County Manager Merry go round

[thejuice]

Did they leave Meath to take this gig or were they approached after they left?

I'm starting think yes but of course can't prove anything. We'll never know really but Why would they walk away from Meath just before championship.

Some are saying Meath CB weren't paying up what was expected but surely that could be resolved. Just walking away seems so suspicious. 🤨

[Gael85]

Corey and McMahon to Kilcoo.

https://www.lmfm.ie/news/sport/corey-and-mcmahon-to-take-over-at-down-champions-kilcoo/

Are club teams offering better money than counties, is that what we're supposed to take from this?

Really don't know what to make of this but my first inclination is that we got shafted by these two but maybe there's more to it.

The lads were promised money by a former Meath footballer. This was unknown to Meath County board.  Lads walked when no sign of the money.

[Rossfan]

Here we go again....
Sligo
Roscommon should be vacant very soon

[marty34]

Corey and McMahon to Kilcoo.

https://www.lmfm.ie/news/sport/corey-and-mcmahon-to-take-over-at-down-champions-kilcoo/

Are club teams offering better money than counties, is that what we're supposed to take from this?

Really don't know what to make of this but my first inclination is that we got shafted by these two but maybe there's more to it.

The lads were promised money by a former Meath footballer. This was unknown to Meath County board.  Lads walked when no sign of the money.

Is that why they left?

[Tubberman]

Here we go again....
Sligo
Roscommon should be vacant very soon

Probably Mayo too.

[joemamas]

Here we go again....
Sligo
Roscommon should be vacant very soon

Probably Mayo too.

Thanks James, but no Thanks.
please stay away from it.

[Tubberman]

Here we go again....
Sligo
Roscommon should be vacant very soon

Probably Mayo too.

Thanks James, but no Thanks.
please stay away from it.

Act in haste, repent at leisure.

[joemamas]

Here we go again....
Sligo
Roscommon should be vacant very soon

Probably Mayo too.

Thanks James, but no Thanks.
please stay away from it.

Act in haste, repent at leisure.

Like a lot of Mayo folk, 2021 was the one that I cannot forget.
We don't need another decade of Marathon runners.
We need someone who will encourage forwards to kick the ball over the bar.

[SLIGONIAN]

I guess the secrets out on McEntee not being that good. 

McEntee had Carrabine and Murphy in their prime in Div4 and still struggled to get us out. Why because he mixed their talent with some very poor players. One of worst player evaluations I seen was David Phillips starting for us and then putting him on Cox in championship. I found it very hard to take this management seriously after that, then similar mistakes happened over and over even this year. I asked people on the county board face to face to how that can happen and was just advised he is a great lad. That's when I knew personality was way too important of a factor in the evaluation process. It was a free pass the first few years with McEntee according to them.

Keane the coach wasn't long putting our underage players in their place if they came into the set up with too much confidence and trying to put them down. I have been told they would find fault in them a lot quicker than older players.

It took them until this year to see Kilcoyne and McNamara weren't good enough to take us to next level. Only 4.5 years of developing low ceiling players whilst oddly not selecting younger ones which I knew and many others did were of more value to invest in.

The main reason some underage players are struggling to breakthrough is some of the them aren't big personalities. They need to be managed differently and this management failed badly in this regard especially with those more sensitive ones who left the panel.

McEntee has some good facets. He is very organised and structured and nice. But those are the easiest criteria for a manager and min expectation. His communication was poor and he comes across awful dour in his media interviews. Not inspiring at all. He looked lost on the line which is why he probably moved to the stands although that will be played as having a better view.

The county board batten down the hatches to protect McEntee or was it to protect criticism from themselves.

This management failed to inspire the Sligo public as shown in the lack of support in the seniors. We all saw our potential at the u20 final where a huge Sligo crowd showed up.

McEntee talked of how nice everyone in Sligo was to him and how well he was treated. Everyone should treat people with respect but we are far too nice in Sligo. Roscommon people were waiting for Maughan outside the dressing room in 06 comes to mind. They and many other successful counties would never have tolerated what this management achieved over 5 years. Keane in 7 years has only really brought back to where he started. No progress. Davy Burkes job is in jeopardy after getting Roscommon back to Division 1, that would never happen in Sligo where mediocrity is accepted. I wont miss McEntee or Keane but I will give him credit for resigning and saving us time.

