Antrim Football Thread

[belfastsaff]

Cragins Two penalties were fouls. However they were fouls outside of the penalty area - never penos!!

Cargin will regroup and go again. Dunloy could win a few if things pan out...

Would also love to see a possibility of Molloy, elliots and co playing both football and hurling for the county... Could it ever work ?

[Dunsilly King]

two penalties, both outside. Major decisions to make mistakes in. Just bad refereeing. The first penalty missed was a game changer for Cargin. Dunloy were excellent from start to finish. Elliot is just class to watch.

[Milltown Row2]

Haven't looked back at the game tbf, so if I'm wrong that's on me but how I seen it was...

Three penalties were probably on reflection soft enough. The first one I did seek clarification on it being inside, player was impeded when about to shoot, so if its a free on the halfway line its a free in the square.

The Pat Shivers one was close, but, his jersey was being pulled outside but continued inside and that was why I gave it, had the Dunloy player let go once inside then it would have been a free not a penalty

Again people will see it differently and that is fine.

On the game, wow its hard to understand the pace the Dunloy lads have in attack. Their fight for the ball, the transition from defense to attack and the two pointers.. Cargin were probably a little more tense than normal and didn't take on scores that they normally would, keeping the scoreboard ticking as the say will generally tally up and before you know the other team is chasing the game.

Before yesterday there wasn't too many saying Cargin were or are a beaten force, I think Cargin will win more championships for sure, maybe even next year as the 'others' this year have been poor enough and not sure another year of training and new managers will bring them on..

As for lads playing both for the county can't see that, its about committing to one for the county and trying your best for the club, and not a dig at were we are footballing terms, but lining up against the Kilkenny's in Hurling to Leitrim in football, its not a difficult choice personally speaking of course

[JohnDenver]

Haven't looked back at the game tbf, so if I'm wrong that's on me but how I seen it was...

Three penalties were probably on reflection soft enough. The first one I did seek clarification on it being inside, player was impeded when about to shoot, so if its a free on the halfway line its a free in the square.

The Pat Shivers one was close, but, his jersey was being pulled outside but continued inside and that was why I gave it, had the Dunloy player let go once inside then it would have been a free not a penalty

Again people will see it differently and that is fine.

On the game, wow its hard to understand the pace the Dunloy lads have in attack. Their fight for the ball, the transition from defense to attack and the two pointers.. Cargin were probably a little more tense than normal and didn't take on scores that they normally would, keeping the scoreboard ticking as the say will generally tally up and before you know the other team is chasing the game.

Before yesterday there wasn't too many saying Cargin were or are a beaten force, I think Cargin will win more championships for sure, maybe even next year as the 'others' this year have been poor enough and not sure another year of training and new managers will bring them on..

As for lads playing both for the county can't see that, its about committing to one for the county and trying your best for the club, and not a dig at were we are footballing terms, but lining up against the Kilkenny's in Hurling to Leitrim in football, its not a difficult choice personally speaking of course

fair play for coming on and explaining the rationale to the decisions.

absolutely spot on that everybody interprets things differently.

[belfastsaff]

Fair play is right. Players make mistakes and its not over analyzed but its different for a ref.

Completely behind you if its a foul anywhere else on the pitch its a foul in the penalty area, some refs would pull out of this.

As for cargin i wouldn't be retiring them just yet, they have youth coming through which the great St Galls team didn't have... They will be at the top table for years to come yet.

[SaffronSports]

The first one I didn't think was a penalty and on the replay, it does look like it was outside. Cargin's second one I didn't see the foul and haven't watched it back but at the time, I thought if there was a foul it was inside. Thought Cargin could have had a couple of reds tbh but they were off the ball so probably more on your assistants to tell you of them. For me, if a referee comes out of a game with no howlers, then I think that's grand. Like the penalty calls were all pretty tight in fairness and folk are saying you got it wrong after multiple replays so I thought you done well.

What happened with the breach in the second half? It looked like you had given a breach then after communication I seen RM put his hand up as if to say, I got that wrong, so was it just a wee error or did someone overrule that?

