike attacker and all-time Liverpool Reds Hall of Famer.
> Once considered league MVP for shotzone rebounds and accuracy in the
> paint. Famously flagged on field for displaying his tight end to
> opponent Graeme Le Saux, and for calling into question The War On
> Drugs.
>
> Xavi Alonso (ITA)
>
> 6-5-7, 12, 468, 0.43, 0, 0, 0, 1, 0, 98632548, 1, 1, 0 (?), 0, 1. 0.3.
>
> Jermaine Pennant
>
> Wide receiver/running forward has rushed for over 1,000 yards in
> Liverpool Reds rookie season. Crossfields delivery success rate well
> into point-seven-ohs, play action, sprinty, jigglebomb, DUI. 6.662.
> Off-field activities saw him given bum's rush from Steve Bruskowski's
> Birmingham Brums. Only soccerplayer on roster with a sensible
> sportsman's name.
>
> Peter Crouch Jr
>
> Power forward who could have potential if consortium moves into NBA.
> Noted for headbomb assists, ganglyhole, salmon leap, robotics. 0.673,
> runners batted in, three points. Traded several times early in career
> but has flourished under head coach Benitez at the Anfield Taco
> Bellodrome.
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: Gabriel_Hurl on February 09, 2007, 09:08:53 PM
Rafa got manager of the month for Jan as well
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: Syd The Sailor on February 09, 2007, 09:35:57 PM
We need to stop buying second rate crap like Pennant and go for the real, to use an american phrase, "marquee" players if we are to ever win the league again......
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: GalwayBayBoy on February 10, 2007, 03:47:53 AM
JACK TODD in Montreal, CanWest News Service

Published: Thursday, February 08, 2007

George Gillett Jr. hung a left on his way into the presser in the bowels of the
Bell Centre yesterday.

It was the only wrong turn he made all morning.

Between watching his Montreal Canadiens defeat the Pittsburgh Penguins on Sunday afternoon and seeing them lose to the Hurricanes on Tuesday night, Gillett had flown to Liverpool and back -- and all he brought us was this lousy soccer team. Just kidding.

With deep pockets partner Tom Hicks of the Texas Rangers and Dallas Stars, Gillett had just acquired fabled Liverpool. Now he was back, a little the worse for jet lag, and ready to explain things to the supporters of his other team, the Montreal Canadiens. When after half an hour or so Habs VP Donald Beauchamp tried to rescue him from further questions, Gillett held up a hand.

"It's OK," he said. "This is home, I'm here, let's talk a while."

And he went on for another 45 minutes, addressing everything from the effect this will have on the Canadiens (none) to the future of the NHL on television (where Gillett believes high-definition has the power to bring a real sense of the game to Americans who don't understand the speed or the impact of hockey.) It was quite a performance.

You could say that Gillett made a lot of friends in that room yesterday, but Gillett never had any real enemies here anyway. What he demonstrated, especially given the jet lag, was that he is an excellent communicator and an effervescent salesman with a wide-ranging grasp of the issues in big-time professional sports in the 21st century.

He also showed that he could probably sell a few trainloads of ice to Winnipeg right now -- but that is part of Gillett's charm. Whereas fellow Americans Malcolm Glazer (at Manchester United) and Randy Lerner (Aston Villa) have alienated supporters of their teams by refusing to have anything to do with either the media or the fans, Gillett revels in rubbing elbows with both those who cover his teams and those who pay the bills by purchasing the tickets.

"It's not that they're doing anything wrong," Gillett said of Glazer and Lerner, "it's just a difference of style."

On that point we disagree. It is a difference of style, but it goes much deeper than that. What Glazer and Lerner have done is flat wrong. Whether the team is the Canadiens or the Reds or AC Milan, owning an institution in which fans have invested so much blood, sweat and tears (not to mention their hard-earned cash) is a public trust and it comes with public obligations.

Gillett is popular here because he has shown again and again that he has a sense of that public trust. When he talked about walking alone at Anfield yesterday and visiting the sacred Kop, the menacing terrace that puts the fear in visiting teams and is one of the most legendary spots in all of soccer, you believed that he felt the tradition and that it really meant something to him.

While Gillett downplayed concerns over any negative impact the Liverpool deal might have on the Canadiens, he also pointed the way to the potential for the two teams (Gillett was soundly spanked on the other side of the pond for using the word "franchise" in Liverpool, an Americanism that did not go over well with the leftish supporters of the Reds) to grow together in ways that are a little more concrete than that woolly business term "synergy" usually suggests.

First there is Hicks with his extensive cable and Fox Sports holdings in Central and South America. Then there is Gillett. While he may not have pockets as deep as Hicks, he has the vision and the gift for salesmanship of what is already a hugely popular international brand.

"In Greater Europe, Liverpool is the No. 1 brand in Europe," Gillett said. "If you go to the Far East, where Manchester United has historically been the No. 1 brand, Chelsea has recently become quite popular. They have a global branding concept which involves playing a number of games in the Far East.

"In that part of the world, Liverpool is No. 2 and growing. We have had conversations with management in the last several months and I believe you will see Liverpool playing some friendlies in Asia. I think you'll see Japan first in this coming year and then others beyond that.

"We have looked at the possibility of branding in a different way in that investments in soccer clubs in emerging parts of the world might be part of our strategy. There is a strong consciousness within the Liverpool family about the world-wide aspects of the sport. When you see the number of people who watched the World Cup, it was something like 2.3-billion people.

"You have the Texas Rangers in baseball, which is hugely popular in the Far East, the Dallas Stars, the Montreal Canadiens, the Liverpool Football Club and our family's involvement with NASCAR. You've got four unbelievably popular sports with growing international interest. If we get a hard-hitting marketing team that could provide potential sponsors with that array of opportunity, that's something I don't think has ever been put together before.

"There's a unique opportunity because the market is demanding it. If you look at the new sponsors in the Premiership within the past five years, more than a third of them are from Asia. There are something like 1,000 new Mercedes dealerships in China. The greatest amount of true new wealth in the world is in Russia. This alliance could have some interesting benefits for all of us."

We won't dwell on the potential negatives here, such as cigarette sponsorships in Asia or the global warming implications of all those Mercedes dealerships in China. But when you look at these far-flung sports and business empires, Gillett is now at the epicenter of one and it is likely not a bad thing for the Canadiens to tag along. At the end of the day, we were left with only one real regret: it's a pity Gillett didn't see the same potential in the Montreal Expos. He's the one guy who might have saved the team.
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: Caitlin on February 10, 2007, 09:25:49 PM
Did everything but score- 3rd place is dicey. Cannot see any joy from Barcelona.
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: The Real Laoislad on February 13, 2007, 09:17:43 PM
Reading a great book at the moment maybe some of ye have already read it but if not i highly recommend it
It's called 'A season on the brink'-A portrait of Rafael Benitez's Liverpool and it's wrote by Guillem Balague who some may know from Sky Sports La Liga coverage
It's based around the Champions League winning season and gives a great insight into Benitez's life,personality,his love for footbal,realationships withplayers etc
Some of the writing just makes the hair stand up on the back of your neck as he desribes the Liverpool dressing room at half time in Istanbul
A great read
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: Syd The Sailor on February 13, 2007, 09:24:53 PM
I have just started reading it, its a great read.Its only 5 or 6 quid on Play.com. Cant believe Benitez was getting so much shit when we got put out of the two bullshit cup competitions, ringleader of course was that gobshite tosser Andy Gray. If i had a good shot on him i would take the turd out.
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: GalwayBayBoy on February 18, 2007, 05:13:05 AM
By Dominic Herbert & Anthony Kastrinakis



A FUN sing-song turned into a vicious punch-up as Liverpool ace Craig Bellamy saw red and waded into team-mate John Arne Riise in a drunken rage.

The sensational bust-up erupted in the early hours of Friday at the team's Portuguese hotel after a marathon boozing session.



An eye witness says the feuding Premiership stars:




TRADED INSULTS during a bar's karaoke contest when Riise refused to take the stage,



SCREAMED ABUSE as they faced each other toe to toe,



TOTTERED back to their training camp base at 2am,



FOUGHT in a hotel as Bellamy lashed out at Riise's £5 million legs with a golf club, until the pair were



SEPARATED by head coach Rafael Benitez.


The outrage has massive implications for both players and the club, who have just been taken over by new American owners.



Tycoon co-chairmen George Gillett and Tom Hicks who invested £470 million were said to be furious that their name has been dragged through the mud just before a vital Champions League clash with Barcelona on Wednesday—their most important match this year.



Insiders have predicted it could spell the end of 27-year-old bad boy Bellamy's career at Anfield.

The astonishing incident kicked off at Monty's Restaurant and Bar in the upmarket Algarve Vale do Lobo resort where Welsh international Bellamy and Norwegian World Cup hero Riise, 25, were winding down with colleagues after five days' training in preparation for Wednesday.



An inside source revealed: "There had been a lot of drinking and everyone was enjoying themselves.



"But it all went wrong when Craig tried to drag John up for a song.



"There was a karaoke competition going on, but John's a quiet one off the pitch and wasn't having it at all.



"It started off as a bit of a lark with some of the other lads having a go but then it got completely out of hand. John went ballistic because Craig wouldn't take no for an answer. He was screaming at Craig to leave him alone, saying he wouldn't do it and yelling insults.



"Everyone was completely stunned by it because they were really having a go, standing there toe to toe swearing at each other. There were about 20 players in the bar including all the senior guys, like Steven Gerrard, Peter Crouch and Dirk Kuyt.



"They were warned to keep a lid on it and it appeared to calm down.



"It was really late, about 2am, and the players eventually started drifting off to bed. But Craig, who was sharing with Steve Finnan, was so wound up he couldn't sleep.



"He suddenly grabbed a golf club and went looking for John. And when he found him he waded in, hacking at his legs with the club.



"All hell was let loose and John suffered a lot of bruising. Craig was out of control and shouting that John had belittled him in front of the lads."

Eventually coach Benitez was called to separate the two stars. The boss was said to be horrified and called both players to an emergency summit after they sobered up.



Benitez had plenty to worry about. Unconfirmed reports in a local newspaper said one footballer had also been handcuffed after allegedly trying to headbutt a policeman.



And it was claimed other players smashed electrical equipment in the resort with their golf clubs.



Staff at the four-star Barringtons Centro Deportivo hotel were ordered to keep quiet about the disturbance.

"The players flew back to Britain on Friday and were trying to keep a lid on the shameful incident.



But our source said: "With Liverpool just about to play one of the most important matches in their history this is the last thing they need.



"The break was meant to be a bit of rest and recreation with light training to get the team acclimatised for the Nou Camp on Wednesday, but this fight has ruined everything.



"It has heaped disgrace on the club when all the attention should be focused on what happens on the pitch. The new owners can't understand how grown men can behave like this. They believe the club's reputation is in the gutter and find it incredible that this should happen just before the Barcelona game.



"If Liverpool lose the match because of this there'll be hell to pay."



Riise's teammates are shocked at Bellamy's attack on a fellow professional and friend. A source said: "To smash a golf club into a fellow player's legs is unforgivable.

"It's the worst place ever to attack a footballer. Damaged legs are no good to anyone in this business and Riise is known for his trademark blockbusting shots.



"It's like deliberately trying to break someone's leg on the pitch — however cross or angry you are, it's a no-brainer. You just can't do it.



"John was mortified when Craig came bursting into his room like that. Anything could have happened."



It is not clear what punishments the players face. But hard-line Spaniard Benitez is unlikely to tolerate such loutish behaviour ever again and at the very least is expected to fine both men heavily.



One insider said: "Some people feel it's time to ship Bellamy out so he can be someone else's problem."



A Liverpool spokesman said: "We're not prepared to make any comment."

Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: Square Ball on February 18, 2007, 12:35:24 PM
Bloody hell, what sort of professional footballer tries to deliberatly ruin a fellow pros careerer, never mind a team mates. I wonder will he ever play again for Liverpool?

where was this report taken from?
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: The Real Laoislad on February 18, 2007, 01:09:53 PM
By Dominic Herbert & Anthony Kastrinakis



A FUN sing-song turned into a vicious punch-up as Liverpool ace Craig Bellamy saw red and waded into team-mate John Arne Riise in a drunken rage.

The sensational bust-up erupted in the early hours of Friday at the team's Portuguese hotel after a marathon boozing session.



An eye witness says the feuding Premiership stars:




TRADED INSULTS during a bar's karaoke contest when Riise refused to take the stage,



SCREAMED ABUSE as they faced each other toe to toe,



TOTTERED back to their training camp base at 2am,



FOUGHT in a hotel as Bellamy lashed out at Riise's £5 million legs with a golf club, until the pair were



SEPARATED by head coach Rafael Benitez.


The outrage has massive implications for both players and the club, who have just been taken over by new American owners.



Tycoon co-chairmen George Gillett and Tom Hicks who invested £470 million were said to be furious that their name has been dragged through the mud just before a vital Champions League clash with Barcelona on Wednesday—their most important match this year.



Insiders have predicted it could spell the end of 27-year-old bad boy Bellamy's career at Anfield.

The astonishing incident kicked off at Monty's Restaurant and Bar in the upmarket Algarve Vale do Lobo resort where Welsh international Bellamy and Norwegian World Cup hero Riise, 25, were winding down with colleagues after five days' training in preparation for Wednesday.



An inside source revealed: "There had been a lot of drinking and everyone was enjoying themselves.



"But it all went wrong when Craig tried to drag John up for a song.



"There was a karaoke competition going on, but John's a quiet one off the pitch and wasn't having it at all.



"It started off as a bit of a lark with some of the other lads having a go but then it got completely out of hand. John went ballistic because Craig wouldn't take no for an answer. He was screaming at Craig to leave him alone, saying he wouldn't do it and yelling insults.



"Everyone was completely stunned by it because they were really having a go, standing there toe to toe swearing at each other. There were about 20 players in the bar including all the senior guys, like Steven Gerrard, Peter Crouch and Dirk Kuyt.



"They were warned to keep a lid on it and it appeared to calm down.



"It was really late, about 2am, and the players eventually started drifting off to bed. But Craig, who was sharing with Steve Finnan, was so wound up he couldn't sleep.



"He suddenly grabbed a golf club and went looking for John. And when he found him he waded in, hacking at his legs with the club.



"All hell was let loose and John suffered a lot of bruising. Craig was out of control and shouting that John had belittled him in front of the lads."

Eventually coach Benitez was called to separate the two stars. The boss was said to be horrified and called both players to an emergency summit after they sobered up.



Benitez had plenty to worry about. Unconfirmed reports in a local newspaper said one footballer had also been handcuffed after allegedly trying to headbutt a policeman.



And it was claimed other players smashed electrical equipment in the resort with their golf clubs.



Staff at the four-star Barringtons Centro Deportivo hotel were ordered to keep quiet about the disturbance.

"The players flew back to Britain on Friday and were trying to keep a lid on the shameful incident.



But our source said: "With Liverpool just about to play one of the most important matches in their history this is the last thing they need.



"The break was meant to be a bit of rest and recreation with light training to get the team acclimatised for the Nou Camp on Wednesday, but this fight has ruined everything.



"It has heaped disgrace on the club when all the attention should be focused on what happens on the pitch. The new owners can't understand how grown men can behave like this. They believe the club's reputation is in the gutter and find it incredible that this should happen just before the Barcelona game.



"If Liverpool lose the match because of this there'll be hell to pay."



Riise's teammates are shocked at Bellamy's attack on a fellow professional and friend. A source said: "To smash a golf club into a fellow player's legs is unforgivable.

"It's the worst place ever to attack a footballer. Damaged legs are no good to anyone in this business and Riise is known for his trademark blockbusting shots.



"It's like deliberately trying to break someone's leg on the pitch — however cross or angry you are, it's a no-brainer. You just can't do it.



"John was mortified when Craig came bursting into his room like that. Anything could have happened."



It is not clear what punishments the players face. But hard-line Spaniard Benitez is unlikely to tolerate such loutish behaviour ever again and at the very least is expected to fine both men heavily.



One insider said: "Some people feel it's time to ship Bellamy out so he can be someone else's problem."



A Liverpool spokesman said: "We're not prepared to make any comment."



I can't believe this is it true? I don't see anything about it on sky news
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: GalwayBayBoy on February 18, 2007, 01:39:42 PM
Bloody hell, what sort of professional footballer tries to deliberatly ruin a fellow pros careerer, never mind a team mates. I wonder will he ever play again for Liverpool?

where was this report taken from?

News of the Screws.
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: Syd The Sailor on February 18, 2007, 03:50:10 PM
There is reference to it on bbc website. Bellamy will never change, once a gypo always a gypo........
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: Farrandeelin on February 18, 2007, 04:33:47 PM
If that's how Liverpool try to prepare to win the European Cup 6 times then so be it... ;)
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: Syd The Sailor on February 18, 2007, 06:08:31 PM
If that's how Liverpool try to prepare to win the European Cup 6 times then so be it... ;)

Farandeelin.....Salford City Reds will not be preparing to win a 6th European Cup in your lifetime.
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: Over the Bar on February 18, 2007, 07:04:09 PM
Bellamy is filth.  He fits into the Liverpool set-up so well.   ;)
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: superblues on February 18, 2007, 07:18:05 PM
see barca are getting beat 2 0
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: Syd The Sailor on February 18, 2007, 07:21:52 PM
Bellamy is filth.  He fits into the Liverpool set-up so well.   ;)

Over the bar....Fair comment he should have behaved a bit better, like that deceased wifebeating, alcoholic waster you Salford City supporters hold in such high regard......
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: corn02 on February 18, 2007, 07:25:13 PM
News of the World? Must be true.  ::)
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: superblues on February 18, 2007, 07:26:31 PM
syd you are a fool
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: Over the Bar on February 18, 2007, 07:27:54 PM
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Over the bar....Fair comment he should have behaved a bit better, like that deceased wifebeating, alcoholic waster you Salford City supporters hold in such high regard......

He had talent tho.  Bellamy's just a dwarf who can run fast.
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: Syd The Sailor on February 18, 2007, 07:31:04 PM
He really utilised that talent,was it 6 months or something he played for United for? his main talent was in the players lounge after the matches.Bellamy might be a tool but we have the right manager to deal with him, not a manager that spends half his days in a brandy induced haze...  ;)
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: superblues on February 18, 2007, 07:34:55 PM
He really utilised that talent,was it 6 months or something he played for United for? his main talent was in the players lounge after the matches.Bellamy might be a tool but we have the right manager to deal with him, not a manager that spends half his days in a brandy induced haze...  ;)
what manager would that be?
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: Syd The Sailor on February 18, 2007, 07:37:50 PM
He really utilised that talent,was it 6 months or something he played for United for? his main talent was in the players lounge after the matches.Bellamy might be a tool but we have the right manager to deal with him, not a manager that spends half his days in a brandy induced haze...  ;)
what manager would that be?
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Alex "Rosey Cheeks" Ferguson
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: gawa316 on February 19, 2007, 09:42:19 AM
Team for wednesday.
                                                Reina
                                   Carragher, Hyppia, Agger
                           Finnan                                   Riise
                                    Gerrard, Sissoko, Alonso
                                            Crouch, Kuyt

If reports are true about Bellend he should be sold in the summer if not immediately. Northern Ireland fans were lambasted for booing him apparently because he played for celtic, ballax its because he's a wee tr**p and one of the most hated players currently in the premiership. These recent reports only back this up
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: SlimShady on February 19, 2007, 10:28:43 AM
FOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOORE!!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: Syd The Sailor on February 19, 2007, 10:32:01 AM
He really utilised that talent,was it 6 months or something he played for United for? his main talent was in the players lounge after the matches.Bellamy might be a tool but we have the right manager to deal with him, not a manager that spends half his days in a brandy induced haze...  ;)
what manager would that be?

Alex "Rosey Cheeks" Ferguson
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: Over the Bar on February 19, 2007, 10:48:18 AM
If Benitez manages to finish within 10 points of "rosey cheeks" he'll be doing well, never mind win a premier league title.
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: SlimShady on February 19, 2007, 10:54:53 AM
thats a bit rough on Fergie, you'll drive a fair way to find another manager like him.
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: An Fear Rua on February 19, 2007, 10:58:24 AM

Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: Syd The Sailor on February 19, 2007, 11:29:37 AM
Over The Bar......I wonder will it take Fergie another 13 yrs to win the European Cup again.....
Title: seriously
Post by: passedit on February 19, 2007, 11:32:14 AM
Joking aside, Bellamy chose the wrong club for this kind of nonsense.













Ye shoudda used a four iron.
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: Great Leap Forward on February 19, 2007, 11:43:46 AM
Liverpool have had some mad parties in the past, whether it invloves players cavorting with strippers in front of a disgusted Michael Owen or Don Hutchison running round naked apart from a beermat covering his c**k.
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: Over the Bar on February 19, 2007, 11:45:55 AM
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Liverpool have had some mad parties in the past, whether it invloves players cavorting with strippers in front of a disgusted Michael Owen or Don Hutchison running round naked apart from a beermat covering his c**k.

Was it a beer-mat or Stevie G's missus?
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: Over the Bar on February 19, 2007, 11:53:22 AM
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Over The Bar......I wonder will it take Fergie another 13 yrs to win the European Cup again.....

Who's to know sydney? Will liverpool win the title again before their 20th anniversary?
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: Syd The Sailor on February 19, 2007, 12:47:19 PM
Not sure, you will be the first to know. Why dont you fcuk off back over to the Man Utd board.......Whenever youse win 5 of them come back and talk to me or on second thoughts........
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: cavanmaniac on February 19, 2007, 01:12:59 PM
Didn't want to start a new thread on this one, but can any of the Liverpool fans here recommend a good website for getting a tickets, flight and accommodation deal for Liverpool home matches? Wanting to buy for someone as a present but have never gone over before, can anyone help?

Am I better to book flights separately or go for a bundled deal?

Thanks in advance...
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: Norf Tyrone on February 19, 2007, 02:33:28 PM

Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: Farrandeelin on February 19, 2007, 04:32:08 PM
If that's how Liverpool try to prepare to win the European Cup 6 times then so be it... ;)

Farandeelin.....Salford City Reds will not be preparing to win a 6th European Cup in your lifetime.

Well I'm only 19 so there's plenty of time... I bet in 1990 you didn't think we'd be chasing 16 League titles 17 years on!
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: Syd The Sailor on February 19, 2007, 07:41:04 PM
If that's how Liverpool try to prepare to win the European Cup 6 times then so be it... ;)

Farandeelin.....Salford City Reds will not be preparing to win a 6th European Cup in your lifetime.

Well I'm only 19 so there's plenty of time... I bet in 1990 you didn't think we'd be chasing 16 League titles 17 years on!

Well i would have to take issue with that son, in almost 21 years of managing that shower Alex "Lush" Ferguson has won the European Cup precisely once so at this rate you will be getting your arse cleaned in a nursing home by the time you are ready to win it 6 times.......
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: Syd The Sailor on February 20, 2007, 10:02:48 AM
Is Voronin really what we are looking for? 5 goals this season, 6 in 40 appearances for Ukraine. He is not exactly the kind of blue chip player i thought we would be going for with our apparent new wealth.I have a feeling we will be another 8-10 goal a season man and we have enough of those......
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: Gabriel_Hurl on February 20, 2007, 04:21:01 PM
Mascherano cleared to join Reds  (http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/football/teams/l/liverpool/6379977.stm)

Finally

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Javier Mascherano has been cleared to play for Liverpool this season after the Premier League accepted the club's request to register him at Anfield.

The Argentine midfielder, 22, agreed to join the Reds before the close of the transfer window last month.

The deal was held up as the Premier League wanted to assess whether the relationship between club and player was "subject to third-party influence".

But the Premier League is now satisfied the move does not breach its rules.

A statement on the Premier League's website read: "The Premier League has confirmed that the application by Liverpool FC to register Javier Mascherano as a player has been accepted.

"The Premier League is satisfied that the contractual arrangements proposed by Liverpool FC are consistent with its rules; particularly that the relationship between club and player is not subject to third-party influence.

"The Premier League is grateful for Liverpool FC's cooperation and openness at the start and throughout the process."
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: Over the Bar on February 20, 2007, 04:30:26 PM
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Is Voronin really what we are looking for? 5 goals this season, 6 in 40 appearances for Ukraine. He is not exactly the kind of blue chip player i thought we would be going for with our apparent new wealth.

It seems Benitez like his predecessor is very much a quantity rather than quality kinda guy when it comes to buying players. Will be interesting to see if the new owners wish to keep him at the helm come the end of the year.
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: The Real Laoislad on February 20, 2007, 10:29:56 PM







All friends again training in the Nou Camp tonight?
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: J70 on February 21, 2007, 02:03:22 AM
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Is Voronin really what we are looking for? 5 goals this season, 6 in 40 appearances for Ukraine. He is not exactly the kind of blue chip player i thought we would be going for with our apparent new wealth.

It seems Benitez like his predecessor is very much a quantity rather than quality kinda guy when it comes to buying players. Will be interesting to see if the new owners wish to keep him at the helm come the end of the year.

Apparently Voronin has been lined up as a replacement for Fowler, so he must be happy to come in as a back-up. Not the most exciting of signings, that's for sure.

I cannot see how Benitez' position could be in jeopardy though. Who else is going to come in and do a better job? Personally, as a Liverpool fan, I'm perfectly content with his performance so far. He would need to get the team playing from the start next season though.
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: Mayo4Sam on February 21, 2007, 09:17:12 AM
Apparently Riise is out, he's feeling a bit below par. He has got a fairway to go before he's better. Of course, he reckons Bellamy is driving him mad and that he has a huge chip on his shoulder, although that might be putting it mildly. He said he wood be feeling a bit rough in the morning and he was looking a little green, although he'd probably feel better after a sandwedge and some tee.
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: SuperDooperCooper on February 21, 2007, 10:35:30 AM
Firstly, these golfing puns have to stop, they're no longer funny, if they were ever.
Secondly, Eto is out tonight, left out of the squad altogether.
Here hoping for a game as boring as the 0-0 achieved by Houllier in the semi final of the Uefa cup in '01.
Champions League 0-0 in '02 deserves another notable mention (although Liverpool did cross the half way line in '02).
Papers predict a defensive team, had to blame Rafa, last think we want is to be chasing 0-2 score line (or worse) in Anfield.
Was at the Barca - Racing game in the Nou Camp 2 weeks ago, Barca looked awesome that night, a good splattering of Liverpool tops in Barca that night too.
And just for good measure a Dublin top.....I was in a Liverpool top. Locals expect to go through easily enough.
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: The Real Laoislad on February 21, 2007, 10:53:36 AM

Can't wait for tonight and i think it will be more exciting than then time Houlliers team went,Rafa is the Euro tactic's king and i fully expect us to get at the very least a draw but i also fancy us getting the away goal.
Barcelona are in a bit of turmoil at the moment and after watching them sunday night against valencia they looked awful
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: Rossie11 on February 21, 2007, 11:07:06 AM
Pool will never get a better chance to beat the Catalans. I wouldnt use the word turmoil but they are not the team they were last year. The Eto'o situation is damaging but Messi is back and has looked sharp.
The "nutter with the putter" mess may have upset Pools plans as Bellamy would be the ideal player V Barca due to his pace and the the fact that Barca conceded 2 on Sunday to a counter attacking Valencia team.

The one huge worry Pool should have is the fact that the most similar team to Barca they have played all year is Arsenal and received a few tankings..

Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: Gabriel_Hurl on February 21, 2007, 06:48:06 PM
 Alvaro Arbeloa will make his first start for Liverpool against Barcelona in tonight's Champions League last sixteen first leg tie.
The recent signing from Deportivo La Coruna has been named in Rafa Benitez's starting eleven for big clash in the Nou Camp.

Team in full: Reina, Arbeloa, Riise, Agger, Carragher, Finnan, Gerrard, Alonso, Sissoko, Kuyt, Bellamy. Subs - Dudek, Hyypia, Pennant, Crouch, Gonzalez, Mascherano, Zenden.
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: cicfada on February 21, 2007, 08:01:26 PM
Barcelona  1
Liverpool   0

Brilliant goal by Deco, Gerrard pulled out of a tackle and they were in like a flash!!Sorry to all my Liverpool supporting pals here!! :'(
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: cicfada on February 21, 2007, 08:14:44 PM
Half an hour gone and Liverpool will do well to go into the dressingroom only 1 down and then anything can happen in the second half.
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: cicfada on February 21, 2007, 08:28:28 PM
1-1
Terrible goalkeeping by Valdez!
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: stiffler on February 21, 2007, 08:28:49 PM
1 each.....
bellamy!

What a celebration!!
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: Gabriel_Hurl on February 21, 2007, 08:32:12 PM
please tell me he did a golf swing
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: Square Ball on February 21, 2007, 08:34:55 PM
He did, very funny :D
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: Gabriel_Hurl on February 21, 2007, 08:35:18 PM
He was 100-1 to score and do that today
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: stiffler on February 21, 2007, 09:16:23 PM
Bellamy to Riise...2-1!!!
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: Cloc Mor on February 21, 2007, 09:17:01 PM
Well deserved - Riise with his right (foot that is)
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: Syd The Sailor on February 21, 2007, 09:17:42 PM
pick it fuckin out.....
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: cicfada on February 21, 2007, 09:28:51 PM
yeah good goal, you'd have to fancy Liverpool now in the home  leg as well.In fact you'd have to fancy all 4 english teams to advance now to be honest.If there was 1 english team that are fickle mentally it's Utd but they are a goal ahead and an away goal as well!
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: Syd The Sailor on February 21, 2007, 09:37:56 PM
Great result lads, dont think Barcelona will be as bad at Anfield though. I wouldnt swap Benitez for any manager in the world....
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: Gabriel_Hurl on February 21, 2007, 09:40:56 PM
GET the Fcuk in!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Pity it's not here until 3am
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: The Real Laoislad on February 21, 2007, 10:38:11 PM
Fuckin brilliant...Great preformance all round Thought Sissoko was excellent but the yellow card he has is a worry for future rounds if we get through
Riise took his goal well and great celebration from Bellamy
Come on the Pool ;D
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: Syd The Sailor on February 21, 2007, 10:43:35 PM
While basking in a great win my mind wandered back to when beloved Arsenal hammered us in The Rumbelows Cup or whatever its called now, that managerial heavyweight (sacked at Walsall) & cokehead Paul Merson was berating Benitez on Sky for picking a weak team. He said he had lost the plot and said all they had to play for now was the Barcelona matches, Jamie Redknapp piped up that Liverpool could beat Barcelona, at which point the smackhead started pishing himself laughing as if to say "they have no f**king chance".......I wonder does he even know what day it is today???
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: deiseach on February 21, 2007, 11:29:56 PM
Liverpool are going to get battered in the second leg

(Guess who's going to be there to bring his unique brand of hex?)  :-[
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: Armamike on February 21, 2007, 11:46:15 PM
Got a feeling Liverpool will win the return leg quite well.
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: J70 on February 22, 2007, 01:52:26 AM
Very sweet win (keeping the tie alive was my primary wish!), but its far from over. Barcelona are well capable of coming to Anfield and getting the goals they need.
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: Rossie11 on February 22, 2007, 08:48:49 AM
Funny game. Pool winning in the Nou camp and not playing well..
The tie is theirs to lose at this stage. Barca heads dropped when Pool got level, and as long as they didnt get blown away in the 1st half you always fancied Pool to get something out of game. There actually was a 3rd goal there if they were more positive.
They might get a fright or 2 in Anfield but shouldnt blow it.
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: Mayo4Sam on February 22, 2007, 09:04:06 AM
Excellent result last nite and looked like it could have been more at the end but lets not get greedy!
Thought Sissoko was phenomenal last nite, everywhere.
Reina looked dodgy out a few times but got away with it
Thought riise & bellamy both did reasonably well nad worked their socks off.
Can see an anxious second leg if barca get the first goal!
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: Fr Ted on February 22, 2007, 09:22:34 AM
To all those posters who come into this thread to have a go at the mighty reds 'up your fuckin holes'

Sweet sweet victory esp after all the recent who ha over the portugal trip.

According to Johnnie Giles Liverpool did'nt play well with the ball but played very well without it and still managed to beat the reigning CL holders, I'd love to know what he is on
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: Ethan Edwards on February 22, 2007, 09:53:07 AM
I didnt get to see the game, by all accounts we played very well, but how did Arbeloa play in is debut? good signing or not ?
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: Mayo4Sam on February 22, 2007, 09:55:09 AM
Have to disagree with u there Ted, i didn't think Liverpool were overly impressive but really worked hard and harried barca, ronaldinho had 3 people on him everytime he got the ball

Arbelo was good without being fantastic, i would hold him, and not riise at fault for getting sucked into the middle for the goal
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: The Real Laoislad on February 22, 2007, 10:05:14 AM
Arbelo was marking someone though and Riise should really have been covering.Actually looking back on it Riise didn't have one of his better games either did Gerrard or Alonso for that matter.
Carragher was imense and Finnan didn't do much or you could say didn't do much wrong either..Agger wasn't in the game much either but maybe thats more of a testiment to how well Liverpool controlled the game.
Sissoko was excellent and i thought Kyut as per usual worked his socks off without being brilliant to the veiwing television public.Bit like Roy Keane you don't see the work he does until you see a match in person.
Bellamy played well too.Renia is a liability,He seems to lose concetration in the bigger matches,but in his defense he did make a great one on one save from Deco i think?I'd love to Shay Given come to Liverpool probably the most consistent goalie out there
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: Rossie11 on February 22, 2007, 10:37:22 AM
Ted Giles was right Liverpool were poor. The didnt string any passes together and round the middle of 1st half they were getting swamped.The created good chances more out of Barcas shakey defending. It may be harsh to say but they are a better team without the ball.
Alonso wasnt in the game. Gerrard neither. Momo &  Bellamy were the best players and after a very shakey start Arbelo had a good 2nd half.
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: SuperDooperCooper on February 22, 2007, 11:19:49 AM
What a result, Beyond my wildest dreams to steal a Munster rugby phrase.
Have to agree that we didn't play that well but the spirit was there.
Reyna is not a championship winning goalie, he is terrible with crosses, I'd say he needs to come out more then he does and flaps at a cross....
Finnan was excellent, Carra outstanding, Agger solid, Arbelo marked Messi out of it.
Gerrard was in and out, Alonso was effective, Momo was MOTM,Riise didn't have his best game but got the winner.
Bellamy ran his heart out, a great game, finishing still not first class but attitude was last night. Celebration up there with Robbie snorting the goal line....
I'm going to buck the trend slightly with Kyut, I thought he was poor last night, his touch was terrible, never held up the ball, terrible miss on the header and poor control on the lead up to the goal.
Rafa take a bow a great team selection even if we did look under terrible pressure in the first 40 minutes.
One final point, Bara are some shower of diving and moaning bastards, touch them and they do down, Yellows should have been flashed for some dives like Ronnies dive in the box early on.
We picked up a fair few soft yellow card. Tie is a long way from being over though.
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: Syd The Sailor on February 22, 2007, 11:24:16 AM
Have to agree about Riise, has anyone else noticed that he just kicks the ball about 15 yards in front of him and runs like fcuk after it, he does not have the pace to do this & its a bit of a playground move anyway.....He gives the ball away so much. I cant see Barca being as bad again at Anfield.....
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: The Real Laoislad on February 22, 2007, 11:30:46 AM
Agreed about Barcelona diving Zambrotta was the worst at it
Does anyone else think Ronaldhino is overated? What actually makes a great player? Yes he has all the tricks and show boating but he does f**k all when it comes to team work he's a lazy f**ker really
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: Fr Ted on February 22, 2007, 12:36:41 PM
My point being Giles and Co never give Liverpool any credit any time they are on RTE, Brady said he thought Barca would win comfortabley, implying the reds had'nt a hope in hell
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: J70 on February 22, 2007, 01:06:03 PM
My point being Giles and Co never give Liverpool any credit any time they are on RTE, Brady said he thought Barca would win comfortabley, implying the reds had'nt a hope in hell

And I thought it was only United they had it in for! :P

Brady's there to give his opinion and his prediction was hardly that controversial. Predicting results is not an exact science, and when playing to their capabilities and with a bit of unity, Barcelona are probably well ahead of Liverpool.
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: The Real Laoislad on February 22, 2007, 02:37:38 PM
NEWS STORY
BELLAMY: MY BEST MOMENT IN FOOTBALL
Jimmy Rice 21 February 2007 
  Craig Bellamy declared Wednesday night's victory in the Nou Camp his greatest moment in football. 
The Reds achieved an historic win over Barca with strikes from Bellamy and John Arne Riise – an irony not lost on the Welshman.
 
"You couldn't make up what has happened tonight," he said. "I've not been reading the papers so I've not been too bothered what people say.
 
"All I wanted to do was make the most of the special atmosphere and the build up to the game. I've been reasonably lucky in football, playing for my country and other big clubs, but this is my best moment in the game.
 
However, despite two away goals, the striker insists no one at Anfield will be getting carried away.
 
He said: "It was important at the final whistle that we didn't milk the victory. The dressing room was actually quite subdued afterwards. Well, as subdued as it can be after a win at the Nou Camp.
 
"This is a great result but it is only half-time. We've got to go back to Anfield for a completely different game, so as good a result as this is, there's still a long way to go.
 
"I take the rough with the smooth and to be honest I'm a bit gobsmacked tonight - coming here to the Nou Camp was something else. It's also my boy's 10th birthday today so it's just been really special.
 
"We wanted to hold them out for as long as possible but we knew it was going to be difficult. They are a top, top side and the reigning champions of Europe, but we've done a lot of work to prepare for this game and I think you could see that."
 
Meanwhile, Riise paid tribute to Rafa's tactical prowess.
 
He said: "We knew we needed to enjoy it out there and believe in ourselves. To be fair we started the game very well. They scored but we knew that if we worked hard we would get a goal back.
 
"The boss has shown tonight that, tactically, he's one of the best around." 
 
 
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: gawa316 on February 22, 2007, 02:53:44 PM
Feckin' great result, still on a high about it. Once we had the self belief to have ago we showed them up for what they are. How easy do those barca bastards fall over though? I never seen as much diving and theatrics in my life
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: The Real Laoislad on February 23, 2007, 02:32:02 PM
Is Voronin really what we are looking for? 5 goals this season, 6 in 40 appearances for Ukraine. He is not exactly the kind of blue chip player i thought we would be going for with our apparent new wealth.I have a feeling we will be another 8-10 goal a season man and we have enough of those......

Was watching Bayer Lev against Blackburn last night and yer man Voronin was playing.Didn't really see a whole lot to impress me about him to be honest
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: Dubh driocht on February 23, 2007, 07:27:35 PM
Thought the same myself Laoislad but in Rafa we must trust.Anyone booking for Athens?
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: Hound on February 23, 2007, 07:51:24 PM
Voronin has 6 goals in 21 appearances for Leverkusen this season, and at international level he has 5 in 40.

Prolific!

And to top it off he has a lovely blonde pony tail, which is always a good sign...


Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: The Real Laoislad on February 23, 2007, 09:10:33 PM
He looks a bit of a gypo alright!
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: Syd The Sailor on February 23, 2007, 09:21:52 PM
Hes not exactly what we are looking for, we need somebody to give us 20-25 goals a season, i know they sont come cheap but the money should be there now......
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: The Real Laoislad on February 23, 2007, 10:12:33 PM
Anyone in mind? David Villa?
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: corn02 on February 23, 2007, 10:27:12 PM
Of course he is coming on a free transfer so lets gibe it a chance eh?

How come the Mirror gave Gerrard MOTM, I am sick of the media outlet bestowing this honour on him the majority of games even when he has been poor. I would imagine he does be embarressed occassionally about this.

Bellamy and Carragher were super but Momo stood out for me.
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: The Real Laoislad on February 23, 2007, 10:43:34 PM
Gerrard was no man of match the other night defo Carra or Sissoko
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: Gabriel_Hurl on February 24, 2007, 03:37:00 PM
Fowler with 2 peno's
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: Gabriel_Hurl on February 24, 2007, 04:44:01 PM
Sami H - 3 up now
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: Gabriel_Hurl on February 24, 2007, 04:44:48 PM
Gerrard 4-0
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: Syd The Sailor on February 25, 2007, 04:36:14 PM
If a foreign player went down like Gerrard yesterday for the penalties they would have got hauled over the coals......
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: AZOffaly on February 25, 2007, 04:38:40 PM
Definitely the first one. He looked back at the ref, complained about the United player holding on to him, and when the kick came in he engineered a tangle and went down. I defintely call that a dive.
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: Syd The Sailor on February 25, 2007, 05:08:12 PM
Definitely the first one. He looked back at the ref, complained about the United player holding on to him, and when the kick came in he engineered a tangle and went down. I defintely call that a dive.
In fairness i dont care if he does it again on Saturday against the scum.........
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: corn02 on February 25, 2007, 07:24:13 PM
Bad dive for me, Giles thought it was stone wall but I disagree.
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: The Real Laoislad on February 25, 2007, 07:57:26 PM
First was no penalty but i wonder should Crouch have got one anyways for the high kick?
Delighted for Robbie two excellent penos and what a great pass to set up Gerrard,Would definatly hold on to Fowler instead of that Vororin fella next year
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: Syd The Sailor on February 25, 2007, 08:15:19 PM
First was no penalty but i wonder should Crouch have got one anyways for the high kick?
Delighted for Robbie two excellent penos and what a great pass to set up Gerrard,Would definatly hold on to Fowler instead of that Vororin fella next year

I wouldnt even bother signing Voronin, he will just be a squad player. Maybe Benitez just wants him as a squad player and will chase a top striker in the summer, Torres/Villa.......?????
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: J70 on February 25, 2007, 08:19:14 PM
From the angles I've seen, I'm not sure if it was or wasn't a foul. If it was, Gerrard definitely played for it (as he is entitled to do) and the defender obliged him. The problem is that kind of crap goes on all the time at corners but is rarely penalized. In this case, the ref was right there beside them, so the defender should probably have had more sense. That everyone disagrees after watching slow motion replays shows how difficult it can be for the referees though! I don't think there was any doubt about the second one.
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: bingobus on February 26, 2007, 02:02:45 PM
Had a nice wee bet on Robbie for First scorer on Saturday, 5-1 but Bar-one pay again for each subsequent goal the fist scorer scores, so 5-1 became 10-1. Thank you Robbie for that.

Big game this weekend (and I'll do a Fearon if you don't mind, my match ticket arrived on Friday), it looked a bigger game up to the Everton/Newcastle games but against that shower its alaways a big one.