The Fermanagh performance showcased where this management brought us, couldn't beat a team ranked around 21. Fermanagh a county who haven't had near the underage success we have had are beating us and spending way more time in Div2 last few years.

Going forward I don't want a nice manager who is just organised and gets on with County Board. The county board need to hold our managers more accountable. They ultimately work for us but it is a collaboration.

I want a winner, a manager with a Aura who exudes belief but backs it up with tactical knowledge. A manager that can see the patterns in the game. I always felt McEntee was blind to seeing the patterns of games which is why no matter what he made the same subs and the same time. Never knew how to change momentum or enhance it. A manager who can evaluate players on ability and potential and can develop them faster.

We need someone of substance who can inspire and bring the whole county with him. Has to carry the belief. This set of players, can they believe they will win Connacht in the last minute of game 1pt down to get the 2pter, that kinda of pressure when the opposition are pushing up on us. Can we hold on to the lead late on with a Connacht title on the line. This team haven't faced that kinda of pressure at senior in long time. In fairness in 07 we didn't handle it great but was just about enough.

3 year look ahead targets,

Division 2 and maintain
Beat 1 of the top 3 in Connacht and competitive against all of them - hammerings not accepted
Sam Maguire qualification and last 16
Lower age profile of team
Improve pace of team
Improve kickout %
Improve goal chance concession etc..

We have to find 4 players that can start and excel, Dillon Walsh, Tommy Ross and Ronan Niland are not projects and should be going straight into the squad next year if fit. Casserly and Conlon need to be given chances. Luke Marren needs to be brought and James Donlon. Both need county conditioning. Midfielders of size need to be targeted. Keaney and Banks brought in. Most importantly Keelan Harte in goals needs to approached. I'd like to see Sheridan and Byrne in. Carrabine comes back hopefully. You don't take a year out if you rate the management and our chances.

Lastly  - local candidates,

Gerry McGowan - waiting in the wings
Eamon O Hara - with Boyle
Kevin Johnstone - not sure, was with Corofin in 2024
Paul Henry - unattached

Hopefully we can poach Luke Bree back from Offaly

Outside of Sligo candidates

Mickey Harte- proven record of bringing through underage, we are closer than Offaly, he is working with Bree right now. Look what he started in Louth when he took over the same time as McEntee and how much quicker their progress was.

[Blowitupref]

Here we go again....
Sligo
Roscommon should be vacant very soon

Probably Mayo too.

Thanks James, but no Thanks.
please stay away from it.

Act in haste, repent at leisure.

Like a lot of Mayo folk, 2021 was the one that I cannot forget.
We don't need another decade of Marathon runners.
We need someone who will encourage forwards to kick the ball over the bar.

Andy Moran the current forwards coach with Monaghan.  A possible option as the next Mayo senior manager?

[Dunneroyal]

Corey and McMahon to Kilcoo.

https://www.lmfm.ie/news/sport/corey-and-mcmahon-to-take-over-at-down-champions-kilcoo/

Are club teams offering better money than counties, is that what we're supposed to take from this?

Really don't know what to make of this but my first inclination is that we got shafted by these two but maybe there's more to it.

The lads were promised money by a former Meath footballer. This was unknown to Meath County board.  Lads walked when no sign of the money.

Is that why they left?

Apparently yes. Lots of really out there speculation some of which would get me with a charge before the courts if I mention them on here. But a well known person in Meath football not near the county set up had told these two lads there was a pot of gold to coin a phrase for everyone in Meath (previous management had a huge expense bill) and that this would continue , one of the reasons for the last regime been removed had nothing to do with selectors and a lot more to do with expenses. When they found out that nah lads you were fed a whisper there we ain't going to pay incentives after league , and actually asked who said it as it was not in the agreement. Said man was mentioned and cb said nope never happened and not going to happen.

[Halfquarter]

I guess the secrets out on McEntee not being that good. 

McEntee had Carrabine and Murphy in their prime in Div4 and still struggled to get us out. Why because he mixed their talent with some very poor players. One of worst player evaluations I seen was David Phillips starting for us and then putting him on Cox in championship. I found it very hard to take this management seriously after that, then similar mistakes happened over and over even this year. I asked people on the county board face to face to how that can happen and was just advised he is a great lad. That's when I knew personality was way too important of a factor in the evaluation process. It was a free pass the first few years with McEntee according to them.

Keane the coach wasn't long putting our underage players in their place if they came into the set up with too much confidence and trying to put them down. I have been told they would find fault in them a lot quicker than older players.