[general_lee]

two penalties, both outside. Major decisions to make mistakes in. Just bad refereeing. The first penalty missed was a game changer for Cargin. Dunloy were excellent from start to finish. Elliot is just class to watch.

The ref was fine. Both penalty calls were correct imo.

[Dunsilly King]

Haven't looked back at the game tbf, so if I'm wrong that's on me but how I seen it was...

Three penalties were probably on reflection soft enough. The first one I did seek clarification on it being inside, player was impeded when about to shoot, so if its a free on the halfway line its a free in the square.

The Pat Shivers one was close, but, his jersey was being pulled outside but continued inside and that was why I gave it, had the Dunloy player let go once inside then it would have been a free not a penalty

Again people will see it differently and that is fine.

On the game, wow its hard to understand the pace the Dunloy lads have in attack. Their fight for the ball, the transition from defense to attack and the two pointers.. Cargin were probably a little more tense than normal and didn't take on scores that they normally would, keeping the scoreboard ticking as the say will generally tally up and before you know the other team is chasing the game.

Before yesterday there wasn't too many saying Cargin were or are a beaten force, I think Cargin will win more championships for sure, maybe even next year as the 'others' this year have been poor enough and not sure another year of training and new managers will bring them on..

As for lads playing both for the county can't see that, its about committing to one for the county and trying your best for the club, and not a dig at were we are footballing terms, but lining up against the Kilkenny's in Hurling to Leitrim in football, its not a difficult choice personally speaking of course

fair play to you MR2, we all appreciate the fine margins in those situations,  and BTW I would never ever question your integrity. 

[BigGreenField]

Haven't looked back at the game tbf, so if I'm wrong that's on me but how I seen it was...

Three penalties were probably on reflection soft enough. The first one I did seek clarification on it being inside, player was impeded when about to shoot, so if its a free on the halfway line its a free in the square.

The Pat Shivers one was close, but, his jersey was being pulled outside but continued inside and that was why I gave it, had the Dunloy player let go once inside then it would have been a free not a penalty

Again people will see it differently and that is fine.

On the game, wow its hard to understand the pace the Dunloy lads have in attack. Their fight for the ball, the transition from defense to attack and the two pointers.. Cargin were probably a little more tense than normal and didn't take on scores that they normally would, keeping the scoreboard ticking as the say will generally tally up and before you know the other team is chasing the game.

Before yesterday there wasn't too many saying Cargin were or are a beaten force, I think Cargin will win more championships for sure, maybe even next year as the 'others' this year have been poor enough and not sure another year of training and new managers will bring them on..

As for lads playing both for the county can't see that, its about committing to one for the county and trying your best for the club, and not a dig at were we are footballing terms, but lining up against the Kilkenny's in Hurling to Leitrim in football, its not a difficult choice personally speaking of course

If I was from Dungiven I'd say "hi sir, fair play"

[gallsman]

The first penalty missed was a game changer for Cargin.

In what sense? They were crap before it and continued to be crap after it.

[NorthAntrimSaff]

The scoreline flattered Cargin. Dunloy brought their A game, their big players stood up. Direct play(kicking and running) tore Cargin a new one!

[Spike]

All the penalties awarded were justified IMHO. Ref made correct decisions.

Could / should have given another early doors for 2 obvious infringements  in dunloys square before the game's first score.

DMK not Cargin's lucky charm. They've been knocked out of  the championship just twice in 8 years.....both on his watch.

Fair play for coming on to explain decisions

[Take the Mark]

Congratulations to Dunloy, the better team on the day won - no complaints here.

Ref done fairly well too, credit where its due.

Cargin will be back again, and again.

[NorthAntrimSaff]

Big question today is are the Dunloy boys on it or not?

[ck]

Big question today is are the Dunloy boys on it or not?

I would hope so. They deserve it. Big congrats to all in Dunloy. Worthy champions. It was never in doubt on Sunday.
Cargin have been great champions but were very poor on Sunday and I wonder is it re-build time for them?
The way Dunloy play with that all out direct hurling style, they will test anyone in Ulster.