Knowing Rafa he may rest a few with the CL return against Barca onTuesday. I would hope not as after the display at OT this year the players need to get the win. Haven't beat them since 2001 in the league at Anfield (Owen x 2, Riise thuderbolt ). That has to be corrected.
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: The Real Laoislad on February 28, 2007, 02:12:31 PM
Reports today that Robbie Fowler is on his way to the States in the summer to join up with New England Revolution who are coached by former Liverpool legend Steve Nicol
Pity if it's true as Fowler is better than this new fella Vororin
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: brokencrossbar1 on February 28, 2007, 02:29:28 PM
I read that myself.  It has been floating sbout for a week or two and may be part of him securring a final year extension.  If not, and they get E'To I wouldn't be too unhappy.  The Ukrainian is on a free and therefore good business.  He will always make a profit on sale.  Maybe the E'to annoucement is mind games in the build up to next week after Barca did the same with Alonso.  I hope the plan is not to use Alonso as part of the deal to bring E'to
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: Rossie11 on February 28, 2007, 02:59:53 PM
brokencross.. whats the Etoo story??
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: brokencrossbar1 on February 28, 2007, 03:14:35 PM
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Over in Liverpool, meanwhile, Rafa Benítez will bump "best finisher" Robbie Fowler even further down the pecking order by taking Samuel Eto'o off Barcelona's hands. New American owners Tom Hicks and George Gillett are willing to spend the £20m necessary, and Benítez reckons his Spanish contacts could help him beat Arsenal and Chelsea to the punch. He needn't actually worry about Arsenal, to be fair, since Arsène Wenger - rather predictably - is actually after a completely different, cheaper Eto'o - Samuel's brother Etienne, currently playing up front for Mallorca

Taken from today's Guardian.  maybe just paper talk, but who knows?  I added the bit about Alonso myself.
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: corn02 on February 28, 2007, 06:06:31 PM
E'To? Yes please!
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: Rossie11 on March 01, 2007, 09:16:40 AM
£20m would be a steal.
Some factions in Barca believe himself and Ronaldihno cannot play in the same team and have been given the mandate to
sell him. Others want him to stay. It looks like it will become the transfer story of the summer.
I think he is brilliant. Without him Barcas whole attack is static. No surprise when he was back last sunday they had their best performance of the season. An assist and goal before coming off after 60mins.
Should he come through the top of table clash with Sevilla this weekend he is the man Pool need to fear next Tuesday..

Barca would be crazy to sell him but if they do Pool should burst the bank to get him.
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: Fr Ted on March 01, 2007, 09:37:07 AM
Eto would be a great addition to the team, could be the 20 goal a season man that has been missing since fowler and owen (when fit).  But i would take this story wth a pinch of salt, the reds are gonna be linked with every tom, dick and harry now that there appears to be a bit of the the yanky dollar available, although it is nice to seen the reds being linked to big name players again
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: The Real Laoislad on March 02, 2007, 03:15:58 PM
Big one against United tomorrow.
Team selection will be difficult i'd imagine with the Barcelona match coming up i wonder will he risk some players seeing as the Barcelona match has to be regarded as more important
Fowler maybe to start with Crouch? And keep Bellamy and Kuyt for tuesday?
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: The Real Laoislad on March 02, 2007, 03:22:42 PM
Yeah i agree to the fans yes the United game is tops but i can't see Rafa thinking that way,In the context of the rest of the season the Barca game is more important
Though i'd love to beat those United b******S
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: Square Ball on March 02, 2007, 03:27:42 PM
Right

no bravado or crap,  just what do you think the score will be?

Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: brokencrossbar1 on March 02, 2007, 03:29:39 PM
I think Xavi will be rested with sissoko and Gerard in the centre midfield.  He may play Mascerhano on the right to get him game time and to do a spoling job on Giggs with Aurelio on the Left.  Fowler and Kuyt will start up front.  Is Crouch fit after breaking his nose?

I think a win would be ideal but a draw would probably suffice.  Tuesday is a more important game to the overall season as I think they have CL for next year more or less booked.  
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: GalwayBayBoy on March 02, 2007, 03:29:50 PM
I hope he plays our strongest team. He rested a fair few last weekend against Sheff Utd. They should be able to hack playing 2 games at home in 4 days especially as the team has been rotated most of the season.

That said I think he'll leave one or two regulars on the bench.

I want the win though. Haven't beaten these f**kers at home in the league since 2001.

If we play our strongest team I think we might edge it. If not it'll probably be a score draw. maybe 1-1.
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: full back on March 02, 2007, 03:30:53 PM
2-1 to Utd
Rooney & Ronaldo
Fowler pulling 1 back for a penalty following a fowl on Stevie G
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: The Real Laoislad on March 02, 2007, 03:32:11 PM
Right

no bravado or crap,  just what do you think the score will be?



1-1
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: brokencrossbar1 on March 02, 2007, 03:44:17 PM
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Fowler pulling 1 back for a penalty following a fowl on Stevie G

Not only do Utd have all the luck this year but they are taking to throwing chickens at players to stop the scoring goals! ;)

2-1 Liverpool.
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: SlimShady on March 02, 2007, 03:45:19 PM
3 nil United.
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: supersarsfields on March 02, 2007, 03:51:28 PM
Heading on a stag wkend to Newcastle tonight. Half the boys are Liverpool and half united! hould be a great bit o craic. I'm going for a 2-1 Liverpool with goals from Riise and Fowler. Ronaldo to pull one back for united!!
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: The Real Laoislad on March 02, 2007, 03:59:52 PM
Newcastle is excellent make sure and go to Buffalo Joes i think its called,All the waitresses get up and dance on the counter ala coyote ugly
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: SuperDooperCooper on March 02, 2007, 04:01:10 PM
Confession - I hate hate Man U,  from that useless c*nt Gary Neville, to the simpleton that is Rio ferdinand right to the Scottish tosser that is Sir Alex (Up there with Sir Clive).
That said the biggest game Liverpool have this season is Tuesday and not tomorrow. Hand on heart I would take a loss tomorrow with a weakened team to go through on Tuesday night.
In the normal course of events go full blooded at the b@stard but Tuesday night is more important. Hope Chelsea win the league naturally.
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: The Real Laoislad on March 02, 2007, 04:40:24 PM
Can't stand Neville either or Ferdinand talk about being over rated Carragher is far ahead of the great Rio
Honestly though United have two of my favourite players Giggs and Scholes i would have loved to see either play for Liverpool other than that i couldn't think of anyone else who i would have liked to see play for the Pool not even Rooney who i also think is overrated and much hyped by the media
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: heganboy on March 02, 2007, 05:28:00 PM
would rather see Bellamy play with fowler than Kuyt to be honest. He does have a fondness for scoring against united.
Can't really see the win tomorrow, but a draw would be a reasonable result
Title: Liverpool v Barcelona US TV
Post by: dec on March 02, 2007, 05:54:04 PM
http://www.soccertv.com/england.cfm

It is on live on ESPN2

and it is also on ESPN360 http://broadband.espn.go.com/espn360/
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: Syd The Sailor on March 02, 2007, 08:27:31 PM
Can't stand Neville either or Ferdinand talk about being over rated Carragher is far ahead of the great Rio
Honestly though United have two of my favourite players Giggs and Scholes i would have loved to see either play for Liverpool other than that i couldn't think of anyone else who i would have liked to see play for the Pool not even Rooney who i also think is overrated and much hyped by the media
Carragher does what defenders are supposed to do....defend!! Rio would rather prance about like a frustrated midfielder. Rooney is the most overrated player in years, if he was Scottish or Welsh you wouldnt hear half the shite you do about him. As for a temporary loss of form that has been associated with him, i would say no goal in 17 Champions League games is a bit more prolonged than "temporary"......
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: The Real Laoislad on March 03, 2007, 02:46:38 PM
The jammiest of jammy wins for United,But then we only have ourseleves to blame should have been 2 or 3 up at that stage
Im gutted United were awful,and the Pool were all over them God i hate that John O'Shea >:(
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: J70 on March 03, 2007, 02:49:16 PM
Classic smash and grab from United. You have to hand it to them, they defended well and took the only chance they had. League's over.
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: The Real Laoislad on March 03, 2007, 02:50:13 PM
Yeah agreed league over...Roll on Europe now for ourselves
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: GalwayBayBoy on March 03, 2007, 02:57:08 PM
Talk about being mugged. As soon as the free-kick was given I thought they'd pox a winner from it.

Should have won but didn't. Only ourselves to blame. We really need a reliable striker up front to take these chances. Eto'o would be great in the Summer.
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: The Real Laoislad on March 03, 2007, 03:00:35 PM
Sorry lads it's my fault :(  Had just texted a United fan about how boring they were when United scored, I put the Blink on Liverpool
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: Syd The Sailor on March 03, 2007, 04:33:17 PM
If todays match wasnt a perfect illustration of why we need to bust the bank for a top striker i dont know what is.......
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: The Real Laoislad on March 03, 2007, 06:35:46 PM
Yeah they do desreve it,they didn't deserve to win today but thats what it takes to become champions
Top Class striker and two wingers needed Gonzalez and Pennant in my opinion not up to it
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: Syd The Sailor on March 03, 2007, 08:14:03 PM
Yeah they do desreve it,they didn't deserve to win today but thats what it takes to become champions
Top Class striker and two wingers needed Gonzalez and Pennant in my opinion not up to it

Have to agree with you, Gonzalez has the speed of a 100m sprinter but never takes the man on, he always takes the easy way out and plays the ball inside. As for Pennant we had to go for him because we couldnt afford Dani Alves of Sevilla last summer, hopefully the days of having to settle for 2nd rate players are behind us.....
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: FermBoy on March 03, 2007, 08:56:08 PM
Sissoko could do with improvin his first touch and passing, most of it was brual............he near gave it away everytime he got it. If Risse had have been given a better lay off for his freekick he'd have scored, sure he had to stretch to get it!
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: Cloc Mor on March 03, 2007, 08:58:07 PM
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Have to agree with you, Gonzalez has the speed of a 100m sprinter but never takes the man on, he always takes the easy way out and plays the ball inside. As for Pennant we had to go for him because we couldnt afford Dani Alves of Sevilla last summer, hopefully the days of having to settle for 2nd rate players are behind us.....

Going for 2nd rate players makes us a 2nd rate team - which in Premiership terms, we are.
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: J70 on March 03, 2007, 09:00:50 PM
Sissoko was surprisingly poor today, even given the fact that his passing often leaves a lot to be desired.

I thought the substitution of Bellamy was a poor enough decision on Benitez's part, as he was doing a good job winning and holding up the ball out on the wings. Easy to say so in hindsight though.
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: Syd The Sailor on March 03, 2007, 09:03:45 PM
Sissoko could do with improvin his first touch and passing, most of it was brual............he near gave it away everytime he got it. If Risse had have been given a better lay off for his freekick he'd have scored, sure he had to stretch to get it!

For sure, if he could pass the ball he would be unplayable, brilliant tackler, amazing stamina but he couldnt pass water. He gave the ball away nearly every time he got it but he is still young.
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: FermBoy on March 03, 2007, 09:06:43 PM
Ye, Bellamy was a good outlet today...........thought Crouchie should have stuck his head in that last chance.............probably afraid of hitting his nose!
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: Syd The Sailor on March 03, 2007, 09:13:21 PM
Ye, Bellamy was a good outlet today...........thought Crouchie should have stuck his head in that last chance.............probably afraid of hitting his nose!

Bellamy did do well other than his shit pass to Kuyt in the 1st half, but his pace scares the shit out of teams. And its not the kind of running like a f**king headless chicken as Mr Cisse used to do!!He may not be a bright boy off the pitch but he does make clever runs on it.......
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: SlimShady on March 05, 2007, 09:27:03 AM
We won the league on the Mersey, We Won the league on MERSEYSIDE!!  :D ;D
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: Syd The Sailor on March 05, 2007, 09:52:01 AM
We won the league on the Mersey, We Won the league on MERSEYSIDE!!  :D ;D

Slim you seem to be in the wrong thread, i think its the Clontibret one you need...... ;)
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: SlimShady on March 05, 2007, 10:32:14 AM
we won the league on MERSEYSIDE!  ;D
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: blasmere on March 05, 2007, 11:09:17 AM
we won the league on MERSEYSIDE!  ;D

No intelligent debate from slim, he won't even go on to the mu thread , only likes slagging people off, he is as big a muppet as he looks after all, others told me that, now I know what they mean.
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: SlimShady on March 05, 2007, 11:10:54 AM
what is there to debate? my analysis of the game is on the Man United thread if you wish to read it. until then, read this....


We won the league on the mersey, we won the league on Merseyside  :D ;D
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: brokencrossbar1 on March 05, 2007, 11:16:58 AM
Fair enough slim.  This years win will bring Utd up to 16 League titles.  Two more and you will have caught Liverpool, that is unless Liverpool add another one.

Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: SlimShady on March 05, 2007, 11:28:13 AM
Fair enough slim.  This years win will bring Utd up to 16 League titles.  Two more and you will have caught Liverpool, that is unless Liverpool add another one.



 :D ;D


Here we go, its a bit early for the annual 'we're going to win the league next season speech' i have a mate who is a mad Liverpool fan and he's been saying this for the past 12 years or so!!  :D

if the league was won on merseyside 5ive times then it is definitely IN TOPIC!!

come on lads,


ALWAYS LOOK ON THE BRIGHT SIDE OF LIFE!
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: AZOffaly on March 05, 2007, 11:30:27 AM
Jaysus Slim, I was actually hoping United would beat Chelski this season, once Liverpool were out of it (in november!!). You make it very hard though :)
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: SlimShady on March 05, 2007, 11:35:56 AM
do you think i care whether you want Chelski to win or lose?! its the biggest fixture of the premiership season when United play Liverpool, therefore i'm still elated that United came away with the points!

i know it hurts lads, u may just hope Barca dont dump you tomorrow night and you pull United in the Champions League  ;)
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: AZOffaly on March 05, 2007, 11:39:15 AM
I don't give a shite whether you care or not. I'm just making an observation.

And you better be careful in your mouthing off as well. There's f*ck all won in March. It'd be a sad sight if ye won nothing after all this :D
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: brokencrossbar1 on March 05, 2007, 11:46:05 AM
I am under no delusions slim.  It pains me greatly to say it but I, like AZ, wanted ot see Man Utd win it rather than Chelski.  Although it will be tough for Chelsea to get back, it is still very much a possibility so don't get the brasso out just yet.

As regards Saturday, it wasn't the greatest preparation for the infinitley more important game on Tuesday night, but positives can be drawn.  Liverpool are hard to break down and if they can hold Barca for the first 20-25 minutes on Tuesday then a last eight slot is a high likelihood.  Bellamy is playing well as is Kuyt but the need for a prolific goal scorer is becoming more painful as the weeks go on.  Who that is I am not sure, but there must be a poacher of some description unearthed.

A major positive was that Barca actually lost as well and therefore their confidence could have taken a dent.  With talk of internal problems hopefully the game on Tuesday will bring  bit more joy.

I remember when Liverpool were dominating in the early 80's, Man Utd were always the team they struggled against most, even when they had the legends like Peter Davenport.  Saturday was another example of that and I would not read too much into it.  3rd place and a good finish in the CL will be a satisfactory season in my view.
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: SlimShady on March 05, 2007, 11:47:25 AM
indeed, are any of ye wanting a bet?! didnt think so  ;)

having endured the Kop and 'you lost the league on Merseyside' a few years ago me thinks i'm due this gloat!!

incidentally, that year when 'we lost the league on the mersey' we actually ended up winning... could history repeat itself?! hope not!
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: magpie seanie on March 05, 2007, 11:49:00 AM
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There's f*ck all won in March

Exactly. It would be dangerous to read too much into this result. It puts United in a strong position but they are playing poorly.

Still you can't blame United fans for glorying in the result. If the boot was on the other foot the United thread would be full of similar stuff. There weren't too many thread police getting on to Syd the Sailor (hope you enjoyed the result!) when he made his sick Munchen comments.
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: AZOffaly on March 05, 2007, 11:51:40 AM
I thought those Munich comments were sick, and I think they were edited and a warning given as well no?

But you are right, the gloating is part and parcel of it. And we just have to take it on the chin for now, and acknowledge United are deservedly top of the table again.

But it's a long road that has no turn :D
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: SlimShady on March 05, 2007, 11:53:00 AM
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There's f*ck all won in March

Exactly. It would be dangerous to read too much into this result. It puts United in a strong position but they are playing poorly.

Still you can't blame United fans for glorying in the result. If the boot was on the other foot the United thread would be full of similar stuff. There weren't too many thread police getting on to Syd the Sailor (hope you enjoyed the result!) when he made his sick Munchen comments.

Exactly Seanie.

The glee on Gary Nevilles ugly mug was great after the game  :D

He hates scousers you know?  ;)
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: Syd The Sailor on March 05, 2007, 12:07:01 PM
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There's f*ck all won in March

Exactly. It would be dangerous to read too much into this result. It puts United in a strong position but they are playing poorly.

Still you can't blame United fans for glorying in the result. If the boot was on the other foot the United thread would be full of similar stuff. There weren't too many thread police getting on to Syd the Sailor (hope you enjoyed the result!) when he made his sick Munchen comments.

Dont worry Syd The Evil Sailor will appear again, youse can have the league and we will take big ears for a 6th time......First time you meet a decent team you are out on your f**king ear......
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: GalwayBayBoy on March 05, 2007, 12:57:42 PM
Apparently the Hillsborough memorial was defaced according to some of the Liverpool websites. "Murderers. Hillsborough, it should have been more" was spray painted on in the middle of the Friday night but cleaned early Saturday morning before the crowds arrived.

I would have thought that after the events in Lille that the penny might have finally dropped.
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: magpie seanie on March 05, 2007, 01:04:16 PM
What were United fans doing in Liverpool on Friday night?
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: Gabriel_Hurl on March 05, 2007, 01:06:13 PM
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Apparently the Hillsborough memorial was defaced according to some of the Liverpool websites. "Murderers. Hillsborough, it should have been more" was spray painted on in the middle of the Friday night but cleaned early Saturday morning before the crowds arrived.

All clubs have the scum element. Please don't start all this again
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: GalwayBayBoy on March 05, 2007, 01:07:53 PM
What were United fans doing in Liverpool on Friday night?

I presume like any set of fans some will come down the day before to make a night of it.
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: GalwayBayBoy on March 05, 2007, 01:09:29 PM
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Apparently the Hillsborough memorial was defaced according to some of the Liverpool websites. "Murderers. Hillsborough, it should have been more" was spray painted on in the middle of the Friday night but cleaned early Saturday morning before the crowds arrived.

All clubs have the scum element. Please don't start all this again

I'm not starting anything. I just thought it was a bit sad in this day and age especially so close to the Lille incident. I'm under no illusion that most clubs have a sc**bag element following them. Including ourselves.
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: SlimShady on March 05, 2007, 01:28:56 PM
yes, United fans would have been down the night before- of course. The journey is about 45mins down the road but they'd have felt the need to make a night of it!! dont be ridiculous.

making these accusations (if it wasnt you it was some other browned off Liverpool fan) is merely trying to piss on our parade!
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: blasmere on March 05, 2007, 01:31:28 PM
yes, United fans would have been down the night before- of course. The journey is about 45mins down the road but they'd have felt the need to make a night of it!! dont be ridiculous.

making these accusations (if it wasnt you it was some other browned off Liverpool fan) is merely trying to piss on our parade!

Actually, slim a good lot of united's fans come form the south of England and Ireland as well so quite a few of them may have stayed overnight.
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: Syd The Sailor on March 05, 2007, 01:34:11 PM
yes, United fans would have been down the night before- of course. The journey is about 45mins down the road but they'd have felt the need to make a night of it!! dont be ridiculous.

making these accusations (if it wasnt you it was some other browned off Liverpool fan) is merely trying to piss on our parade!

Slim most United fans are coming from further afield than Manchester though  ;) So they maybe did make a night of it. Is that SammyG coming on to say the graffiti was actually misinterpreted...... ;D
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: GalwayBayBoy on March 05, 2007, 01:41:06 PM
yes, United fans would have been down the night before- of course. The journey is about 45mins down the road but they'd have felt the need to make a night of it!! dont be ridiculous.

making these accusations (if it wasnt you it was some other browned off Liverpool fan) is merely trying to piss on our parade!

Well maybe it was Everton fans (although highly unlikely as they don't bang on about Hillsborough as some of them had relatives who died there).

I do believe it was already condemned on RedCafe already.

Maybe it was just Liverpool fans who did it themselves?

Who knows?

Unfortunately the nasty element that follow both clubs tend to surface at this fixture every year.
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: SuperSub on March 05, 2007, 01:42:26 PM
yes, United fans would have been down the night before- of course. The journey is about 45mins down the road but they'd have felt the need to make a night of it!! dont be ridiculous.

making these accusations (if it wasnt you it was some other browned off Liverpool fan) is merely trying to piss on our parade!

Cop onto yourself ya fool,Galwaybaybhoy was only stating how wrong it was that this was done, he wasn't trying to get back at united coz they won on saturday,Whoever done this hasn't much sense or morals,same as the Liverpool fans who wrote stuff about Munich on the seats in Old Trafford that was just as wrong

Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: SlimShady on March 05, 2007, 01:50:56 PM
it may be the case that Old Trafford holds United fans from far flung places but their away fans are mostly from Manchester!

yes, it was wrong that this happened (if it did) but GBB (and whoever firstly made up the story) was simply trying to dampen down the spirits of Uniteds win by coming out with it on here.

i mean, f**k sake- who in their right mind would be at it? for fear of being caught if nothing else!
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: SuperSub on March 05, 2007, 02:03:32 PM
Really don't think this was Galwaybaybhoys intention,And if he really wanted to rain on your parade would he not have posted it in the United thread?
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: GalwayBayBoy on March 05, 2007, 02:05:07 PM
it may be the case that Old Trafford holds United fans from far flung places but their away fans are mostly from Manchester!

yes, it was wrong that this happened (if it did) but GBB (and whoever firstly made up the story) was simply trying to dampen down the spirits of Uniteds win by coming out with it on here.

i mean, f**k sake- who in their right mind would be at it? for fear of being caught if nothing else!

I doubt the story is fabricated. There things happen when the two sides meet unfortunately. It was on some of the Liverpool forums since yesterday morning and no doubt next time at Old Trafford the Liverpool fans will probably destroy the toilets or something equally stupid.

You could get away with it up at Anfield though. Most of the houses behind and to the side the Anfield Road end (where the away fans sit and the Hillsborough memorial is) are derelict. There isn't many people around there even in the middle of the day let alone in the middle of the night.

Anyway don't want to keep banging on about it.
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: Gabriel_Hurl on March 05, 2007, 02:14:27 PM
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no doubt next time at Old Trafford the Liverpool fans will probably destroy the toilets or something equally stupid.

Didn't they already do that at last year's Cup Semi-Final
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: SuperSub on March 05, 2007, 02:17:47 PM
Yeah they did and it was wrong and they were scumbags that done it,Same as the scumbags who done this to the Hillsborough memorial
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: Gabriel_Hurl on March 06, 2007, 12:48:32 PM
I'm bricking it today - our biggest game since Istanbul
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: Syd The Sailor on March 06, 2007, 12:53:52 PM
I have a feeling there might be a nasty sting in the tail tonight.... :(
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: lurganblue on March 06, 2007, 12:57:02 PM
looking forward to watching this game tonight although i support neither team. i have a feeling that barca might just nick it with the return of Eto'o...

what do ya's think liverpools tactics will be? will crouch start up front as more of a target man to relieve pressure and hold it up as liverpool sit back? or will they push on from the start for another goal?
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: full back on March 06, 2007, 01:04:52 PM
I have a feeling there might be a nasty sting in the tail tonight.... :(

Here's hoping Syd ;)
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: Ethan Edwards on March 06, 2007, 01:40:32 PM
Liverpool have the defensive capabilities to withstand the Bara attack but we cant sit back and allow them time and space to come at us, best form of defense is attack, I think if we control midfield we will win the tie,
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: SuperDooperCooper on March 06, 2007, 01:57:35 PM
Interesting game tonight alright, without doubt the biggest game of the season. I would go with the same team as Saturday with Riise on the wing and aballerdo at left back. Basically the team that started in Spain. Liverpool are playing good stuff, Bellamy only came off against united to rest for tonight. The goal last Saturday will have wiped away any over confidence. Close Barca down and we win. Set pieces will be key. I think (rather than hope) we will be in the hat on Friday. 2-0 to the pool.
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: Rossie11 on March 06, 2007, 01:58:14 PM
Pool should hold on but if they concede in 1st half then it will be nervy.
If Pool happen to score and frustrate them you could see Barca collapse. They are fairly fragile at the moment and
should things not go their way the internal problems which they are having will surface..
Were a goal up, a man up and had a peno V Seville on Saturday.. Missed the pen had 2 men sent off and lost 2-1..

Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: Fr Ted on March 06, 2007, 04:09:39 PM
Have faith lads, rafa will see us through, bound to have more luck than we did on saturday against the mancs, i hope we stick with Bellamy and Kuyt up front, more of a threat than the leaning tower of pisa
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: The Real Laoislad on March 06, 2007, 04:24:09 PM
Bit nervous over this i have a bad feeling in me tummy but that might just be the curry i had at lunch!!
Im going 1-1 with the Pool winning 3-2 overall though i wouldn't be surprised if it went all the way to penaltys
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: GalwayBayBoy on March 06, 2007, 06:40:38 PM



The Rafatola is being paraded up to Anfield.
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: Gabriel_Hurl on March 06, 2007, 06:59:46 PM
Rafa Benitez has named the same side that beat Barcelona 2-1 in the Nou Camp a fortnight ago for tonight's Champions League last 16 Second Leg at what's sure to be a rocking Anfield.
That means Alvaro Arbeloa returns to the defence, where he's joined by Jamie Carragher, Daniel Agger and Steve Finnan. Rafa has opted for Dirk Kuyt and Craig Bellamy up front and he'll be hoping they can cause the Barca defence problems again.
 
Liverpool - Reina, Finnan, Arbeloa, Carragher, Agger, Riise, Gerrard, Alonso, Sissoko, Kuyt, Bellamy. Subs - Dudek, Hyypia, Crouch, Pennant, Aurelio, Mascherano, Zenden.
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: Dubh driocht on March 06, 2007, 07:39:41 PM
The right team-let's get the right result!
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: Syd The Sailor on March 06, 2007, 07:44:43 PM
Yep lets get wired into the greasy fucks......
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: ExiledGael on March 06, 2007, 07:54:43 PM
Impressive start from the Pool, Benitez is too shrewd to blow this i think
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: heganboy on March 06, 2007, 08:06:21 PM
Don't ike the way these yellows are building up, and reina looks ropey
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: heganboy on March 06, 2007, 09:17:41 PM
18 minutes left, barca move to a 2-4-4 formation. Gudjonsen pulls one out of nowhere 1-0 barca
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: ExiledGael on March 06, 2007, 09:18:23 PM
Ohh Scousers are bricking it now!!
Wouldn't you know Eidur the Chelsea bastard
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: Goats Do Shave on March 06, 2007, 09:20:04 PM
"Squeaky bum!!"

Rafa has brought this on himself! He took Bellamy (the main threat!) off against UTD also!!

Confused there heganboy...I thought it was extra time & if the result stayed the same 'pool were through!
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: heganboy on March 06, 2007, 09:35:56 PM
Liverpool through, full time where were you getting extra time from?
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: Goats Do Shave on March 06, 2007, 09:36:24 PM
Good Result!
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: Syd The Sailor on March 06, 2007, 09:39:03 PM
f**king great result, there is no one to fear now.....
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: ExiledGael on March 06, 2007, 09:46:16 PM
Not a Pool fan but Carragher, Finnan and Agger were excellent, Sissoko's type of game too.
Inter match marred by mass brawl at the end incidentaly
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: GalwayBayBoy on March 06, 2007, 09:47:56 PM
Great to be through.

Should have been 2 or 3 up at half-time. We really need to start taking our chances and a top striker in the Summer.

We were comfortable in the second half until Arebola played Gudjonsen onside. Was always going to be nervy after that.

Dunphy now going through us for a shortcut. Considering we were written off completely when the draw was made I think he's got some neck.
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: ExiledGael on March 06, 2007, 09:51:01 PM
Anybody else watching the inter valencia fight?? its serious stuff, bound to be big trouble for this, still fighting in the tunnel 10 minutes later
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: Syd The Sailor on March 06, 2007, 09:54:04 PM
Great to be through.

Should have been 2 or 3 up at half-time. We really need to start taking our chances and a top striker in the Summer.

We were comfortable in the second half until Arebola played Gudjonsen onside. Was always going to be nervy after that.

Dunphy now going through us for a shortcut. Considering we were written off completely when the draw was made I think he's got some neck.

Dunphy is a drunken kn**ker so we will not worry too much about him....I know everyone keeps mentioning this but we really need a top striker in the summer.....Just to digress anyone that is a Liverpool fan has to read "A season on the brink" by Guillem Balague (Skys Spanish Football Correspondent), it goes behind the scenes of 2004/05, i have just finished it and its only about £6 on www.play.com Benitez worked for 22hrs steady in one day before the Chelsea semi final match at Anfield !!!
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: Gabriel_Hurl on March 06, 2007, 10:03:33 PM
Dunphy can go and fcuk off - it it had have been United and his "beloved" Roy doing that tonight - he'd be all different
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: Square Ball on March 06, 2007, 10:11:58 PM
Anybody else watching the inter valencia fight?? its serious stuff, bound to be big trouble for this, still fighting in the tunnel 10 minutes later

Seen it, an absolute disgrace. The fracas in the Carling cup final was handbags when compared to this. the Valencia reserve keper came running on a punched a Inter player in the face, he done a runner with 3 players after him, fight in the tunnel, dressing room, ayala, Figo and all semed to be having a go. must be something done to Inter as they always get away with this type of behaviour.
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: Syd The Sailor on March 06, 2007, 10:14:53 PM
I wonder would there have be a few more "imposter" people posting tonight from a different thread if things hadnt went our way tonight???? I bet the slabbers were running out of their mouth at the thought of it..... Just a thought......
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: bingobus on March 06, 2007, 10:21:56 PM
Dunphy, Giles and "I love Barca" Brady can go and shite. Did they expect a red carpet and a round of applause for the fancy flicks and tricks. They get stuffed.

No credit whatsoever for comfortably beating the reigning champions over two legs. It may have been nervy after the goal but they weren't flying shots in or making the keeper work too much.

Delighted to go through, not scoring when we should have made it more difficult that it should be. A quality striker is needed in summer but we have a better team than we had two years ago.

Bring anyone on.

Carra, Agger and Finnan immense.
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: AZOffaly on March 06, 2007, 10:22:10 PM
Blessed at the end to hang on and there was absolutely no need for it. First half was quite good, but I definitely thought Benitez blew it in the second half. Going with one up front was absolutely begging Rijkaard to take off a defender and go with 4 up top. When the four are Messi, Giuli, Ronaldinho and Gudjohnsen, there's always a likelihood that they will score, especially when the ball comes back as quick as Liverpool were clearing it because there was no one up front to hold it up.

Great performances from Finnan, Carra and Agger, and good displays from Sissoko (without the ball!) and Gerrard at times. Riise was also one of our better players.

I am a little concerned about the direction LFC are taking though. One of Bob Paisley's truisms was to 'take care of the little things and the big things will take care of themselves'. He meant that if you put in the hard work, and pass the ball and move to get the return pass, the results will look after themselves. And if the results look after themselves, the titles and trophies follow.

Liverpool do not seem to have moved on much *with the ball* in the past 5 years or so. Very rarely do you see concentrated possession in European games against the best teams, which always leads to pressure coming back on us. Paisley would be turning in his grave at some of the 'passing' that LFC engage in in these games. It's just a credit to the team's fighting spirit and workrate that this carelessness does not cost them dearly every time they play. That game should have been all over at half time, not only with the chances they missed, but if LFC passed the ball correctly, that Barca back line would have crumbled.

However, not to be too negative on the night, it's a great, great result over the two legs, and a massive scalp to take, notwithstanding Barca's current problems, so well done to Rafa and the lads, but improvement is needed.

Also, I think LFC should break the bank to get Villa, Eto'o, Torres or someone like that. Even playing the way they are, they are making chances, and they have got to take them to win games, points and titles.
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: The Real Laoislad on March 06, 2007, 10:45:55 PM
phewwwwwwwwwwwwwww just changed my boxers!!!!!!!

Great too be through we deserved it over the two legs.Dunphy and co must have been watching a different game we should have been 3 or 4 up at half time and could have got two in the second
We done enough to get through and i reckon if United do the same tomorrow night Dunphy will say their class
What did he expect Liverpool couldn't keep up that pace for the whole match and it would have been foolish to keep chasing it when we didn't need too.Would Dunphy think it be better if we had attacked the whole game and lost 4-0 than to be a bit more defensive in the second half and be through to the next round
Great preformances from Carragher,Finnan and Gerrard and many others
Delighted but bit worried we have created so many chances the last two games but didn't score
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: The Real Laoislad on March 07, 2007, 12:34:58 AM
Is the draw on friday a open draw or seeded? Good chance that Liverpool,Celtic,Man U,Chelsea and Arsenal will all be in it that would be something else..
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: Norf Tyrone on March 07, 2007, 07:13:10 AM
Only seen snippets of the Liverpool game out of the corner of my eye in the pub, but yousons looked well in control in the first half, and should've been 2,3 up. Good result over the 2 legs though.

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Is the draw on friday a open draw or seeded? Good chance that Liverpool,Celtic,Man U,Chelsea and Arsenal will all be in it that would be something else..

Open draw, no country protection or nothing. I have a feeling it'll be your good selfs Chelsea will face, however at this stage I'd prefer Valencia, or Lille.....anyone will do though.
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: Timothy Leary on March 07, 2007, 07:43:46 AM
I've preface this by saying that I don't follow any team in England or anywhere else, although I  always like to see all the English teams winning in Europe. I watched the second half last night and forgetting about the football, I thought the crowd were magnificent, great atmosphere, and the flag and scarf waving at the end was a great spectacle. This never seems to happen at Man Utd, Chelsea or Arsenal games, I'm just wondering why?

BTW was that the fields of Athenry the fans were singing or were they changing the Athenry bit, I just couldn't make it out?
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: full back on March 07, 2007, 08:14:43 AM
Dunphy can go and fcuk off - it it had have been United and his "beloved" Roy doing that tonight - he'd be all different

To be fair, he has be slabbering of about Utd as well in recent times, so dont go thinking it is just the 'Pool getting the sh1t.

I noticed that as well last about the Fields Of Athenry, the supporters seemed to be changing certain parts of it  ???
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: Over the Bar on March 07, 2007, 08:24:44 AM
Would you like the loan of John O'Shea to put the ball in the net for you? :P
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: deiseach on March 07, 2007, 08:56:08 AM
I haven't lost my bottle so badly at a match since the Worthington Cup final in Cardiff against the Mancs. I could barely stand for the first twenty minutes of the second half, I was so nervous. Still, it was all worth it for the moment right at the end when Pennant earned a free right under the Kop. We all realised any free here was going to soak up at least thirty seconds so it was effectively game over and the ground just erupted. Then it was over. Fantastic.
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: Declan on March 07, 2007, 09:01:34 AM
It was like watching Ireland during the Charlton era again. Great without the ball but couldn't pass water. Whats happened to Alonso?
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: Syd The Sailor on March 07, 2007, 09:07:16 AM
Dunphy can go and fcuk off - it it had have been United and his "beloved" Roy doing that tonight - he'd be all different

To be fair, he has be slabbering of about Utd as well in recent times, so dont go thinking it is just the 'Pool getting the sh1t.

I noticed that as well last about the Fields Of Athenry, the supporters seemed to be changing certain parts of it  ???

Its the "Fields of Anfield Road" they sing, not Athenry.....
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: SuperDooperCooper on March 07, 2007, 09:15:23 AM
RTE panel sicken me to be honest. Liverpool murdered Barca in the first half, very unlucky not to be 2-3 up. Picked up a few booking (deserved) but Barca not picking up booking for the same fouls. Thurman should have walked for the elbow in the second half. Liverpool had all the chances yet at the end you swear Barca were unlucky to lose listening to those moppets. RTE is MUTV2, they always show that useless shower no matter who they are playing (game v Lille tonight for example, tie is over and not to show the Arsenal game is shocking).
If Man U has Keane playing and put in the same performance last night, Dunphy, Brady and Giles would have had multiple orgasms in the studio.
Barca are European champions, Spanish champions and joint top of La Liga they were bound to have chances last night yet I can only remember three chances for them, the goal (Pennant (who had a mare when on) slipped to let Eider in, Ronnie's shot after the goal and Ronnie's shot off the post.
We were very nervy after the goal but in the last 8 minutes (85-93) the ball was in the Barca half and we were still creating chances... Would have preferred pennant to go to the corner and waste time rather than put in crossed in the end of the game.
Kuyt was a disappointment against last night doesn't seem to have the pace/vision for this level will have to spend the dollars in the summer to get two top class strikers, Bellamy was good again last night and shouldn't have been taken off. Finnan, Agger and Cara were outstanding....
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: Fr Ted on March 07, 2007, 09:28:30 AM
Bless me father for i am about to sin, but thank christ thats over,

Another famous result over the two legs to take the scalp of Barca.  After the comments made by the Utd fan club on RTE during the last game i watched the game on ITV, flicked over at half time and heard the same shite over again, don't think i'll watch anymore CL games on RTE when the pool are involved.

The pool really need and goal getter, i don't agree with the comments about Kuyt, though he worked very hard for the team although at times he was very deep.

I was a bit confused with the Subs, as i feel they actually made the team weaker and encouraged barca to come on to us, but as i said before in rafa we trust, he is the man
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: Syd The Sailor on March 07, 2007, 09:29:23 AM
I know everyone has been talking about Carraghers performance this season, and rightly so, but i think Agger is turning out to be a great buy. He was immense again last night.
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: Rossie11 on March 07, 2007, 09:30:00 AM
Great to be in next round but it was nervy. Pool seemed to run out of gas. With all the chances they missed
they looked like they would get caught.

To be fair to RTE pundits they are football fans firstly. They like to see flowing football.
I think they were frustrated that a team playing like liverpool can knock out a team who try and play the "correct" way.

Hand on heart I would prefer see Liverpool play completely different than they way they are.
Its good to win and qualify but its not pretty.
If the end justifys the means then fair enough but its not the way I would like to see football/liverpool continue to develope.



Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: magpie seanie on March 07, 2007, 09:32:10 AM
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No credit whatsoever for comfortably beating the reigning champions over two legs.

I didn't see the game but you could hardly describe an away goals win as comfortable! Also, the reported criticism by Giles, Dunphy and co seems to be valid from some of the comments here. They aren't often wrong. If you want cheerleaders switch over to SKY or ITV or BBC.

If United go through Liverpool would be a nightmare draw all the same.
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: AZOffaly on March 07, 2007, 09:34:00 AM
Lads, I know the RTE Panel are always OTT, but they are the same to every team. Remember the slating they gave United last year? And Arsenal?

I think they are not too far off the mark, but they lose people because they are too aggresive about it.
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: full back on March 07, 2007, 09:36:48 AM
FFS will all the Scouse supporters wise up.
Ye got your result & fair play to ye, but stop bleating about the pundits on RTE.
Some on here are starting to sound like Jose 'we dont get the praise we are due'.
If you want someone to blow your trumpet listen to Jamie 'I have no feckin opinion & always sit on the fence' Redknapp.
So enjoy the result and stop this bullsh1t
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: aontroim on March 07, 2007, 09:51:55 AM
Despite the 1 goal defeat Liverpool were immense last night once again in Europe - Sissoko will be a big loss in the first leg of the 1/4-Final despite his penchant for clumsy tackling.  Just need a little more luck with the attempts on goal - how they didnt score last night is hard to fathom - sissoko's reaction effort particularly noteworthy.
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: Syd The Sailor on March 07, 2007, 09:57:14 AM
FFS will all the Scouse supporters wise up.
Ye got your result & fair play to ye, but stop bleating about the pundits on RTE.
Some on here are starting to sound like Jose 'we dont get the praise we are due'.
If you want someone to blow your trumpet listen to Jamie 'I have no feckin opinion & always sit on the fence' Redknapp.
So enjoy the result and stop this bullsh1t

You would never get anyone from Man Utd bleating about the coverage they get, oh thats right Alex "I love the sauce" Ferguson doesent speak to BBC anymore......
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: magpie seanie on March 07, 2007, 09:59:39 AM
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You would never get anyone from Man Utd bleating about the coverage they get, oh thats right Alex "I love the sauce" Ferguson doesent speak to BBC anymore

In fairness there is no-one in RTE to compare with that turd Alan Greene. He absolutely detests United. Actually, cvome to think of it - Syd - are you Alan Greene?
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: Goats Do Shave on March 07, 2007, 10:02:45 AM
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Liverpool murdered Barca in the first half

Such an unfortunate phrase to use!

Liverpool's best players on the night were defenders...says it all really!
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: Over the Bar on March 07, 2007, 10:11:31 AM
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In fairness there is no-one in RTE to compare with that turd Alan Greene

Alan Green is so biased it maked him funny to listen to.  He turns into a gibbering idiot when Liverpol score and crys like a spoilt schoolboy when they come undone.  Everyone other than Liverpool & England fans detest the sight of him.
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: Fr Ted on March 07, 2007, 10:12:18 AM
There was a lot at stake last night, barca needed to score al least twice to go through, so l'pool did'nt have to go chasing the game, and could afford to let barca have the ball in there own half but once they came over the half way line they were put under pressure, l'pool took the game to barca in the 1st 20mins, but after that they kept things tight.

Barca are probabley the best team in eurpoe at the minute, on paper the barca team were alot better than what we had, so to put barca out is a massive result.

It will be interesting in the summer to see what top class players rafa can buy to take l'pool to the next level any challange for the league.
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: Billys Boots on March 07, 2007, 10:14:53 AM
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I think they are not too far off the mark, but they lose people because they are too aggresive about it.

Well I like them because they tell it like they think it is, and are far removed from what passes for analysis on BBC/ITV/Sky.  To call them Utd fans is rubbish - Dunphy does have it in his pants for Keane, but Keane's not playing any more so that's irrelevant.  They did a very thorough (and analytical) hatchet-job on Ronaldo recently, and they were saying last night (what I've been saying for years) that Gerrard was rubbish.  Can you imagine that anywhere else?  Of course Liverpool did a job last night, and they repeated that over-and-over; their point was that they could have made it easier on themselves against an off-form Barcelona side - anyone who disagrees with that would want to get a grip.
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: Syd The Sailor on March 07, 2007, 10:18:12 AM
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You would never get anyone from Man Utd bleating about the coverage they get, oh thats right Alex "I love the sauce" Ferguson doesent speak to BBC anymore

In fairness there is no-one in RTE to compare with that turd Alan Greene. He absolutely detests United. Actually, cvome to think of it - Syd - are you Alan Greene?