It took them until this year to see Kilcoyne and McNamara weren't good enough to take us to next level. Only 4.5 years of developing low ceiling players whilst oddly not selecting younger ones which I knew and many others did were of more value to invest in.

The main reason some underage players are struggling to breakthrough is some of the them aren't big personalities. They need to be managed differently and this management failed badly in this regard especially with those more sensitive ones who left the panel.

McEntee has some good facets. He is very organised and structured and nice. But those are the easiest criteria for a manager and min expectation. His communication was poor and he comes across awful dour in his media interviews. Not inspiring at all. He looked lost on the line which is why he probably moved to the stands although that will be played as having a better view.

The county board batten down the hatches to protect McEntee or was it to protect criticism from themselves.

This management failed to inspire the Sligo public as shown in the lack of support in the seniors. We all saw our potential at the u20 final where a huge Sligo crowd showed up.

McEntee talked of how nice everyone in Sligo was to him and how well he was treated. Everyone should treat people with respect but we are far too nice in Sligo. Roscommon people were waiting for Maughan outside the dressing room in 06 comes to mind. They and many other successful counties would never have tolerated what this management achieved over 5 years. Keane in 7 years has only really brought back to where he started. No progress. Davy Burkes job is in jeopardy after getting Roscommon back to Division 1, that would never happen in Sligo where mediocrity is accepted. I wont miss McEntee or Keane but I will give him credit for resigning and saving us time.

The Fermanagh performance showcased where this management brought us, couldn't beat a team ranked around 21. Fermanagh a county who haven't had near the underage success we have had are beating us and spending way more time in Div2 last few years.

Going forward I don't want a nice manager who is just organised and gets on with County Board. The county board need to hold our managers more accountable. They ultimately work for us but it is a collaboration.

I want a winner, a manager with a Aura who exudes belief but backs it up with tactical knowledge. A manager that can see the patterns in the game. I always felt McEntee was blind to seeing the patterns of games which is why no matter what he made the same subs and the same time. Never knew how to change momentum or enhance it. A manager who can evaluate players on ability and potential and can develop them faster.

We need someone of substance who can inspire and bring the whole county with him. Has to carry the belief. This set of players, can they believe they will win Connacht in the last minute of game 1pt down to get the 2pter, that kinda of pressure when the opposition are pushing up on us. Can we hold on to the lead late on with a Connacht title on the line. This team haven't faced that kinda of pressure at senior in long time. In fairness in 07 we didn't handle it great but was just about enough.

3 year look ahead targets,

Division 2 and maintain
Beat 1 of the top 3 in Connacht and competitive against all of them - hammerings not accepted
Sam Maguire qualification and last 16
Lower age profile of team
Improve pace of team
Improve kickout %
Improve goal chance concession etc..

We have to find 4 players that can start and excel, Dillon Walsh, Tommy Ross and Ronan Niland are not projects and should be going straight into the squad next year if fit. Casserly and Conlon need to be given chances. Luke Marren needs to be brought and James Donlon. Both need county conditioning. Midfielders of size need to be targeted. Keaney and Banks brought in. Most importantly Keelan Harte in goals needs to approached. I'd like to see Sheridan and Byrne in. Carrabine comes back hopefully. You don't take a year out if you rate the management and our chances.

Lastly  - local candidates,

Gerry McGowan - waiting in the wings
Eamon O Hara - with Boyle
Kevin Johnstone - not sure, was with Corofin in 2024
Paul Henry - unattached

Hopefully we can poach Luke Bree back from Offaly

Outside of Sligo candidates

Mickey Harte- proven record of bringing through underage, we are closer than Offaly, he is working with Bree right now. Look what he started in Louth when he took over the same time as McEntee and how much quicker their progress was.

Very good post.
Having said that , I don't think that the Rossies had a lot to be proud of the way they treated John Maughan and as the players at the time  ? nude snooker playing, enough said !

[Rossfan]

Maughan's overdue departure was 2008.
Pool incident 2002.
If you must post nonsense.....

[Armamike]

I guess the secrets out on McEntee not being that good. 

McEntee had Carrabine and Murphy in their prime in Div4 and still struggled to get us out. Why because he mixed their talent with some very poor players. One of worst player evaluations I seen was David Phillips starting for us and then putting him on Cox in championship. I found it very hard to take this management seriously after that, then similar mistakes happened over and over even this year. I asked people on the county board face to face to how that can happen and was just advised he is a great lad. That's when I knew personality was way too important of a factor in the evaluation process. It was a free pass the first few years with McEntee according to them.