No im not but i do detest Salford Reds, i wont be skipping through the meadows hand in hand with the rest of youse. Have always hated them and always will.....
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: brokencrossbar1 on March 07, 2007, 10:20:36 AM
A few things about last night.  I didn't see the first half but listened to it on 5 Live.  To hear it there Liverpool were all over them, first 10 mins especially.  Bellamy seemed to cause a lot of problems with his pace and Riise seemed to have the freedom of the left side of the field the amount of times he was on the ball.  The amount of times that Carrageher seemed to be the last man clearing the ball was unreal.  Kids may love the big names like Gerrard but BC1 jnr told me last night when he grows up and playes for Liverpool he wants to be like Jamie Carragher.  Like a good wine he is improving with age.   I have said it before and will say it again Agger seems to be the real deal and has a huge future if looked after.  Finnan is very Denis Irwin like and that is enough of a compliment in my book.

I have to seriously disagree with Grumpy over his absurd analysis of Gerrard.  He may not have been spectactular last night but he got through a lot of work and could have had 1 if not 2 goals if he didn't try to knock the keeper into the Kop.  Alonso was quiet, Riise tired a lot inthe second half but seemed to have a great first half.  After a very promising start to his Liverpool career I am havin my doubts over Sissoko.  Sure he is a great ball winner and worker, but does this compensate for the amount of times he gives the ball away through poor control or bad pacing.  With two excellent ball players beside him in Alonso and Gerrard he has to just give the ball to them and sit his ground in the middle.  With him being suspended for the next game, this will need a re-jigging with ,I presume either Pennant or Mascerhano coming in.  The next few games should be used to blend either of them in, and preferably Javier.  from what I have seen of him he could be a major acquisition and give that wee bit more than Sissoko in the ball playing side of things.


The lack of final cutting edge is the killer at the minute.  Both Bellamy and Kuyt are good palyers for different reasons and would be ideal if yoy blend the two of them into one.  I agree that Kuyt has not the pace but he certainly has the bility and awareness to play at the very highest level.  Bellamy's pace is brilliant as is his agressive approach but he has to become a bit smarter in his runs.  To become top class team a better left back and an out and out goal scorer are required.

Barca were not up to their best but they are still top of the Spanish league and have some of the best players on the planet playing for them.  Liverpool had a job to do and did it.  Like the Manure fans retroting about this being the worst Premiership Liverpool only have to beat what is before them.  They did this and fo rabout 100 mins of the 180 mins of the two games where the better team. 
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: GalwayBayBoy on March 07, 2007, 11:59:53 AM
Personally I always switch over to RTE for analysis but I found them to be completely OTT and ridiculous in their analysis of the match last night. When the draw was made Liverpool were completely written off by virtually everyone and yet when they still manage to knock out Barcelona they get slated to high heaven.

At half-time they were effusive with their praise. Liverpool could easily have been 3 up as they constantly attacked Barcelona. However when you're playing a team like Barcelona they are always going to get a period of 15 to 20 minutes in a game when they are just going to knock the ball around and make you chase after it and that's what happened in the second half. Despite this they only created their goal and Ronaldinho's effort that hit the post in the entire game. The goal being a c**k up by Arebola who didn't step up and played Gudjonsen onside. All the while Liverpool were still forcing the Barcelona keeper to make saves so it wasn't like Liverpool were sitting back at the edge of their box.

Then we get Brady at the end seemingly nearly in tears that Barcelona were knocked out. Giles in a huff too and Dunphy going ballistic slating Gerrard (who I thought played pretty well), Benitez and the whole team in general. The only thing I could agree with them was that Bellamy shouldn't have been taken off with 10 mins to go. At one point Dunphy goes "that's it, I've made my mind up about Benitez" and sure you know he'll probably be his biggest fan again in a couple of weeks.

He slags off off Benitez but nothing said about Rikjaards clueless performance over both legs? In fact, they analyse one half at a time. At the end, the entire tie (both legs) was condensed into the second half of the second leg in their eyes.

Great entertainment but a couple of wind up merchants.
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: deiseach on March 07, 2007, 12:11:58 PM
Rijkaard was very generous to Liverpool.

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We won this leg but maybe we were lucky considering the amount of chances they created in the first half. We tried everything possible and I am proud of the spirit and effort my players put in. They worked hard and tried everything but Liverpool are a difficult team to play against. They are strong and mentally tough. That is the way it goes. Sometimes it is like that in football however hard you try. I can only congratulate Liverpool, they are a vigorous side and for the neutral it must have been a game full of good attacking football. From Liverpool it was a great performance. Their style is very difficult to play against. We tried everything, although we were not at our best. We fought to the very last seconds but Liverpool were highly motivated and they defended in such a way to stop us getting close to their goal. Anfield is such a difficult place to play in, so we are out, but I was very impressed with the spirit and fight we showed. I now expect to see that for the rest of the season.

Clearly on the way out.
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: full back on March 07, 2007, 12:21:08 PM
The goal being a c**k up by Arebola who didn't step up and played Gudjonsen onside.

Was it Pennant who didnt step up?
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: GalwayBayBoy on March 07, 2007, 12:24:10 PM
The goal being a c**k up by Arebola who didn't step up and played Gudjonsen onside.

Was it Pennant who didnt step up?

Think Pennant slipped. Arebola was playing him onside at the far end.
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: AZOffaly on March 07, 2007, 01:05:54 PM
But GBB, I think they are right to criticise Liverpool when thye have the ball. We gove it away so often it's crazy. It's something that has to change. I already mentioned that I thought at the time that Benitez' substitution to go 4-5-1 (or 4-4--1-1) was bananas. It invited Barca on to them. And that was longer than 10 minutes to go. It was before they got their goal I thought.

Liverpool have many admirable qualities. They are brave, they battle and they are full of energy when they attack. The quality is still missing going forward though, and LFC will not win a title until that is addressed in my opinion.

Of course RTE's panel are OTT, but they are OTT, hyper critical, about everything.
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: deiseach on March 07, 2007, 01:09:24 PM
Of course RTE's panel are OTT, but they are OTT, hyper critical, about everything.

True. Dunphy was asked after Liverpool beat Olympiakos in 2005 whether Liverpool could win the European Cup. "No chance!" barked Amoan. More please.
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: GalwayBayBoy on March 07, 2007, 01:18:25 PM
By the way for all the criticism he gets does anyone think we've been missing Garcia since his injury? The little fella drives me mental at times but he's fantastic at drifting into scoring positions and he's one of the best finishers at the club. It's tight games like the last two where he would have popped up in the box to slide one home. Even if he was just coming off the bench.
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: bingobus on March 07, 2007, 01:20:48 PM
What annoys me about the 3 RTE panel members more than anything is that while they are all outspoken and OTT they never disagree which each other to any great extent. I know plenty of people like this and they are all fine people but put any three of them in a room, give them any topic and they'll disagree about it on a range of issues.

Them 3 wait for the first to speak and then all pull in behind them. Only Bill dares to disagree and they normally respond "we played football, blah, blah, blah...."

Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: AZOffaly on March 07, 2007, 01:21:05 PM
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By the way for all the criticism he gets does anyone think we've been missing Garcia since his injury?

No.

I know what you are saying, and we can't deny he scored some vital goals, especially in Europe, but he is one of the WORST culprits at giving the ball away. I want Liverpool to go back to the pass and move game. Retain possession, pull teams around with clever passing, and take opportunities when they arrive. Garcia treats the ball as if it will give him a disease.
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: AZOffaly on March 07, 2007, 01:22:47 PM
Ah bingobus, I think there are plenty of occassions when the RTE panel disagree. Brady and Dunphy regularly fall out, and Giles and Dunphy don't speak to each other off air since the Roy Keane situation. I think the reason that they agree most of the time is that they tend to be fairly much on the ball. The problem is how far 'over the ball' they go.
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: Rossie11 on March 07, 2007, 01:41:18 PM
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pull teams around with clever passing
Thats not going tp happen with the current crop. Garcia for all his faults has a passing football brain.
He is the one player who can play a clever pass. More often than not he irritates but at times you think he is thinking too far ahead for his team mates..
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: brokencrossbar1 on March 07, 2007, 01:51:13 PM
Garcia is an annoying wee bollix and they are better without him than they are with him him.  I firmly believe if they had one more top class defender and a goal scorer they would be an excellent team.  Also a change in formation could see them playing better too.  Instead of playing 4-4-2 if they had Hyppia(or another top class defender) in alongside Carra and Agger with Riise and Finnan as wing backs, Alonso and Sissoko or Mascherano as the holding midfield players with Gerrard in an advanced midfield role with Kuyt and Bellamy(or a new striker) I think they would be much better.  You would have Gerrard where he can cause most damage, and the balance would be better than it is at the minute.
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: Farrandeelin on March 07, 2007, 01:52:57 PM
Those RTE boys are way OTT about everything. Really, listen to them tonight about the Utd players and all you'll hear is Ronaldo's crap, as is Carrick, as is Ferdinand, as is Saha, as is all the Utd players who haven't played in the treble season (apart from Rooney). It sickens my hole the way they are always OTT about everything.
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: Rossie11 on March 07, 2007, 01:57:50 PM
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I firmly believe if they had one more top class defender and a goal scorer they would be an excellent team
Do you not think that last night showed that our midfield completely lacks a footballing brain??
Am very disappointed with Alonsos form at the moment.
The 2 goals we got in the Nou camp were defensives errors..
Yes we hit the bar twice last night but it wasnt creativity that made the chances..
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: brokencrossbar1 on March 07, 2007, 02:07:07 PM
Alonso is playing poorly at the minute but that doesn't mean he is not a good player.  I have seen him dictate games with his range of passing, and I sometimes feel that because so much has to go through Gerrard that Alonso's game suffers.  I think he has the footballing brain to be the one who makes things happen.  I would be more concerned about how much Sissoko gives away than Alonso.  I feel that his contribution is outweighed at the minute by how much possession he losses.  From what I have seen of Mascherano he can do an adequate enough ball winning job but is smarter on the ball. 
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: AZOffaly on March 07, 2007, 02:11:24 PM
Rossie, you say 'not with the current crop', and to an extent I agree. However, these guys are professional footballers and should be able to pass the ball around. You need to work on these things in training, and I think that is being neglected.

Also, if the 'current' crop cannot do this, even after training, then get rid of them. I still think that every one of them could be proficient ball-players if that was made a priority. You can't tell me that Xabi Alonso cannot pass a ball 15 yards, and that Sissoko should not be able to do likewise.

Pass and Move is more than a tactic, it's a philosophy, and it has to be drummed into the players. Arsenal have it, United have it and Liverpool made an art form of it in the 70s and 80s. We need to get it back.

Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: magpie seanie on March 07, 2007, 02:12:47 PM
Do ye remeber Sissoko hoofing the ball straight up in the air last Saturday. There was no-one near him and the ball came straight down to him. A surreal moment.
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: SlimShady on March 07, 2007, 02:14:20 PM
Rossie, you say 'not with the current crop', and to an extent I agree. However, these guys are professional footballers and should be able to pass the ball around. You need to work on these things in training, and I think that is being neglected.

Also, if the 'current' crop cannot do this, even after training, then get rid of them. I still think that every one of them could be proficient ball-players if that was made a priority. You can't tell me that Xabi Alonso cannot pass a ball 15 yards, and that Sissoko should not be able to do likewise.

Pass and Move is more than a tactic, it's a philosophy, and it has to be drummed into the players. Arsenal have it, United have it and Liverpool made an art form of it in the 70s and 80s. We need to get it back.



it is, its the Liverpool groove  :D ;D
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: AZOffaly on March 07, 2007, 02:14:52 PM
Yep Seanie. That was the moment when I finally got to use George Best's quote, and mean it. 'That lad can control the ball further than I can kick it'.

He did something similar last night as well. Sissoko will be a good player for Liverpool if he is groomed right, and made learn passing (see my posts above) but at the moment he is pure raw, and a liability when LFC have the ball.
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: Gabriel_Hurl on March 07, 2007, 02:15:54 PM
He's like Hamann - only he can't pass
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: brokencrossbar1 on March 07, 2007, 02:19:19 PM
Pass and move is the only way to do it and from reading about the teams under Shanks and "Sir" Bob :P  I think the only way to achieve this is by plaing endless 1 touch 5 a side games.  Liverpool have become too much of a Charlton-esque 'put um under pressure' team and players like Alonso are suffering as a result.  These players have the ability to play the game the way it should be and should be encouraged to do so.  Maybe,as AZ says, it is being neglected at Melwood.  Any successful team in any sport is made up of a group of good players, with a clear strategy which they constantly practise.  To my mind Liverpool have all this, it is just that the strategy is not what we all would like.
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: AZOffaly on March 07, 2007, 02:22:20 PM
That's it Slim, and if they even made a (c)rap song out of it, it shows what they were built on. If they were to release a single now it'd be something like 'Tackle and Punt, Garcia's a cnut'
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: Mayo4Sam on March 07, 2007, 04:39:04 PM
That's it Slim, and if they even made a (c)rap song out of it, it shows what they were built on. If they were to release a single now it'd be something like 'Tackle and Punt, Garcia's a cnut'
:D :D
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: heganboy on March 07, 2007, 05:10:49 PM
A couple of points, if barca were kerry 2002 liverpool are Armagh. Finnan and Carra made a lot of wonder tackles, agger is fitting in well. Midfield can only do as well as the movement of the fwds will allow. Keegan, rush, fowler (mark 1) aldridge all had brilliant positional sense and the midfielders knew where the runs were being made and the passing was great to watch. Dalglish and to an extent Litmannen were pivots that could score and tore defences apart. Fowler mark 2 has the positional sense but isn't fit enough to play week in week out so the midfield don't get the familiarity required for a natural finisher. Crouch and kuyt work hard admittedly, but I really don't care and don't want to watch a hard working 12 goal a year striker. Liverpool are not sheffield wednesday. Bellamy is another mickey owen except not as good, and I didn't really have that much time for the first one. Maschareno I feel will be a good cog in the wheel. Sissoko as a poor mans keane, and we need that snarl in the middle. The key to a premiership win is a world class forward line, a pivot and a natural finisher. Bellamy, crouch and kuyt should go. Fowler mark 2 has another year as a back up, but the other three should be worth enough in the transfer market plus the dollars available in the summer should be able to bring in 2 class acts up front. The platform is there to be built on
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Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: The Real Laoislad on March 07, 2007, 10:28:20 PM
Chelsea
PSV
AC Milan
Valencia
Bayern Munich
Roma
Man United


Well lads who'd ye like?

Wouldn't be afraid of any of them myself i think we are more than capable of beating any of those over two legs
It's wide open now with Inter,Real and Barcelona gone
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: Syd The Sailor on March 07, 2007, 10:30:59 PM
Chelsea
PSV
AC Milan
Valencia
Bayern Munich
Roma
Man United


Well lads who'd ye like?

Wouldn't be afraid of any of them myself i think we are more than capable of beating any of those over two legs
It's wide open now with Inter,Real and Barcelona gone


I wouldnt give a shit about any of them, PSV or Milan will do. Milan were rubbish and if you watch Kaka they can be dealt with....
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: ONeill on March 07, 2007, 10:47:09 PM
Liverpool will beat PSV. A poor side.
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: GalwayBayBoy on March 07, 2007, 10:56:44 PM
Think we can beat anyone left over 2 legs. Benitez knows how to set his teams up for two legged affairs. Hopefully Chelsea and United draw each other although I'm sure United will get PSV knowing their luck in the draws.

Everyone will want PSV but Bayern and Milan don't have great sides at present by their own high standards.

I'm sure Rafa would know Valencia inside out.

It really is wide open now.
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: The Real Laoislad on March 07, 2007, 11:04:55 PM
Out of them all i think Valencia are the biggest threats
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: charlie linkbox on March 07, 2007, 11:09:37 PM
but Bayern and Milan don't have great sides at present by their own high standards.

Kahn, Sagnol, Lucio, Lahm, Hargreaves, van Bommell (although he did get sent off tonight so will miss the next game), Schweinsteiger (sp?), Makaay, Pizarro, Podolski.....

I reckon Bayern won't be too far away.

I will agree that it's wide open though.
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: J70 on March 07, 2007, 11:34:03 PM
Chelsea
PSV
AC Milan
Valencia
Bayern Munich
Roma
Man United


Well lads who'd ye like?

Wouldn't be afraid of any of them myself i think we are more than capable of beating any of those over two legs
It's wide open now with Inter,Real and Barcelona gone


It would be some crack if Liverpool and United got each other at some stage! It doesn't bear thinking about, getting knocked out of the Champions League by United, and, I'm sure, vice versa for them!

In terms of progressing, I would like to avoid United, Valencia and Chelsea, although not one of those sides is a walk over for any other.

Its going to be fun!
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: GalwayBayBoy on March 08, 2007, 11:47:02 AM
Benitez makes perfect pitch to new owners
By Sam Wallace
Published: 08 March 2007
Lucky old Tom Hicks and George Gillett Jr, because events like Tuesday night at Anfield are exactly why American billionaires of a pensionable age buy English football clubs. The chance to hear a load of songs you do not quite understand, to watch on both sides a lot of famous footballers you do not quite recognise. When you can have all that, why leave the money to the grandchildren?

The Glazers would love to do the same but they have not been accepted in the same way in Manchester, certainly not to the extent of Stars and Stripes being flown on the Stretford End, as they have been on the Kop of late (with a star for every European Cup triumph). Nights like Tuesday are when the Americans can appreciate the full eccentricity of their new sport - victory in defeat? - as well as a place in the Champions League quarter-finals.

In short, a great Liverpool night and, in terms of the opposition eliminated, knocking out Barcelona compared with all the big ones in recent memory, Roma (2002), Olympiakos (2004) and Chelsea (2005). That is the simple version for the owners who arrived at Anfield talking the innocents' jargon of "goaltenders" and "defensemen"; the more complex interpretation requires a bit more explanation. Namely, is the way that Liverpool played - the hustling, the containment, the pressing - the long-term solution, enough to win another European Cup?

Just the debate itself is one that is likely to make Benitez despair. For 180 minutes we had heard barely a tinkle from the great orchestra of Barcelona's attacking talent. Whatever problems that club is experiencing it is an astounding achievement just to keep Ronaldinho in check, let alone Samuel Eto'o, Lionel Messi and Deco.

And yet on Irish television's RTE the pundits John Giles and Liam Brady whipped up something of a storm among the club's following there by saying that more should have been done against a Barcelona team there for the taking. And Rijkaard, who was gracious and philosophical in defeat, also talked about a Liverpool team "full of teamwork" - and a way of playing, he added pointedly, "they do quite well".

Unfortunately Benitez's style means that he can eliminate the European champions and still have people asking him for more. He might say that with the money promised by his American owners he will be able to assemble a more dominant team. For now he is busy taking apart English football's comfortable old approach of honest naïvety in European competition; the days when the English would throw the kitchen sink at the opposition and the opposition would throw them out of the competition.

Anfield was an education in a more sophisticated way. Some might squirm in their seats at the prospect of not trying to beat Ronaldinho and his team-mates at their own expansive game, but to Benitez that kind of talk is madness. The Liverpool manager, and to a lesser extent Jose Mourinho, have made their sides in Europe less lovable and a lot more successful.

There were also some performances which were beyond reproach. Jamie Carragher is a defender who seems to intervene in the very last frame of the action, in that brief moment of vulnerability when the attacker draws back his foot and takes one last glance at the goal. So, too, Steve Finnan and Daniel Agger, who never wavered in their concentration. This was a brilliantly conceived performance in which - other than in Eidur Gudjohnsen's goal - Benitez must have seen the drills and the patterns of the training ground played out to perfection.

Benitez has ignored the British game's obsession with declaring your best XI and your way of winning. He has a different team for every different game, he asks players to play different ways on different occasions, he is happy to win away and lose at home if that gets the team through. He wins European Cups before Premiership titles. It does not always work, but on Tuesday night even the novice Americans would have seen it was Europe's defending champions who looked the most naïve.
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: SuperSub on March 08, 2007, 11:52:28 AM
jamie carragher is the best centre back in the world
If ferdinand is worth 30mill then jamie is worth 90million
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: Goats Do Shave on March 08, 2007, 12:11:52 PM
Carragher is fully committed I'll give him that....but Ferdinand is that quick he doesn't need to make all those last ditch blocks Carra is reknown for.

The 2 of them together would be a decent partnership....though I wouldn't swap Rio & Vidic for any centre back pairing!
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: SuperSub on March 08, 2007, 12:12:57 PM
i'd have anton over rio anyday
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: SlimShady on March 08, 2007, 12:14:51 PM
your last 2 posts are absolutely ridiculous, switch your computer off before you make any more of a bollocks of yourself!!  :D
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: GalwayBayBoy on March 08, 2007, 12:19:21 PM
European Football

by Phil McNulty - BBC Sport 07 March 2007


Take your mind back to the first week of January - the week when Arsene Wenger was hailed as the great visionary and Rafael Benitez as a bungler who did not know his best team.

Arsenal dumped Liverpool out of the FA Cup on the Saturday then became the first visiting side to score six at Anfield for 77 years in a Carling Cup tie on the Tuesday.

Wenger's brilliant band of youngsters ran Liverpool ragged, with Benitez accused of betraying Anfield's great traditions by fielding weakened sides.

Liverpool supporters voiced disapproval, but Benitez was unrepentant, effectively saying he had not come to Anfield to win the Carling Cup.

He wanted the Premiership or the Champions League.

Arsenal and Wenger, in contrast, were almost obliterated by the bouquets hurled in their direction. The world was at their feet.

How we laughed. At Benitez.

Turn the clock forward to where we stand after a dramatic two nights of Champions League football and who is laughing now?

Wenger's season has collapsed in the space of 10 days that have damaged Arsenal's image and left them empty-handed in their glittering new Emirates Stadium.

Arsenal were outstanding in defeat against Chelsea in a Carling Cup final that ended in acrimony, but were then promptly dumped out of the FA Cup by Blackburn.

And the Champions League exit at the hands of PSV Eindhoven capped a miserable 10 days.

Benitez, on the other hand, has been hailed as one of the finest tactical brains in football after meticulously plotting Barcelona's downfall to reach the last eight.

Arsenal went the way we always knew they would. Passing the opposition into submission, then missing the chances that should have sent them through.

The glitter has been taken off Wenger's golden generation - for now at least.

Benitez is an altogether more pragmatic figure. If you want romance, send flowers but don't look for it in his football teams.

He deals in the small details, whereas Wenger is an admirable man of footballing principle who embraces the beautiful game.

But after two seasons without a trophy, it may be time for Wenger to adopt a little of Benitez's hard-nosed realism.

No-one would suggest for one second Wenger is under pressure, but two seasons without a trophy is not good news for Arsenal as they settle into a new home.

Benitez's insistence that he was seeing the bigger picture has arguably made Liverpool the best-equipped of the Premiership trio still in the Champions League to go on and win the trophy.

And that statement is made with the knowledge that Manchester United and Sir Alex Ferguson have set their heart on reclaiming the trophy.

The Spaniard still fails to nail down the Premiership, but he has no peers when it comes to plotting a route around Europe.

And Liverpool's fans will start to see uncanny echoes of 2005, when they emerged from the shadows to win the trophy in Istanbul.

Examine the evidence.

Benitez was criticised for fielding a below-strength team in an FA Cup defeat at Burnley, but then a succession of high-quality opponents fell by the wayside in Europe.

Make no mistake, no team in the draw will want to be paired with Liverpool in the quarter-final.

And this is not just because of the prospect of facing Steven Gerrard or confronting The Kop. It is also the fact that they will have to out-smart Benitez.

Wenger will be a miserable man after their loss.

He is a bad loser at the best of times, and three hammer blows in less than a fortnight will not be well-received.

Unthinkable as it may seem, maybe it is time he put his principles - laudable though they are - to one side and put a little bit of the Benitez philosophy into his talented but flawed Arsenal side.

He must dwell on that while Benitez eyes up another Champions League crown - but wasn't that what he said he was doing after losing 6-3 to Arsenal in the Carling Cup?

Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: full back on March 08, 2007, 12:24:17 PM
i'd have anton over rio anyday

WTF :D :D
Who let this joker in :D
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: SuperSub on March 08, 2007, 12:29:52 PM
alright the anton thing was meant as a joke,but in fairness carra is way better that rio
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: hobnob1 on March 08, 2007, 12:49:15 PM
Ferdinand would look more at home in a pond full of ducks in a park somewhere than on a football field ;). He has one of those faces you just want to punch ;D ;D
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: magpie seanie on March 08, 2007, 12:55:56 PM
Part of the best defense in the Premiership all the same. Along with Gary Neville. Just cos you hate someone doesn't mean they're shite.
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: GalwayBayBoy on March 08, 2007, 01:04:31 PM
Part of the best defense in the Premiership all the same. Along with Gary Neville. Just cos you hate someone doesn't mean they're shite.

Plug isn't shite. Just overrated. Although I'm not even sure he's rated as highly now as he used to be anyway so maybe it's a moot point.
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: full back on March 08, 2007, 01:04:40 PM
He has one of those faces you just want to punch ;D ;D

Jaysus, you are one tough motherfcuker :-*
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: Syd The Sailor on March 08, 2007, 02:24:14 PM
Galwaybayboy.....The article you posted brings me back to when Arsenal beat us 6-3 in Carling Cup. That managerial juggernaut (sacked from Walsall) Paul Merson (on Sky Sports) was telling Jamie Redknapp that Rafa had lost it & this was the 1st time he was under pressure as Liverpool manager. Jamie got off the fence & told Merson that we could beat Barcelona, Merson started pissing himself laughing........Oh how i laughed on Tuesday night
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: magpie seanie on March 08, 2007, 02:31:45 PM
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That managerial juggernaut (sacked from Walsall) Paul Merson

There must be something about Walsall and great managers!
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: Goats Do Shave on March 08, 2007, 02:34:20 PM
...& their assistant managers!!!!  ::) ::) ::) ::) ::)
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: The Real Laoislad on March 09, 2007, 06:14:26 PM
So PSV it is then probaly the best draw we could have got,they weren't a handfull in the group stages
Would have been happier meeting United in semis if we get through rather than Chelsea but there all hard at this stage
Liverpool  v Ac Milan final again?
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: The Real Laoislad on March 09, 2007, 06:16:01 PM
It's 10/1 with paddypower for Liverpool v Milan in final
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: heganboy on March 12, 2007, 02:11:32 PM
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/football/europe/6441661.stm
looks like Alex is out for the rest of the season for PSV
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: magpie seanie on March 14, 2007, 02:16:18 PM
Interesting article about the takeover of your "franchise". No wonder Moores was whoring the club all over the world to get the f**k out as soon as he could. Looks like the tooth fairy or Santa Claus will be funding all these big purchases you are going to be making in the summer....




Americans borrow £298m to buy Liverpool


Club likely to foot annual £21.5m interest payments
Moores family loaned £10m for new signings

David Conn
Wednesday March 14, 2007
The Guardian


Thomas O Hicks and George Gillett Jr, the two American businessmen who are close to completing their takeover of Liverpool, have borrowed almost £300m from the Royal Bank of Scotland to finance the deal. The bank has loaned the money at 1.5% above the current standard lending rate, meaning that about £21.5m interest will be payable this year.
The debt is not being taken on by the club in the way the Glazer family loaded Manchester United with £660m borrowings from their 2005 takeover, but professionals close to the deal said it was nevertheless likely that Liverpool would pay the interest, or pay Hicks and Gillett "a big dividend" at the end of the year to enable them to do so.
The terms of the loans are in the offer document sent to all shareholders, revealing that the two men are borrowing £185m to pay for the £174m takeover itself and associated costs, with another £113m available as a "revolving credit facility" to absorb Liverpool's debts and fund the club and preliminary work on the new 60,000-seat stadium. A further £200m will be borrowed to build the stadium but the way that will be done has not been worked out. The initial £298m loans are guaranteed by Hicks and Gillett personally.
The offer document also reveals how stretched Liverpool became financially last year as the chief executive, Rick Parry, searched for someone to take over the club. In August the then chairman David Moores lent the club £10m - £2m personally and £8m from a family trust - to let the manager, Rafael Benítez, have some money to strengthen the squad, which he spent on buying the striker Dirk Kuyt.

Parry said that with a takeover likely the club had not wanted to take on more bank finance. "We were at the limit in terms of our short-term borrowing facilities and were racking up expenditure keeping the stadium on schedule, so it was a fantastic gesture by David to make that money available." Along with the money Hicks and Gillett are paying for his shares, Moores will have his loans repaid in full.

The takeover is certain to go through after it was confirmed last week that over 80% of Liverpool shareholders had accepted the offer of £5,000 a share. Moores, the former 51.5% shareholder, will be paid £89.615m for the 17,923 shares he bought for about £12m.

Robert Tilliss, the New York-based financial adviser to Hicks and Gillett, said the men had been attracted by buying "one of the leading brands in the world's No1 sport". He said they would bring their sports business expertise over from the US, where $20bn (£10.3bn) has been spent in recent years upgrading stadiums whose ticket prices make those in the Premiership seem like a snip. Tilliss said the popularity of English football in Asia had also been a factor. "All clubs in the US continue to drive on international, national and local revenues, and the great brands of English football certainly have room to develop."

Hicks and Gillett, who have said they intend to be "custodians" and hold Liverpool as a family asset, will own the club via a company structure based in the tax havens of the Cayman Islands and the US state of Delaware. The ultimate holding company, Kop Investment LLC, is registered in Delaware, which has low corporation tax and no capital gains tax, and its principal office is at Hicks's corporate headquarters in Dallas, Texas. One professional involved with the deal said that this did not mean the two men foresaw a sale or flotation and were "sheltering" those future gains from tax, but that it was simply "a tax efficient" way to structure the deal.
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: Gabriel_Hurl on March 14, 2007, 02:34:35 PM
How is it a "franchise" Seanie? Can we be moved anywhere?
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: magpie seanie on March 14, 2007, 02:53:52 PM
Why don't you ask Mr Gillett? It was his word, not mine.
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: Gabriel_Hurl on March 14, 2007, 02:58:39 PM
An American making a mistake a few days after he bought the team - shock horror
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: magpie seanie on March 14, 2007, 03:04:25 PM
I would suggest that those boys make very few mistakes. But by all means ignore the article (and the little jibe) and continue to keep your heads in the sand and dream of competing in the transfer market with Chelski.
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: Gabriel_Hurl on March 14, 2007, 05:13:09 PM
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/football/teams/l/liverpool/6450893.stm

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Liverpool's new owners Tom Hicks and George Gillett have suspended work on their proposed new stadium and ordered a review of the plans.

BBC Sport understands the pair want to examine ways of increasing the 60,000 capacity of the arena in Stanley Park.

Liverpool have targeted 2009 as an opening date for the stadium, but if major changes are made, there would need to be a new planning application.

This could result in a delay, although the original date may yet be met.

Liverpool have yet to confirm the decision to suspend preparatory work on the £215m project.

But BBC Sport believes the club's hierarchy regards the move to commission a review of the plans as a sign of the huge ambition of Gillett and Hicks rather than any move to back away from the original scheme.

Gillett and Hicks are fully behind the project as part of their takeover plan, and it is understood the review will take ''weeks rather than months'', allowing work on any alterations to the original design to get under way as soon as possible.

An increased capacity will be one of the plans under discussion during the review, but this is not a guarantee that this will happen.

Work on the new ground needs to start in the spring because public money has been allocated to the regeneration element of the plan, and it has to be spent by the end of 2008.

Gillett said in early February: "The shovel needs to be in the ground in the next 60 days.

"We are fully supportive of the Stanley Park development and of building a facility that we hope will be the greatest facility in this sport.

"We do work hard on design and development and making sure the quality of the fan experience is unparalleled.

"We want to make sure the newest technology is incorporated in it. It is about the comfort of fans."

And Hicks added: "We have our own people lined up to see if, within the confines of the plans, there are any other ideas that would be good for the fans."
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: Syd The Sailor on March 14, 2007, 08:56:08 PM
I wouldnt pay too much attention to that toolbag Magpie Seaneen shitstirring, i think most Liverpool fans agree we have the right manager and the right owners.
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: J70 on March 14, 2007, 11:01:43 PM
I wouldnt pay too much attention to that toolbag Magpie Seaneen shitstirring, i think most Liverpool fans agree we have the right manager and the right owners.

We have the right manager. Whether the new owners will do the business for the club remains to be seen.
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: Syd The Sailor on March 15, 2007, 09:45:36 AM
I wouldnt pay too much attention to that toolbag Magpie Seaneen shitstirring, i think most Liverpool fans agree we have the right manager and the right owners.

We have the right manager. Whether the new owners will do the business for the club remains to be seen.

Time will tell but they seem to have a good track record.
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: magpie seanie on March 15, 2007, 09:56:01 AM
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i think most Liverpool fans agree we have the right manager and the right owners

That's my very point. The unquestioning acceptance of these guys is amazing to me. Granted a lot of the muppets that support United did the same with the Glazers but at least there was significant resistance to them foisting massive debt on the club. Do some maths FFS. Unless some bargains are picked up or Liverpools youth system produces a few beauts then the long wait for your first post backpass rule change championship will go on for a while yet.
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: supersarsfields on March 15, 2007, 12:33:11 PM
Liverpool manager Rafael Benitez is ready to swoop for Athletic Bilbao defender Mikel San Jose. (Daily Mirror)

Anyone know much about this guy?
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: Syd The Sailor on March 15, 2007, 05:44:56 PM
Liverpool manager Rafael Benitez is ready to swoop for Athletic Bilbao defender Mikel San Jose. (Daily Mirror)

Anyone know much about this guy?

Horefully not another f**king Josemi or Pellegrino..... >:(
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: J70 on March 15, 2007, 06:25:14 PM
Liverpool manager Rafael Benitez is ready to swoop for Athletic Bilbao defender Mikel San Jose. (Daily Mirror)

Anyone know much about this guy?

Horefully not another f**king Josemi or Pellegrino..... >:(

Josemi was strange, because he looked very solid after he arrived. Then he got injured, and when he came back, he was a bloody headless chicken, giving the ball away and constantly getting caught out of position! Pellegrino hadn't played in months before he came, and I suppose it was a bit much to expect a veteran defender, even one as good as he was in his prime, to adapt to the English game at that stage of his career. Even a great like Lauren Blanc struggled a bit during his spell at United.

This lad is only 17 and won't cost very much, so I doubt if we're going to be seeing him near the first team squad for the next while.
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: J70 on March 18, 2007, 02:24:46 PM
Lucky escape before half-time there, from the chance first, and then from the foul on Petrov. Looked a penalty to me.
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: Syd The Sailor on March 18, 2007, 02:26:13 PM
What a crap game. They would need to get their fingers out in 2nd half. Mascherano has contracted Sissokoitis and is giving the ball away cheaply
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: The Real Laoislad on March 18, 2007, 02:54:30 PM
Not playing well at all,very bad game,if anything Villa look more like scoring
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: Syd The Sailor on March 18, 2007, 03:26:56 PM
Fcuk that was painful watching that, need to get some new faces in the summer.

Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: The Real Laoislad on March 18, 2007, 03:27:23 PM
So close from Fowler would love to see him score
All over 0-0
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: J70 on March 18, 2007, 07:17:16 PM
I think the title of the thread on Red and White Kop says it all!: Aston Villa 0-0 Liverpool: Post Game Discussion (For those still awake)

Liverpool have been struggling a bit in front of goals over the last month - Everton, United, Villa, Barcelona at home (Sheff Utd game, with two penalties, excepted!). Could be a worry with Arsenal and PSV coming up next.
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: Syd The Sailor on March 18, 2007, 07:40:48 PM
We will struggle for goals until the summer when we get somebody prolific in. I know i risk incurring the wrath of the English Medis but i think Gerrard is playing shite at the minute just when we need him to be on top of his game. I thought the commentator on Sky was gonna have a f**king hernia when Gerrard went down after a tackle, "Oh Steve Mc Claren will be crapping himself" etc, who gives a f**k about England.
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: Dubh driocht on March 18, 2007, 07:54:13 PM
We look tired although Andy Johnston did us a big favour. Is there any chance Garcia will be available before the end of the season ?I think his touch could be what the Doctor ordered for the CL final victory over MUFC ;)
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: Syd The Sailor on March 18, 2007, 07:55:07 PM
We look tired although Andy Johnston did us a big favour. Is there any chance Garcia will be available before the end of the season ?I think his touch could be what the Doctor ordered for the CL final victory over MUFC ;)

Hopefully those cnuts will get their medicine before the final  ;D
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: J70 on March 18, 2007, 08:32:21 PM
PSV lost 5-1 at home to Ajax! :o
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: Over the Bar on March 19, 2007, 07:20:00 PM
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PSV lost 5-1 at home to Ajax!

As I've said before, Arsenal made them look good. Think ahead to worrying about Chelsea 'cos PSV are dross. 
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: Syd The Sailor on March 19, 2007, 09:57:22 PM
I see the ref was about to send off the granny shagger at the end of the United game but bottled it....
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: ExiledGael on March 19, 2007, 10:06:55 PM
Definitely, if that was anyone else he was off!! He was behaving like a p***k there for the last fifteen minutes, they say he's smart but the ignoramus could have been sent off and blown United's title
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: Square Ball on March 19, 2007, 10:33:01 PM
I see the ref was about to send off the granny shagger at the end of the United game but bottled it....

Syd

he was replacing the red card back in his pocket after the Boro thug tried to take Ronaldos legs off from the knees down, mind you hes was a silly fecker and could have balloxed up the run in
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: Syd The Sailor on March 30, 2007, 10:40:06 PM
How do youse think the match will go tomorrow against the gutless wonders??
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: The Real Laoislad on March 30, 2007, 11:31:42 PM
Liverppol win..I see John Arne Riise was declared bankrupt today
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: Dubh driocht on March 31, 2007, 11:04:43 AM
Critical game today.See Crouch is available but not sure if he should start. The Guardian had an interesting feature yesterday about the contribution  Agger has made to the defence. We have only conceded 5 goals in the league when he has played. Also our defence has become meaner overall - in 04/05 conceded average 1.07,05/06 average 0.87,06/07 average 0.66. Total anorak stuff but if we had a consistent striker....
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: Gabriel_Hurl on March 31, 2007, 02:45:05 PM
4-1 Crouch

Big man playing well
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: deiseach on March 31, 2007, 02:46:22 PM
So we only lost 13-8 on aggregate :D
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: Gabriel_Hurl on March 31, 2007, 02:52:30 PM
The 3rd was a beauty
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: The Real Laoislad on March 31, 2007, 03:40:52 PM
Was working so only got last five mins of match..Easy enough today was it?
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: Dubh driocht on March 31, 2007, 05:57:22 PM
Great result - nicely set up - if only crouchey had played like that all season.Arsenal seem to have lost it so lets make third place ours.
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: From the Bunker on March 31, 2007, 06:16:40 PM
Yeah, the Gunner Boys were reading to many Daily Sun's about how great there B side was before the season got serious. No medals are handed out in January. Still have a talented bunch, but needed a reality check. Beating two slapped together L'pool sides does not make you great. In fact beating two unslapped together L'pool sides side only ranks average. They are one for the future, but Leeds will tell you how that can fall apart!
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: J70 on March 31, 2007, 06:18:55 PM
The Villa sleepwalk aside, today's match wasn't hugely different to recent performances against the likes of United and Barcelona - Liverpool just stuck a few in the net this time!

I don't think it matters much whether Liverpool finish third or fourth. At this stage, the priority has to be the Champions League quarter final and getting the five wins from the remaining seven league games to guarantee Champions League football next year.  Beyond that, if Arsenal win their game in hand and finish third, what difference does it make?
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: Dubh driocht on March 31, 2007, 06:30:22 PM
Prestige ,money and bragging rights
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: Syd The Sailor on April 01, 2007, 12:38:26 PM
Great performance yesterday, pity we could not be as prolific all season and it does not change my mind about the need for new strikers in the summer. I think Mascherano could be the steal of the season now that he isnt playing with a pile of wasters. I think in a year or two Agger will be the best central defender in the premiership.
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: charlie stubbs on April 02, 2007, 12:03:33 PM
GOOD TO SEE RAFA HAS A HEADACHE FOR THE CHAMPIONS LEAGUE GAME!WILL BELLERS BE FIT AND IS MASCHERANO AVAILABLE?ID IMAGINE FINNAN WAS NOT IN THE SQUAD TEAM,AS RAFA WILL START HIM AT RIGHT BACK SAME WITH RIISE AND MOMO.ID IMAGINE IT WILL BE REINA,FINNAN,CARRAGHER,AGGER,RIISE,STEVIE,ALONSO,MOMO,AURELIO,CROUCH,KUYT?ANY THOUGHTS?THOUGH BELLERS WILL OFFER A THREAT INBEHIND THE DEFENCE.HARD TO DROP CROUCH AFTER WEEKEND AND IMO KUYT IS RAFAS NUMBER 1
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: supersarsfields on April 03, 2007, 09:26:44 AM
Only getting round to posting on this now. Good preformance by liverpool alright. Crouch was on top form and took the goals well. Was impressed with Aurelio as well. Had big doubts over him to be honest but his crosses were inch perfect for most of the game. And Mashcerano looks like he might unsettle Sissiko (sp). He can make the tackles and is also able to ball a ball over 10 yards. His ball over the top to Pennant for Crouch's third was great. Tho he just might not have the engin that Momo has.
But have to be honest I thought Arsenal were terrible in patches. I know Liverpool closed them down early and put pressure on them, but you'd still expect them to put up a better performance than that.
So fingers crossed we can hold out for 3rd place and maybe get a bit farther in that auld European cup thingy we seem to like so much!!
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: gawa316 on April 03, 2007, 09:38:08 AM
Great result against the arse. We needed this after what they did to us in january. Big match tonight i reckon team will be something similar to the one that faced Barca.

Reina
Finnan, Carra, Agger, Arbeloa
Gerrard, Alonso, Masch, Riise
Kuyt, Bellamy

Crouch could come in for Bells if his ribs are still giving him jip
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: charlie stubbs on April 03, 2007, 10:52:40 AM
tink rafas main front 2 bellamy and kuyt.i was thinking the same.would def start crouch as we havent been fulla goals
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: gawa316 on April 03, 2007, 11:14:29 AM
I would personally start Crouch, but ye know what Rafa is like. Kuyt is in there for his work rate and because he knows the dutch game inside out. Bells is in for his pace, which is essential in the away leg.

If i was picking the team I would have it a bit like saturdays line up. With Crouch up front and Gerrard supporting him (impossible to mark). I'd have Alonso and Masch (how could he not get in the west ham side?!) in the middle, breaking attacks up and controlling things. I'd slot Riise in at left back and have Aurelio in front of him, swinging in balls to Crouch to attack or lay off for a Stevie G thunderbolt. Finnan and Pennant on the right doing the same thing. But no doubt Rafa will think up some tactical masterplan nothing like what I have just mentioned
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: charlie stubbs on April 03, 2007, 12:24:47 PM
gawa u may be right as rafa has been known 2 play 1 up front in away european games.though i feel that playing 2 up front will help us get the vital away goal we crave especially with psv minus a few men 2nite.on the back of the mirror 2day it says rafa will be given 40 million during summer ;D this will mean we can go for top players not potential like gonzalez etc.aparantly eto'o the main target,with alves,deco and d bent also linked
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: The Real Laoislad on April 03, 2007, 12:27:28 PM
He would hardly get all them for 40million.
Deco would be great.Thought he'd get more than 40mill though i understood it was gonna be 100million
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: charlie stubbs on April 03, 2007, 12:37:25 PM
they where the names linked.duno if deco would fit into our 4-4-2 formation,rafa likes to play 2 ball winners e.g.albelba,baraja at valencia and momo/xavi at the pool.would love eto'o,would be unsure of bent though 2 b honest.id say fowler will be away during summer and possibly crouch or bellamy
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: Fr Ted on April 03, 2007, 02:01:41 PM
Rafa could spring a surprise and go for the jugular, he played 2 up front at the nou camp, PSV is on a bad run at the minute and minus a few regulars.

for me has to be bellamy and kuyt up front, pack crouch off in the summer to villa or man city or newcastle for 12mill
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: charlie stubbs on April 03, 2007, 02:12:18 PM
bellamy played wide left at the nou camp
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: The Real Laoislad on April 03, 2007, 05:13:48 PM
Prediction tonight? 1-0 to the Pool
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: charlie stubbs on April 03, 2007, 05:18:19 PM
THEY APPEAL AT 6/4 LASTIME WENT THERE WITHOUT STEVIE G AND THEY HAD A STRONGER SIDE OUT
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: hitzelsperger on April 03, 2007, 05:26:27 PM
your caps lock stuck on charlie? i say 1-1 tonight, jan molby first goal scorer
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: charlie stubbs on April 03, 2007, 05:35:13 PM
thanks h apologies
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: The Real Laoislad on April 03, 2007, 06:59:52 PM
Crouch and Kuyt up front
Midfield Alonso,Mascherano,Gerrard,Aurelio
Finnan Carragher Agger Riise in the backs
and Renia
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: ExiledGael on April 03, 2007, 08:14:20 PM
Absolutely cracking header from Gerard!! Came through his own man to get it
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: The Real Laoislad on April 03, 2007, 08:15:16 PM
Quite start to match then up pops Gerrard 1-0 Liverpool after 28mins great headed goal
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: Redgreenery on April 03, 2007, 08:33:40 PM
Brilliant goal by Gerrard but its a very boring game! 2-0 pool at end i'd say.
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: The Real Laoislad on April 03, 2007, 08:34:23 PM
Half Time 1-0 Liverpool..Very comfortable at the moment
Milan winning 1-0
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: heganboy on April 03, 2007, 08:36:42 PM
not great viewing, but psv are playing very poorly- even given the players they are missing. They must improve in the second half. Alonso has been quiet
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: The Real Laoislad on April 03, 2007, 08:39:38 PM
Great cross by Finnan hope Stan the Gaffer is watching,Didn't see Finnan in that position to cross once while playing for Ireland
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: heganboy on April 03, 2007, 08:50:11 PM
cracker by riise 2-0
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: ExiledGael on April 03, 2007, 08:50:37 PM
What a strike from Riise!! Pool are cruising, does he ever score a shit goal??
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: heganboy on April 03, 2007, 09:03:48 PM
crouch 3-0
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: ExiledGael on April 03, 2007, 09:04:12 PM
3-0 Crouch, another assist from Finnan!!!
PSV are playing totally shite
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: The Real Laoislad on April 03, 2007, 09:13:07 PM
Easy Easy Easy....Probably still won't be good enough for the "experts" on RTE
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: The Real Laoislad on April 03, 2007, 09:15:33 PM
Aurelio in trouble looks painfull,Gonzalez comes on
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: Redgreenery on April 03, 2007, 09:39:52 PM
Game over 3-0 Liverpool. Better second half. Riise scored a top goal!
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: ONeill on April 03, 2007, 09:40:21 PM
I told you PSV were pure dung.
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: J70 on April 03, 2007, 09:51:10 PM
That is one of the worst performances I've ever seen from a team at this stage. Must be some seriously important players that they're missing.
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: ONeill on April 03, 2007, 09:54:02 PM
Shows how crap Arsenal played.
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: The Real Laoislad on April 03, 2007, 10:03:43 PM
Jaysis Johhny Giles is a grumpy f**ker.4-1 on saturday and 3-0 tonight and he's still not convinced with Liverpool
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: J70 on April 03, 2007, 10:17:16 PM
Jaysis Johhny Giles is a grumpy f**ker.4-1 on saturday and 3-0 tonight and he's still not convinced with Liverpool

Well they're not exactly world-beaters yet, are they? 20-odd points behind United tells its own story, especially about goal-scoring.

No reason why Liverpool can't go on to win the Champions League though. On their day, they can match anyone.
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: The Real Laoislad on April 03, 2007, 10:21:30 PM
Their not World beaters yet they can match anyone on their day is that not a bit of a contradiction?

While they are not the best team in the world they certainly deserve more credit than those fools on RTE give them
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: J70 on April 03, 2007, 10:28:24 PM
Their not World beaters yet they can match anyone on their day is that not a bit of a contradiction?

While they are not the best team in the world they certainly deserve more credit than those fools on RTE give them

I'm sure you know what I mean, given the rest of my post. They're not world beaters in that they cannot consistently grind out wins even when not playing well, like United have done this season, and Chelsea in recent seasons.

I wouldn't get too carried away yet. Liverpool couldn't put away a subdued but determined United recently. Same with Everton. The less said about the Villa game the better. We played well and got the breaks against Arsenal, but another day we might not, the same as those other games. As for tonight, its great to be almost through, but PSV were absolute garbage.
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: The Real Laoislad on April 03, 2007, 10:35:24 PM
Can't always put it down to the other team being garbage they still had to score the goals,if United done the same tomorrow night after Roma being garbage it be hailed as a great european result..My beef is not with you J70 it's those knobs on RTE
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: J70 on April 03, 2007, 10:36:32 PM
Can't always put it down to the other team being garbage they still had to score the goals,if United done the same tomorrow night after Roma being garbage it be hailed as a great european result..My beef is not with you J70 it's those knobs on RTE

But the United lads on the board are forever whinging about bias against them, from both RTE and BBC!
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: Gabriel_Hurl on April 03, 2007, 10:38:15 PM
What did the three stooges have to say on RTE tonight?
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: The Real Laoislad on April 03, 2007, 10:47:33 PM
Was just Giles and Brady tonight the only onw who talked any sense was Trevor Steven who Giles and Brady both disagreed with not surprisingly..
Liverpool won 3-0 yet Giles reckon they should have done more in first 20mins while Stevens thought in the first half of a first leg match you don't go gung ho which i would agree with.FFS they won 3-0 what difference does it make that they didn't drive forward in first 20mins ???

Also Giles was saying Liverpool didn't play well but football is all about the result and not the preformance...Strange then that after the Ireland/Wales match he said it's just as much about the preformance as the result a contradiction or what!!
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: J70 on April 03, 2007, 11:34:10 PM
Was just Giles and Brady tonight the only onw who talked any sense was Trevor Steven who Giles and Brady both disagreed with not surprisingly..
Liverpool won 3-0 yet Giles reckon they should have done more in first 20mins while Stevens thought in the first half of a first leg match you don't go gung ho which i would agree with.FFS they won 3-0 what difference does it make that they didn't drive forward in first 20mins ???

Also Giles was saying Liverpool didn't play well but football is all about the result and not the preformance...Strange then that after the Ireland/Wales match he said it's just as much about the preformance as the result a contradiction or what!!

Its all about context. After the rubbish against Wales, it was probably very fair to say that Ireland required a decent performance. There weren't too many satisfied with the victories over either Wales or San Marino, were there. If you can't put on a semi-decent show against teams of that calibre, what hope do you have against the likes of the Czechs or Germans?

And Liverpool, while obviously far better than PSV tonight, didn't even get out of second gear, but we know they are well capable of putting on a better show. That does not apply to Ireland under Steve Staunton.

Anyway, I think some of you lads take what the pundits have to say far too seriously and far too personally. They're all there to give an opinion, and given that football isn't a science, they're all going to have different ones. Personally, I think Giles, Brady et al. are superb at what they do. RTE's analysis is streets ahead of everyone else.
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: el_cuervo_fc on April 04, 2007, 08:42:58 AM
A good result last night, but the opposition weren't up to it.  They didn't really seem to have any fight in them, especially after Gerrard scored.  that fkd their plans up.  Nil nil was their aim. 

Had to laugh at RTE commentary after the match.  Finnan was criticised for not going forward even though he set up 2 goals.  all the talk was about the first 20 mins.  what do they expect defenders to do?
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: The Real Laoislad on April 04, 2007, 09:11:17 AM
Their a complete joke on RTE it's time for a change.
They have been slaging Ronaldo all year and their abuse has got so bad it would be impossible from them to do a U turn now,so instead they sit there week after week making up new ways to slag him.Now i don't think that Ronaldo is the worlds best player as Ferguson thinks but in fairness to him he's top scorer in Premiership and has won a lot of games on his own this year for the scum
Dunphy is just a complete w**ker..Can you imagine O'Rourke or Brolly coming on the sunday game and saying they hoped Meath/Derry lost so they could prove a point?
Giles has lost it altogether he just sits there every week contradicting what he said the previous week.
When Liverpool won the treble they got no credit,when they won the Champions League they got no credit,after beating Barcelona this year was the worst of all,Slagging them off because they didn't attack Barcelona in the last 20mins of a 2nd leg tie in which Barca needed to score twice,surely defending was the right thing to and play on the counter attack rather than go gung ho and leave gaps at the back,Oh and they never mentioned the three times Liverpool hit the crossbar in the first half or any of the goal line clearence's
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: charlie stubbs on April 04, 2007, 09:24:42 AM
j70 what are u talking about rte has the best tv coverage.joke!i just turn over the odd occassion to have a laugh at how ridiculous they are and the amount of crap they talk.your ideal line up for tv coverage would probably be giles,dunphy and ian wright!
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: charlie stubbs on April 04, 2007, 09:28:35 AM
in response to lpool being "worldbeaters"think that totally unrealistic at this stage.definate=ly need a 20 goal a season man and a left winger during the summer,possibly another central defender coz sami getting on.however,in europe rafas tactical knowledge seems to pull through.clive tyldsley said on itv last night that if there was one team in europe u wouldnt want be one down against its liverpool
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: Mayo4Sam on April 04, 2007, 09:51:12 AM
Giles and chippy both made excellent points about liverpool being fantastic without the ball, the organisation is fantastic. And they had a point about alonso shirking his responsibilities to get on the ball but talk about bullying stevens, and he was perfectly right, getting ur wing backs forward int he first 20 mins would have been stupid.

So it looks fairly certain its onto chelsea or valencia, tough call as to who you would want. We have the beating of chelsea at the minute but would fear drogba. Valencia are excellent but rafa would know them inside out
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: Syd The Sailor on April 04, 2007, 09:52:19 AM
possibly another central defender coz sami getting on.


In fairness Sami is only a reserve at this stage, Carra & Agger are as good a pairing as there is about.
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: brokencrossbar1 on April 04, 2007, 10:10:00 AM
Excellent result which should make the return leg fairly comfortable.  The performance to my mind was suffiicient but must really be seen in light of a very inept opposition.  Whatever about how they played against Arsenal, they were dreadful last night.  Thety were shaky and disorgainised in defence and had to rely on Gomez to pull them out a few times.  Midfiled lacked invention and Cocu for all his attributes is definitely the feet up stage of his career.  With no out and out striker they were never going to be a threat from open play and were only really going to be dangerous on setplays.  They were negative and were only working on damage limitation as opposed to geeting anything out of the game.

Liverpool approached the game correctly in my view.  Going out they didn't know how PSV would really play. Although Koeman said in the press they were going to play a defensive game, managers generally get into this sort of codology to try to unhinge the preparations of the opposition, therefore Liverpool were right to take it cautious at the start and it is amazing that I am agreeing with a former Everton and Rangers player but he called it right.  Chippy and Giles had points, but they treat us like dummies by trying to force it down our throats.  They must think that the viewers have no capacity to think for themselves and therefore have to provide us with opinions we should agree with.  In any event Chippy os still sore that the Gooners are out and that Liverpool spanked them at the weekend ;D

The thing is though that I am not sure this will beat either Chelsea or Valencia and Rafa needs to get them pushing on a bit more.  With Aurelio likely to be out Arbelo is probably going to come in at left back in his place.  Mascherano will keep his place I hope as he is providing more in the middle than Momo and I think provides a better balance to the team as he holds the middle better.  Although the strikers cannot be faulted for their workrate, at least one of them has to start being more of a poacher.  Crouch took his goal well so maybe he is the man to be in and around the box more.

Anyway, the semis beckon and complaccncy is the biggest threat now.  They have to stamp their authority on the return leg early and I think Bellamy should start it as his pace will terrify the central defenders early on and hopefully nick the early goal which will flatten the tie completely.
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: Fr Ted on April 04, 2007, 10:19:19 AM
Despite vowing never to watch the match on RTE, i could'nt resist havin a wee look, then i heard Brady backing the pool to go on a win the CL, the same man who said before the Barca game that the pool had'nt a chance :'(
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: charlie stubbs on April 04, 2007, 12:01:27 PM
CONTRADICTION,A COMMON THEME ON RTE
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: dubnut on April 04, 2007, 12:08:14 PM
CONTRADICTION,A COMMON THEME ON RTE
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I dont think its contradiction, he didnt fancy them v Barcelona and said so.
But they impressed and possibly changed his mind, surely thats allowed.

At the start of the season I didnt think they would win the CL, now I think they might, thats not contradiction, thats football.
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: supersarsfields on April 04, 2007, 12:19:13 PM
Well I think BC more or less summed it up alrite. A good result against poor oppsition. But have no doubt winning 4-1 at the wkend and 3-0 last night should have a postitive effect on confidence going into the business end of the season. They should have at least 4th place sewn up at this stage so winning the CL would be a great finish to the season.
Macherano seems to have been a steal. I have no idea why Unite didn't move for him as I think they would have needed someone like him more so than Liverpool.
But he seems to have cemented himself into the team well and he'll give things a bit of an option in midfield.
Pity about Aurelio. I had doubts over him at the start as I though he was too loose in defending but his crosses were quality and he'll be sorely missed in the run in. But at least we'll get a look at this Aurbelo boyo now.
Crouch is playing well which causes a bit of a problem. I had thought that we should sell him of in the summer for £12 m or so. So now that he's popping in these goals,should liverpool sell him or not. Chances are these goals will push his value up even more if he keeps knocking them in at this rate. you could maybe sqeeze £15m out of some dim club like newcastle. Or would he be worth holding on to?
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: charlie stubbs on April 04, 2007, 12:22:13 PM
"Also Giles was saying Liverpool didn't play well but football is all about the result and not the preformance...Strange then that after the Ireland/Wales match he said it's just as much about the preformance as the result a contradiction or what!!"
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: charlie stubbs on April 04, 2007, 12:24:05 PM
DEPENDS WHO WE ARE GOING TO GET IN.IF WE WHERE TO PAY SILLY MONEY FOR BENT THEN WOULD KEEP HIM BUT IF THE SALE FOR VILLA OR ETO'O WOULD TAKE 12 OR SO
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: dubnut on April 04, 2007, 12:29:09 PM
"Also Giles was saying Liverpool didn't play well but football is all about the result and not the preformance...Strange then that after the Ireland/Wales match he said it's just as much about the preformance as the result a contradiction or what!!"

Charlie thats a contradiction alright!

I was talking about Brady changing his mind.
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: charlie stubbs on April 04, 2007, 12:32:14 PM
apologies dubnut
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: Fr Ted on April 04, 2007, 12:52:18 PM
Dubnut,

Brady said he did'nt fancy the pool to win the CL before the Barca game
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: dubnut on April 04, 2007, 12:54:35 PM
Dubnut,

Brady said he did'nt fancy the pool to win the CL before the Barca game

I know, but either did I, now I do.
Thats not contradiction, If I didnt fancy them and did fancy them at the same time its a contradiction, Brady just changed his mind.
Call the cops
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: GalwayBayBoy on April 04, 2007, 12:55:28 PM
Dare I say it and there was an article in one of the papers recently saying the same thing but I think the lads are getting past their best punditry wise. It's got to the stage now where I know what they're going to say before they come out with it themselves. Last night 5 minutes before half-time I could have come out with their half-time analysis almost verbatim.

Thing is there doesn't seem to be any younger pundits who are ready to take their place. No good ones anyway.
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: J70 on April 04, 2007, 01:03:25 PM
j70 what are u talking about rte has the best tv coverage.joke!i just turn over the odd occassion to have a laugh at how ridiculous they are and the amount of crap they talk.your ideal line up for tv coverage would probably be giles,dunphy and ian wright!

Actually its Giles, Dunphy and Brady.

And the British line-ups must have seriously improved if you think they're better. But each to his own.
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: full back on April 04, 2007, 01:08:31 PM
Best line-up
Hansen, Mc Coist & Dunphy with Lineker in the chair
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: brokencrossbar1 on April 04, 2007, 01:13:38 PM
When you add in Curly Dunphy the 3 boys have become plastic punditry.  They criticise for the sake of it,they do not analyse each game dispassionately as they have pre-conceived ideals as to how a certain team plays and refuse to be moved form that and have viewpoints on managers and players which border on the ridiculous sometimes.  

In essence what they were saying last night was correct to a point but they over-emphasised the value of their own wiews on it.  They have an "I'm right your wrong attitude" which is tiresome and has caused to to start watching CL games on other channels.  

There are few real good younger heads that have been used, Trevor Stevens I rate, if he has time between buying up different clubs Souness is a breath of fresh air.  Apart from that I cannot think of any.  Maybe it is time for them to start throwing the net a wee bit wider to get good ananlysis.

In regards to potential purchases, Crouch and Bellamy i think will go in the summer and Liverpool should net close to £20m for them.  Cisse and Scott Carson are still Liverpool players but their loans will probably be made permanent with some form of transfer fee paid, maybe around £5m for the two of them. This added to the money the new owners are provides them with serious money to invest.  Villa, E'to and a winger would be the top of the order.  I don't know about Alves but rafa likes him so I think he would be likely to be the target.  Bent would not be an option in my view.
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: deiseach on April 04, 2007, 05:25:26 PM
Brady has taken such a venomous attitude to Liverpool's progress in this year's CL that I can't help but feel he is resentful that Arsenal can bust humps over the best part of a decade to win the thing only to have the cup dashed so cruelly from their lips, while Liverpool can bumble along aimlessly and still have more success in Europe over the last ten years than Arsenal have had in their entire history - did someone say 'Valencia', Liam? :D
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: J70 on April 04, 2007, 05:54:01 PM
Aurelio's out for four months with a ruptured achilles tendon.

Its a shame - he was starting to look the part in the last few games, and has been very unlucky with injuries so far.
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: Dubh driocht on April 04, 2007, 06:22:57 PM
Real shame about Aurelio but it's been a great 4 days.Up Brady's hole- shower of begrudgers,bring on the Chelski !
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: charlie stubbs on April 05, 2007, 09:29:57 AM
Real shame about Aurelio but it's been a great 4 days.Up Brady's hole- shower of begrudgers,bring on the Chelski !

mitent be chelski after lnight
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: SlimShady on April 05, 2007, 09:35:38 AM

mitent be chelski after lnight

did you go to school at all Charlie?  :D
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: charlie stubbs on April 05, 2007, 09:46:57 AM
explain
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: SlimShady on April 05, 2007, 09:50:42 AM
Real shame about Aurelio but it's been a great 4 days.Up Brady's hole- shower of begrudgers,bring on the Chelski !

mitent be chelski after lnight

ONeill is a teacher, perhaps he could help you out.
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: Billys Boots on April 05, 2007, 10:00:19 AM
Quote
Brady has taken such a venomous attitude to Liverpool's progress in this year's CL that I can't help but feel he is resentful that Arsenal can bust humps over the best part of a decade to win the thing only to have the cup dashed so cruelly from their lips ...

I think there's an element of truth there alright deiseach, but I don't think anyone said anything that grated with what transpired the other night.  PSV were missing key players and weren't able to mount a serious challenge - Liverpool played well within themselves and won easily.  The debate about whether Benitez stifled creativity in his team/players was inconclusive; I think even Rafa's family would agree that he's, ahem, careful.  What is very clear is that Mascherano has made a significant difference, and has freed up Gerrard to do what he does best - playing with no responsibilities but to himself.
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: cavanmaniac on April 05, 2007, 11:30:59 AM
Really like tho look of Masher so far. But Sissoko is one of Rafa's favourite sons so I'm braced for his return and the inevitable drawbacks it would bring in terms of holding possession, and decent passing in big games where it's paramount to do so properly.
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: charlie stubbs on April 05, 2007, 11:35:33 AM
agree with cm,i rate sissoko but his tendancy to give the ball away cheaply is worrying,masch has a fine range of passing,however, dont forget how immense momo was in the camp nou.now favourites for the cleague i see
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: nifan on April 05, 2007, 11:58:33 AM
Mascherano is twice the player of sissoko.
I appreciate sissokos work ethic, but a player who is there to tackle and disrupt in midfield must be able to consistantly pass to a more creative player, or be able to release players himself, something sissoko is unable to.
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: AZOffaly on April 05, 2007, 12:01:43 PM
Might be a bit early to judge still, but the Maschereno I saw in the last 2 games for Liverpool is the player I thought West Ham signed.

Gerrard on the Right, Maschereno and Alonso in the middle and Riise on the left is a very strong midfield.

Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: Uladh on April 05, 2007, 12:20:01 PM

Mascherano is one of the best midiflders in the world, despite the west ham debacle. how all of the big clubs sat on their hands and allowed liverpool to get him in january i'll never know. united in particular, given their meagre midfield resources, missed a trick.
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: magpie seanie on April 05, 2007, 12:36:59 PM
Most clubs didn't have the political clout to get the rules bent for them to sign him.
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: bingobus on April 05, 2007, 12:40:08 PM
Most clubs didn't have the political clout to get the rules bent for them to sign him.

Exactly right...and hopefully with the Yankee money we can pay a few heads off and re-introduce the back pass rule and watch us conquer England again.

I would re-phase it as been most clubs didn't have the foresight to sign him.
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: brokencrossbar1 on April 05, 2007, 01:01:51 PM
Jaysus seanie you're awful bitter these days.  I know we got him for a song and Utd got Carrick for ....well too much anyway, but that doesn't mean you have to be so hateful about it.

Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: Syd The Sailor on April 05, 2007, 01:20:24 PM
agree with cm,i rate sissoko but his tendancy to give the ball away cheaply is worrying,masch has a fine range of passing,however, dont forget how immense momo was in the camp nou.now favourites for the cleague i see

Dont get too carried away, we are only favourites because we are practically in the Semis, you cant say that about the other teams yet.
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: charlie stubbs on April 05, 2007, 01:26:38 PM
no what your saying syd, when the semi-final pairings known we will prob be pushed out.agree mascherano maybe better than momo but imo he still has a big part to play for lpool for the next few years!
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: GalwayBayBoy on April 05, 2007, 07:20:49 PM
ETO'O: I WOULD LOVE TO PLAY WITH STEVIE G

EXCLUSIVE

By Darren Lewis

05/04/2007

BARCELONA striker Samuel Eto'o has given Liverpool fans the first hint he could be attracted by the new-found riches of Rafael Benitez.

The Cameroon hitman is the top target for the Reds following the the multimillion pound investment of new American owners George Gillett and Tom Hicks.

Widely viewed as one of the best strikers in world football, 26-year-old Eto'o was missing with a knee injury when Liverpool dumped Barca out of the Champions League. But he admits he is a big fan of Anfield skipper Steve Gerrard, Arsenal striker Thierry Henry and the Premiership.

Eto'o said: "I like Liverpool's courage. They have a big red heart. They showed that against us. We did not underestimate them. You have to recognise that in the two games, Liverpool played extremely well. They defend well and are organised. I like Gerrard. He runs a lot. He does everything well.

Gerrard is the best English player. No, change that, at the moment he is the best player in England."

Eto'o told Four Four Two magazine: "I watch English football. I like the crowd because it is always close to the pitch and the stadiums are always full.

"It's not always like that in Spain. We played at Anfield and it was very loud, with lots of different songs. I like that. Football is different in England. It has a place in English hearts." Eto'o also admitted that his love for English football extended outside Merseyside when asked about his top three strikers.

He replied: "Thierry Henry, Thierry Henry and Thierry Henry.

"He is a great player. He is number one of the great players. Great players score goals and for me he is above everybody."

But Eto'o claims he is not actively seeking a move from Barcelona, and added: "I have a contract here until 2010 and I am happy with that."
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: Mentalman on April 05, 2007, 09:23:05 PM
Most clubs didn't have the political clout to get the rules bent for them to sign him.

Well as Rafa said "The rules are the rules. The law is another thing". Your right, UEFA/FIFA would only take one of the 18 or so major European clubs seriously in that regard, in that it wouldn't just be sabre rattling, they actual would launch a case in the EU wrt to labour laws etc. Look what happened with Cork City for example of the dual standards applied. The last thing they want is another Bosman case, which might invalidate their "rules", and weaken their control further. I think such a case is inevitable in any event.
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: J70 on April 07, 2007, 04:50:01 PM
2-1 to Liverpool with a couple of minutes left.

Tough match - Reading have been very good indeed.
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: The Real Laoislad on April 07, 2007, 05:22:14 PM
Champions League football next year is almost assured now,with Arsenal losing as well
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: The Real Laoislad on April 07, 2007, 08:09:01 PM
If Ferdinand is worth 30million going on that basis how much is Carragher worth?
150 million?

Not saying he is worth 150million but if Ferdinand is worth 30 well then....................... :P
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: new devil on April 07, 2007, 10:22:14 PM
That is the biggest pile of shit i ever heard, yes ferdinand had a bad game 2day...but that doesnt make him worse that that hatefull **** carragher
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: The Real Laoislad on April 07, 2007, 10:57:44 PM
Shut up you fool Carragher is ten times the player Ferdinand is
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: new devil on April 08, 2007, 02:50:45 AM
10 times ??? wise up child, theres a place for children like u... HOGANSTAND
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: J70 on April 08, 2007, 03:43:49 AM
10 times ??? wise up child, theres a place for children like u... HOGANSTAND


"...hatefull **** carragher"

Who's the child?
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: blasmere on April 08, 2007, 09:48:51 AM
That is the biggest pile of shit i ever heard, yes ferdinand had a bad game 2day...but that doesnt make him worse that that hatefull **** carragher


Do you actually know Carragher? What is the basis for a childish imbecile-like comment like this?

btw hateful only has one l
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: Carmen Stateside on April 08, 2007, 02:20:02 PM
yaeh New Devil I know you!!!!!!! Stay out of the liverpool thread you upstart! >:(
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: new devil on April 08, 2007, 05:23:38 PM
yaeh New Devil I know you!!!!!!! Stay out of the liverpool thread you upstart! >:(

spill  ;)
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: The Real Laoislad on April 09, 2007, 09:12:00 PM
Arsenal drop points again today,3rd place should be Liverpools now
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: Syd The Sailor on April 09, 2007, 09:13:10 PM


"Cybercop" aka J70 go and cry to your mammy and get a life......
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: J70 on April 09, 2007, 09:35:39 PM


"Cybercop" aka J70 go and cry to your mammy and get a life......

The only children around here are those who have to resort to aggressive and offensive name-calling to get some attention because they have nothing worthwhile to say.
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: J70 on April 09, 2007, 09:38:49 PM
Arsenal drop points again today,3rd place should be Liverpools now

Arsenal would need to be careful or their top four spot might yet be in jeopardy. Bolton are only two behind, albeit with an extra game played and an inferior goal difference.
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: Syd The Sailor on April 09, 2007, 09:41:17 PM


"Cybercop" aka J70 go and cry to your mammy and get a life......

The only children around here are those who have to resort to aggressive and offensive name-calling to get some attention because they have nothing worthwhile to say.

Would you include "Newdevil" in that Serpico?
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: The Real Laoislad on April 09, 2007, 09:45:19 PM
Liverpool favs to win Champions League at 11/4 and its 4/1 for a Liverpool v Man Uinted final :o
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: J70 on April 09, 2007, 09:51:07 PM


"Cybercop" aka J70 go and cry to your mammy and get a life......

The only children around here are those who have to resort to aggressive and offensive name-calling to get some attention because they have nothing worthwhile to say.

Would you include "Newdevil" in that Serpico?

I've already made my opinion of Newdevil's post on this thread known a bit further up the page. I don't keep track of his other posts.
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: The Real Laoislad on April 09, 2007, 10:32:40 PM
Good programme on Sky One at moment... Greatest Goals scored against Man United
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: J70 on April 09, 2007, 10:47:52 PM
Good programme on Sky One at moment... Greatest Goals scored against Man United

Ronnie Whelan, Robbie Fowler, Riise and Patrik Berger are in there, I hope?!
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: The Real Laoislad on April 09, 2007, 10:50:40 PM
Riise's is the best free kick i've ever seen :o

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tzDfQiZsQa4
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: J70 on April 10, 2007, 03:43:03 AM
Riise's is the best free kick i've ever seen :o

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tzDfQiZsQa4


Great shot, no question. I think that was the last time Liverpool beat United in the league at Anfield as well! :-[
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: The Real Laoislad on April 10, 2007, 08:22:05 PM
Morientas on fire for Valencia tonight never saw him play like this for Liverpool
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: Syd The Sailor on April 10, 2007, 08:29:07 PM
Would probably rather play Valencia and i think if Munich get through they will sort the other shower out....
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: deiseach on April 10, 2007, 09:47:36 PM
Riise's is the best free kick i've ever seen :o

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tzDfQiZsQa4


Saw it in the flesh, as I did his mazy dribble which inspired this ditty (to the tune of Waltzing Matilda):

John Arne Riise, John Arne Riise
Ran down the wing and scored at The Pit
And we sang
And we danced
And we shook the ground that's made of wood
John Arne Riise scored against the Shit

Ah, I can feel the endorphins flooding into my system and blotting out any thoughts of tonight's results . . .
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: The Real Laoislad on April 10, 2007, 10:03:13 PM
After watching match tonight i would really have preferred Valencia in semis i didn't see much from them that would trouble Liverpool
You have to wonder how many times Chelsea will lose in semi finals?
 
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: J70 on April 10, 2007, 10:08:32 PM
Chelsea in the semi. Bollocks! They're hard enough to beat without the motivation of the '05 semi to drive them on. Its going to be tough!

(All of this assumes an unprecedented collapse doesn't allow PSV through tomorrow of course!)
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: J70 on April 10, 2007, 10:09:34 PM
After watching match tonight i would really have preferred Valencia in semis i didn't see much from them that would trouble Liverpool
You have to wonder how many times Chelsea will lose in semi finals?
 

Will Liverpool match their hunger?
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: The Real Laoislad on April 10, 2007, 10:10:58 PM
God i hopw so,but im not confident we are gonna win this one :-\
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: deiseach on April 10, 2007, 10:32:50 PM
It's not that I think Valencia would have been an easier tie than Chelsea (PSV, chickens, counts, hatching etc yadda blah), it's that the intensity of another Chelsea semi-final is going to send my blood pressure through the roof :-[
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: The Real Laoislad on April 10, 2007, 10:34:32 PM
It's not that I think Valencia would have been an easier tie than Chelsea (PSV, chickens, counts, hatching etc yadda blah), it's that the intensity of another Chelsea semi-final is going to send my blood pressure through the roof :-[

And just think what it be like if Liverpool were to play United in the final :o :o
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: Norf Tyrone on April 11, 2007, 12:10:28 AM
Fantastic performance by the boys in Blue tonight. Got to agree with Jose and state that this was the best away performance of his time at the Bridge. Caizares made 2 stunning saves to stop Chelsea winning by a greater margin that wouldn't have flattered us.

This side, no matter what people say about their style, is special. To be sitting mid April, with all the adversity that has happened this season, and still by shoting for an unprecadented quadruple is unreal. Some day, hopefully this side will get the credit that they have never received. Sure money can buy you good players, but it can't buy the spirit, hunger and determination onshow tonight.

Joe Cole showed us exactly what we have missed in the 45 minutes he was on tonight. John Obi Mikel....just gets better, and better....and better!

Perhaps we will fold now, and win nothing else, but their efforts have stiil being stunning!

Oh...and good to see both sets of fans shaking hands at the final whistle, and no trouble.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ivs0OQsBwCc (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ivs0OQsBwCc)
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: magpie seanie on April 11, 2007, 09:10:26 AM
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This side, no matter what people say about their style, is special. To be sitting mid April, with all the adversity that has happened this season, and still by shoting for an unprecadented quadruple is unreal. Some day, hopefully this side will get the credit that they have never received. Sure money can buy you good players, but it can't buy the spirit, hunger and determination onshow tonight.

Norf - you are right and when Mourinho sauys this is the season he is proudest of I can see why. A phenomenal achievement to be still fighting on all fronts even with a big squad when you consider the injuries that they've had. Its going to be an interesting end to the season.
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: Over the Bar on April 11, 2007, 10:02:49 AM
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Sure money can buy you good players.....

Being able to out-price any other club in the transfer market is a significant advantage tho!
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: Norf Tyrone on April 11, 2007, 10:06:04 AM
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even with a big squad when you consider the injuries that they've had. Its going to be an interesting end to the season.

Thanks MS....but I believe our squad is small!

We have a 22 man squad, including 3 keepers. Outside of that there are some young lads that we have loaned out, but nothing else!
Consider of the 19 outfield players we've had long termers to JT, Cole, Robben and Boularouhz. Our two creative outlets, and two centre backs!

Cech
A Cole
Maka
Essien
Carvalho
Sheva
Lampard
Boularouhz
J Cole
Drogba
Mikel
Ballack
Geremi
Robben
Bridge
Diarra
Fererria
Kalou
Carlo
SWP
Terry
Hilario
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: magpie seanie on April 11, 2007, 10:40:09 AM
United's squad is of the same number from a quick glance at soccernet (including Chris Eagles who I don't think has played in CL, FA Cup or Prem). Liverpool and Arsenal probably have more players but United and Chelsea have big enough squads.
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: brokencrossbar1 on April 11, 2007, 11:14:40 AM
Anymore than 24 in a squad is too much in my view.  What happens is that players go soft and pick up their money for doing feck all. 

As regards last night a great 2nd half performance by Chelsea.  They have an absolute clinker with Essien and he is the sort of player that would fit into any team.  I am glad he will miss the first leg of the semi!  If Liverpool do a professional job tonight and close the tie out early Rafa should obviously rest as many players as he can. The FA Cup break this weekend is at a good time for Liverpool and should help them prepare for the run in for the final few games of the season.

An early goal tonite would be great.  Crouch I believe is top scorer for the CL ahead of Kaka and Drogba.  You can get him at 8-1 to end up tournament top scorer.  On current form he could get a few tonight and solidify that top scorer spot.  Worth a wee flutter I think ;D
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: Norf Tyrone on April 11, 2007, 11:38:03 AM
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Crouch I believe is top scorer for the CL ahead of Kaka and Drogba.

7 Kaká Milan
6 Ruud Van Nistelrooy Real Madrid
6 Fernando Morientes Valencia
6 Didier Drogba Chelsea
5 Peter Crouch Liverpool

5 Raúl González Real Madrid
4 Claudio Pizarro Bayern
4 Nicolae Dica Steaua

Bold means still in competition.
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: brokencrossbar1 on April 11, 2007, 11:43:53 AM
I stand corrected!  A few tonight probably would do the trick, and is still worth a few bob at 8-1.
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: Norf Tyrone on April 11, 2007, 11:45:07 AM
What price Drogba and Kaka? 8-1 is not bad in what is really a 3-horse race...pardon the pun :-)
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: brokencrossbar1 on April 11, 2007, 11:47:12 AM
I dunno about the other two, but shurely you woulf only put money on Didier ;)
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: GalwayBayBoy on April 11, 2007, 03:37:14 PM
So it's the Chavs in the semis. Not too bothered really. Was going to be a hard game no matter who it was. Can see two more low-scoring tight affairs like 2005. Scorelines like 0-0 or 1-0. So far under the current managers they've had the better of league games while we've had the better of cup games.

Think they are missing Essien for the first game and Drogba, J Cole and Robben are one yellow away from a suspension.

All to play for.
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: The Real Laoislad on April 11, 2007, 03:46:55 PM
Think he should pick strong enough team tonight maybe just leave out those on yellow cards.
Maybe im being over worried but i won't relax until we can score another few goals tonight to make it beyond doubt
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: gawa316 on April 11, 2007, 04:15:19 PM
Can't get the thought of that 6 mins of injury time outta my head the last time we met chelski in the semi's. Has to be the longest 6 mins of my life, especially as that gudjonsen shot whizzed past the post. If we do get through tonight, I am dreading the semi. I hate matches like that, heart racing, butterflies in my stomach etc etc. As for a final against the scum, oh my god!!!!
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: Norf Tyrone on April 11, 2007, 06:32:16 PM
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Can't get the thought of that 6 mins of injury time outta my head the last time we met chelski in the semi's. Has to be the longest 6 mins of my life, especially as that gudjonsen shot whizzed past the post. If we do get through tonight, I am dreading the semi. I hate matches like that, heart racing, butterflies in my stomach etc etc. As for a final against the scum, oh my god!!!!

Remember it painfully well. The Eidur shot made time stand still....and then agony. Hopefully that'll be the spur of revenge that we probably don't need anyhow.

Quote
If we manage to get to the final, is anyone able to get tickets from a reliable source?
I had a man in the FAI but I cant locate him at the minute.

I have a few sources 5times, but not confident on any yet. I'll do you a deal if you get to the final, and I get a ticket you can have it...and vice versa?
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: J70 on April 11, 2007, 07:03:29 PM
Tonight's line-up: Carragher, Gerrard, Mascherano, Finnan rested. Kuyt suspended.

Reina, Arbeloa, Hyypia, Agger, Riise, Pennant, Sissoko, Alonso, Zenden, Crouch, Bellamy

Anyone know who's got yellow card issues?
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: heganboy on April 11, 2007, 07:25:26 PM
would you not have thought this would have been an ideal game for Fowler?
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: Niall Quinn on April 11, 2007, 07:45:34 PM
Anyone else got a bad feeling about tonight?
I'm always scared of teams with nothing to lose.
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: Gabriel_Hurl on April 11, 2007, 08:11:34 PM
Bellamy stretchered off

God on in his place
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: heganboy on April 11, 2007, 08:20:41 PM
and as if by magic, he appears- g'wan God
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: Syd The Sailor on April 11, 2007, 09:06:13 PM
Is it just me or has anyone else noticed that Andy Grays hatred for Liverpool comes out of every pore in his body, he really is a rotten ****.
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: Gabriel_Hurl on April 11, 2007, 09:14:26 PM
Go on the big Crouch-meister
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: heganboy on April 11, 2007, 09:20:41 PM
and God creates the goal...

"PSV are 1-0 down, 4-0 down overall, and Ronald Koeman takes off striker Arouna Kone and replaces him with a defender. Discuss."
BBC Five Live summariser Mark Lawrenson
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: Gabriel_Hurl on April 11, 2007, 09:41:41 PM
Job Done
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: deiseach on April 11, 2007, 09:44:11 PM
Is it just me or has anyone else noticed that Andy Grays hatred for Liverpool comes out of every pore in his body, he really is a rotten ****.

*cough* Bluenose *cough*
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: Syd The Sailor on April 11, 2007, 09:46:33 PM
Is it just me or has anyone else noticed that Andy Grays hatred for Liverpool comes out of every pore in his body, he really is a rotten ****.

*cough* Bluenose *cough*

I know he was a blue nose but he is supposed to be impartial as a commentator.
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: deiseach on April 11, 2007, 09:52:20 PM
I know he was a blue nose but he is supposed to be impartial as a commentator.

Britain's Bitterest (http://forum.liverpoolway.co.uk/forumdisplay.php?f=40)

;D
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: deiseach on April 11, 2007, 10:06:16 PM
Seems it was a right jamboree at Anfield tonight. The calm before the storm . . .
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: Gold on April 11, 2007, 10:11:42 PM
Crouch is Judas in disguise
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: The Real Laoislad on April 11, 2007, 11:36:18 PM
Is it just me or has anyone else noticed that Andy Grays hatred for Liverpool comes out of every pore in his body, he really is a rotten ****.


Couldn't disagree with you more do you not remember GEEERRRRRAAAARRRRDDDDDDD YOOOOUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU BEEEEEEEEEEEEEAAAAAAAAAAAUUUUUUTTTTTTTTTYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JKT-agQE_N8 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JKT-agQE_N8)

Anyway tonights preformance was to be expected no one wanted to get injured or booked so it was never gonna be a classic.
Was delighted to see Fowler getting a game and would love to see him score
Chelsea now in semis...if im honest im not over confident and if i wasn't a Liverpool fanatic i be putting money on a Chelsea Milan final...But i am a Liverpool fanatic so my heart says Liverpool but me head says otherwise
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: deiseach on April 11, 2007, 11:45:58 PM
Couldn't disagree with you more do you not remember GEEERRRRRAAAARRRRDDDDDDD YOOOOUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU BEEEEEEEEEEEEEAAAAAAAAAAAUUUUUUTTTTTTTTTYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY

So he got a bit excited because an English club produced a barnstorming finish exclusively live on Sky Sports. Even that moment was an indicator of another beef I have with Gray, his constant cutting across of the great Martin Tyler.
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: The Real Laoislad on April 11, 2007, 11:47:17 PM
Gray is Scottish............And i doubt he has as much hate for Liverpool as Syd the Sailor seems to think
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: deiseach on April 11, 2007, 11:51:13 PM
Gray is Scottish............And i doubt he has as much hate for Liverpool as Syd the Sailor seems to think

I know he's Scottish, but it's in the interests of Sky to big up the Premiership and Gray is nothing if not a slave of the Dirty Digger.
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: The Real Laoislad on April 11, 2007, 11:52:22 PM
Chesterfield v Middlesborough on sky sports 1 now,if there was ever a team robbed it was chesterfield in that match
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: J70 on April 12, 2007, 12:01:03 AM
Is there a commentator or pundit out there who isn't perceived to be an idiot or doesn't have an alleged grudge against Liverpool and/or Man Utd?
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: The Real Laoislad on April 12, 2007, 12:02:04 AM
Gray is Scottish............And i doubt he has as much hate for Liverpool as Syd the Sailor seems to think

I know he's Scottish, but it's in the interests of Sky to big up the Premiership and Gray is nothing if not a slave of the Dirty Digger.