Keane the coach wasn't long putting our underage players in their place if they came into the set up with too much confidence and trying to put them down. I have been told they would find fault in them a lot quicker than older players.

It took them until this year to see Kilcoyne and McNamara weren't good enough to take us to next level. Only 4.5 years of developing low ceiling players whilst oddly not selecting younger ones which I knew and many others did were of more value to invest in.

The main reason some underage players are struggling to breakthrough is some of the them aren't big personalities. They need to be managed differently and this management failed badly in this regard especially with those more sensitive ones who left the panel.

McEntee has some good facets. He is very organised and structured and nice. But those are the easiest criteria for a manager and min expectation. His communication was poor and he comes across awful dour in his media interviews. Not inspiring at all. He looked lost on the line which is why he probably moved to the stands although that will be played as having a better view.

The county board batten down the hatches to protect McEntee or was it to protect criticism from themselves.

This management failed to inspire the Sligo public as shown in the lack of support in the seniors. We all saw our potential at the u20 final where a huge Sligo crowd showed up.

McEntee talked of how nice everyone in Sligo was to him and how well he was treated. Everyone should treat people with respect but we are far too nice in Sligo. Roscommon people were waiting for Maughan outside the dressing room in 06 comes to mind. They and many other successful counties would never have tolerated what this management achieved over 5 years. Keane in 7 years has only really brought back to where he started. No progress. Davy Burkes job is in jeopardy after getting Roscommon back to Division 1, that would never happen in Sligo where mediocrity is accepted. I wont miss McEntee or Keane but I will give him credit for resigning and saving us time.

The Fermanagh performance showcased where this management brought us, couldn't beat a team ranked around 21. Fermanagh a county who haven't had near the underage success we have had are beating us and spending way more time in Div2 last few years.

Going forward I don't want a nice manager who is just organised and gets on with County Board. The county board need to hold our managers more accountable. They ultimately work for us but it is a collaboration.

I want a winner, a manager with a Aura who exudes belief but backs it up with tactical knowledge. A manager that can see the patterns in the game. I always felt McEntee was blind to seeing the patterns of games which is why no matter what he made the same subs and the same time. Never knew how to change momentum or enhance it. A manager who can evaluate players on ability and potential and can develop them faster.

We need someone of substance who can inspire and bring the whole county with him. Has to carry the belief. This set of players, can they believe they will win Connacht in the last minute of game 1pt down to get the 2pter, that kinda of pressure when the opposition are pushing up on us. Can we hold on to the lead late on with a Connacht title on the line. This team haven't faced that kinda of pressure at senior in long time. In fairness in 07 we didn't handle it great but was just about enough.

3 year look ahead targets,

Division 2 and maintain
Beat 1 of the top 3 in Connacht and competitive against all of them - hammerings not accepted
Sam Maguire qualification and last 16
Lower age profile of team
Improve pace of team
Improve kickout %
Improve goal chance concession etc..

We have to find 4 players that can start and excel, Dillon Walsh, Tommy Ross and Ronan Niland are not projects and should be going straight into the squad next year if fit. Casserly and Conlon need to be given chances. Luke Marren needs to be brought and James Donlon. Both need county conditioning. Midfielders of size need to be targeted. Keaney and Banks brought in. Most importantly Keelan Harte in goals needs to approached. I'd like to see Sheridan and Byrne in. Carrabine comes back hopefully. You don't take a year out if you rate the management and our chances.

Lastly  - local candidates,

Gerry McGowan - waiting in the wings
Eamon O Hara - with Boyle
Kevin Johnstone - not sure, was with Corofin in 2024
Paul Henry - unattached

Hopefully we can poach Luke Bree back from Offaly

Outside of Sligo candidates

Mickey Harte- proven record of bringing through underage, we are closer than Offaly, he is working with Bree right now. Look what he started in Louth when he took over the same time as McEntee and how much quicker their progress was.

Not sure 'nice' is an apt description for either of the McEntees.  Good, straight characters yes, but they call a spade a shovel!

[Halfquarter]

Maughan's overdue departure was 2008.
Pool incident 2002.
If you must post nonsense.....

Frankie thought he should be playing , that he was the man, couldn't accept not being called up, spit out his dummy at the time if I recall correctly.