And ??? You still haven't given your view on if he hates Liverpool or not..I don't care if he bigs up the premiership etc but i have never known him to be a hater of Liverpool..anything but in my opinion
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: magpie seanie on April 12, 2007, 10:43:55 AM
Laoislad seems right to me. Gray is the ultimate hype whore. He was nearly cumming in his pants at United's loss to Pompey last weekend as it livens up the title race - not cos he hates United. Unlike that **** Alan Green.
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: full back on April 12, 2007, 10:47:57 AM
Gray has to hype everything up on Sky - even if it is a woeful game.
If he doesnt he will end up in the back of a van or pitchside freezing his gonads off like Andy, Robbie & Ally!
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: The Real Laoislad on April 12, 2007, 11:23:00 AM
Champions League odds

Outright winner

Chelsea   2/1
Man Utd  2/1
Liverpool  3/1
AC Milan   4/1


Final pairings

Liverpool v AC Milan           7/2
Liverpool v Man United      11/5
Chelsea v AC Milan            3/1
Chelsea v Man United       7/4
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: deiseach on April 12, 2007, 06:13:14 PM
Is there a commentator or pundit out there who isn't perceived to be an idiot or doesn't have an alleged grudge against Liverpool and/or Man Utd?

Gray is the only one I have a grudge against. Listening to him getting his knickers in a twist a few years back over the possibility that Liverpool might score after the alloted two minutes of injury time during the derby was the tipping point for me.

On the other hand, we have Alan Hansen :D
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: Syd The Sailor on April 12, 2007, 09:26:03 PM
Gray is Scottish............And i doubt he has as much hate for Liverpool as Syd the Sailor seems to think

I know he's Scottish, but it's in the interests of Sky to big up the Premiership and Gray is nothing if not a slave of the Dirty Digger.


And ??? You still haven't given your view on if he hates Liverpool or not..I don't care if he bigs up the premiership etc but i have never known him to be a hater of Liverpool..anything but in my opinion

You must watch the matches with the sound turned down......
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: The Real Laoislad on April 12, 2007, 09:27:31 PM
 ::)
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: GalwayBayBoy on April 13, 2007, 02:37:53 PM
IT may be an exaggeration to suggest Peter Crouch has cemented his future at Anfield with his recent blistering spell.

Rafa Benitez has never suggested he wanted to sell the popular striker, while Crouch couldn’t be any more emphatic about his desire to stay on Merseyside.

However, it wasn’t that long ago rumours of a possible summer exit were gathering pace, so the forthright statements on the issue from player and manager have been a welcome consequence of his impressive 17-goal haul.

It’s little wonder Benitez is keen to keep the striker because he epitomises the kind of signing he values most.

In the summer of 2005, Crouch wasn’t the ‘big name’ player the Sky Sports generation craved when Benitez was pondering his striking options.

But Benitez will always prefer young, hungry players with much to prove, rather than superstars.

“I will put my reputation as a manager on Crouch being a good player for us,” Benitez said, in those distant days, now forgotten, when his new signing was trying to score his first goal.

Crouch has since succeeded in turning himself into an ‘A-lister’, seizing an opportunity few predicted would come his way three seasons ago.

And, having grabbed the chance, not surprisingly, he has no intention of letting it slip.

“It’s obviously really pleasing to hear what the manager said about keeping me at the club,” said Crouch.

“The manager is someone who likes to keep his cards close to his chest and sometimes you’re not sure what he’s thinking, so I was happy when I read those comments.

“I knew there were a lot of rumours earlier in the season about other clubs being interested, but I always made my feelings clear when I was asked about the future.

“There’s no way I’d want to leave Liverpool. Where do you go from Liverpool other than to a club at a lower level?

“I love it here and being at a top four club you know you’ve a chance to play in the Champions League every year and continue to compete for trophies.

“I also think there’s a great team developing here and with the help of the new owners we could put in a serious challenge for the Premiership over the next few years. I want to be part of that.”

Numerous recent events have helped Crouch’s cause.

The conclusion of the takeover means Benitez should not have to raise funds through significant sales in order to fund transfers he may see as a priority.

The school of thought that argued doubling money on Crouch made economic sense, even if it was a risk, seems utterly redundant now.

Second, and most importantly, the rate of improvement in a striker with unique talents means if Crouch is valued at £14m today, he should be worth considerably more in the years to come.

Lest we forget, he’s currently competing with Kaka for the Champions League golden boot.

“It’s been going really well for me recently. I’m on a good scoring run and to be in with a chance of finishing top scorer in the Champions League is great,” he said.

“UEFA say I’m on six goals, but I’m definitely counting the qualifying game because that was an important one for us.

“To be up there with such a quality player as Kaka is fantastic. I do take a lot of satisfaction from that. But if you ask me what I’d prefer, I’d rather the team won the Champions League than finish top scorer.

“I feel over the last few years I have proved myself at the top level, whether it’s been the step to a club like Liverpool, the Champions League or internationals.

“That’s down to working with such a good manager who always wants you to keep on improving.

“There are parts of my game I’m still looking to work on. People have mentioned my heading quite a bit this season.

“To be fair, I’ve always scored goals with my head, but there were a few occasions earlier in the season when I should have scored headers. It’s something I was aware of so to get a few recently was pleasing.

“In a funny way, I think the nose operation came at a good time in the season where a little break has done me the world of good.

“When I came back I felt really fresh and sharp and it’s gone on from there. There were a few of us who took time to hit our best form earlier in the season, but now we seem to be clicking at the same time which bodes well for the big games to come.”

If Crouch can eclipse Kaka, the chances are he’ll have helped Liverpool overcome yet another battle with Chelsea.

The striker wasn’t too impressed at being ‘outed’ as a former Chelsea fan on TV in midweek, and is only too pleased to set the record straight.

“I was stitched up a bit with that,” he explained.

“When I was younger my dad did take me to see Chelsea, but when I was with my mates I was more a QPR fan, so it’s not like I was ever a big Chelsea supporter.

“You’ve also got to remember the Chelsea back then was nothing like the Chelsea it is now. I remember going along there when they were in the old Second Division.

“Put it this way, there’s no question where my allegiance is now. I’m firmly in the red camp. The same applies to my dad.

“He’s been travelling to our European games with Jamie Carragher’s dad and his friends, so you don’t have to worry who he’ll want to win.

“We know what the hype is going to be like over the next two weeks and it’s already started. I’m looking forward to everything about it.

“Last time Liverpool played Chelsea at this stage I was on the outside looking in, hoping rumours that Liverpool were interested in me were true and wishing I could be part of such a big game.

“Now it’s going to happen you just want it to come about.

“You’re always focused on the game , but there’s no escaping the attention of such a massive match.”
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: gawa316 on April 14, 2007, 07:27:54 PM
What an awful game today
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: bingobus on April 15, 2007, 01:34:36 PM
18 years today.

RIP the 96. YNWA.
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: Syd The Sailor on April 18, 2007, 12:47:12 PM
Cisse had his chance, just not good enough. I was really excited when he came but Benitez does not fancy him at all
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: heganboy on April 18, 2007, 04:40:49 PM
cisse = collymore II
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: Stalin on April 18, 2007, 06:33:18 PM
www.myp2p.eu/weekdays.htm

follow the links to watch the match online
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: stiffler on April 18, 2007, 07:44:42 PM
that link doesnt seem to be working.
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: J70 on April 18, 2007, 07:48:00 PM
This one works:

http://www.myp2p.eu/Weekdays.htm (http://www.myp2p.eu/Weekdays.htm)
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: stiffler on April 18, 2007, 08:02:39 PM
good man j70
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: Ethan Edwards on April 18, 2007, 10:03:50 PM
Liverpool V Middlesbrough
2-0

Job Done   :)
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: Syd The Sailor on April 18, 2007, 10:05:24 PM
Liverpool V Middlesbrough
2-0

Job Done   :)


Hopefully no injuries and we should put out a shadow team against Wigan on Saturday to get ready for Chelsea. Not too confident, they look almost unbeatable at the minute.
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: nifan on April 18, 2007, 10:13:02 PM
cisse = collymore II

dont think cisse was nearly as talented as collymore, but i see the psycho element ok
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: Syd The Sailor on April 18, 2007, 10:14:52 PM
cisse = collymore II

dont think cisse was nearly as talented as collymore, but i see the psycho element ok

The one common factor was both were lazy, how many times did you see Cisse turning and screaming at a team mate if the ball didnt go straight to him, instead of trying to win it back.
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: heganboy on April 18, 2007, 10:26:41 PM
neither what you would call team players...
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: Syd The Sailor on April 18, 2007, 10:27:22 PM
neither what you would call team players...

And they have both given the Missus a slap.......
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: supersarsfields on April 18, 2007, 11:50:34 PM
Poor enough game the nite. Great goal by Gerard but the rest very forgetable!!
But as said above job done. But showed up a few things. Liverpool never started playing til Sissoko went of. I don't know why we set out with only one striker for a home game. This would have been perfect to give Fowler a full game. Pennant was a constant threat but apart from that we didn't create many chances.
It kills me to say it but Garcia might be a miss after all!!
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: heganboy on April 18, 2007, 11:53:52 PM
What odds on a fowler cl final bow?
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: brokencrossbar1 on April 19, 2007, 09:22:18 AM
Good result, didn't see the game but 3 points and a clean sheet are all that was needed.  As has been said rest a few boys on Saturday and focus on the Chelsea game.  With 3 points guaranteeing CL football next year, a win, however scrappy on Saturday, would allow them to relax against Chelsea.  I checked the last ten games of the two teams and the stats are familar, Liverpool 6 W, 2 L, 2 D,  14 F 4 A Chelsea 7 W, 1 L, 2 D, 20 F, 8 A.    More impirtantly Liverpool had 6 clean sheets and Chelsea only had 3.  They are a bit more porous than they have been in previous years whereas Liverpool have become nearly watertight at the back. 

Heganboy, how does thsi sound.  Liverpool Manure in the Final, 10 minutes to go in Extra Time and God comes off the bench.  Rio trips up the Flying Dutchman as he speeds for the goal and God hammers home the winner!  What a night that would be ;D
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: Syd The Sailor on April 19, 2007, 09:51:23 AM
Good result, didn't see the game but 3 points and a clean sheet are all that was needed.  As has been said rest a few boys on Saturday and focus on the Chelsea game.  With 3 points guaranteeing CL football next year, a win, however scrappy on Saturday, would allow them to relax against Chelsea.  I checked the last ten games of the two teams and the stats are familar, Liverpool 6 W, 2 L, 2 D,  14 F 4 A Chelsea 7 W, 1 L, 2 D, 20 F, 8 A.    More impirtantly Liverpool had 6 clean sheets and Chelsea only had 3.  They are a bit more porous than they have been in previous years whereas Liverpool have become nearly watertight at the back. 

Heganboy, how does thsi sound.  Liverpool Manure in the Final, 10 minutes to go in Extra Time and God comes off the bench.  Rio trips up the Flying Dutchman as he speeds for the goal and God hammers home the winner!  What a night that would be ;D

Sounds good but as long a we beat the bas*ar*s i dont mind if it comes off Rio's ear for an OG...........
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: gawa316 on April 19, 2007, 12:57:11 PM
I reckon team for chelski will look something like this,

               Reina
Finnan, Carra, Agger, Arbeloa
Pennant, Masch, Alonso, Riise
              Gerrard
           Crouch/Kuyt

Nice to see Stevie G come back into a bit of form last night. Lets hope he and the lads can pull out a result on wednesday night
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: brokencrossbar1 on April 19, 2007, 01:06:14 PM
No arguments here for that team gawa.  I reckon he'll play Kuyt away for definite as he works harder than Crouch.  That really is the strongest team at the minute as Pennant is showing better form and The two boys in the centre are as good a partnership as has been in the club game for a very long time.  They work very well together. 
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: corn02 on April 19, 2007, 01:23:08 PM
That will be the team for Cheslea with Crouch starting. I for one would bee pleased with it.
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: heganboy on April 19, 2007, 01:53:56 PM
Bc,
I'd settle for that no problem. Of course an 8 minute hat trick wouldn't be too bad either...
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: brokencrossbar1 on April 19, 2007, 02:06:58 PM
That would only happen against an easy team like Arsenal though heganboy :P
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: corn02 on April 19, 2007, 03:43:42 PM
Will anyone else find it hard to watch the match if it is us and the Mancs?
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: full back on April 19, 2007, 03:48:02 PM
If it is us & the Scousers I would have to watch it in the house with the phone off the hook.
Although opposing teams Corn I know what you mean
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: Syd The Sailor on April 19, 2007, 03:50:22 PM
If it is us & the Scousers I would have to watch it in the house with the phone off the hook.
Although opposing teams Corn I know what you mean

If its us and United i am gonna get a load of cash on United to win and hopefully the bet will fail, if we do get beat may as well make a few quid !
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: bingobus on April 19, 2007, 03:51:32 PM
Will anyone else find it hard to watch the match if it is us and the Mancs?

It would be a game where the emotion (plus long term suffering) of losing would outweigh the emotion of winning.

Far rather lose to Chelsea in the semi than lose to United in final.
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: The Real Laoislad on April 19, 2007, 03:55:03 PM
Will anyone else find it hard to watch the match if it is us and the Mancs?

I remember when Liverpool were making comeback against Milan my auld lad who was just over a triple heart bypass was sitting beside me and was holding his chest all way thru extratime and penos,he said it was worse than the bypass the emotions he went through that night,I think playing United in the final would finish him off altogether and me for that matter :-\
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: gawa316 on April 19, 2007, 04:39:28 PM
To be honest I don't even want to think about the possibility of that match until it actually occurs. Gettin that churning feeling in my stomach already. It'll be watched in the house by myself with no outside communication near hand and a bottle of vodka in the freezer. It'll be either drunk on route to the pub if we win or slumped on the sofa conptemplating suicide
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: The Real Laoislad on April 21, 2007, 02:29:37 PM
According to soccer saturday Gerrard is palying today
I be happy with a draw and no injury's from todays match
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: Carmen Stateside on April 21, 2007, 02:34:35 PM
no way!! :(
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: The Real Laoislad on April 21, 2007, 02:40:20 PM
which? Gerrard or a draw
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: Square Ball on April 21, 2007, 02:44:36 PM
your mob are on PPMate
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: Carmen Stateside on April 21, 2007, 02:46:00 PM
gerrard!! Surely they can leave him out today?
Could I get a link? Please :)
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: The Real Laoislad on April 21, 2007, 02:47:16 PM
Sorry i actually meant to say ISN'T PLAYING not IS :D
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: Carmen Stateside on April 21, 2007, 02:48:46 PM
Feck me had me going there!
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: Square Ball on April 21, 2007, 02:52:08 PM
gerrard!! Surely they can leave him out today?
Could I get a link? Please :)

sent you a PM
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: Carmen Stateside on April 21, 2007, 03:09:47 PM
Cheers SB ;)
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: J70 on April 21, 2007, 03:33:51 PM
1-0 Kuyt

Terrific cross from Gonzalez. Keeper messed up though.
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: The Real Laoislad on April 21, 2007, 03:34:41 PM
was it a good goal? who scored? im watching the Laois match
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: The Real Laoislad on April 21, 2007, 03:35:30 PM
Ok just see you had Kuyt as scorer :-[
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: J70 on April 21, 2007, 03:36:59 PM
Good header from Kuyt, but the keeper missed the cross entirely!
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: J70 on April 21, 2007, 03:54:46 PM
correction... pennant hit the cross
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: anportmorforjfc on April 21, 2007, 04:03:25 PM
has it been all liverpool so far?
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: Carmen Stateside on April 21, 2007, 04:28:46 PM
2 - 0 Kuyt again
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: Carmen Stateside on April 21, 2007, 04:30:20 PM
brought on gerrard ???
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: The Real Laoislad on April 21, 2007, 05:05:08 PM
Handy win no injury worries,Bring on Chelski :D
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: charlie stubbs on April 23, 2007, 10:11:08 AM
see pennant played well sat with another assist he is starting to justify the price tag at last,doubt rafa at your peril! :)
would go for
reina,finnan,cara,agger,riise,pennant,alonso,mascherano,bellamy,stevie g,kuyt.  reason would play bellamy left midfield is that he did well there in nou camp and this is the area of the pitch that we can expose chelsea.they have played essien,diarra,boulhourouz,geremi and ferreira there this season and the only one who fills me with confidence is essien who will bw utilisied sumwhere else im sure.i think milan could be big threat in the comp,they remind me of us in 2005,played poorly,but then get a great result like us v juve05 and them v bayern away.especially now that utd are "playing with 12 players" and have a back four like f**k all! :D
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: bingobus on April 23, 2007, 10:22:50 AM
Can see Rafa starting with 5 midfielders for the away leg with Gerrard playing off Kuyt - Alonso and Sissoko (would prefer Mascharano myself) Pennant one side and Riise the other. Full backs Finnan and Arbelo with Carra and Agger at CB.

It wouldn't be pretty and can't see either side making too many chances. Would happily take a 1-1 or any score draw.

Pennat has been playing well and it seems he has the confidence that he lacked at start of season. His delivery has also improved. Hopefully he will be able to keep Ashley cole busy on Wednesday and limit his attacking runs.
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: gawa316 on April 23, 2007, 10:27:06 AM
Is Essien the only player suspended for the russians?
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: GalwayBayBoy on April 23, 2007, 11:33:40 AM
Is Essien the only player suspended for the russians?

Yes.

Drogba, Robben, Joe Cole all one yellow away from a suspension.

Get Drogba booked on Wednesday much like how Gudjonsen got Alonso booked in 2005. ;D
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: brokencrossbar1 on April 23, 2007, 11:37:30 AM
I think Essien is the only major player suspended.  Rafa will play the 4-4-1-1 with Gerad behind either Crouch or Kuyt.  Abelaro will be left back with Riise in front of him.  I think that Chelsea will go all guns blazing early on to try to knock the back hard.  This would suit Liverpool if they keep it tight as they are better on the counter than having to press a game.

Odds of 5-1 for Liverpool-Milan Final, or so I heard earlier.  With Inter having won the Scudetto and Milan in CL spot, and Liverpool guaranteed at least 4th, both teams can concentrate all their energy into the CL.  The fact that Chelski and Manure are doing so well in so many competitions will go against them.  Ideally a away win, but a score draw would be a satisfactory result.
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: J70 on April 24, 2007, 01:25:53 AM
Good to see scumbags like this won't be tolerated...

SPECTATOR BANNED FROM ANFIELD

Jimmy Rice 23 April 2007

A spectator caught chanting racist abuse during this season's home match against Manchester United has been given a three-year football banning order.
Jonathan McInally, from Back Lane in Little Crosby, was arrested following an undercover police operation during the game on March 3.
 
The sting, in which a plain-clothes officer was positioned in the Anfield Road Stand, was mounted after a complaint from a fellow spectator.
 
McInally was hauled before North Liverpool Community Justice Courts last week, where he pleaded guilty to racist chanting.
 
As well as an order banning him from all football stadia, the 25-year-old was fined £200.
 
A spokesperson for Merseyside Police said: "We take this type of behaviour very seriously. We will not tolerate any type of racist chanting.
 
"Just because someone is at a football match, it does not mean that they can behave as they like. We will not stand for any racist behaviour."
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: SlimShady on April 24, 2007, 08:58:14 AM
banned for racist chanting but Munich songs, stoning ambulances, throwing cups full of shite at away fans and singing songs about a players broken leg as he lies on the field are all acceptable?

scumbags? Tolerated? never  :-\
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: gawa316 on April 24, 2007, 09:21:18 AM
banned for racist chanting but Munich songs, stoning ambulances, throwing cups full of shite at away fans and singing songs about a players broken leg as he lies on the field are all acceptable?

scumbags? Tolerated? never  :-\

Maybe you should sort out your own back yard before slaggin' others. Kettle, pot and black spring to mind
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: bingobus on April 24, 2007, 09:41:10 AM
Ignore Slims attempts to get an argument going. Pointless exercise, he's after the Tony Fearon Crown.

The BBC have reported that Michael Essien has been arrested on suspicion of Drink Driving in the early hours of Monday morning. I know he is suspended for the tie anyway but would this have any bearing on his long term future in the English game? One hell of a player.
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: supersarsfields on April 24, 2007, 10:13:34 AM
Ahh Slim people in glass houses and all that. Surely we wouldn't have to bring up united's exceptional support in Europe this season would we!! ::)
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: SlimShady on April 24, 2007, 10:34:14 AM
when did United fans do any of the above?
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: Syd The Sailor on April 24, 2007, 10:46:26 AM
Slim please make your way back to the Manure thread in a prompt fashion......
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: SlimShady on April 24, 2007, 10:49:59 AM
*bites nails*

*shits pants*


f**k off Sailor  :D
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: AZOffaly on April 24, 2007, 10:51:22 AM
Lads, why does every thread turn into the two of ye throwing insults at a) each other and b) each other's club. Do ye know each other? Would it not just be better to set up your own private thread?
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: The Real Laoislad on April 24, 2007, 10:54:37 AM
BENITEZ: OUR IDEA IS TO WIN
Mark Platt 24 April 2007  liverpoolfc.tv
  As Liverpool apply the finishing touches to their preparations for the Champions League semi-final first leg at Stamford Bridge, Rafa Benitez insists they aim to return with a win. 
The Reds squad will fly down to London later today ahead of Wednesday's tie and Benitez admits confidence in the camp is high.
 
"Our idea is to win if possible," says the boss. "Sometimes you have to play counter-attack and sometimes press high, it depends on the situation. But it would be good to score a goal and come away with the win.
 
"This is a very good positive situation for us and you have to approach games like this with confidence.
 
"We know them, they know us, that is clear and at the end of the day it could be just the small details that make the difference.
 
"Chelsea have been champions in this country for the last two years and they are a very strong side, especially at home. Maybe they are a better side than two years ago but we also have more experience now and I think we can do it."
 
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: SlimShady on April 24, 2007, 11:03:37 AM
AZ its the first time i've spoken to the sailor and no, i do not know him thankfully. i asked a question on this thread and was told to f**k off, none of the bin dippers saw fit to answer the question either.
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: The Real Laoislad on April 24, 2007, 11:22:42 AM
Bit of gossip for ye from a Liverpool FC forum i post on from time to time but it's probably bolix ;)

Celtic's SFA Player of the year Nakamura and  Sabrosa of Benfica could be wearing the Red of Liverpool next year
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: Syd The Sailor on April 24, 2007, 11:23:24 AM
AZ its the first time i've spoken to the sailor and no, i do not know him thankfully.

Slim i didnt know you felt so strongly......
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: supersarsfields on April 24, 2007, 12:09:49 PM
Naw slim united fans didn't do that alright. They just got stuck in to the opposing fans, tore seats up from the stadiums, and fought with the police. Classy real Classy!!




Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: SlimShady on April 24, 2007, 12:11:25 PM
compare the two then.

a good oul riot never harmed anyone....oh wait, i forgot about Hysel!
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: AZOffaly on April 24, 2007, 12:12:57 PM
Slim, that's a bullshit post. Edit it for God's sake.

Why score points off an incident like Heysel? Do you think Liverpool fans are not ashamed of Heysel or something?

This infantile abuse on the LFC and MUFC threads is crap.
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: The Real Laoislad on April 24, 2007, 12:17:02 PM
I agree with my BIFFO friend
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: Mentalman on April 24, 2007, 12:19:27 PM
One thread, "funny" footie songs, was already terminated on the back of this crap, but some people don't want to play nice.

What I find completely laughable about it all is this "we" sh!t. Any of you would be likely to get a good box in the mouth on the strength of your accent alone in most of these North England cesspits. Grow the fcuk up.
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: supersarsfields on April 24, 2007, 12:35:50 PM
What I find completely laughable about it all is this "we" sh!t. Any of you would be likely to get a good box in the mouth on the strength of your accent alone in most of these North England cesspits. Grow the fcuk up.

And I laugh at people who complain about people who support a club refering to them as "we". Why the hell wouldn't I say we?
And as for the second part I've been over to liverpool many a time and never once received a " Good box in the month" due to my accent. Nor any of my mates.

a good oul riot never harmed anyone....oh wait, i forgot about Hysel!

And as for Slim, you were ( Rightly) complaining about Liverpool fans signing about Munich or about Smith and you come out with this crap. That's the bit I was on about glass houses, and you prove the point for me!!

Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: Mentalman on April 24, 2007, 12:57:51 PM
What I find completely laughable about it all is this "we" sh!t. Any of you would be likely to get a good box in the mouth on the strength of your accent alone in most of these North England cesspits. Grow the fcuk up.

And I laugh at people who complain about people who support a club refering to them as "we". Why the hell wouldn't I say we?
And as for the second part I've been over to liverpool many a time and never once received a " Good box in the month" due to my accent. Nor any of my mates.

a good oul riot never harmed anyone....oh wait, i forgot about Hysel!

And as for Slim, you were ( Rightly) complaining about Liverpool fans signing about Munich or about Smith and you come out with this crap. That's the bit I was on about glass houses, and you prove the point for me!!



Count yourself lucky then, I can relate many stories of my own and others expericnes of both Liverpool and Manchester, I've been attending spoorting events in both cities for over 15 years, but this recent beauty will suffice:

Group of Irish women on a hen night. Note I use women, not girls, these were mostly married and in their late 30s. At the end of a very eventful night, and not in a good way, they are queueing for a taxi back to their hotel. Just as they are about to get their cab 3 lads jump the queue ahead of them. One of the women, foolishly, sits into the front seat of the cab, and points out it's theirs. "Fcuk off out of it you Fenian whore" was used among other phrases. One of our heroes then proceeds to grab the woman by the back of the hair and belt, throws her from the cab, and then stands on her whilst asking do any of the other "Irish bitches" want to argue with him about it. Oh, did I neglect to mention the woman was also pregnant? I'll leave out the club of the jersey the guy was wearing, as it's irrelevant to the story. My point is the hardcore of the people who live in these cities don't give a fiddler's fcuk about you, you are not part of their "we", and you can see that on any of their discussions boards when Irish subjects are brought up. Then to come on here bandying insults and scoring points about events most of you know next to nothing about, and where real people died? Pathetic. I'm betting some of you aren't even old enough to actually have witnessed Heysel, maybe not even Hillborough? Well after those I could never try and take the hand about Munich etc.
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: The Real Laoislad on April 24, 2007, 01:03:46 PM
I must admit i do use "we" but only in relation to Liverpool FC i have no love or affinity to Liverpool City or its people I've been a Liverpool fan since i was 5 so thats almost 25years and the term "we" is just something i use i don't even think bout it when i say it but it's the club i follow not the city
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: Gabriel_Hurl on April 24, 2007, 01:08:47 PM
Lads - f**k off with this shite will ye's
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: Syd The Sailor on April 24, 2007, 01:15:44 PM
Lads - f**k off with this shite will ye's

Quick lads knock it off before the boul Hurl locks this thread......
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: supersarsfields on April 24, 2007, 01:16:07 PM
Feel free to point out were I insulted anyone mental man.
Slim came on here to make a dig at liverpool supporters because the actually took ACTION against someone regarding loutish behaviour. And it's well know that Slim likes to take a pop at anything he can regarding Liverpool. Which is fair enough if he wants, I was pointing out that United fans were hardly angels either. And you'll see earlier that I condemned any signing about Munich or anything like that.
And I'm sorry about that story, it's not nice. But Shit like that doesn't just happen in Liverpool or "North England cesspits". I've ran in to trouble in both Dublin and Belfast in my time. So are they "Irish holes" then?
And if the hard core fans in these cities don't like me, tough. I'm not supporting the city, or the people in it. I'm supporting the team. And to be honest I don't know why I should have to justify saying "we" about anyone.

Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: brokencrossbar1 on April 24, 2007, 01:16:34 PM
Like Laoislad, I have been a fan of Liverpool for years, my first solid memory being the 1984 European Cup Final and Brucie(he was always my hero, even after the dodgy hands)  I would sometimes refer to Liverpool FC as us/we and think little of it.  Mentalman, that could have happened to a crowd of English girls on the streets of Dublin or Cork with some drunken lout in a shamrock rovers jersey  :P or a cork jersey or any jersey and it would not have been acceptable.  I have been in the company of fans in numerous places without any fear, and in fact the only place I was scared was in Belfast in the week before the Ireland England game in 1993 but that is another story!
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: J70 on April 24, 2007, 01:19:40 PM
I agree with my BIFFO friend

Indeed. Rather ironic that gobshites who make generalizations and complaints about Liverpool fans see nothing wrong with casually using the label "bindipper"!

Some fans of both clubs on this board seem incapable of having an adult discussion of the teams.
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: The Real Laoislad on April 24, 2007, 01:22:46 PM
Lets get back to the footy

Any team news for tomorrow night? Im persuming it will be Kuyt/Crouch up front?
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: J70 on April 24, 2007, 01:23:15 PM
And another thing you can be sure of is that many of the United fans who were defending and rationalizing the events in Rome and Manchester last month (very possibly with complete justification) would be expressing outrage, talking about typical Liverpool supporter behaviour, and refusing to accept any defense such as police provocation and over-reaction if it had been Liverpool fans and not United fans in that situation.
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: The Real Laoislad on April 24, 2007, 01:24:56 PM
or maybe Aldridge/Rush?? (Just checking to see if anyone's bothered with football matters anymore)
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: Mentalman on April 24, 2007, 01:32:05 PM
Supersarsfields, the whole comment wasn't aimed at you, apologies if it seemed that way, obviously you did condemn the Munich comments. It was more a carry over from the previous threads about "funny" songs and some of the carry on with regard to both Utd. and the 'Pool on here over recent weeks.

I'm sure many similar stories can be picked out about incidents in other cities. The point of this story, and plenty of others, was people being singled out because of their Irishness. I'm a supporter too, and enjoy a bit of p!sstaking with my friends who support rival clubs, but there's a limit to it, and for me that's where people start living and dying, it's only a game at the end of the day. Also personally I stopped talking about "we" years ago, when it was made obvious "we" weren't really wanted - "we" are just "woollybacks" after all.
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: Gabriel_Hurl on April 24, 2007, 01:36:32 PM
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Quick lads knock it off before the boul Hurl locks this thread......

 ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) - it'll not be locked - as long as you keep your racist comments out of it
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: brokencrossbar1 on April 24, 2007, 01:38:21 PM
All the reports that I have been reading is that it will be 4-4-1-1 with Gerard behind either Crouch or Kuyt.  I initially thought it would be Kuyt, but havea notion he will play Crouch because of his goals in europe this season.  

I have to say I am very nervous, which is not helped by the fact that I will not be able to see it as I have to head away.  I fear Chelsea at the minute and can only hope than the fatigue factor over the two legs is going to be beneficial.  

I don't think Liverpool will let more than 2 in tomorrow night, but they need to score to make sure they go through in the second leg.
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: Syd The Sailor on April 24, 2007, 01:39:30 PM
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Quick lads knock it off before the boul Hurl locks this thread......

 ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) - it'll not be locked - as long as you keep your racist comments out of it

How did you feel about Slims reference to Heysel, ok to mention 35 people dying but as long as we are PC you are happy.....
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: SlimShady on April 24, 2007, 01:42:46 PM
ahoy there Sailor,

Slim didnt say anything that was untrue. Heysel happened.
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: The Real Laoislad on April 24, 2007, 01:45:30 PM
I couldn't see Chelsea scoring two against Liverpool not with the defense we have this season
Being totally honest i think Chelsea will win the tie,but if tiredness is a problem for them we may just do it
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: magpie seanie on April 24, 2007, 01:49:04 PM
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How did you feel about Slims reference to Heysel, ok to mention 35 people dying but as long as we are PC you are happy.....

The nerve of you to post this after some of the shite you've posted previously.
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: Gabriel_Hurl on April 24, 2007, 01:49:29 PM
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How did you feel about Slims reference to Heysel, ok to mention 35 people dying but as long as we are PC you are happy....

You are as bad as each other
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: SlimShady on April 24, 2007, 02:00:08 PM
Mr Whiter than White Hurl, please point out anything I've said that is untrue and I shall duly Edit it.

if not, please refrain from comparing me to Uncle Albert over there.
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: Syd The Sailor on April 24, 2007, 02:04:08 PM
Mr Whiter than White Hurl, please point out anything I've said that is untrue and I shall duly Edit it.

if not, please refrain from comparing me to Uncle Albert over there.

You should not speak ill of the dead.......and im referring to Uncle Albert before Hurl has a fit  ;)
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: Gabriel_Hurl on April 24, 2007, 02:15:41 PM
Personally - I think we should line out like this

Reina

Finnan Carragher Agger Arbeloa

Alonso Mascherano

Pennant Gerrard Riise


Crouch
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: The Real Laoislad on April 24, 2007, 02:19:20 PM
Personally - I think we should line out like this

Reina

Finnan Carragher Agger Arbeloa

Alonso Mascherano

Pennant Gerrard Riise


Crouch


Wouldn't have Pennant i'd have Kuyt/Crouch with the other 4 you mentioned across the middle
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: Gabriel_Hurl on April 24, 2007, 02:20:22 PM
I think Rafa will only play one up front in the away leg. But who are we to judge gim

In Rafa we trust
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: supersarsfields on April 24, 2007, 02:23:11 PM
Naw LL you got to play Pennant. I wasn't a big fan to be honest, but he's hit some great form at the minute. Up front, I reckon Crouch to start with but i'd have Kuyt on around the hr mark. Just to try and see how tired the Russians really are!!
Any word of their line-up?
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: brokencrossbar1 on April 24, 2007, 03:22:11 PM
http://home.skysports.com/list.aspx?hlid=462954&CPID=8&clid=14&lid=2&title=Rafa+coy+on+Torres+talk&channel=football_home&

I can't copy the article across for some reason, but Liverpool now strongly linked to Torres.  Aparently he has "You'll never walk alone" tatooed on his arm.  I certainly would prefer him to Villa and he could be the one to be a 20 + goals a season for us.
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: full back on April 24, 2007, 03:37:38 PM
Aparently he has "You'll never walk alone" tatooed on his arm. 

Seen this in the paper. It isnt tatooed on his arm, but it is on the inside of his captain's armband. The armband came loose & you can clearly see "You'll never walk alone" on the inside of it.
Would p1ss you off slightly of you were an Athletico Madrid fan.
Lucky he doesnt play for the Hammers or he would be a dead man walking
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: brokencrossbar1 on April 24, 2007, 03:41:33 PM
I just read it wrong full back.  I reckon he could be a great signing if it comes off as I reckon Bellamy is on his way to Villa, with God off to the states, Torres, Crouch, Kuyt and A.N Other would be a nice mix of strikers, with that wee fcuker Garcia to come back as well.
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: full back on April 24, 2007, 03:44:02 PM
Would be a super signing if Benitez persuades him to go.
Just what the scousers are missing at the moment-a top class striker who consistently hits 20+ goals a season
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: The Real Laoislad on April 24, 2007, 03:54:10 PM

Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: magpie seanie on April 24, 2007, 03:57:54 PM
Maybe he's a Celtic fan?
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: brokencrossbar1 on April 24, 2007, 04:06:16 PM
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Maybe he's a Celtic fan?

Or the Rogers and Hammerstein Musical Carousel?  Or Gerry and the Pacemakers?
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: Gabriel_Hurl on April 24, 2007, 05:44:30 PM
Jose is getting in good preparation for tomorrow night


Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: Square Ball on April 24, 2007, 09:55:22 PM
Jose says Chelski have played 27 games in 2007 and you lot 4, cheeky monkey
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: The Real Laoislad on April 24, 2007, 10:10:15 PM
Jose Mourinho has cranked up the heat on the eve of Chelsea's UEFA Champions League semi-final with Liverpool by claiming he would not be surprised if The Reds attempted to get Didier Drogba booked.

Ivory Coast star Drogba is one of a number of Chelsea players one booking away from a suspension and Mourinho feels Liverpool could attempt to force him into a rush of blood which would lead to a caution.

The Portuguese tactician has also accused Liverpool striker Dirk Kuyt of picking up a deliberate booking in the first leg of their quarter-final win over PSV Eindhoven in order to serve a suspension in the second leg.

"We don't have four important players and there is another factor that can play an important part and that is that they don't have yellow cards," Mourinho said on Sky Sports News.

"They had the chance even to clean cards. You see for example when Kuyt gets a yellow card in the last minute against PSV it is because he does not want to play the second game in order to be clean for the rest of the competition.

"Chelsea had a group with Werder Bremen, a group with Barcelona, two games with Porto and two games with Valencia and we have Essien suspended and a lot of players with two yellow cards.

"And it would not surprise me tomorrow if they chase Drogba for 90 minutes and try to get him suspended for the second game."

Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: J70 on April 24, 2007, 11:21:50 PM
banned for racist chanting but Munich songs, stoning ambulances, throwing cups full of shite at away fans and singing songs about a players broken leg as he lies on the field are all acceptable?

scumbags? Tolerated? never  :-\

Where was this tolerated? The club apologised for the ambulance thing. Smith himself thanked the club and supporters for their behaviour on the day, correctly recognizing that a small minority of scumbags does not typify the behaviour of all Liverpool or any other fans.

What would you have the club do about the person who threw the shit? Was he identified?

And the Munich songs are returned with gusto by United fans' with their songs about Hillsborough etc.

Yourself and Syd post this crap to get a rise. I doubt if either of the two of you are stupid enough to believe the shit you write.
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: Norf Tyrone on April 25, 2007, 01:57:25 AM
Big night tonight at the Bridge, looking forward to it immensely. Don't think there will be many goals, and would settle for 1-0 at the minute. Ballack's loss is magnified due to Essien's suspension, but I hope, nay pray that Lord Percy makes it. To be honest if Carvalho misses out, I'd be concerned.
Going into the tie Liverpool should start favourites, due to their experience at this level, and the lack of fatigue. Truth be told they have been gearing towards this game for 2 weeks.

Chelsea Probable
Cech
Diarra
JT
Percy
A Cole

Maka
Obi Mikel
Lampard

Drogba
Shevchenko
J Cole
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: el_cuervo_fc on April 25, 2007, 08:32:29 AM
I dunno about liverpool goin in favourites.  The bookies have a liverpool win priced at 3-1.  Still confident. 

It would be great if mourinho's prediction of a drogba yellow card worked out   ;)
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: Syd The Sailor on April 25, 2007, 09:43:19 AM
Liverpool are not favourites regardless of what Chelsea say. They may be tired but when you spend £500million or whatever on a squad you should have no excuses. Liverpool are 11/4 with Eastwoods tonight i think. Essien is a huge loss for Chelsea, their best player in my opinion. Score draw would do tonight.
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: magpie seanie on April 25, 2007, 09:52:45 AM
According to Graham Hunter Carvalho plays as does Makalele. Chelski team as follows:

              Cech

Diarra   Carvalho   Terry    Cashley

           Makalele

   Obi Mikel       Fat Lamps

          Joe Cole

  Drogba        Shevchenko
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: SuperDooperCooper on April 25, 2007, 01:48:42 PM
Good or bad news? - hard to see either player figuring before the end of the season.
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Liverpool fans will be delighted with the news that both Harry Kewell and Luis Garcia are making great strides in their recovery from injuries.

The Reds duo have been out of action for some time now, but could just make it back in time for the final few games in the Premiership and Champions League run-in.

Winger Kewell has not featured at all this season for the most successful team from Merseyside after he played through the pain barrier for Australia at last summer's World Cup.

The former Leeds United player is back in full training now at Melwood, and could make a surprise return to the Liverpool squad for their remaining fixtures.

Spanish playmaker Luis Garcia is another player fighting back to fitness after falling down injured in a cup tie against Arsenal in January.

He isn't as close as Kewell is to a comeback, but could be fit in time for the Champions League Final - if Liverpool make it there.
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Think we need to score tonight - hard to see Chelsea not scoring over the 2 legs like 2 years ago.
Head ruling heart 1-2 with Gerrard getting the goal....
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: Tony Baloney on April 25, 2007, 05:05:30 PM
Mourinho has won a mediocre Premiership after spending about £350 million on players. Hardly broke much delft himself.

The one he really wants (and I'm sure his employer Mr. Abramovich wants too) is the Champions League. Mark one in the Rafa Benitez column for that one!
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: Ethan Edwards on April 25, 2007, 05:38:14 PM
                      Jose

Finnan       Jamie     Agger         Arebola

Stevie G    Alonso    Mascarano    Riise

        Crouch        Kuyt


WHAT YOU THINK
SCORE 1 - 1
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: Gabriel_Hurl on April 25, 2007, 06:37:52 PM
Liverpool team:

Reina

Arbeloa
Carra
Agger
Riise

Gerrard
Alonso
Mascherano
Zenden

Kuyt
Bellamy

Subs:
Dudek
Hyypia
Gonzalez
Crouch
Pennant
Sissoko
Paletta




Zenden?
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: The Real Laoislad on April 25, 2007, 06:45:42 PM
Is that the offical team Gab Hurl?
Surprised with Zenden if it is
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: Gabriel_Hurl on April 25, 2007, 06:58:37 PM
Finnan - sore neck
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: The Real Laoislad on April 25, 2007, 07:09:14 PM
1-1 draw i predict
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: The Real Laoislad on April 25, 2007, 08:06:40 PM
20mins gone 0-0 I think we are riding our luck a little Chelsea should have at least scored one
I think we are missing Steve Finnan,A couple of times now a cross has come in from Riise  and it files straight over head of Chelsea defense to other side of pitch with no one there from Liverpool to collect,Finnan would always be there to send it back in again
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: superblues on April 25, 2007, 08:17:50 PM
1 0 joe cole
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: ExiledGael on April 25, 2007, 08:18:14 PM
1-0 Cole, can't say it hasn't been coming, defence can't handle Drogba at all
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: Syd The Sailor on April 25, 2007, 08:55:00 PM
Get Zenden off to f**k
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: ExiledGael on April 25, 2007, 09:01:55 PM
True, he's bad, but Bellamy was far worse and deserved to be hauled off.
Only five seven fouls in the first half according to Andy Gray, know he's a p***k but that's pretty tame stuff!
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: The Real Laoislad on April 25, 2007, 09:40:19 PM
Frustrating >:(..Never looked liked scoring,As for Zenden ???  ::)  is all i can say
Very disapointing overall and I think we have left ourselves with too much to do
Arbeloa was terrible as well
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: Gabriel_Hurl on April 25, 2007, 09:53:39 PM
Disappointed with the performance - but we got away lightly tonight with the result tonight.

We were terribly narrow in the middle - and had no creativity
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: The Real Laoislad on April 25, 2007, 10:29:35 PM
Disappointed with the performance - but we got away lightly tonight with the result tonight.

We were terribly narrow in the middle - and had no creativity

Thats the best way to desribe tonight no creativity,How many times did Zenden have a chance to send in a good cross? Surely after 60mins he should have brought Gonzalez or Pennant on?
So another comeback needed at Anfield it's been done before but I can't see Liverpool winning 2-0 or 3-1 and so on,Also can't see it going all the way to penos
We are crying out for a 25 goal a season striker,Kuyt just isn't a top class finisher and Bellamy is not the player we had hoped he was
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: J70 on April 25, 2007, 10:38:03 PM
Its not over yet lads! It'll certainly be very tough, and the advantage is obviously very much with Chelsea, but lets see what happens. One crappy deflected Liverpool goal a la Frank Lampard, and its game on!

Of course, if Chelsea score first, its over. If that happens, they could get two or three on the break as Liverpool will have no option but to throw caution to the wind.
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: Ethan Edwards on April 25, 2007, 10:59:37 PM
Dont think we deserved anything out of the game tonight, infact we were lucky only to lose by 1 goal. All is not lost,
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: The Real Laoislad on April 25, 2007, 11:14:40 PM
I admire yer optimism lads and i wish i could share it with ye,but im very doubtful but i hope im wrong
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: J70 on April 26, 2007, 12:28:50 AM
I'm not exactly optimistic. I think Chelsea are overwhelming favourites at this point and are well capable of keeping a clean sheet. However, Liverpool have pulled big performances out before when given little chance. They're only a goal behind and the second leg will be a massive night at Anfield. All it takes is one goal. It could be a hell of a lot worse.
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: Carmen Stateside on April 26, 2007, 12:47:48 AM
Another Historical European night in Anfield awaits!! and I cant feckin wait we are still in this cup tie I beleive we can do it! Good luck to the lads next week!! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VyKNTP1QbX4

 ;D ;D
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: SlimShady on April 26, 2007, 08:36:01 AM
that match was f**king woeful and its sad to see such shite played in the semi-final of the European Cup. No exciting players on either side apart from a minor glimpse of Drogba but that was overshadowed by the silly big nonce diving all over the show and he should have been booked.

If Chelsea score at the Stadium of Bindippers then they go through, there is no way i can see Liverpool score 3 times. Especially after last nights efforts.
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: The Real Laoislad on April 26, 2007, 08:53:04 AM
that match was f**king woeful and its sad to see such shite played in the semi-final of the European Cup. No exciting players on either side apart from a minor glimpse of Drogba but that was overshadowed by the silly big nonce diving all over the show and he should have been booked.

If Chelsea score at the Stadium of Bindippers then they go through, there is no way i can see Liverpool score 3 times. Especially after last nights efforts.

::)
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: SlimShady on April 26, 2007, 08:55:29 AM
Also, i hear the scumbags were singing about Alan Ball at last nights game.

They really are different gravy.
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: SlimShady on April 26, 2007, 09:55:37 AM
it was on talksport this morning, a steward at the ground!!

also, great behaviour from the fans by throwing bottles and coins at an injured player.

also reported was bottles of what looked like piss being thrown.

my comments are exactly that-MINE, and you 5ive Times, will read them  ;)
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: johnneycool on April 26, 2007, 09:58:12 AM
Was the great tactician, Beniitez up to his work last night?

Has he lulled Chelsea into a false sense of security by letting them think that Liverpool are that shite with Zenden and Arbeloa staying on the full game?

Is it all part of the master plan?
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: SuperDooperCooper on April 26, 2007, 09:59:26 AM
Terrible performance last night, terrible team picked and terrible changes made. Not one of Rafa's better nights at the office.
Agger learned more last night that he did in his career to date, Riise had his worst game of the season.
Midfield/up front didn't look like they would score if they were there until next week - Cech's save from Gerrard was more routine than world class.
The only positive from last night is that it was only 1-0, thought Chelsea deserved a lot more especially with the header in the last minute (thought it was in).
Can't see Liverpool scoring three so if Chelsea score that's it. Chelsea overwhelming favourites to go through.
Liverpool need to splash the dollars to get a decent centre forward in the summer.
Lads at work saying Dunphy had a go at Rafa after the match - does anyone watch the three grumpy old men anymore?
Title: FAO Syd The Wailer
Post by: full back on April 26, 2007, 10:07:15 AM
Not doing much mouthing this morning Syd The Wailer :D
Fcukin mouthpiece

How do Liverpool fans feel about Zenden?
Jaysus, he was woeful last night - the ball came down his wing a number of times in the 2nd half but he seemed incapable of getting a decent 1st touch or putting a decent cross in-how he stayed on the full game is baffling.
Gerrard looked inept last night, which is not like him in a big game.
As for that diving b4stard Drogba, he was good last night, but FFS the way he drops & whines everytime someone touches him is a disgrace. Book the b4stard & he will soon wise himself up.
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: Norf Tyrone on April 26, 2007, 10:09:52 AM
Great night fo the Blues last night, and a good result. Would've took 1-0 with bellls on before the game, and fairly confident of Athens now!!

The definitive game of 2 halves. Chelsea excellent in first half, with the big man Drogba scaring the s**t out of the Pool back 4 especially Agger. However hopefully we don't regret not getting the 2nd or 3rd goal that could've came.
Liverpool more it it in the second half, but only tested Cech with Gerard's excellent half volley.

The ref I thought was decent last night, only the lack of a card for the persistant fouling of Alonso, and the free kick that shoul've been given for the hand ball the only grips.

KTBFFH...........


PS...Is Syd about?  :D
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: Syd The Sailor on April 26, 2007, 10:17:38 AM
I am in position, thanks for asking  ;)
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: Goats Do Shave on April 26, 2007, 10:17:47 AM
Lads at work saying Dunphy had a go at Rafa after the match - does anyone watch the three grumpy old men anymore?

For once I could understand where Dunphy was coming from. Liverpool were poor last night. How Zendan is even a proffesional footballer nevermind playing for Liverpool is beyond me!!!

When I seen Alonso coming off I thought Rafa had lost the plot myself!

They persisted with these long balls up to the front...when Crouch wasn't even on the field!!! Hello Terry & Carvalho...2 of the best headers in the premiership!! - Lucky to escape with 1-0.

Chelsea were up for that!
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: Syd The Sailor on April 26, 2007, 10:40:59 AM
They did well to keep it at 1-0, at least we know Zenden will not be playing next week, he is missing one ingredient you need for a wide left player, pace. I would not be overly confident next week but maybe Chelsea will s*it the togs again next week like 2 yrs ago and big brave JT will be crying like a p*sy again.
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: full back on April 26, 2007, 10:43:24 AM
I am in position

Rafa says open wide Syd
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: Syd The Sailor on April 26, 2007, 10:49:29 AM
I am in position

Rafa says open wide Syd

 ;D  ;D  ;D
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: SlimShady on April 26, 2007, 10:49:52 AM
by the way, is Andy Gray riding Stevie Gerrard or whats the craic? its cringeworthy stuff every time he opens his gob about him.
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: Tony Baloney on April 26, 2007, 10:53:14 AM
With the performance the 'Pool put in last night 1-0 away from home is a decent result. You'd like to think they'll not play as poorly again and Rafa must realise that persisting with Zenden was a big mistake.

Oh and Drogba is a horrible cheating piece of shit.
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: Norf Tyrone on April 26, 2007, 10:55:42 AM
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I would not be overly confident next week but maybe Chelsea will s*it the togs again next week like 2 yrs ago and big brave JT will be crying like a p*sy again.

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Oh and Drogba is a horrible cheating piece of shit.

 ;D Would yous not be better off looking in house, at your fans behaviour last night chaps?
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: full back on April 26, 2007, 10:57:31 AM
Norf Tyrone, are you saying Drogba isnt a lying, cheating b4stard? :D
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: Syd The Sailor on April 26, 2007, 11:01:06 AM
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I would not be overly confident next week but maybe Chelsea will s*it the togs again next week like 2 yrs ago and big brave JT will be crying like a p*sy again.

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Oh and Drogba is a horrible cheating piece of shit.

 ;D Would yous not be better off looking in house, at your fans behaviour last night chaps?

Listen have we any control over the fans? I think we have a right to voice an opinion on the team, and they can steal all the hubcaps and eat all the rats they want for all i care, as long as the team do the business i wont worry about the crime rate in Liverpool
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: Norf Tyrone on April 26, 2007, 11:01:59 AM
Drogba isnt a lying,
Dunno I never heard him lie about anything! However I'd say like 99% of the population he probably has lied at some point in his life.

cheating
Fair enough. He has in the past, and still does dive too much for my liking. Remember last season how the Chelsea fans booed his every touch because of this! Never head Man U or Liverpool fans boo Ronaldo, or Gerard when they dive.

b4stard?
Don't know this either to be honest, but if his parents weren't/aren't married it's not that important to me.
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: full back on April 26, 2007, 11:15:01 AM
Catch a grip Norf Tyrone, some of antics last night were a disgrace. If there is ever any pushing or shoving in a game he is first in mouthing & throwing his size about, yet if anyone touches him, he drops like he was taken out by a sniper. That in any man's book is lying & cheating
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: An Fear Rua on April 26, 2007, 11:31:07 AM
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Listen have we any control over the fans? I think we have a right to voice an opinion on the team, and they can steal all the hubcaps and eat all the rats they want for all i care, as long as the team do the business i wont worry about the crime rate in Liverpool

you should bare that in mind when you start slabbering about 'fans' of other clubs.

Chelsea started that game very aggressively, and will regret they didnt score more than one, its all up for grabs at anfield, thankfully from a football point of view the home need two to win, so will make for an more open game at least at the start. If liverpool get two in the first hour, you can expect them to be borrowing that bus from Martin Jol..
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: Uladh on April 26, 2007, 11:39:31 AM

Watching liverpool play soccer is akin to wiping your hole repeatedly with sandpaper after a weekend on bad stout.
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: full back on April 26, 2007, 11:42:24 AM

Watching liverpool play soccer is akin to wiping your hole repeatedly with sandpaper after a weekend on bad stout.

Thats rich coming from an Armagh man.

At least he wipes his arse more than 2/3 times a year 5times :D
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: Norf Tyrone on April 26, 2007, 11:55:26 AM
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Catch a grip Norf Tyrone, some of antics last night were a disgrace. If there is ever any pushing or shoving in a game he is first in mouthing & throwing his size about, yet if anyone touches him, he drops like he was taken out by a sniper. That in any man's book is lying & cheating


Am I arguing with you?
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: Gabriel_Hurl on April 26, 2007, 01:25:16 PM
He's a self-confessed cheat - that's what I hate so much about him.

If he cut that shit out - I'd respect him a bit more - because you can see - he's a quality player
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: Dinny Breen on April 26, 2007, 01:27:06 PM
Liverpool fans calling Drogba a cheat yet they have an even bigger cheat on their team, aka Stevie G  ::)
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: Gabriel_Hurl on April 26, 2007, 01:32:22 PM
Was I saying Stevie G is a saint? His diving antics are cringe-worthy at times. I have no time for cheats at all
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: SuperDooperCooper on April 26, 2007, 01:35:08 PM
Dinny - thats a bit rich coming from a fella who supports the team containing the greatest diver of them  - Mr R Pires.......
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: Dinny Breen on April 26, 2007, 01:41:26 PM
Didn't say you did but I just hope you see the irony...

I have little or no interest in premiership/CL soccer outside Arsenal anymore, it's a sport that has lost it's way and it annoys me to see people calling this player a cheat or that player a cheat yet rarely attack the players on the team they support. For the record Eboube, Ronaldo, Drogba and Gerrard and the biggest cheats around imho, throw in the likes of Rooney, Ashley Cole, Bellamy etc etc and it really is a sport that epitomises greed. Gordon Gekko would be proud, the sooner salary caps are introduced the better....
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: Gabriel_Hurl on April 26, 2007, 01:42:00 PM
Arsenal players are never known to cheat either

 ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::)


Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: SlimShady on April 26, 2007, 01:43:09 PM
Mr R Pires plays in Spain at the minute and scored against Barca at the weekend.

Are you a Villareal fan Dinny?
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: full back on April 26, 2007, 01:44:17 PM
throw in the likes of Rooney, Ashley Cole, Bellamy

That's right Dinny, throw in a player from each of your biggest rivals ::) ::)
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: Dinny Breen on April 26, 2007, 01:46:33 PM
Since when did I support Villareal? But when Pires was an Arsenal player he was a diving cheat and his dive against Portsmouth was gamesmanship at its worse. If you ever read the Arsenal thread myself and O'Neill in particular constantly attack Eboube for his cheating, he is a disgrace. I just wish people would recognise cheats for what they are and not defend them because of who they play for. These guys are highly paid professional athletes they need to start acting like the role models which sadly they are suppose to be.....
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: Dinny Breen on April 26, 2007, 01:49:26 PM
I won't defend Arsenal players Pires and Eboube are constant cheats as are Drogba, Ronaldo and Gerrard. That Viera incident is shocking and yes he cheated but he wasn't a constant cheat, even the boy Roy Keane wasn't adverse to the odd dive.
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: Goats Do Shave on April 26, 2007, 02:02:14 PM
even the boy Roy Keane wasn't adverse to the odd dive.

EH????
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: Dinny Breen on April 26, 2007, 02:09:32 PM
Has everyone here got only one eye or something  ::)

Roy Keane Diving

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fcLmbUQPYzs (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fcLmbUQPYzs)
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: Uladh on April 26, 2007, 02:20:20 PM

Trevor Francis is right, no way was that a free kick... stone wall penalty
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: Declan on April 26, 2007, 02:20:44 PM
Lads everyone who has played ball has at one stage or another gone down easily as they say. The issue with Drogba is that he's a serial offender and goes down as if he's been shot.
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: 5 Sams on April 26, 2007, 02:25:01 PM
Elleray would have sent Keane off for farting...was the second yellow not for getting involved in handbags with Hendry and Co...
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: bingobus on April 26, 2007, 02:35:36 PM
Lads, bit of a free for all today - discussing fans, diving, you supports who, who plays for who, etc.

Name of thread - "Liverpool Supporters Thread". Alot are use just posting to have a cheap shot but I'd hold off till the tie is over, not at halftime.

The game it self was disappointing, toothless up front and a bit careless at the back. If Steve Finnan was playing I don't think Cole would have got that goal. Agger should have also dealt with it better. Chelsea did create the better chances and could have won by 2-0 without dominating possession.

Second leg will be tight again and may go to extra time. Chelsea will be happy to play on the break which will be dangerous for both teams, as Liverpool are bound to get a few clear chances while Chelsea can play on the break and to their strength.

Couple of grips about last night - Crouch gets penalised for his height. He gets up early for a ball, wins the header, Cech jumps with him but is caught under him and wins a cheap free out. Not saying it was a goal chance but eased the pressure.

Also Maureen has no shame - claiming it was a penalty as "fact" yet it was clearly outside the box and weather it was a free was debatable. He was clearly relying on second half info, as the replays show he didn't react during the actual incident.

Heard commentatotr comment that Crouch hasn't scored when subbed on. You would imagine that he would be an impact sub with his height but obviuosly needs to start. And needs wingers to supply him i.e Pennant.
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: SlimShady on April 26, 2007, 02:38:29 PM
Crouch put his arm across that of Cech. That was obvious to anyone and is blatantly clear in the replay.
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: gawa316 on April 26, 2007, 02:55:47 PM

Also Maureen has no shame - claiming it was a penalty as "fact" yet it was clearly outside the box and weather it was a free was debatable. He was clearly relying on second half info, as the replays show he didn't react during the actual incident.


Just to add to that, the twat slated us for playing long ball to crouch when he came on. Well what the f**k was that **** cole doing everytime he got the ball...thats right pumping it up to that other **** up front. Does he not realise the irony of what he says. Goes back to slating Barca for diving...this is the ultimate irony when he has the likes of robben, drogba etc not to mention his porto team
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: bingobus on April 26, 2007, 02:58:59 PM
To me Crouch got up early and had his Arms up (which is natural when jumping), Cech jumped under him and was restricted by crouch but not as a result of a foul. I thought the replays showed that Crouch eyes were fixed on the ball.

But i would expect you keepers to stick together.
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: full back on April 26, 2007, 03:01:54 PM
Well what the f**k was that **** cole doing everytime he got the ball...thats right pumping it up to that other **** up front.

Wouldnt mind being from Chelsea - quite a lot of cnuts there :D
What do you really think of them gawa?
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: lurganblue on April 26, 2007, 03:02:44 PM
Elleray would have sent Keane off for farting...was the second yellow not for getting involved in handbags with Hendry and Co...

this could all be very true but nevertheless he dove.

ronaldo, drogba etc are in a complete league of their own in this diving crap. what ever happened to a player being tripped or kicked but still trying his best to stay on his feet.
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: gawa316 on April 26, 2007, 03:08:20 PM
Well what the f**k was that **** cole doing everytime he got the ball...thats right pumping it up to that other **** up front.

Wouldnt mind being from Chelsea - quite a lot of cnuts there :D
What do you really think of them gawa?

They are all c***ts..well maybe a few twats in there aswell. However they are effective at what they do. Strong defense...hit long balls to drogba...knock downs to midfield...deflected goals.
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: Declan on April 26, 2007, 03:33:02 PM
Was it just me or did Stevie G jump in with both feet on Carvalho in the second half last night??

Wasn't mentioned and he didn't catch him but I thought he tried to do him??? 
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: Norf Tyrone on April 26, 2007, 03:47:07 PM
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Also Maureen has no shame - claiming it was a penalty as "fact" yet it was clearly outside the box and weather it was a free was debatable. He was clearly relying on second half info, as the replays show he didn't react during the actual incident.

Mourinho had the grace to apologise after the game in the press conferance. He stated it should've been a free-kick, and the ref made a mistake. However stated that he also made mistakes, and that the ref had a fairly good game.
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: bingobus on April 26, 2007, 04:04:43 PM
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Also Maureen has no shame - claiming it was a penalty as "fact" yet it was clearly outside the box and weather it was a free was debatable. He was clearly relying on second half info, as the replays show he didn't react during the actual incident.

Mourinho had the grace to apologise after the game in the press conferance. He stated it should've been a free-kick, and the ref made a mistake. However stated that he also made mistakes, and that the ref had a fairly good game.

Mourinho initially complained that referee Markus Merk had missed a "clear" penalty offence when Liverpool's Alvaro Arbeloa handled.

However, after watching replays which showed the incident was outside the area, the Chelsea boss tempered his comments.

"I don't know whether it was inside or outside the area," he said.

"For me the referee was top, but he made a mistake with the handball. It was a big mistake, but if it's a free kick it reduces the possibility of us scoring.

"He made a mistake, but normally the mistakes are against Chelsea."

Grovelling apology alright  ::)
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: Norf Tyrone on April 26, 2007, 04:14:41 PM
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'It was handball for sure. If it's inside the box and a penalty or outside the box and a free kick is something I cannot say.
 
But the referee had a very good game. He controlled a game like this with one yellow card - it could be two: one for Javier [Mascherano] and one for Alonso. No more than that. The players were super-correct.
 
For me the referee was top but, like everybody can, he made a mistake with Arbeloa's handball. But we all make mistakes, me, the players, the ref, even Syd The Sailor! If it's a penalty or free kick, I don't know but it's one decision against us - a big one. But it's not fair to say the referee is responsible for the 1-0 scoreline and with this handball decision it could be 2-0. For what we did in the first-half, we had more than enough chances to score two, three or four goals. We had big chances to score so 1-0 is very short.
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: Norf Tyrone on April 26, 2007, 04:17:05 PM



 ;D
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: Gabriel_Hurl on April 26, 2007, 04:20:38 PM
only 39,000?

tut tut tut
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: GalwayBayBoy on April 26, 2007, 07:58:30 PM



 ;D

Bit early to be gloating NT.

Woudn't want you to put the mockers on your team or anything.
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: J70 on April 26, 2007, 09:44:07 PM
Something to stick on the door of the home dressing room next Tuesday evening!
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: The Real Laoislad on April 26, 2007, 09:45:50 PM
Good game on sky sports 2 FA Youth Cup Final
Liverpool 1 - 0 Man United
its 2-2 on agg now in extra time
Liverpool have some good youngsters,Jimmy Ryan looks good not sure if he's Irish or not
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: Syd The Sailor on April 26, 2007, 10:00:57 PM
Good game on sky sports 2 FA Youth Cup Final
Liverpool 1 - 0 Man United
its 2-2 on agg now in extra time
Liverpool have some good youngsters,Jimmy Ryan looks good not sure if he's Irish or not

Liverpool should be out of sight by now, sound familiar ?? !!
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: The Real Laoislad on April 26, 2007, 10:06:01 PM
Haven't seen all match,Does away goals not count? If they do United are ahead as they scored two at Anfield
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: Syd The Sailor on April 26, 2007, 10:07:17 PM
Haven't seen all match,Does away goals not count? If they do United are ahead as they scored two at Anfield

No will go to penalties.
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: The Real Laoislad on April 26, 2007, 10:12:41 PM
All over peno's it is so
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: Norf Tyrone on April 26, 2007, 10:12:51 PM
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Bit early to be gloating NT.

Woudn't want you to put the mockers on your team or anything.

Canna help myself GBB. It's a life time of Manc and Scouse gloating that has turned me into the bitter man I am today.

Gabriel....The 39 thousand odd was a few K short of capacity, but WAS a sell out. UEFA put some strange rules in place from the last 16 phase that requires extra TV cameras, which shuts parts of the ground! Madness!
Tickets changing hands in the Fulham Rd for around £300 last night!
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: Syd The Sailor on April 26, 2007, 10:25:43 PM
Liverpool Youth Cup Winners 2007, beat the scum on penalties after 2-2 overall draw. The wankers on United thread dont seem too bothered this week but were shooting their mouths off last week when United won the 1st leg
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: The Real Laoislad on April 26, 2007, 10:32:11 PM
Lay off it Syd no need for that

Liverpool win on penos,good game and Liverpool have a couple of youngsters coming thru who look like they might make it
Hope the senior team were watching and see how to win a second leg from a losing position
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: Syd The Sailor on April 26, 2007, 10:35:22 PM
Lay it off Syd no need for that

Well its true whether you like it or not, do you think they wouldnt be on the Liverpool thread sticking it to us if they won tonight? They had plenty to say last week. So i will give it to them every chance i get.
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: The Real Laoislad on April 26, 2007, 10:42:44 PM
You also posted this on the Man Utd thread Syd

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I have went on the record before ladies about how i wouldnt attach too much significance to the Youth Cup

So don't  just jump on bandwagon now they have won it
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: superblues on April 26, 2007, 10:43:57 PM
well done liverpool deserved the win tonight some good players on both sides
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: corn02 on April 26, 2007, 10:44:53 PM
Syd maybe you should have watched the respect between the players before making stupid comments.

Excellent display by Liverpool, totally destroyed United, especially in second half. I have been watching Lingfield for a while now, he is a class act and surely has a future in the senior squad, as does Spearing.

It may not have shown tonight but the long haired midfielder, the Swedish boy? he is quality too.
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: Syd The Sailor on April 26, 2007, 10:49:07 PM
You also posted this on the Man Utd thread Syd

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I have went on the record before ladies about how i wouldnt attach too much significance to the Youth Cup

So don't  just jump on bandwagon now they have won it

And i still stick by that but it always gets the juices going when you beat United at any level. I would be surprised if more than 2 of that team establish themselves in the first team.
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: The Truth on April 26, 2007, 11:05:33 PM
You also posted this on the Man Utd thread Syd

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I have went on the record before ladies about how i wouldnt attach too much significance to the Youth Cup

So don't  just jump on bandwagon now they have won it


Laoislad are you Gandhi in disguise?
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: An Fear Rua on April 27, 2007, 12:05:41 AM
Liverpool Youth Cup Winners 2007, beat the scum on penalties after 2-2 overall draw. The wankers on United thread dont seem too bothered this week but were shooting their mouths off last week when United won the 1st leg

thought it didnt matter to you.....

Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: Syd The Sailor on April 27, 2007, 08:28:26 AM
Liverpool Youth Cup Winners 2007, beat the scum on penalties after 2-2 overall draw. The wankers on United thread dont seem too bothered this week but were shooting their mouths off last week when United won the 1st leg

thought it didnt matter to you.....

It doesent but i cant resist a chance to give them a bit of stick, they cant have it both ways, slabbering when they won the 1st leg & totally erasing all memory of the competition when they are beaten.
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: full back on April 27, 2007, 10:14:25 AM
Fcuk, you are some w4nker sidney
Well done to the Liverpool Youth team
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: Syd The Sailor on April 27, 2007, 10:24:13 AM
Fcuk, you are some w4nker sidney
Well done to the Liverpool Youth team

Cheers boss  ;)
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: An Fear Rua on April 27, 2007, 10:34:22 AM
How often do you lads get to anfailed? any regulars?
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: bingobus on April 27, 2007, 10:50:05 AM
Not anywhere near a regular. 4 times this year, best I've managed in few years. Can't manage midweek games so have missed out on the Euro's.

I know a few who are Euro regulars and don't go to league games.

Why you ask? Is this going to turn into a "part-time supporter rant"?
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: Uladh on April 27, 2007, 10:54:23 AM

Well done to the Liverpool Youth team

Cheers boss  ;)


What position were you playing in?
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: An Fear Rua on April 27, 2007, 10:58:13 AM
just curious is all , it will only turn into a rant if you start ranting...
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: bingobus on April 27, 2007, 11:08:35 AM
just curious is all , it will only turn into a rant if you start ranting...

Apologies, no ranting. Getting paranoid round this thread as must things end up in a rant.
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: full back on April 27, 2007, 11:16:48 AM
TBH Bingo, IMHO, Most of the Scouse supporters on here are genuine, know their football & enjoy the slagging (giving & taking), but it is the likes of sidney the wailer that turns every topic in a mud-slinging shit talking session
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: bingobus on April 27, 2007, 11:38:15 AM
TBH Bingo, IMHO, Most of the Scouse supporters on here are genuine, know their football & enjoy the slagging (giving & taking), but it is the likes of sidney the wailer that turns every topic in a mud-slinging shit talking session

I totally agree and generally have learnt to stay away until these little "mines bigger than yours" rants are over. I enjoy a bit of slagging on the boards with genuine fans who will engage in a bit of banter and debate. Somehow with the likes of these around it will always end up in a school boy slagging match.
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: The Truth on April 27, 2007, 11:43:04 AM
TBH Bingo, IMHO, Most of the Scouse supporters on here are genuine, know their football & enjoy the slagging (giving & taking), but it is the likes of sidney the wailer that turns every topic in a mud-slinging shit talking session

Maybe you should have a word with Slimfast & New Devil, bindippers, rateaters hubcaps etc zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: SlimShady on April 27, 2007, 11:48:26 AM
TBH Bingo, IMHO, Most of the Scouse supporters on here are genuine, know their football & enjoy the slagging (giving & taking), but it is the likes of sidney the wailer that turns every topic in a mud-slinging shit talking session

Maybe you should have a word with Slimfast & New Devil, bindippers, rateaters hubcaps etc zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

Tony isnt here any more!!
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: magpie seanie on April 27, 2007, 11:49:03 AM
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Maybe you should have a word with Slimfast & New Devil, bindippers, rateaters hubcaps etc zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

Bit of a difference with this and glorying in a plane crash that killed players nearly fifty years ago.
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: supersarsfields on April 27, 2007, 11:53:13 AM
Or in a crush were people were killed.
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: Tony Baloney on April 27, 2007, 11:53:56 AM
Aye Syd wise up. You've probably only been supporting Liverpool since May 25th 2005. I reckon you've been a Leeds, Blackburn, Man United, Arsenal and Chelsea fan in the past  ;)
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: Syd The Sailor on April 27, 2007, 11:58:12 AM
Aye Syd wise up. You've probably only been supporting Liverpool since May 25th 2005. I reckon you've been a Leeds, Blackburn, Man United, Arsenal and Chelsea fan in the past  ;)

Not guilty, as Rooney once said "once a blue, always a blue" ooopsss, maybe not a great example
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: Syd The Sailor on April 27, 2007, 12:02:43 PM
TBH Bingo, IMHO, Most of the Scouse supporters on here are genuine, know their football & enjoy the slagging (giving & taking), but it is the likes of sidney the wailer that turns every topic in a mud-slinging shit talking session

Maybe you should have a word with Slimfast & New Devil, bindippers, rateaters hubcaps etc zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

Tony isnt here any more!!

He has a few clowns claiming to be him though......
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: An Fear Rua on April 27, 2007, 12:03:26 PM
Or in a crush were people were killed.

when has anyone "glorified" or revelled in Hillsborough on this board?? your on autopilot on this one.
It was a tragedy, and changed the shape of english football, IMHO for the worse.
Munich was a tragedy, as was Hysel,Bradford, Ibrox, Burnden park etc, we would all do well to remember that.


Bingo looks like your the only person who has actually gone to a game !!
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: supersarsfields on April 27, 2007, 12:47:34 PM
No auto pilot required.

Quote from slim earlier in the tread when discussing the rows at United games.

a good oul riot never harmed anyone....oh wait, i forgot about Hysel!


If you don't find this distasteful or to be honest down right scummy then fair enough. For me comments like that are every bit as bad as singing about Munich.

And I've been to a few games aswell. Not as many as I'd like but a few. What has that to do with anything?
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: SlimShady on April 27, 2007, 01:55:56 PM
No auto pilot required.

Quote from slim earlier in the tread when discussing the rows at United games.

a good oul riot never harmed anyone....oh wait, i forgot about Hysel!

If you don't find this distasteful or to be honest down right scummy then fair enough. For me comments like that are every bit as bad as singing about Munich.

And I've been to a few games aswell. Not as many as I'd like but a few. What has that to do with anything?


whats wrong with what i said? Liverpool fans caused the Hysel disaster, simpli sin!! Have i poked fun at the dead? No.

that was said in direction to a post by someone who was revelling in the fact United fans were involved in a riot in Rome. I merely pointed out that yer own supporters (''the best in the world'' yer havin a laugh!!) have the worst record in Europe.
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: supersarsfields on April 27, 2007, 02:01:08 PM
If you don't have a problem with it Slim that down to yourself.

personally I found it a distasteful comment. in the end of the day people still died. So how is that sort of a comment any worse than people saying a flippant comment Munich?
Both are scummy.
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: SlimShady on April 27, 2007, 02:02:47 PM
yes people died, and its a shame. Liverpool fans caused it, and thats a fact. Flippant my hole.
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: Gabriel_Hurl on April 27, 2007, 02:03:36 PM
again with this bollocks?
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: supersarsfields on April 27, 2007, 02:10:31 PM
And what Slim? you're the only one round here that brings up the "Best supporters in the world crap" I don't here any of the Liverpool supporters mentioning anything like that. And it's been you and Sid that's been coming out with the shit about Munich and Hysel.
So in my eyes you's are both as bad as each other.

Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: SlimShady on April 27, 2007, 02:12:24 PM
ok, you win. anything to shut you the f**k up you whingeing big girls blouse.

Hurl, I argue no more with this fool and you bindippers can post in peace for a day or two...until the ECL Final...i hope!
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: supersarsfields on April 27, 2007, 02:16:52 PM
Ouch!!

 :D
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: corn02 on April 27, 2007, 03:44:49 PM
An Fear Rua, get over to a couple a year. Not as much as I would like but funs/ lack of tickets is a problem at the moment. I do believe I am on the season ticket list but I also hear 27,000 others are too.

You a United man, do you get over to Old Trafford much? Who you think will win the semis next week?
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: An Fear Rua on April 27, 2007, 03:55:47 PM
I get to OT about 20-25 times a season, and prob about 15 away games, then again I only live around the corner from OT.

Semi are hard to call, as I mentioned elsewhere, If liverpool get an early goal, and then stiffle chelsea with Martin Jols bus, Id prob expect them to go through, but it will be brutal to watch.

As for Utd and Milan, Utd have agreat chance , and I full expect them to score out there, BUT the complete lack of a top class defence will cost them. How much they pay will have to be seen.

All in all Ive no idea, everyone is in with a shout.
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: GalwayBayBoy on April 27, 2007, 07:18:53 PM
How often do you lads get to anfailed? any regulars?

Usually get over 3 or 4 times a season. Only been once this season though (I was in Barcelona though as well for the quarter-final game) as I was away during the 6 nations and am saving for a trip to the World Cup in September.
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: The Real Laoislad on April 27, 2007, 10:55:43 PM
Wonder what kind of team he puts out tomorrow?
I have a draw backed,and in fairness i'd take it with no injurys  ahead of Anfields greatest night to be on tuesday
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: Syd The Sailor on April 27, 2007, 10:58:05 PM
Wonder what kind of team he puts out tomorrow?
I have a draw backed,and in fairness i'd take it with no injurys  ahead of Anfields greatest night to be on tuesday

He should put the reserves out tomorrow. There is no point in taking a risk with anyone that will be involved on Tuesday. Result is irrelevant.
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: J70 on April 27, 2007, 10:59:50 PM
Wonder what kind of team he puts out tomorrow?
I have a draw backed,and in fairness i'd take it with no injurys  ahead of Anfields greatest night to be on tuesday

I can't see too many of the first choice playing. I think Portsmouth will probably nick it. They need the points for a UEFA spot, while they mean nothing to Liverpool, beyond the hollow prize of finishing third.
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: Syd The Sailor on April 27, 2007, 11:05:07 PM
May as well give Fowler a runout and give him a chance to bow out with a goal or two before the season is over. One of the best there has been in Premiership albeit for a short period of time.
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: The Real Laoislad on April 27, 2007, 11:24:17 PM
May as well give Fowler a runout and give him a chance to bow out with a goal or two before the season is over. One of the best there has been in Premiership albeit for a short period of time.

I agree, along with John Aldridge,Fowler is one of my favorite players ever


Some of his goals from YOUTUBE inc his five against Fulham
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IM4LaXPYu3A&mode=related&search= (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IM4LaXPYu3A&mode=related&search=)
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: Tony Baloney on April 28, 2007, 12:03:30 AM
I think after Ian Rush and King Kenny, Peter Beardsley was one of my favourite players. He always gave 100% unlike a lot of the wasters playing Premiership soccer these days.
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: The Real Laoislad on April 28, 2007, 02:36:35 PM
Team v Portsmouth

Dudek
Arbeloa
Hyypia
Paletta
Insua ???
Sissoko
Alonso
Zenden
Gonzalez
Fowler
Bellamy
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: Syd The Sailor on April 28, 2007, 02:38:48 PM
Argentinian left back.
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: The Real Laoislad on April 28, 2007, 02:44:51 PM
It will be Crouch and Pennant playing tuesday night me thinks
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: Cloc Mor on April 28, 2007, 03:33:24 PM
One of the worst Liverpool teams I have ever seen.
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: Redgreenery on April 28, 2007, 03:37:01 PM
Ooh Portsmouth 2-0 Liverpool
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: The Real Laoislad on April 28, 2007, 03:37:18 PM
Pompy 1 - 0 Liverpool (Benjani 29)
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: The Real Laoislad on April 28, 2007, 03:37:51 PM
2-0 now :-[
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: Cloc Mor on April 28, 2007, 03:41:21 PM
I f**king knew it.  What is the sense of putting out this crap.  Doesn't make sense.
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: The Real Laoislad on April 28, 2007, 03:42:03 PM
At the most only 3 of that team might be considered for tuesday night Alonso,Sissoko and Bellamy
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: Cloc Mor on April 28, 2007, 03:48:34 PM
As long as he keeps that tube Zenden as far away as possible from the team - hell, I would even let him on the team bus.
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: The Real Laoislad on April 28, 2007, 03:51:35 PM
Zenden just smashed the cross bar with a brilliant volley from about 35 yards very unlucky
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: Syd The Sailor on April 28, 2007, 04:06:02 PM
I f**king knew it.  What is the sense of putting out this crap.  Doesn't make sense.

Would it make more sense if he put out all the regulars and got a few injuries ahead of Tuesday night ?
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: J70 on April 28, 2007, 04:27:17 PM
2-1

Free header from a corner for Hyypia
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: The Real Laoislad on April 28, 2007, 04:28:02 PM
2-1 Hyypia
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: Cloc Mor on April 28, 2007, 04:51:20 PM
Nabil El Zhar forward replaces Mohamed Sissoko.  ?????????
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: The Real Laoislad on April 28, 2007, 05:05:08 PM
All over lost 2-1 not that bothered with todays result too be honest and i have no doubt Rafa won't be either
Hopefully after Chelsea's tough game today they will have tired legs on tuesday night
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: The Real Laoislad on April 28, 2007, 05:16:38 PM
Todays result is irrelevant, Tuesday is what counts.
Utd won the league today  :(


Yeah well done Scunthorpe Utd Championship football for ye next year  ;)
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: Syd The Sailor on April 28, 2007, 05:52:16 PM
Any word on Carvalhos injury? He went off today against Bolton
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: Dubh driocht on April 28, 2007, 06:23:46 PM
He's out.Still plenty to do.However, they lost the league today so let's hope it's the start of a bad week for them.
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: The Real Laoislad on April 30, 2007, 10:35:01 AM
any views on a team for tomorrow night lads?

I'd go for
                                       Renia
                     Finnan    Carra     Agger   Riise
                 
                     Pennant   Gerrard  Alonso  Gonzalez

                                  Kuyt     Crouch


There might be a case for playing Riise on the left wing and bringing Aurelio in at left back too
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: Syd The Sailor on April 30, 2007, 10:49:18 AM
any views on a team for tomorrow night lads?

I'd go for
                                       Renia
                     Finnan    Carra     Agger   Riise
                 
                     Pennant   Gerrard  Alonso  Gonzalez

                                  Kuyt     Crouch


There might be a case for playing Riise on the left wing and bringing Aurelio in at left back too

Aurelio will find it difficult playing with a bust achilles !!  ::)  ::)
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: The Real Laoislad on April 30, 2007, 10:50:09 AM
My apoligies Syd i meant to say Arbeola
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: SuperSub on April 30, 2007, 11:49:28 AM
Is Finnan fit?
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: The Real Laoislad on April 30, 2007, 03:14:49 PM
Its reported on sky sports news today that he is fit
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: Ethan Edwards on April 30, 2007, 03:52:05 PM
My Team would be


                                       Renia
                     Finnan    Carra     Agger   Arbeloa
                 
                     Gerrad   Mascarano  Alonso  Riise

                                  Kuyt     Crouch
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: The Real Laoislad on April 30, 2007, 03:55:03 PM
I honestly think we need Gerrard in the middle with Pennant putting decent delivery on the wing
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: Goats Do Shave on April 30, 2007, 03:57:16 PM
Wouyld you not consider playing Hyypia?

He is the only defender at the club who could maybe deal with Drogba in the air!? - although he will get roasted on the ground!
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: The Real Laoislad on April 30, 2007, 03:59:49 PM
You make a fair point there Goats,and Hyypia can always come up with a goal himself
I think though Agger will be better able for Drogba this time

Anyone else think if Drogba gets booked he won't bother trying to much as he'll know he's gone from the final?
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: The Real Laoislad on April 30, 2007, 04:11:16 PM
Micheal Owen expected to start for Newcastle tonight im delighted to see him back hope he stays injury free now
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: Carmen Stateside on April 30, 2007, 04:11:46 PM


Anyone else think if Drogba gets booked he won't bother trying to much as he'll know he's gone from the final?
Would expect him to be substituted if this happens! I like your team we gotta get wide and get crosses in for Crouch !! Starting to  sweat thinking bout it nervous as f***! :)
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: The Real Laoislad on April 30, 2007, 04:13:35 PM
Well its shit or bust now isn't it we have to go for the jugalar from the off,Chelsea must be tiring now
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: Carmen Stateside on April 30, 2007, 04:18:43 PM
Well it shit or bust now isn't we have to go for the jugalar from the off,Chelsea must be tiring now

Any word on Carvalho? would give up my right testicle to be in the Kop for this one !!! they seemed tired near the end of the game last week and that bolton game was no walk in the park for them either!
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: The Real Laoislad on April 30, 2007, 04:21:03 PM
Carvalho out as per Sky Sports News with Boularouz taking his place and he hasn't played for 8 weeks!
Ballack also out

Would give both testicles to be there :D
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: Carmen Stateside on April 30, 2007, 04:24:41 PM
 :D :D :D
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: Stalin on April 30, 2007, 04:25:26 PM
carvalho definately out. against bolton lampard, joe cole, and drogba all started on the bench, so fatigue will be a factor for terry, cashley etc rather than those three.

in the news today-bellamy claims he no longer enjoys a professional relationship with rafa, and also that the deal for simao is more or less done and dusted.

my team v bolton:
pepe
finnan agger carra arbeloa
pennant gerrard alonso riise
crouch kuyt

....would give all three of my testicles to be there  :-\
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: The Real Laoislad on April 30, 2007, 04:29:53 PM
I see Scott Carson was named Charltons player of the season,He'll hardly be happy warming Liverpools bench next season so
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: uselessfootballer on April 30, 2007, 04:36:47 PM
Rafa to pull another tactical fast one on the "Special One" tomorrow and line out 3-5-2

Reina
Agger, Hypia, Carra
Finnan, Alonso, Gerrard, Mascarano, Riise
Kuyt, Crouch

Liverpool to run amock and win 2-0
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: Stalin on April 30, 2007, 05:59:04 PM
wouldnt be surprised to see the 3-5-2 either.

not feeling confident about tomorrow night. shame on me! hopefully rafa and stevie g can produce some magic and pull us through. someone from milan said recently about the necessity to have a few magic moments in order to win the Champions League, we havnt had too many of these this season, bar maybe the performance v Barca. In 2005 we had the 3-2 win over Olympiakos, Luis Garcia's goal v Juve, the Chelski affair, not to mention the final.

My dream/outlandish prediction for tomorrow night: Chelsea to score an early goal, and go in at half time leading the tie 2-0 with an away goal. Jose to give a cocky halftime interview, totally belittlling Rafa. The Reds to emerge in the 2nd half, (Hamann on for Finnan??), goals from Kuyt, Stevie and a last minute scrappy goalmouth effort from God see us through!! Fingers crossed!!
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: Stalin on April 30, 2007, 06:05:51 PM
RAFA: MOURINHO COST CHELSEA TITLE
 



Rafael Benitez has fuelled his feud with Jose Mourinho by claiming that tinkering with his Chelsea team at the weekend "cost him the league title".

Liverpool boss Benitez has had to listen to Mourinho's suggestion that the Anfield men have been playing "testimonials" for weeks because they have only one trophy to play for.

The Chelsea manager has also been critical of Benitez's decisions to rest players ahead of Liverpool's Champions League clashes.

But now Benitez, ahead of tomorrow's decisive semi-final second leg at Anfield, claims that by trying to do the same in the 2-2 draw against Bolton on Saturday, Mourinho lost Chelsea their Barclays Premiership crown.

"It has cost him the league title," Benitez said.

And that, believes Benitez, will make the pressure-cooker atmosphere at Stamford Bridge even more difficult for Mourinho to handle.

Benitez even took a sly dig at Mourinho's 'Special One' tag, saying: "We have our special ones here, they are our fans, who always play with their hearts."

He added of Chelsea: "They know the pressure they have, but everyone has their own problems. We want to win this game, we want to finish third and, as for them, I do not need to put them under more pressure because they know full well what pressure they are under to win things.

"They try to win everything - that is enough pressure without me saying anything.

"They know the pressures they are under, you only have to ask Mr Abramovich what he wants, the Champions League or the Premier League. They know.

"It is clear they will be under pressure because they were talking about trophies, trophies, trophies. Maybe they have one less to win now and that makes the Champions League their priority."

Mourinho has also been critical of Liverpool's fans over the past week, but Benitez hit back by saying that, unlike Chelsea, Liverpool do not need to hand out free flags to get their fans in the right mood.

He added: "At Stamford Bridge, we showed that our supporters won their battle, even though Chelsea had their fans all with flags to wave. But our supporters were there with their hearts.

"We do not need to give away flags for our fans to wave - our supporters are always there with their hearts and that is all we need.

"I aim to be concentrating on one competition after the semi-final, and I do not worry whether Chelsea have one or two to think about.

"They will know that Anfield is a difficult place for them. I know they can say it is not a problem and they have experienced it before, but we know it will be a problem for them.

"Our supporters, they are the special ones, that is clear. Chelsea know why."

Two years ago, the Anfield hordes roared their team into the Istanbul final on a memorable night against Chelsea, and Benitez believes they can do it again, with the Merseysiders 1-0 down from the first-leg.

He said: "We can use the memories of two years ago to our advantage because we know what the players and fans can do working together.

"I remember before the game in 2005, the Chelsea players spoke a lot about being ready for the Anfield atmosphere, but when the game was played they could not handle it. It's very difficult for any opposing team to prepare to play against 12 men.

"Our fans cannot give red cards or award penalties, but they can score goals. I like this about our supporters because we know they will show they are in the best in the world again tomorrow night.

"The players can also use these positive memories. We will go into the game with a lot of confidence, but we know Chelsea are a very good team and we cannot afford to make mistakes.

"They are a team which has been built with a lot of money to win major trophies. They spent a lot of money on [Andriy] Shevchenko and [Michael] Ballack last year because their priority is the Champions League. Now they have more difficulties in the Premiership, it's clear if they're going to win a major trophy, this is the one they want to win."

And Benitez reveals he has spent time working on the mistakes made in the first leg last week at Stamford Bridge.

He said: "We are trying to learn from our mistakes in the first leg, they are very good, but I have confidence because playing with 12 men is a great advantage for us.

"It is no secret we will try to play with a high tempo from the beginning, something we didn't do in the first-leg. If we can keep a high tempo going for 90 minutes, that will be perfect.

"We did not play to our best level in the first leg, that is the key for me.

"If we play to our best, we will win."
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: GalwayBayBoy on April 30, 2007, 07:04:40 PM
Shevcheko out of tomorrow's game as well.
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: SuperSub on April 30, 2007, 07:19:24 PM
Where you hear that Galway?
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: Gabriel_Hurl on April 30, 2007, 07:52:31 PM
It's on the BBC

Quote
Liverpool full-back Steve Finnan is set to return as the Reds look to overhaul a 1-0 first-leg deficit in their Champions League semi-final at Anfield.

Striker Peter Crouch could also be in line for a starting place.

Chelsea striker Andriy Shevchenko has joined Ricardo Carvalho and Michael Ballack on the injured list but fit-again Arjen Robben is in the squad.

Midfielder Michael Essien returns for the Blues, but he could be drafted into central defence in place of Carvalho.

Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: GalwayBayBoy on April 30, 2007, 08:37:08 PM
Where you hear that Galway?

Sports news on the radio.
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: The Real Laoislad on April 30, 2007, 09:02:46 PM
Getting nervous now I hope this time tomorrow night im in a good mood!
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: deiseach on April 30, 2007, 10:00:20 PM
On a vaguely Liverpool related matter, I was waiting all evening for Michael Owen to conjure up a goal. Alas, he failed. Never mind Michael, I'm sure you'll have plenty of chances in the Zenith Data Systems Cup, or whatever Newcastle are going to aim for next season.
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: Ethan Edwards on May 01, 2007, 09:27:07 AM
Did anyone see ESPN last nite , they did a story on Dalglish, christ he was quality, we could be doing with him tonight

Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: magpie seanie on May 01, 2007, 09:47:49 AM
Saw a bit of Owen last night. He's got strong (put on a stone and its all muscle according to himself) and if he hasn't lost the pace (looked fine last night) he could be a better player than he was before. Will score a good few goals for the barcodes next year alongside Martins.
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: Syd The Sailor on May 01, 2007, 11:14:24 AM
Hopefully Owen enjoys playing the remainder of his playing days between mid table & relegation zone. He was a greedy wee f*cker and tried to hold Liverpool to ransom before he left for Madrid.
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: charlie stubbs on May 01, 2007, 01:57:45 PM
here here syd,reminds of that c**k lucas neill
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: Gabriel_Hurl on May 01, 2007, 03:34:13 PM
2-0 I hope  :-[ :-[
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: Carmen Stateside on May 01, 2007, 04:45:31 PM
Not long now folks!! whats the thoughts?? think we are in for a good one, Liverpool to win it on penaltys ;D
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: Wee Roddy on May 01, 2007, 04:50:06 PM
Hi Stateside. Cant make out who that is on your photo .Is it you?
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: winghalfun on May 01, 2007, 04:54:17 PM
Liverpool 3-0.
I can but dream.
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: bingobus on May 01, 2007, 05:04:33 PM
Very very tight tonight. I'm looking forward to it and not looking forward to it (negative side).

Reckon we need to score in opeing 20 minutes or it could turn into another Barcelona match this season or Benifca game from last.

Have a very negative vibe though and can see Chelsea score. Hope I'm miles off. Glad that Sheva is out (Think he owes us a boot in the balls big time) and hope Essien is at CB with Terry rather than in Midfield.

Finally,........COME ON YOU REDMEN!!!!
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: Carmen Stateside on May 01, 2007, 05:05:33 PM
Hi Stateside. Cant make out who that is on your photo .Is it you?
Na its Wee Dan!
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: Square Ball on May 01, 2007, 06:34:46 PM
Right, close to kick off, predictions?

2-1
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: stew on May 01, 2007, 06:39:15 PM
2-0 Chelsea.
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: GalwayBayBoy on May 01, 2007, 06:40:07 PM
Reina
Finnan
Carragher
Agger
Riise
Pennant
Gerrard
Mascherano
Zenden
Crouch
Kuyt

Cech
Ferreira
Terry
Essien
Cole
Makalele
Mikel
Lampard
J Cole
Drogba
Kalou

Feckin Zenden plays again. >:(

Alonso dropped.
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: The Real Laoislad on May 01, 2007, 06:41:57 PM
FFS whats Zenden playing for :o At least Gerrard is in the middle i suppose :-\

Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: The Real Laoislad on May 01, 2007, 06:43:00 PM
3-1 Liverpool and we'll play Milan in Final again
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: Gabriel_Hurl on May 01, 2007, 06:59:50 PM
2-nil again

I like to look of this team - I'm not fussed on Zenden play - who else can we stick out there?
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: Redgreenery on May 01, 2007, 07:06:29 PM
A score draw or liverpool win.
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: The Real Laoislad on May 01, 2007, 07:10:16 PM
2-nil again

I like to look of this team - I'm not fussed on Zenden play - who else can we stick out there?

Gonzalez or Riise?
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: overdabar on May 01, 2007, 07:13:57 PM
liverpool 1 (1) chelsea0 (1) aet. reina to put pool into final with save on shevchenkos penalty ;D
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: The Real Laoislad on May 01, 2007, 07:16:55 PM
liverpool 1 (1) chelsea0 (1) aet. reina to put pool into final with save on shevchenkos penalty ;D


He ain't playing
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: Gabriel_Hurl on May 01, 2007, 07:21:46 PM
Riise is already left back

and Gonzalez is rubbish
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: Carmen Stateside on May 01, 2007, 07:24:57 PM
It is what it is lads strange or not, 2 0 Zenden with both ;D
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: The Real Laoislad on May 01, 2007, 07:26:19 PM
Riise is already left back

and Gonzalez is rubbish


I know Riise is left back but he could have put Arebola there and Riise on the wing
Also Gonzalez isn't that bad and he is much quicker than Zenden and can deliver decent crosses wheras as Zenden didn't give one good cross against Chelsea
Anyway what do i know i hope Zenden scores a hat trick 8)
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: Carmen Stateside on May 01, 2007, 07:29:04 PM
ESPN gives best champions leauge goal to Peter crouch for his bicycle kick against Galatasaray ;D Take another one!
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: Redgreenery on May 01, 2007, 08:07:49 PM
Goal Liverpool! All square
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: heganboy on May 01, 2007, 08:08:46 PM
game on...
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: Carmen Stateside on May 01, 2007, 08:11:18 PM
go oooooooonnnnnnn ;D :D cole should have been booked too!
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: ExiledGael on May 01, 2007, 08:27:41 PM
Liverpool are missing the boat here, they stepped up the gas played well and got the goal they deserved from the opening half hour. The need to keep playing at that tempo. Retire back the pitch and Chelski will sneak one and kill the tie
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: Redgreenery on May 01, 2007, 08:32:37 PM
Half Time, same score, this is a bloody brilliant game!
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: deiseach on May 01, 2007, 08:44:50 PM
I'm dying here
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: Redgreenery on May 01, 2007, 09:10:15 PM
This is some game, you'd expect Chelsea 2 be a bit better, pool should be leading, could go either way!
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: Redgreenery on May 01, 2007, 09:17:54 PM
Carragher is doinng so good in defence.
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: Carmen Stateside on May 01, 2007, 09:26:31 PM
This is unreal!! Hearts bout to go! :-[
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: Orior on May 01, 2007, 09:31:26 PM
What the hell is that guy from "Bottom" doing playing for Liverpool?




No, wait hang on, its Zendon.
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: Redgreenery on May 01, 2007, 09:34:39 PM
Full Time, heading to extra time!!!! Great Game!
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: Redgreenery on May 01, 2007, 09:49:23 PM
KYUT NET NETS IT!!!!!!!!!!!!!! OFFSIDE WOW!!!
Still level
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: heganboy on May 01, 2007, 09:56:40 PM
bellamy coming on for the last 15

Still time for God
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: Silky on May 01, 2007, 09:59:34 PM
Reds look stronger. We can win it now if they go for it!!
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: Carmen Stateside on May 01, 2007, 10:08:44 PM
i will never stick penelties feel sick :'(
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: Carmen Stateside on May 01, 2007, 10:10:34 PM
lets go GOD
 ;D
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: Redgreenery on May 01, 2007, 10:13:56 PM
Game going to PENALTIES!!!!
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: heganboy on May 01, 2007, 10:18:54 PM
here we go:
2 great keepers...

liverpool first into anfield rd end
zenden first
 1-0
robben next
miss 1-0
alonso up
2-0 (just)
lampard
2-1
gerrard
3-1
geremi
miss 3-1
kuyt
4-1 liverpool through
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: Carmen Stateside on May 01, 2007, 10:20:11 PM
yessssssssss
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: Carmen Stateside on May 01, 2007, 10:23:35 PM
yesssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssss
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: Redgreenery on May 01, 2007, 10:24:03 PM
Congrats Liverpool
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: dec on May 01, 2007, 10:26:41 PM
Form is temporary, Class is permanent.
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: J70 on May 01, 2007, 10:26:57 PM
GO ONNNNNNNNNNN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: Niall Quinn on May 01, 2007, 10:28:36 PM
Go on the mighty Reds!!!
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: Gabriel_Hurl on May 01, 2007, 10:29:34 PM
Get the fcuk in
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: deiseach on May 01, 2007, 10:30:37 PM
Ah, penalties. Even won the Youth Cup on penalties!
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: blast05 on May 01, 2007, 10:31:08 PM
I watched it as a neutral - not really being too bothered about soccer.
One thing that struck me is the complete bias of the RTE commentary team and the analysts in the studio apart from Dunphy towards Liverpool.
I would expect more from RTE.

And also, for what its worth, IMHO Liverpool getting to the champions league final (and winning it 2 years ago) devalues the title of "best team in Europe". There is no possible way they can be considered as such regardless of their results in the champions league
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: Carmen Stateside on May 01, 2007, 10:31:46 PM
Please be United ;D ;D
Oh please!!!!
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: AZOffaly on May 01, 2007, 10:33:21 PM
Lads, has anyone the number of a good cardiologist? I'm shaking like a leaf.....

On the night, I think Liverpool deserved it, they had a few chances and played whatever football was there, especially in the first half. In fairness to Chelsea, they showed savage character again, Terry and Essien and Makelele were superb. Their season just caught up on them I think.

IF it's United in the final, I may well die.

Walk on, Walk on....
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: GalwayBayBoy on May 01, 2007, 10:33:45 PM
YESSSSSSS!!!!

I nearly had a heart attack twice during the game. God knows what the final is going to be like.

Pepe Reina is a legend!
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: Gabriel_Hurl on May 01, 2007, 10:39:12 PM
I'd rather have Milan for health reasons

 but a Pool - ManUre final

 :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: Silky on May 01, 2007, 10:39:57 PM
I could hardly watch. Great stuff. Roll on Ac Milan!
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: GalwayBayBoy on May 01, 2007, 10:41:08 PM
I watched it as a neutral - not really being too bothered about soccer.
One thing that struck me is the complete bias of the RTE commentary team and the analysts in the studio apart from Dunphy towards Liverpool.
I would expect more from RTE.

And also, for what its worth, IMHO Liverpool getting to the champions league final (and winning it 2 years ago) devalues the title of "best team in Europe". There is no possible way they can be considered as such regardless of their results in the champions league

I don't think anyone with half a brain in their head would consider the RTE panel biased towards Liverpool. They get stuck into us regularly. They just wanted us to win tonight as we were the better team in general play so in their minds "deserved" to go through.

As for Liverpool "devaluing" the Champions League well that's utter tripe. The European Cup and CL is a knockout cup competition. Not a league. The best team in Europe doesn't always win it. In fact more often than not they don't.
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: bingobus on May 01, 2007, 10:41:54 PM
GO ON YOU ******* BEAUTY!!!!!!!!!

THAT WAS STIRRING STUFF. COULD BARELY WATCH IT.

Need a drink of something very strong....

BLAST05...Blow it out your arse!
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: The Real Laoislad on May 01, 2007, 10:45:18 PM
 :) ;) :D ;D >:( :( :o 8) ??? ::) :P :-[ :-X :-\ :-* :'(


I went through every single emotion tonight

YYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: Dinny Breen on May 01, 2007, 10:46:13 PM
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I don't think anyone with half a brain in their head would consider the RTE panel biased towards Liverpool. They get stuck into us regularly. They just wanted us to win tonight as we were the better team in general play.

As another neutral would agree with most of that except Ray Houghton is very pro-Liverpool but understandable as an ex-player, the other 3 are far from pro-Liverpool if fact they're probably anti-everything. I see Dunphy offered odds on Chelsea of 2/1 just before the penalties..

Congrats by the way lads, better team on the night won it, Chelsea should have put the game away in the first leg but they didn't...
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: The Real Laoislad on May 01, 2007, 10:47:35 PM
I watched it as a neutral - not really being too bothered about soccer.
One thing that struck me is the complete bias of the RTE commentary team and the analysts in the studio apart from Dunphy towards Liverpool.
I would expect more from RTE.

And also, for what its worth, IMHO Liverpool getting to the champions league final (and winning it 2 years ago) devalues the title of "best team in Europe". There is no possible way they can be considered as such regardless of their results in the champions league

If your not really bothered about soccer why post such shite  why do you care ::) f**k OFF YOU TOSSER



COME ON THE POOL
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: Gabriel_Hurl on May 01, 2007, 10:49:07 PM
Reina saved 2 from 3 tonight
3 from 4 in the FA Cup Final last night
and in his last season with Villareal - he saved 7 out of 9 in the league
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: blast05 on May 01, 2007, 10:51:05 PM
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I don't think anyone with half a brain in their head would consider the RTE panel biased towards Liverpool. They get stuck into us regularly. They just wanted us to win tonight as we were the better team in general play.

Maybe so, i don't watch the Premiership often enough but there is no question that Darragh Maloney and Ray Houghton are Liverpool supporters


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As for Liverpool "devaluing" the Champions League well that's utter tripe. The European Cup and CL is a knockout cup competition. Not a league. The best team in Europe doesn't always win it. In fact more often than not they don't.

I didn't say that - i said "devalues the title of best team in Europe".  The 2nd part of your line above agrees with this comment.


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Terry and Essien and Makelele were superb.

I thought Makelele was shite


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Blast05, we can only beat what is put in front of us.

I'll never understand the use of the word "we" from people who weren't born into it (my loss i guess). Apologies if you were born into it


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If your not really bothered about soccer why post such shite f**k OFF YOU TOSSER

True to form insightful analysis and commentary


Good luck to yee all anyway. I'm sure  it would never compare with your county winning the All-Ireland
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: The Real Laoislad on May 01, 2007, 10:51:54 PM
Im havin a few Milllers 5ive times it's working for me to slow down my heart rate
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: The Real Laoislad on May 01, 2007, 10:52:23 PM
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Ray Houghton are Liverpool supporters

Ray Houghton a Liverpool fan no never ::) who would have thought a former Liverpool Legend would be a Liverpool fan ???
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: Orior on May 01, 2007, 10:52:50 PM
If its United in the final then to be honest I dont know who to support. Either way, a scouser will get his paws on the trophy.
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: magpie seanie on May 01, 2007, 10:54:39 PM
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there is no question that Darragh Maloney and Ray Houghton are Liverpool supporters

Defo. They were cheerleaders not commentators.

Liverpool deserved it on the night. Chelsea are a brave team but didn't have enough in the tank for this hurlde and must really regret no having a bigger lead from the first leg.
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: bingobus on May 01, 2007, 10:55:22 PM
I was at the 2005 final in Istanbul, that game tonight was much harder to watch, especially the penalties. I couldnt sit down, I was out taking the washing in off the line for the last 5 minutes. Its gonna take me a couple of hours to calm down and get to sleep, but it was worth every single minute of it.

I feel like I had a dozen red bulls, poor fratic at moment, phone flat out as well!!

Jaysus, you go through the ringer with this club.....but you couldn't beat it with a big stick!!!
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: magpie seanie on May 01, 2007, 10:55:38 PM
BTW the 9/4 that I took on Liverpool going through was sweet. Thanks PP.
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: Stalin on May 01, 2007, 10:56:06 PM
anyone thinking of going? lookng at flights here, unless im missing somethng ryanair or easyjet dont do athens? any tips?
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: The Real Laoislad on May 01, 2007, 10:57:07 PM
BTW the 9/4 that I took on Liverpool going through was sweet. Thanks PP.

The 12/1 that i got on a AC Milan/Liverpool  final is looking good too
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: Gabriel_Hurl on May 01, 2007, 10:57:43 PM
Liverpool FC website - been down nearly an hour now
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: The Real Laoislad on May 01, 2007, 10:58:16 PM
yeah been trying it to Gab Hurl
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: The Real Laoislad on May 01, 2007, 11:01:03 PM






Agger you legend
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: magickingdom on May 01, 2007, 11:01:59 PM
unbelievable result... pure balls in the end. chelski have fallen down the slope...
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: The Real Laoislad on May 01, 2007, 11:03:42 PM
AWESOME REDS ARE GOING TO ATHENS  

Liverpool are through to the Champions League Final in Athens after they produced an awesome performance to overturn Chelsea's first leg lead and win the Tuesday's Semi Final on penalties on a glorious night at Anfield.

The Reds sealed their place in the final against either Manchester United or AC Milan after Daniel Agger's first half leveller had taken them into extra time and then penalties. And they beat Chelsea 4-1 on penalties with Pepe Reina the hero saving three of Chelsea's spot kicks.
 
It was a cruel way to go for Chelsea, but on the balance of chances Liverpool deserved their win because they were the ones who had come closest and controlled most of an epic 115 minutes.
 
It wasn't just on the pitch that this battle was won. The Anfield atmosphere was simply breathtaking. You could search far and wide and still not find a support to match it. No one does scarves and flags like Liverpool and, combined with the noise; it presented a wall of power that drove the players on to a fantastic prize.
 
And it will be Liverpool's second European Cup Final in just three years, a throw back to the late 70s and early 80s, when the Reds dominated Europe just as they are doing now.
 
With what was at stake it was no surprise to see this game start slowly. Jose Mourinho had said his side would come here to attack, but they dropped inside their own half every time Liverpool had the ball and the Reds were finding space hard to find.
 
Rafa had stated his intention by starting with Steven Gerrard at the centre of the midfield and with two strikers in Dirk Kuyt and Peter Crouch. And it was Liverpool who did all of the early pressing, without really threatening to test Petr Cech in the Chelsea goal.
 
That was until the 22nd minute, when Daniel Agger scored and sent an already noisy Anfield into an absolute frenzy. It came from a free kick on the left of the Chelsea penalty area. Steven Gerrard fooled everyone when he rolled the ball back to Agger 12 yards from goal and he finished superbly side footed.
 
We needed a great save by Reina from danger man Drogba just minutes later and Chelsea got on the front foot for the first time as half time approached, but Agger's goal had levelled the tie and it was game on when the sides went in for the break.
 
The game was on a knife edge. A goal for Liverpool would put them in pole position, but a goal for Chelsea would leave the Reds needing two. Steven Gerrard though wasn't about to stick, he wanted to force the issue and only the timely intervention of Ashley Cole deprived him of a run on goal with the second half just minutes old.
 
Chelsea responded with a shot wide from Cole, but Liverpool were soon back on the attack and it took a brilliant save from Cech to stop Crouch's far post header after Pennant's cross had picked him out.
 
Liverpool were looking the more likely and they came desperately close again in the 59th minute when this time Riise's cross found the head of Kuyt; and he rattled the Chelsea crossbar with Cech beaten.
 
The chances kept coming for Liverpool. Next it was a last ditch deflection that sent Pennant's fierce shot over the crossbar and into the Kop. The Reds were on top, but the question on everyone's lips was would the goal come; and would Chelsea come again.
 
Liverpool escaped when Carragher deflected the ball just inches over his own crossbar with Drogba closing in, but as the clock ticked towards 90 minutes it became obvious that we would have extra time.
 
It was again Liverpool who had the better chances in extra time. It took a great block to stop Riise's goalbound effort and all of Anfield thought they'd scored the winner when Kuyt slammed the ball home after Cech could only parry Alonso's shot, but they were cruelly denied by what looked a wrong offside decision. And in the dieing minutes, it took another fine Cech save to deny Kuyt a certain winner.
 
So it was penalties and it was just like Istanbul with Liverpool's goalkeeper and penalty takers again proving they had the greater strength of mind. Zenden scored, Reina saved from Robben , Alonso scored, Lampard scored, Gerrard scored, Reina saved from Geremi and then Kuyt scored. What a night!
 


Teams
Liverpool: Reina, Riise, Agger (captain), Carragher, Finnan, Zenden, Gerrard MBE, Mascherano, Pennant, Crouch, Kuyt. Subs - Hyypia, Fowler, Padelli, Gonzalez, Arbeloa, Bellamy, Alonso
 
Chelsea: Cech, Cole, Terry (captain), Essien, Ferreira, Cole, Lampard, Makelele, Obi Mikel, Drogba, Kalou. Subs - Cudicini, Bridge, Wright-Phillips, Diarra, Boulahrouz, Robben,
 
Referee: Mejuto Gonzalez
 
Conditions: Dry
 
Attendance: 42554
 
Liverpoolfc.tv Man-of-the-Match: Jamie Carragher


Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: brokencrossbar1 on May 01, 2007, 11:05:23 PM
Unbelieveable, I was in hospital with Mrs BC and had no TV access.  My old buddy AZ kept me informed of the whole thing as the new Maternity in Cork has no TVs yet.  I got home with 5 minutes of extra time to go.  Bloody hell but Pepe is one hell of a keeper for penos.

I knew as soon as Robben placed the ball that he was missing.  I turned to BC junior and told him he would miss.  His whole body language said it.

Please AC win as I could not get through a final against Manure :-[
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: Gabriel_Hurl on May 01, 2007, 11:06:56 PM
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Liverpoolfc.tv Man-of-the-Match: Jamie Carragher

Without a shadow of a doubt






















Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: GalwayBayBoy on May 01, 2007, 11:07:47 PM
We've won 10 out of 11 penalty shoot-outs in Europe now.
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: bingobus on May 01, 2007, 11:08:06 PM
Starting to calm down a bit, think I told wife that if the baby is a boy its been called Rafa, end of. Just been reminded of it and told it was silly...I agreed, if its a girl its been called Rafa as well !!!

How Javier Mascherano couldn't get into that West Ham team is unbelieveable.

I'm convinced that Dirk Kuyt has an identical twin and the play alternative halves, how he kept going!! Unreal.

Credit to Riise, Agger and Sir Jamie of Liverpool, had Drogba sorted all night.

Reina is a banker at these peno's...he must have the fear or god in the peno takers before they even hit one.
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: deiseach on May 01, 2007, 11:11:50 PM
Kilkenny took a wee bit of the fun (only a wee bit, mind) out of last Sunday by being uniformly magnanimous in defeat. Happily we've no such problems with Mourinho. So long Jose, don't let the door hit you on the arse on the way out.
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: deiseach on May 01, 2007, 11:14:20 PM
We've won 10 out of 11 penalty shoot-outs in Europe now.

The only one Liverpool have lost was against Wimbledon in the League Cup. Two European Cup finals and one semi-final, FA Cup final, League Cup final, FA Cup semi-final, Youth Cup final . . . all won.

We're going to lose in Athens on penalties now
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: Carmen Stateside on May 01, 2007, 11:16:22 PM
What did dunphy the mouth say about it?
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: The Real Laoislad on May 01, 2007, 11:19:00 PM
He was hoping Chelsea would win shoot out,probably because he could berate Benitez's tactics
Once again he's left with egg on his face,What did he say after Barcelona? Benitez was found out tonight or something to that effect ::)
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: deiseach on May 01, 2007, 11:20:24 PM
He was hoping Chelsea would win shoot out,probably because he could berate Benitez's tactics
Once again he's left with egg on his face,What did he say after Barcelona? Benitez was found out tonight or something to that effect ::)

Eh? He said Liverpool were "certain" to win. His only reason for hoping Chelsea would win was to keep The Special One in English football.
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: The Real Laoislad on May 01, 2007, 11:21:17 PM
He said he "hoped" Chelsea won
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: deiseach on May 01, 2007, 11:22:24 PM
He said he "hoped" Chelsea won

Because he wanted to Mourinho to survive. Sympathy for a fellow anti-Christ, I guess
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: The Real Laoislad on May 01, 2007, 11:25:08 PM
I don't believe that were his reasons i reckon he wanted to be proved right about Liverpool

Anyways what odds does it make he's a w**ker and a bitter bitter man
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: stephenite on May 01, 2007, 11:25:33 PM
I knew as soon as Robben placed the ball that he was missing.  I turned to BC junior and told him he would miss.  His whole body language said it.


Was just up out of bed in Sydney and flicked on SBS to see if I could get the result, saw there was 10 minutes left in Extra time, as soon as the final whistle went the first shot I saw was of Mourinho going over to Robben and he was shaking his head saying no, when I saw him step up for the peno I turned to herself and said he's going to miss, you're right BC1 , he choked big time, reminded me of your old managers saying, "I don't want the guy who'll turn up to a Saturday night challenge in his disco pants and score 2-6, give me the man who'll burst his gut in the last five minutes of a championship match when the fat is in the fire"

Well done to Liverpool, don't care who wins really but would like to see a UnitedvPool fina
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: The Real Laoislad on May 01, 2007, 11:27:04 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mlcAL2OUXwE

http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x1v9vj_liverpool-1-0-chelsea-agger

http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x1v9kd_youll-never-walk-alone-anfield
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: bingobus on May 01, 2007, 11:35:08 PM



 ;D

Internet Message board premature ejaculation   ;D  ;D
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: blast05 on May 01, 2007, 11:35:39 PM
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He was hoping Chelsea would win shoot out,probably because he could berate Benitez's tactics
Once again he's left with egg on his face

I fairness to Dunphy he called the penalty shootout to a tee and he specifically said that the reason he hoped Chelsea would win was that Mourinho did not deserve to end on such a note and as one with only a passive interest in soccer, i would have to agree on this latter point
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: GalwayBayBoy on May 01, 2007, 11:37:32 PM



 ;D

Internet Message board premature ejaculation   ;D  ;D

I did warn Norf Tyrone but would he listen to me?

Nooooo. ;D
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: 02 on May 01, 2007, 11:45:06 PM
What a douche  ;D
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: GalwayBayBoy on May 01, 2007, 11:45:20 PM
Jose being a gracious loser as usual. ;D

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PO8FxTmAqjk (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PO8FxTmAqjk)
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: The Real Laoislad on May 01, 2007, 11:47:00 PM
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He was hoping Chelsea would win shoot out,probably because he could berate Benitez's tactics
Once again he's left with egg on his face

I fairness to Dunphy he called the penalty shootout to a tee and he specifically said that the reason he hoped Chelsea would win was that Mourinho did not deserve to end on such a note and as one with only a passive interest in soccer, i would have to agree on this latter point


Well anyone who has"more than a passive interest in soccer" will know what w w**ker Dunphy is and i don't believe those were his reasons i think he had other motives why,Mainly so he could give us his most laughable quote to date "Gerrard is a nothing player" Or "Benitez was found out tonight" He was just waiting to tell every one how right he was

ps  Blast for some one who only has a passive interest your very opinionated about soccer
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: The Real Laoislad on May 01, 2007, 11:48:33 PM
Jose being a gracious loser as usual. ;D

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PO8FxTmAqjk (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PO8FxTmAqjk)

How can he say with out laughing that Chelsea were the better team tonight?
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: J70 on May 01, 2007, 11:50:38 PM

And also, for what its worth, IMHO Liverpool getting to the champions league final (and winning it 2 years ago) devalues the title of "best team in Europe". There is no possible way they can be considered as such regardless of their results in the champions league

How many times does "the best" team win any competition, especially one played in a knock-out format?

Are Italy the best international side in the world? Were Greece the best in Europe three years ago? Would Arsenal have been the best had they held on last year?

Liverpool have knocked out Chelsea and Barcelona. Had one of those gone on to win it, you probably wouldn't be making this complaint.

And let's say the competition returned to league champions-only entry. If United pip Chelsea for the league title by a point, suggesting two very closely matched teams, would it not be devaluing the competition to lose a team of the quality of Chelsea (or vice versa), thus giving a team from a weaker league an increased chance of winning it?

To use an example closer to home, Dublin had a relatively handy passage to the All Ireland semi-final last year. Say they had beaten Mayo (a mere two point swing) in the semi, and caught Kerry on the hop in the final. Would the All Ireland championship thus be deemed a devalued competition?
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: The Real Laoislad on May 01, 2007, 11:55:19 PM
No sign of Syd tonight lads he must be on the porter :)
My heart is still racing i'll never get to sleep tonight
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: deiseach on May 01, 2007, 11:57:15 PM
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Add that to your history Liverfool

Don't mind if we do, thanks.
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: deiseach on May 02, 2007, 12:09:45 AM
Watching Mourinho made me feel a little sorry for journalists. He can say talk utter nonsense, safe in the knowledge that anyone who pulls him up on it will be blackballed by the very people he / she depends on for their livelihood.
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: The Real Laoislad on May 02, 2007, 12:11:52 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=esbmiuQgZNE


No Prawn Sandwich men here lads what a atmosphere what a club 8)
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: deiseach on May 02, 2007, 12:20:54 AM
Huh. No shots of Mrs deiseach yet. Shame.
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: blast05 on May 02, 2007, 12:31:30 AM
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How many times does "the best" team win any competition, especially one played in a knock-out format?

Are Italy the best international side in the world? Were Greece the best in Europe three years ago? Would Arsenal have been the best had they held on last year?

Liverpool have knocked out Chelsea and Barcelona. Had one of those gone on to win it, you probably wouldn't be making this complaint.

And let's say the competition returned to league champions-only entry. If United pip Chelsea for the league title by a point, suggesting two very closely matched teams, would it not be devaluing the competition to lose a team of the quality of Chelsea (or vice versa), thus giving a team from a weaker league an increased chance of winning it?

To use an example closer to home, Dublin had a relatively handy passage to the All Ireland semi-final last year. Say they had beaten Mayo (a mere two point swing) in the semi, and caught Kerry on the hop in the final. Would the All Ireland championship thus be deemed a devalued competition?


Fair enough, i just think that if you had the top 20 clubs in Europe competing in a 38 games season, that the title "champions of Europe" as a title could be much more justified and from what little i know, i doubt Liverpool would be contenders for such a title.
In most other sports, the cream tends to rise more in the premier competition be it due to the structure of the competition or the nature of the sport.
Pardon my ignorance, but would Premier League clubs prefer to win the champions league or the Premier League. .... innocent question for fear that the answer is obviously the latter
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: armaghniac on May 02, 2007, 12:33:46 AM
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To use an example closer to home, Dublin had a relatively handy passage to the All Ireland semi-final last year. Say they had beaten Mayo (a mere two point swing) in the semi, and caught Kerry on the hop in the final. Would the All Ireland championship thus be deemed a devalued competition?

Yes. In the 21st century you have to knock out Armagh to win a real all-Ireland.

However Liverpool have as much right to be in the final and win the competition as anyone else.
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: GalwayBayBoy on May 02, 2007, 12:34:13 AM



Rafa gets some Yoga practice in during the penalties.
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: highking on May 02, 2007, 12:52:56 AM
I was wondering why there was such a low turnout at training this evening - until I came home and saw the penalties. Why do they have to put on the Champions League mid-week when club training is on. The young lads will make any excuse not to go training.
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: J70 on May 02, 2007, 01:05:16 AM
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How many times does "the best" team win any competition, especially one played in a knock-out format?

Are Italy the best international side in the world? Were Greece the best in Europe three years ago? Would Arsenal have been the best had they held on last year?

Liverpool have knocked out Chelsea and Barcelona. Had one of those gone on to win it, you probably wouldn't be making this complaint.

And let's say the competition returned to league champions-only entry. If United pip Chelsea for the league title by a point, suggesting two very closely matched teams, would it not be devaluing the competition to lose a team of the quality of Chelsea (or vice versa), thus giving a team from a weaker league an increased chance of winning it?

To use an example closer to home, Dublin had a relatively handy passage to the All Ireland semi-final last year. Say they had beaten Mayo (a mere two point swing) in the semi, and caught Kerry on the hop in the final. Would the All Ireland championship thus be deemed a devalued competition?


Fair enough, i just think that if you had the top 20 clubs in Europe competing in a 38 games season, that the title "champions of Europe" as a title could be much more justified and from what little i know, i doubt Liverpool would be contenders for such a title.
In most other sports, the cream tends to rise more in the premier competition be it due to the structure of the competition or the nature of the sport.
Pardon my ignorance, but would Premier League clubs prefer to win the champions league or the Premier League. .... innocent question for fear that the answer is obviously the latter

The superleague thing will never happen. The Champions League evolved from the old Champions Cup to fill that gap and allow the top European clubs to play each other with more regularity.

Not sure I agree entirely about the other sports either. The big Americans sports have a post-season knock-out competition to find a champion. The so-called best team may not always win that. In golf, the majors are the biggest prizes, but you often get a relative unknown or a journeyman who hits form winning them. But it probably varies from sport to sport.

As to the question of whether clubs would prefer to win the premier league or the champions league, I think the two competitions are seen as the two major prizes that must both be won. Neither Alex Ferguson, Arsene Wenger or Jose Mourinho were/are satisfied with winning just the premier league. Ferguson has often spoken of his wish to win the champions league for a second time before he retires. Rafa may well add a second champions league this season, but if he doesn't build a team to challenge and win the premier league over the next few seasons, his will not be seen as a completely successful spell in charge. If he does win it in Athens, the longing for a premier league on the part of the fans and the club will probably just increase, as he will have proven to be a master of one competition, but not yet the other.
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: J70 on May 02, 2007, 01:46:01 AM



 ;D

Internet Message board premature ejaculation   ;D  ;D

I did warn Norf Tyrone but would he listen to me?

Nooooo. ;D

That has to be up there with some of Fearon's best Spurs threads.
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: Syd The Sailor on May 02, 2007, 08:24:17 AM
No sign of Syd tonight lads he must be on the porter :)
My heart is still racing i'll never get to sleep tonight

There wasnt a drop passed my lips, was training last night so missed the 1st half. I had a mate of mine who is a United fan on the phone while the penalty shootout was taking place, made it even more enjoyable. Dont know if the nerves will stick a final against that other shower. Hopefully Milan do the business tonight......
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: el_cuervo_fc on May 02, 2007, 08:46:39 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BLTB-detLOs
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: Declan on May 02, 2007, 09:06:50 AM
Liverpool deserved to win last night but wasn't a great game for the nuetral to watch. Very disappointed in Chelsea's attempts at getting back in the game. Route One stuff the whole time. Agree re the penos and Dunphy called them perfectly.

It would be a great finale to the season if Utd get through tonight to face Liverpool and I'd have thought that all Liverpool anfd Utd fans would want it to happen. The only possible bigger final would be Real v Barca   
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: An Lark on May 02, 2007, 10:15:53 AM
One thing that struck me last night watching - how can Liverpool leave Anfield?

History, tradition, atmosphere. What a place.
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: full back on May 02, 2007, 10:24:59 AM
Congratulations last night lads, a deserved victory.
How Mourinho can say that Chelsea were the best team with a straight face is beyond me especially as Kuyt hit the bar & had a goal ruled out.
Thought Chelsea were incredibly disappointing. Even after spending millions & millions they still launch the ball upfield at every opportunity-route one stuff a la Wimbledon or more recently Bolton, although Fat Sam did this at a fraction of the cost.
Mind you how is Zenden staying on that team? Granted he scored the penalty, but f**king hell he has no pace and his crossing is terrible. Although to be fair in 2005 when the Scousers won there was a few passengers (Djimi Djimi).
Roll on tonight and hopefully the dream final ;)
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: Tony Baloney on May 02, 2007, 10:34:55 AM
I'm with Syd - I really don't know if I'll be able watch a final against Man Yoo without being sick with nerves!
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: Uladh on May 02, 2007, 10:36:03 AM
A terrible game of football which both teams were determined not to lose after the tie went to one each.

If 0-0 was worth three points, liverpool could win the league, but there is no other possible way for that to happen.

It must be difficult to have been a liverpool fan throught eighties and to now have to watch this current shite.
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: full back on May 02, 2007, 11:01:39 AM
2 Jose is on his way out of English football
Catch happen soon enough IMO
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: bingobus on May 02, 2007, 11:03:46 AM
One thing that struck me last night watching - how can Liverpool leave Anfield?

History, tradition, atmosphere. What a place.

It will be very hard to leave Anfield behind and take nights like that to the new stadium but to be competitive in the future it has to be done.

The plus side is that the new stadium is literally a stones throw from Anfield, people will know the area, still go to the same pubs etc.
The club have been active in getting supporters views on the stadium and have stated that it will retain a single tier at one end i.e The Kop end. They have been in discussion with supporters groups to retain the atmosphere but in fairness Anfield can be like a lot of EPL grounds for league games, where the atmosphere is poor at a lot of games.

The Yanks are big into stadiums and rumour is that they are planning to scrap the current stadium design to make it bigger 70k plus. This will delay move for at least a year, as a whole new Transport plan would have to be put in place.

Also Gillet said that he wanted to watch the game from the Kop last night but wasn't allowed by security. It may have been big talk but he was known for it in the states apparently and instead he went to Derby Square in Liverpool yesterday when he heard that alot of supporters where meeting there. He happily chated to all who approached him and posed for pictures. An impressive talker by all accounts.

Couldn't imagine the Glazers been able to do this.
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: The Real Laoislad on May 02, 2007, 11:06:43 AM
A terrible game of football which both teams were determined not to lose after the tie went to one each.

If 0-0 was worth three points, liverpool could win the league, but there is no other possible way for that to happen.

It must be difficult to have been a liverpool fan throught eighties and to now have to watch this current shite.


 ::)

2 Jose is on his way out of English football
Catch happen soon enough IMO


Wonder would it be worth sticking a few quid on Alyardyce being next Chelsea boss?


One thing that struck me last night watching - how can Liverpool leave Anfield?

History, tradition, atmosphere. What a place.

Very same thing crossed my mind last night,But im sure the new stadium will be just as good as it's the fans that make it not the bricks and mortar

Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: An Fear Rua on May 02, 2007, 12:08:37 PM
just a few delightful images flaoting about today

http://www.putfile.com/pic.php?img=5368506 (http://www.putfile.com/pic.php?img=5368506)




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Couldn't imagine the Glazers been able to do this.

no they wont, unlike like liverpool fans who seem to welcome becoming a US franchise, there are still a large and active group in Manchester who absolutely detest what has happend with the glazers. The glazers will never be able to walk about Manchester safely. They have to sneak in and out everytime, and its not very successful. They were attacked last week at the lowry hotel.

I dont not condone etc etc blah blah blah
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: Mayo4Sam on May 02, 2007, 12:10:54 PM
Rick Parry Classic

"I guess when you've invested £500m it's a fantastic season to win the League Cup. He's welcome to his opinions, we care about Liverpool."
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: bingobus on May 02, 2007, 12:58:23 PM

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Couldn't imagine the Glazers been able to do this.

no they wont, unlike like liverpool fans who seem to welcome becoming a US franchise, there are still a large and active group in Manchester who absolutely detest what has happend with the glazers. The glazers will never be able to walk about Manchester safely. They have to sneak in and out everytime, and its not very successful. They were attacked last week at the lowry hotel.

I dont not condone etc etc blah blah blah

That is what I meant, well aware of the dislike towards the Clazers at United, have a mate who is into the boycott and I fear mentioning their names round him.

I think the difference between the Liverpool and United fans view point on the US "franchise" (as you put it) is that Liverppol needed the investment, be it Thai, Dubai or Yankee, we needed the money for the stadium, players and to become more competitive in all areas (Marketing, Transfer etc). Liverpool had more to gain than to lose and the supporters porbably had alot of faith in David Moores and so trusted him when he said this was the best option. Soccer is a business and we were been run like a second hand car dealership.

United had everything - Stadium, Fanbase, transfer funds, marketing, global brand etc. They had nothing to gain from a takeover and more to lose. That prob is the reason for the hositility and I can see why a lot would be apprenhensive but due to Uniteds massive fanbase, it wouldn't affect the Glazers plans until the club slide on the pitch. No sign yet.

Would you agree with this been the reason between the Fans reactions to the US takeovers?

As a sie, is it true that there is actually a big rivalry between FC United and the United Fans (albeit the more "hardcore" element" that stayed loyal) and that they has been a few "disagreements" this season? Maybe its idle gossip.
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: The Real Laoislad on May 02, 2007, 01:04:32 PM







Here's my answer to that paticular picture ;D ;D



Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: Uladh on May 02, 2007, 01:06:08 PM

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Couldn't imagine the Glazers been able to do this.

no they wont, unlike like liverpool fans who seem to welcome becoming a US franchise, there are still a large and active group in Manchester who absolutely detest what has happend with the glazers. The glazers will never be able to walk about Manchester safely. They have to sneak in and out everytime, and its not very successful. They were attacked last week at the lowry hotel.

I dont not condone etc etc blah blah blah
United had everything - Stadium, Fanbase, transfer funds, marketing, global brand etc. They had nothing to gain from a takeover and more to lose.

You say that as though there was a decison made somewhere to accept it. i assume you've heard of the free market economy they run over there?

also, no fan of any club, anywhere, has any say in who owns their club. this will always be dictated by the pound note and any group of fans who think they have some semblence of ownership of their club are deluding themselves
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: Orior on May 02, 2007, 01:11:11 PM
That was some abuse Carragher was giving Crouch last night. And Crouchie didnt take it lying down.

What was it all about besides "GET STUCK IN THERE CROUCHIE!!!!"
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: An Fear Rua on May 02, 2007, 01:18:35 PM
Ha Ha, you could not make this up.

Just heard on the radio that while reina was pulling off heroics last night, some of the lovable locals were pulling away in his porsche after removing several items from his house. Thats gratitude for you.

What is it about Liverpool players and having their cars pinched, wasnt so long ago someone helped themselves to Riises 4x4 thanks to the fishing rod through the letterbox trick.
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: Declan on May 02, 2007, 01:23:14 PM
Reina's house ransacked

The home of Liverpool goalkeeper Jose Reina was burgled last night while he played in last night’s Champions League semi-final against Chelsea.

The Spaniard booked Liverpool’s place in the final by saving two out of three penalties in a shoot-out.

He returned from the celebrations at 12.45am to find that his home in Woolton, Liverpool, had been ransacked.

Jewellery, a Bang and Olufsen entertainment system, personal documents and a grey Porsche Cayenne with Spanish number plates were taken.

The Porsche was found burnt out in the West Derby area of Liverpool at 6.30am, according to Merseyside Police.

Reina did not want to comment.

The burglary follows a trend of footballers’ homes being targeted, often when they are playing matches.

The Merseyside home of Jerzy Dudek, Liverpool’s goalkeeper from the 2005 Champions League final penalty shoot-out, was burgled in June 2006.

He was on holiday in Poland when thieves took his Porsche car, jewellery and football memorabilia, including his European Cup medal.

Daniel Agger, who scored for Liverpool last night, had his Wirral home burgled in September last year.

Reds striker Peter Crouch’s house in Alderley Edge was targeted in the same month while he was on England duty.

Everton winger Andy van der Meyde was burgled twice last year, including one raid in which his pedigree puppy was taken.

Wayne Rooney also lost memorabilia, including his BBC Young Sports Personality of the Year trophy, when his parents’ Liverpool home was burgled in July 2006.
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: The Real Laoislad on May 02, 2007, 01:27:10 PM
Ha Ha, you could not make this up.

Just heard on the radio that while reina was pulling off heroics last night, some of the lovable locals were pulling away in his porsche after removing several items from his house. Thats gratitude for you.

What is it about Liverpool players and having their cars pinched, wasnt so long ago someone helped themselves to Riises 4x4 thanks to the fishing rod through the letterbox trick.


Probably Everton fans ;)
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: An Fear Rua on May 02, 2007, 01:29:07 PM

That is what I meant, well aware of the dislike towards the Clazers at United, have a mate who is into the boycott and I fear mentioning their names round him.

I think the difference between the Liverpool and United fans view point on the US "franchise" (as you put it)

Its not me who puts it like that its the likes of the glazers and gillette, check their press releases, its their (American) terminology

As a sie, is it true that there is actually a big rivalry between FC United and the United Fans (albeit the more "hardcore" element" that stayed loyal) and that they has been a few "disagreements" this season? Maybe its idle gossip.

lets just say there have been a few heated discussions about the subject among the more "active element" of the support coupled with a few internet warriors mouthing or should i say typing off.

pm me your mates name, ill most likely know him.
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: Carmen Stateside on May 02, 2007, 01:32:08 PM
Lads can anyone help me? need to find out time of Kick off in Athens because I fly back from Miami that day and i am sure it will be during the fecking game! :'(
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: The Real Laoislad on May 02, 2007, 01:32:51 PM
I would imagine 7.45pm Carmen
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: The Real Laoislad on May 02, 2007, 01:35:31 PM

Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: An Fear Rua on May 02, 2007, 01:38:51 PM

also, no fan of any club, anywhere, has any say in who owns their club. this will always be dictated by the pound note and any group of fans who think they have some semblence of ownership of their club are deluding themselves

AFC Wimbledon
FC United of Manchester
Barcelona

all owned by its members, all of who have a vote on how every aspect of the club should be run, either by voting on an issue directly or voting a representative who will best represent their view.
And there are others ....
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: GalwayBayBoy on May 02, 2007, 01:40:49 PM



Good photo of the new owners in the directors box last night. Isn't that Martin Johnson and Ben Kay behind them?
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: Carmen Stateside on May 02, 2007, 01:47:00 PM
Think I am flying at 2 >:( Got to get that changed maybe an excuse for an extra night in Miami ;D
Whats that on the chairmans scarf............ :D
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: Gabriel_Hurl on May 02, 2007, 02:10:45 PM
What were West Ham thinking - sticking Masch on the bench for 6 months

They deserve to go down for that reason, and that reason alone
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: Carmen Stateside on May 02, 2007, 02:14:02 PM
What were West Ham thinking - sticking Masch on the bench for 6 months

They deserve to go down for that reason, and that reason alone

Totally agree! what a steal he was :D Put in a mountain of work last night and his long passing was brilliant!!
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: full back on May 02, 2007, 02:14:32 PM



Good photo of the new owners in the directors box last night. Isn't that Martin Johnson and Ben Kay behind them?

Thats the big b4stard alright
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: Gabriel_Hurl on May 02, 2007, 03:12:04 PM

Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: The Real Laoislad on May 02, 2007, 03:31:25 PM



I have to say seeing Rafa sitting like that before the penalty shootout made laugh and for a split second eased the gut wrenching that was taking place in me stomach
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: Stagmeister on May 02, 2007, 03:58:50 PM
What were West Ham thinking - sticking Masch on the bench for 6 months

They deserve to go down for that reason, and that reason alone

Mascherano looked like a class act last night...Alonso deserved the chop big time...he hasnt contributed at all this season...If I was a Liverpool fan I'd defo be hoping Benitez sticks with Gerrard and Mascherano in the centre for the final...which he prob will after last night
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: Stalin on May 02, 2007, 04:04:17 PM
laoislad where u gettin all these pics from?
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: The Real Laoislad on May 02, 2007, 04:13:22 PM
laoislad where u gettin all these pics from?


A mixture of emails and some googling.I took today off to get my books and accounts in order,between watching highlights from last night and being on net im not getting much done :-[
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: The Real Laoislad on May 02, 2007, 04:24:32 PM
Meant to comment on Drogba last night how he didn't get booked was unreal he was diving all over place
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: Gabriel_Hurl on May 02, 2007, 05:42:17 PM
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Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: The Real Laoislad on May 02, 2007, 09:16:05 PM
I had hoped Milan would beat United as i couldn't bear losing to United in Final but watching this match so far im not so sure i want Milan anymore they are playing some football :-\
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: An Fear Rua on May 02, 2007, 09:20:30 PM
I had hoped Milan would beat United as i couldn't bear losing to United in Final but watching this match so far im not so sure i want Milan anymore they are playing some football :-\

benitez will make sure his team play a much more intensive game than utd have tonight, that will have a huge impact on the game.
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: The Real Laoislad on May 02, 2007, 09:51:21 PM
Milan it is Bring it on!!!
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: magickingdom on May 02, 2007, 09:59:45 PM
fcuk milan did look very good tonight. their some team with one of the best records in europe and their due a win in the final. but theres always hope with rafa
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: anportmorforjfc on May 02, 2007, 10:00:58 PM
milan didnt even have to be at their best to win tonight. utd were woeful. giggs and ronaldo especially
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: An Fear Rua on May 02, 2007, 10:02:02 PM
liverpool fans everywhere breathing a sigh of relief   ;D
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: The Real Laoislad on May 02, 2007, 10:03:04 PM
Not sure about that after seeing Milan :-[
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: GalwayBayBoy on May 02, 2007, 10:33:38 PM
liverpool fans everywhere breathing a sigh of relief   ;D

Why would we be? We've got to face the better team now in the final.

Playing United would have been too tense though.
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: deiseach on May 02, 2007, 10:38:29 PM
liverpool fans everywhere breathing a sigh of relief   ;D

Yes, I'm sure you're grinning right now
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: bingobus on May 02, 2007, 10:49:39 PM
How the serious stuff, who is going?

Very very tempted. Time against me though, off to Italy on Saturday for a week, so realistically need to get booked and sorted by Friday.

Abbey very pricey at 1999 but ticket included. First flight full, awaiting on 2nd.

Premier soccer promotions - 1299 two nights (Out Tuesday and back Thursday) No ticket included at this stage but may become available.

Whartons will now be doing a package as its not a Liverpool/United final. Details available tomorrow.

If anyboby else knows of any can you post them up. I have two mates who are booked on a there own flights via Budapest from Tuesday to Saturday for about 500 but they have no tickets and are taking chance that someone will produce two for them. I'd take this route if i thought I'd turn a ticket up.

Could be a busy day Thursday!!!
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: deiseach on May 02, 2007, 11:00:09 PM
Not a chance. I have easy access to a ticket as my brother-in-law bought four tickets for every home match, one of which was on my fan card. But spending several hundred euro on a 60/40 against chance of victory seems like a horrible gamble, especially seeing as you don't have to be there to really enjoy it!
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: bingobus on May 02, 2007, 11:04:15 PM
Not a chance. I have easy access to a ticket as my brother-in-law bought four tickets for every home match, one of which was on my fan card. But spending several hundred euro on a 60/40 against chance of victory seems like a horrible gamble, especially seeing as you don't have to be there to really enjoy it!

I suppose then that there is no chance of you giving me your ticket then   ;)  ;D

Had to ask!!!
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: Stalin on May 03, 2007, 12:39:54 AM
anybody know of any travel agents doing a student rate? ;D
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: GalwayBayBoy on May 03, 2007, 01:00:14 AM
Rafa the new mystic Meg.

http://home.skysports.com/list.aspx?hlid=449416&CPID=5&clid=14&lid=&title=Rafa+eyes+Milan+repeat (http://home.skysports.com/list.aspx?hlid=449416&CPID=5&clid=14&lid=&title=Rafa+eyes+Milan+repeat)

Rafa Benitez believes Liverpool will meet Milan in this season's UEFA Champions League final.

The Spaniard has predicted that the two sides could contest the final in Athens in a repeat of the epic showpiece in 2005.

Liverpool face holders and favourties Barcelona in the last 16 and Benitez is confident his troops can cause an upset again like they did against Milan two years ago.

"I think the final will be Liverpool v Milan and that we will win again. It's sure," Benitez told Corriere dello Sport.

Liverpool face the daunting task of Barcelona this week and Benitez has hit out at critics who have ruled out his side's chances of progressing.

"In football there is nothing impossible," added Benitez. "We are ready to astonish you once again.

"Whoever sees us as victims is wrong. We were the same also against Milan in Istanbul's final and to those who see us already beaten by Barcelona, I suggest to see how that match ends."
Title: The magician casts his spell...
Post by: Stalin on May 03, 2007, 03:05:14 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tUlTSUSnL4A (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tUlTSUSnL4A)

he's magic!
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: Norf Tyrone on May 03, 2007, 10:04:34 PM
Apologies for not being on earlier to congratulate yous on your victory.

Disagree with TSO in that I thought Liverpool narrowly deserved it, however I agree in the fact that the effort taken to compete in so many competitions these days has a massive effect. The Blues have been running on empty the last few weeks, and this was reflected in the final third of the pitch where we had no ingenuity whatsoever until SWP came on. It was no surprise to that our best players IMHO were Mikel, and Makalele who haven't played that often this season, plus Essien...who is superb no matter what. Indeed we looked most threatening when Essien burst from defence especially in the 2nd half. Our worst players were easilly Lampard and Drogba who have played far too many games.

For Liverpool Carragher as usual was excellent, but I thought Mascherano was poorish, unlike most on here. He was good in the tackle but his passing was nearly our best creative outlet!

Good luck in Athens, but I believe AC will be hell bent on revenge. However I also thought that they'd hammer you in 05, as would Barce, Chelsea and company this year........
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: GalwayBayBoy on May 04, 2007, 01:10:36 AM
Liverpool stronger than in the past

Oliver Kay
 
Step into the players’ lounge at Anfield and you will notice an enormous mural of Liverpool players celebrating their Champions League final triumph over AC Milan in Istanbul two years ago. To try to put names to all the squad is a difficult exercise, so unfamiliar are some of the faces, as is picking out the 19-year-old who hopped over a fence and joined the celebrations thanks to an official tracksuit “borrowed” from the vacated dugout.

Lee Dames, a semi-professional player with Vauxhall Motors, treasures the photographs of him among his victorious idols, but he is unlikely to have been alone in feeling like a gatecrasher. Liverpool supporters still joke that Djimi Traoré and Igor Biscan have won more European Cups than any Evertonian, but the same applies to Josémi and Antonio Nuñez, two Spanish imports who were among the substitutes.

And what of Salif Diao, Ritchie Partridge and Zak Whitbread — now with Stoke City, Rotherham United and Millwall respectively — who were not in the 18-man squad but also joined the marginally more obscure Dames in the post-match festivities?

Say what you like about this Liverpool team’s chances in Athens on May 23, but Rafael Benítez knows they are stronger, far stronger, than the motley crew who somehow overcame Milan two years ago. Back then, in his first season in charge at Anfield, the Liverpool manager would start his team-selection plans with a core of four or five players and would often have to ask the likes of Traoré, Biscan and Nuñez to fill in around the edges. Now he can look forward to this season’s final knowing that he has appealing options (he would say “possibilities”) in just about every position, particularly central midfield, where the presence of Steven Gerrard, Xabi Alonso, Mohamed Sissoko and Javier Mascherano amounts to an embarrassment of riches.

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Milan v Liverpool: who has the advantage?
The 2005 final will be remembered as Jerzy Dudek’s finest hour, as he made a stupendous save from Andriy Shevchenko late in extra time before denying Andrea Pirlo and, decisively, Shevchenko in the penalty shoot-out. Dudek joked afterwards that “I can retire now” and, in terms of his Liverpool career, he may as well have done as Benítez, not exactly the sentimental type, brought in José Manuel Reina to replace the likeable but inconsistent Pole.

Reina has had the odd erratic moment since his arrival from Villarreal, but he is a far more reliable goalkeeper than the jittery Dudek of 2005. And, as he proved against Chelsea in the semi-final, second leg on Tuesday and indeed in the FA Cup Final against West Ham United last May, he is no less adept in penalty shoot-outs.

Gradually, the team have begun to bear the Benítez hallmark. As Carlo Ancelotti, the Milan coach, said on Tuesday, “Liverpool are not as good as Manchester but they are harder physically”. Might they also be harder mentally, at least when it comes to beating top-class opponents on the European stage? Their record in the Champions League under Benítez includes two-leg victories over Barcelona, Juventus and Chelsea (twice) and, for all that they lack the flair to win enough matches to challenge for the Barclays Premiership, their tactical nous in Europe — starting with Benítez but embraced on the pitch by Jamie Carragher, Alonso and Mascherano — appears unrivalled.

Deficiencies persist. Despite a rapid turnover of personnel in attack, Liverpool still lack a top-class striker, even if Benítez trusts Dirk Kuyt far more than he did Milan Baros. There also remains lack of quality from wide areas, which is one reason why Gerrard is likely to find himself consigned to the right wing. But where there is Gerrard, there is hope. Man for man, Liverpool may remain inferior to Milan, but the gulf in class is not half as wide as the one they bridged in Istanbul.

How Liverpool rates

José Manuel Reina A far more reliable goalkeeper than Jerzy Dudek looked two years ago and, like the Pole, is a penalty-saving expert 8

Steve Finnan Seemed one of the weak links in team who reached 2005 final, but has emerged as an integral part of the defence 7

Jamie Carragher Would not have begun to merit comparison to Alessandro Nesta three years ago, but has grown in stature 8

Daniel Agger Liability in first leg against Chelsea, but vastly improved on Tuesday, when he also scored all-important goal 7

Álvaro Arbeloa Likely to play at left back in Athens, even though he is right-footed. Jury is out 6

Steven Gerrard Can expect to be sent back out to right wing against AC Milan but will be desperate to repeat Istanbul heroics 8

Javier Mascherano A calamity at West Ham United, but a revelation at Anfield. Guile may secure place ahead of Mohamed Sissoko 7

Xabi Alonso Classy deep-lying playmaker in Andrea Pirlo mould but has not reached that level this season. Left out on Tuesday but likely to be involved from start against Milan 7

John Arne Riise Honest, committed, gives team balance and packs thunderous left-foot shot. But would not get close to Milan team 6

Dirk Kuyt Struggles against top-class defences and is yet to score in Champions League for Liverpool. Is a Rafael Benítez favourite because of workrate rather than flair 7

Craig Bellamy A likely selection because of pace, but struggling to convince Benítez in longer term 6

Total 77
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: Declan on May 04, 2007, 08:45:11 AM
Heighway: Rafa's plan for young Reds 'crazy'

Liverpool academy boss Steve Heighway has described Rafael Benitez’s decision to assume control of the coaching of the club’s up-and-coming players as “crazy”.

Heighway oversaw the Reds’ triumph in the FA Youth Cup final last week and announced after the second leg that he would be leaving the academy after 19 years.

He told The Times: “Rafa is a terrific manager, tactically astute with qualities I really admire, but in my view I’m the best coach of 17 and 18-year-old players in this club.

“But I no longer get the chance to do that. That’s crazy, that’s mad; it’s to the detriment of the young players at this club.”

During Heighway’s time at the club players such as Michael Owen, Steven Gerrard and Jamie Carragher have come through the ranks.
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: An Fear Rua on May 04, 2007, 08:55:33 AM
 Former Liverpool striker Milan Baros has been banned for three games for pretending that an opponent smelled. (Daily Mirror)  :D :D
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: gawa316 on May 04, 2007, 10:29:12 AM
Heighway: Rafa's plan for young Reds 'crazy'

Liverpool academy boss Steve Heighway has described Rafael Benitez’s decision to assume control of the coaching of the club’s up-and-coming players as “crazy”.

Heighway oversaw the Reds’ triumph in the FA Youth Cup final last week and announced after the second leg that he would be leaving the academy after 19 years.

He told The Times: “Rafa is a terrific manager, tactically astute with qualities I really admire, but in my view I’m the best coach of 17 and 18-year-old players in this club.

“But I no longer get the chance to do that. That’s crazy, that’s mad; it’s to the detriment of the young players at this club.”

During Heighway’s time at the club players such as Michael Owen, Steven Gerrard and Jamie Carragher have come through the ranks.

Although Heighway has to be commended on our 2 recent youth cup wins, no player since Stevie G has been able to make the step up to the first team, which is disappointing considering the resources we have put into the academy.

On your other mans ratings of the team (although slightly bias) I would mark them as follows:

Reina 8, Finnan 8, Carra 9, Agger 8, Arbeloa 6, Gerrard 9, Mascherano 8, Alonso 8, Riise 7, Kuyt 7 & Bells 6. Total 84
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: DickyRock on May 04, 2007, 11:53:33 AM
We'll get to wear the Red kit in Athens as AC have chosen to where their white kit.

 :)
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: High Catch on May 04, 2007, 12:39:42 PM
Crouch must start in the final.  Keep Bellamy for later on in the game to run at Milan's tired old legs.  My team would be the same as second leg v Chelsea with the exception of Alonso replacing Zenden.  However if there were to be any injuries or if Pennant remains out, i would go for midfeild of Gerrard, Alonso, Masch, Zenden.
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: full back on May 04, 2007, 12:42:08 PM
However if there were to be any injuries or if Pennant remains out, i would go for midfeild of Gerrard, Alonso, Masch, Zenden.

At the risk of being tole to fcuk off, how can Liverpool honestly think of playing Zenden in the final?
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: High Catch on May 04, 2007, 12:45:39 PM
He done rightly in the second leg.  I would not have him in my first choice 11 for the final but if there were to be any injuries then Zenden would certainly be in with a shout.
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: bingobus on May 04, 2007, 12:46:42 PM
However if there were to be any injuries or if Pennant remains out, i would go for midfeild of Gerrard, Alonso, Masch, Zenden.

At the risk of being tole to fcuk off, how can Liverpool honestly think of playing Zenden in the final?


fcuk off  ;)

Harry Kewell played 20 minutes in the mini derby and by all accounts is looking very lean. I'd expect him to start in his usual Cup final cameo role. Rafa plays Zenden to keep the ball, unlike Gonzalez. He was played agianst Chelsea to allow Riise playe LB and use his physicall presence to give Agger a hand with Drogba. I'd expect Riise to start LM nad Arbeloa slot back in at LB.
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: High Catch on May 04, 2007, 12:51:37 PM
See Gerrard looking to end his career at Anfield. £120,000 a week.  At least it would put an end to the annual transfer speculation. Altough i'm don't think he will ever have thoughts about joining Chelsea now ;)
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: GalwayBayBoy on May 04, 2007, 01:02:48 PM
However if there were to be any injuries or if Pennant remains out, i would go for midfeild of Gerrard, Alonso, Masch, Zenden.

At the risk of being tole to fcuk off, how can Liverpool honestly think of playing Zenden in the final?


I'm not a fan of Zenden but you can see the logic in him being picked.

Kewell and Aurelio are both injured. Both would play ahead of him.

Riise is having to play left-back as Arbeloa can do a good job at right-back but not so much at left-back.

Gonzalez hasn't shown enough yet to get picked for the big games. He might be better going forward than Zenden but there are big question marks over the defensive side of his game.

It's not like Zenden is first-choice there but he's being played to give a bit of balance to the side. Personally I'd probably move Riise up but then you have to decide who plays left-back.

In fairness to Zenden I though he played quite well against Chelsea at Anfield but I admit I'd prefer to see him on th bench in Athens.
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: full back on May 04, 2007, 01:07:22 PM

fcuk off  ;)


Blaney pr1ck ;)
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: Gabriel_Hurl on May 04, 2007, 01:38:57 PM
Any sign of Rafa's lovechild being back for the game?

He's a big-game player
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: bingobus on May 04, 2007, 01:51:42 PM

fcuk off  ;)


Blaney pr1ck ;)

When will you Nordies ever learn, its BlaYney pr1ck  ;D
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: EC Unique on May 04, 2007, 02:22:02 PM
See Gerrard looking to end his career at Anfield. £120,000 a week.  At least it would put an end to the annual transfer speculation. Altough i'm don't think he will ever have thoughts about joining Chelsea now ;)

Is he worth this much?
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: Gabriel_Hurl on May 04, 2007, 02:22:19 PM
More fake Liverpool jersies


Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: Gabriel_Hurl on May 04, 2007, 03:27:56 PM
Quote
GILLETT: NOTHING COMPARES TO ANFIELD
Jimmy Rice 03 May 2007
George Gillett believes nothing in world sport compares to what he experienced at Anfield on Tuesday night.
And while the American knew he was buying something special when he arrived on Merseyside earlier this year, he admits it has only this week dawned on him what it means to be part of Liverpool Football Club.

"What can I say after Tuesday night? It was magical," said Gillett.
"It was like attending the greatest sports event you ever go to on steroids. Nothing can compare to it.

"I couldn't have imagined when we bought the club the kinds of experiences we've already had. David Moores told me I had to understand what it was like and I would nod and say, 'Yes, we understand'.

"Really, neither I, Foster or the Hicks family could say we did. This is so much bigger and so much more important to so many people than we could ever have imagined.

"We walked around town on Tuesday to see some of the sights. There was a lot of singing going on, and I know this may shock a few people, but there was quite a lot of beer drinking. And I'm sure there was a lot after the game, too!"

Gillett again spoke of his desire to one day sit on The Kop – whether in its current form or in its new incarnation as the centerpiece of the club's new stadium.

"I wish I had been on The Kop on Tuesday, but I was concerned it would be a distraction. We've acknowledged the importance of The Kop already since we arrived and it's clear why the new stadium must be designed around it.

"We'll try to have as many seats in there as there used to be when it was originally a standing area. That's our ambition.

"That was once 24,000. We may not be able to get that many, but we'll certainly go beyond the 12,000 we have now."

On the subject of The Kop and its inhabitants, Gillett also made public his concern about ticket allocations for Athens.

He said: "What's on our minds more than anything now is the fans. This is all about them. I'm really interested in the statistics for the tickets to the finals.

"UEFA has taken over 20,000 tickets already, so it's going to be very difficult for everyone to get tickets.

"We have huge support and I'm really sorry for those fans who follow the club everywhere and won't be able to get tickets. It's a huge challenge for the organisers but a very difficult situation.

"Our aim now is to go on and win the Champions League, but there's one thing we can be absolutely certain of: the players and the fans will never quit.

"They'll give their all to win. They have a spirit unique to the north west of England, which you see on the pitch in Jamie Carragher and Steven Gerrard.

"I saw the banner on The Kop before the game which read, 'Not English but Scouse'. It sums it up.

"When you have that heart in the team and combine this with the energy and ability of those around them, it's quite a combination.

"I could not believe the passion of Dirk Kuyt on the pitch. He never stopped running and it was amazing to see."


The more I hear from this guy - the more I like him
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: Gabriel_Hurl on May 04, 2007, 07:29:20 PM
So long Flo-Po

Quote
Liverpool striker Florent Sinama-Pongolle's loan spell at Recreativo Huelva has become a £2.7m permanent move.

Sinama-Pongolle, 22, has signed a contract until June 2011 with the Primera Liga club.

The France Under-21 international's loan, which began at the end of the season, contained an option to buy him.

He told Recreativo's website: "I'd like to thank the club and the fans for the affection they have shown me."

Sinama-Pongolle was bought by Liverpool from Le Havre in 2001 along with distant cousin Anthony Le Tallec, but both remained with the French club until 2003.

Neither were able to hold down a regular first-team place and Sinama-Pongolle spent the second half of last season out on loan at Blackburn.

Recreativo president Francisco Mendoza said: "Today is a very happy day for all those connected with Recreativo.

"We have waited for the moment of seeing Sinama as a member of the club.

"We have obtained him by putting in the most important financial push of this organisation in its 118-year history."
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: The Real Laoislad on May 04, 2007, 07:40:51 PM
Will always remember him for scoring soon after coming on as a sub against Olympiakos it set us on the road for another great comeback and ultimately on to winning the Champions League  8)
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: SuperSub on May 04, 2007, 07:47:05 PM
I actually thought he was a decent little player certainly better than this Vororin player they are bringing in
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: The Real Laoislad on May 04, 2007, 07:54:08 PM
More fake Liverpool jersies




Were those jerseys you posted yesterday real?
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: Gabriel_Hurl on May 04, 2007, 08:30:31 PM
these are all rumoured designs


Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: The Real Laoislad on May 05, 2007, 03:49:41 PM
Fowler after missing a sitter :( just before half time

0-0 half time v Fulham
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: The Real Laoislad on May 05, 2007, 04:38:32 PM
Liverpool 0-1 Fulham 77mins

Harry Kewell on for Liverpool :o

Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: The Real Laoislad on May 05, 2007, 04:53:55 PM
All over 0-1 Fulham

Liverpool didn't look that bothered today,another reserve team out today apart from Alonso,Sissoko and Bellamy
Fowler had two great chances and good to see Kewell back because im  for one am a fan of the Aussie and i think a fit Kewell is a great asset to the Pool
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: Norf Tyrone on May 05, 2007, 11:20:43 PM
Regarding the Liverpool jerseys from a few pages back, I found this which substantiates one of the designs.....geez look at the Chelsea away effort :-(
http://www.soccer-tops.com/sections.htm?sid=4 (http://www.soccer-tops.com/sections.htm?sid=4)
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: The Real Laoislad on May 06, 2007, 10:37:15 AM
Harry Kewell an asset? A depreciating asset  >:(
That would be the same Harry who came off injured in Istanbul when we were 3-0 down, but was the first man to run onto the field when we won. Actually the fastest he had run all night.


In fairness we should give him the benifit of the doubt,he was injured,a fit Kewell is worth having in the squad IMHO
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: deiseach on May 06, 2007, 11:24:00 AM
Harry bottled it in Istanbul, his injury got worse as the goals went in. He should go in the summer, in fact he should have gone a long time ago.

Really?

Check out when Kewell went off (http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/football/europe/4579949.stm)
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: The Real Laoislad on May 06, 2007, 12:17:42 PM
Never liked Smicer myself.Was in Prague about five years ago and while sitting outside a pub i saw Baros,Smicer and Rosisky walking down the road towards us all dressed in their Czech tracksuits.
I went over to ask for a autograph and get the Liverpool jersery i was wearing signed.Baros and Rosisky couldn't have been nicer and we talked about the Irish team etc albeit in bad broken english from the two lads,But Smicer completly blanked me and my mates and only grunted when we went to shake his hand
I know these players are probably sick and tired of people coming up to them but in fairness to Baros and Rosisky they were two sound fellas and we had a good chat with them while Smicer was a ignornant little shite
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: deiseach on May 06, 2007, 12:23:31 PM
Never liked Smicer myself.Was in Prague about five years ago and while sitting outside a pub i saw Baros,Smicer and Rosisky walking down the road towards us all dressed in their Czech tracksuits.
I went over to ask for a autograph and get the Liverpool jersery i was wearing signed.Baros and Rosisky couldn't have been nicer and we talked about the Irish team etc albeit in bad broken english from the two lads,But Smicer completly blanked me and my mates and only grunted when we went to shake his hand
I know these players are probably sick and tired of people coming up to them but in fairness to Baros and Rosisky they were two sound fellas and we had a good chat with them while Smicer was a ignornant little shite

I'd probably be inclined to let the guy off on the basis that supporters are a nuisance. But Vladi always made a big deal of playing for Liverpool, with jersey kissing that would make a Waterford hurler blush. So you're right, he was being a right cheeky bastard!
Title: Re: Summer Transfers
Post by: The Real Laoislad on May 08, 2007, 03:56:23 PM
I see the mancs thread has started this discussion on possible transfer targets and i started to think about who Liverpool might consider buying
Are there any others bar the Eto's etc that we've already heard about?
Who would ye like?
Title: Re: Summer Transfers
Post by: full back on May 08, 2007, 03:59:31 PM
I see the mancs thread has started this discussion on possible transfer targets and i started to think about who Liverpool might consider buying
Are there any others bar the Eto's etc that we've already heard about?
Who would ye like?

The Champions to you Laoislad ;)
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: The Real Laoislad on May 08, 2007, 04:01:22 PM
Yaddy ya ya ya >:(

also  :'( :'( :'( :'(
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: supersarsfields on May 08, 2007, 04:46:59 PM
That's a tough one.
My opinion this summer we should cut loose Garica, Bellemy, Fowler, Kewell and Hypia.
Granted we won't make a pile o these but should cut one hel of a lump outa the Wage bill.
Then we need to get in One established striker in the E'to Mould. And one other. I wouldn't might seeing Rafa putting in an offer on Teves (sp). I have been impressed by his form for WH.
Other than that, maybe an established left winger. Pennant has done alright on the right after a poor enough start. If he could start to get a bit of consistancy together he could be very useful.
Course we would need to get in a bit of cover for Carra and Agger if Hypia goes.
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: gawa316 on May 08, 2007, 04:58:58 PM
I'd go for one of the big guns in spain..Torres, Villa or E'to and then someone like Bent who is proven in the prem and will be looking for a move with the euro champs coming up. We need creativity big time in midfield, somene who can do something out of nothing e.g. Messi, Kaka, Ronaldinho. Quaresma from portugal looks good but would he adapt to the prem?
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: The Real Laoislad on May 08, 2007, 08:04:20 PM
How about someone lke Gamst Pedersen at Blackburn i think he is a fine player and a great striker of the ball
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: Gabriel_Hurl on May 08, 2007, 08:11:50 PM
We need world-class players - Pedersen is not that
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: The Real Laoislad on May 08, 2007, 08:14:00 PM
We need world-class players - Pedersen is not that


World class players don't always make a good team though,Real Madrid for example
I think you need a blend of world class and hard workers to make a good team.I think Pedersen is a decent player and has had a great season at Blackburn,anythime i have seen him play he's impressed me
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: FermGael on May 09, 2007, 08:14:40 AM
Going to Have to get up at 2.45 in the morning again to watch it over here in Oz but thats the sacrifice you make
for the Pool.  See that alex is doing his best to motivate the Liverpool players  ;)

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/football/europe/6637733.stm (http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/football/europe/6637733.stm)

Quote
Ferguson backs Milan to beat Reds 
 
Milan's semi-final victory over United impressed Ferguson
Manchester United manager Sir Alex Ferguson believes Liverpool have no chance of beating AC Milan in the Champions League final on 23 May.
Milan beat United in the semi-finals to set up a repeat of the 2005 final, which Liverpool won on penalties.

Ferguson told The Sun: "I'd bet for sure that Milan will win the Champions League. I'm absolutely certain of it.

"I told their manager Carlo Ancelotti at the end of our semi-final that there is no way he can not win it now."

Ferguson plans to toast Milan's victory with a bottle of wine given him by Ancelotti after his side had lost in Italy.

 I'm still trying to analyse the factors involved but the truth remains we faced one of the best performances in the history of AC Milan


"Carlo gave me a magnificent bottle of wine," Ferguson added. "But I immediately told him I would only drink his win once I see him lifting the Champions Cup."

The United boss admits his team were outclassed in the second leg of their semi-final, which Milan won 3-0.

But Ferguson believes his side were tired from their efforts in the Premiership the previous weekend, which helped United regain the title for the first time since 2003.

"Milan's second-leg victory over us was stupendous, fantastic and extraordinary," Ferguson said.

"But I know we paid a high price for the Premiership fightback which we needed at Everton to turn a 2-0 scoreline into a 4-2 victory.

"Last week, Milan were fresher and better prepared tactically and physically.

"I'm still trying to analyse the factors involved. But the truth remains we faced one of the best performances in the history of AC Milan."

 
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: Syd The Sailor on May 09, 2007, 08:27:54 AM
We need world-class players - Pedersen is not that


I think Pedersen is a decent player and has had a great season at Blackburn,anythime i have seen him play he's impressed me

"A decent player"....high praise indeed. Pedersen is exactly the kind of player we need to avoid, we have had too many "decent"players over the last few years. We need players who are world class, Pedersen is not.
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: corn02 on May 09, 2007, 11:50:16 AM
Syd, you should know by now that Benitez only signs players who put the team first and are grafters i.e Crouch who I believe ended up with the most assistes this season.

Benitez will pick the right players, don't expect a team of super individuals, he has his layou in his mind and he will follow it.

I seriously suggest that everyone reads A season on the Brink by Guillem Baluage(?). A great insight into Rafa's thinking.
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: Uladh on May 09, 2007, 11:56:27 AM
I seriously suggest that everyone reads A season on the Brink by Guillem Baluage(?). A great insight into Rafa's thinking.

Do yo think he doesn't feel he has a squad capable of challenging for the title yet?
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: Syd The Sailor on May 09, 2007, 12:20:31 PM
Syd, you should know by now that Benitez only signs players who put the team first and are grafters i.e Crouch who I believe ended up with the most assistes this season.

Benitez will pick the right players, don't expect a team of super individuals, he has his layou in his mind and he will follow it.

I seriously suggest that everyone reads A season on the Brink by Guillem Baluage(?). A great insight into Rafa's thinking.

There are plenty of world class players who work for the team, i think we need to get away from the calibre of player we have been getting in last few years if we want to win league, Pennant, Gonzalez etc.I have read "A Season On The Brink", a great read and boy is he thorough!
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: corn02 on May 09, 2007, 01:22:21 PM
He is a smart man Uladh and I am sure he knows the squad is most defientely well off Premiership champions standard. However United won the league this season with a poor squad and I suppose that mirrors Liverpool in Europe.

For Liverpool to be challengers alot of changes will have to be made, how would you rate their current squad Uladh (P.S are you for game tonight?)
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: Uladh on May 09, 2007, 02:07:54 PM

i think liverpool's squad players (outside the starting 11) are far too mediocre. united got lucky early in the season with injuries but it caught up in the end. the same players played every week, twice a week and got results in the league and in europe but as a result ther legs were gone a month ago. when rafa rotates his squad players in, they are achieving mostly draws or losses in the league. a tip top squad will be able to absorb 5/6 changes and still go to places like bolton, everton, etc and get three points. for anyone outside of chelsea, it is not possible to challenge for a league as competitive as the epl and europe successfully similtaneously (without a huge slice of luck). for the forseeable future, united will challenge for the title and the champions league will be a nice bonus if it happens. unless liverpool spend major bucks (the currency of choice) in the summer, they too will have to prioritise again. rafa set out his stall at xmas to go as far as he could in the cl as the title was already beyond him.

If i can bluff off training later i'll get up to the game. can't see yous living with cross at the minute though
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: corn02 on May 09, 2007, 02:31:48 PM
No but should be a good game.

Couldn't agree more regarding Lyour analysis of Liverpool by the way.
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: Gabriel_Hurl on May 11, 2007, 02:16:27 PM
Fowler is gone - so long Robbie - legend

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/football/teams/l/liverpool/6646921.stm (http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/football/teams/l/liverpool/6646921.stm)
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: AZOffaly on May 11, 2007, 02:23:30 PM
At least this time he gets to make a graceful exit. Obviously not the player he was, but I'd still prefer a fit Fowler to any of the other strikers we have.

Cheers 'God'.
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: heganboy on May 11, 2007, 05:18:36 PM
I'm with Az- underutilized this year IMHO, thought we would have seen a lot more and we probably should have in the premiership. Sunderland?
Any thoughts on whether he'll see a bit of Champions league action- still the most natural goal scorer in our panel by a long long way
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: Gabriel_Hurl on May 11, 2007, 06:24:38 PM
http://home.skysports.com/list.aspx?hlid=466027&CPID=8&clid=14&lid=4161&title=Liverpool+close+to+Lucas+deal

Another centre-midfielder on the way - who makes room for him?
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: Square Ball on May 11, 2007, 06:28:51 PM
Stevie Gerrard.......
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: charlie stubbs on May 11, 2007, 06:42:10 PM
taking the positives from fowler leaving,though a legend best days gone.means that with him leaving and probably bellamy,that we will get a least one top striker during summer
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: The Real Laoislad on May 11, 2007, 07:08:16 PM
http://home.skysports.com/list.aspx?hlid=466027&CPID=8&clid=14&lid=4161&title=Liverpool+close+to+Lucas+deal

Another centre-midfielder on the way - who makes room for him?

Probably one for the future he's only 20
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: Carmen Stateside on May 11, 2007, 08:02:13 PM
Fowler was and always will be my Favourite Liverpool player  God your a living legend!! :'(
hope he comes to the states might get to see him before he retires!
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: The Real Laoislad on May 11, 2007, 08:07:08 PM
Fowler was a legend what a player
John Aldridge is my all time favourite with Fowler a close second
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: AZOffaly on May 11, 2007, 08:09:32 PM
My All Time Liverpool favourite players

1) King Kenny
2) Alan Hanson
3) Ian Rush
4) Robbie Fowler
5) Ronnie Whelan
6) Graeme Souness
7) Jamie Carragher
8) Jan Molby
9) Ray Clemence
10) Steven Gerrard
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: Tony Baloney on May 11, 2007, 08:10:20 PM
It would be great if Robbie could get a CL winners medal after missing out in 2005. Maybe he'll come on as a sub and score the winner deep in injury time of extra time! What a way to go!!!!  ;D

Did Syd get the ax from the forum?
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: Tony Baloney on May 11, 2007, 08:13:47 PM
My favourite players:
Kenny Dalglish
Ian Rush
Peter Beardsley
John Barnes (although he was a lazy bollox)
Jan Molby
Robbie Fowler
Steve McMahon
John Aldridge
Alan Hansen
Steven Gerrard


Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: Carmen Stateside on May 11, 2007, 08:36:48 PM
My favourite Liverpool players

Robbie Fowler
King Kenny
Jamie Carragher
Aldo
Steve Mc Mahon
Jan Molby
Ronnie Whelen
Craig Johnston (for his hair alone)
Sammy Lee (for you loaislad ;))
Ray Houghton
oh and Razor Ruddock
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: Gabriel_Hurl on May 11, 2007, 10:04:30 PM
Ian Rush - #1

Jan Molby  :D :D :D :D - reminds me of me
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: deiseach on May 11, 2007, 10:13:40 PM
Jan Molby (we have a lot in common)

You have a Scouse accent?
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: Syd on May 11, 2007, 10:16:08 PM
Barnes - (87-90) he was almost unplayable, who gave a shit if he never did it for England....
Rush
Beardsley
Rob Jones
Fowler
Aldridge
Molby
Mc Mahon
Craig Johnston (just for the perm)
Souness

Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: Carmen Stateside on May 11, 2007, 10:34:27 PM
Newcastle Chairman, Freddie Shepherd has offered to carry Michael Owen back to Anfield for £9 million.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cWx5RK1G9c0
:D :D :D pity he didnt finish what he was going to say about the agent :D
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: deiseach on May 11, 2007, 10:36:35 PM
Before that video motivates any of you to check out Koptalk, please go here (http://koptalkinsider.wordpress.com/). Thanks.
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: Syd on May 12, 2007, 06:48:41 PM
Anyone any views on the Brazilian Liverpool are close to signing, he is described as a "holding midfielder", i would have thought its a bit more creativity we need.
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread
Post by: Syd on May 12, 2007, 07:32:27 PM
Just what we need, another midfielder. NOT
We need at least two worl