Tyrone v Kerry Semifinal 2025

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cjx

Hope all the Lambegs are ready to welcome kerry to Hill16(90)

Ciarrai_thuaidh

Quote from: tyrone08 on July 09, 2025, 01:35:15 PM
Quote from: Duine Inteacht Eile on July 09, 2025, 12:58:28 PM20 minutes of football is doing an awful amount of heavy lifting for Darragh's argument on Kerry there.

In the same way that Tyrone can go out against Donegal and put in a very good performance but look like a reserve team the next week against Mayo, Kerry can blow hot and cold like anyone else.

And to be honest, it has been lukewarm for the most part.

That 15-20min spell could be kerrys undoing. People are forgetting that kerry were getting beat for majority of that match. While that spell was fantastic aramgh did absolutely nothing to stop it. They kept trying the same tactic.

O'se questions if tyrone can kick a few 2 pointers like they did against Dublin. Obvious question should have been can kerry score 14 points out of 14 attacks again.

I said before that the kerry game defensively armagh werent great. Would say tyrones defense will be better than Armaghs.


What game were you watching? Kerry lead from the start up to Grugans goal after 29mins. Then went back in front no more than 3 mins later. McElroy put Armagh 1 up with the last kick of the half.
From 43rd minute when Clifford kicked a 2 pointer to finish Kerry,led all the way. Armagh were ahead for a sum total of around 9/10 minutes.
"Better to die on your feet,than live on your knees"...

cjx

Quote from: HokeyPokey on July 04, 2025, 11:28:18 AM
Quote from: BennyHarp on July 03, 2025, 11:11:44 PMMind the time the Kerry lads were convinced Stephen O'Neill tried to poison them with water. They are a mad bunch of eegits down there.

Wow. That's unhinged.
It was holy water from Glenhull

inroundthesquare

Quote from: tyrone08 on July 09, 2025, 10:57:42 AM
Quote from: DaleCooper on July 09, 2025, 09:44:42 AMThe worry with that is Kerry pole axing Mcelholm early.

Canavan is not firing, McCurry was poor by his own standards last day.

Do you bench one of them and hope they'll have the character to come in later and blaze over a few?

McKernan is a huge blow, have to fancy Kerry by 5 or so.

If its as hot as forecast Paudie may lag towards end. A game that suits the young lads, ruairi canavan has had a frustrating year...the space created by new rules in Croker should really suit him.

Would bench Darragh and start mcelhom. McCurry had one off day all year, he has proven time and time again hes a class act and can turn it on from off the bench.

Darragh has been poor for majority of the year. Benching him and showing he cant live off his name might ignite a fire within him.

Bradley is lively and is back from injury. Definitely worth at least 20 mins from the bench.

Tyrone need direct running at the kerry defence and not this current hand passing around the half way line. Quick early ball into mcelhom and mccurry will have kerry on the back foot. Throw in a few long balls by rotating a few big men in the square and tyrone will edge it.

I don't see how you can say Darragh has been poor and Bradley has been lively. Bradley seems to get credit from Tyrone fans for doing very little. And Canavan is not starting because of his name he was brilliant in 23 and 24 for us in a rudderless ship and had good league performances when he came back this year (Galway Dublin) got injured before the Cavan game. Even in his poor games he's good for a few points from play and is our main goal threat by far.

Aaron Boone

There's loads more All Irelands in this Kerry team, they just need that one this year to kickstart it.
And there are no traditional counties to stop them remaining this year, Meath have some depth of tradition but they not a recently tested team in this cauldron.

Clifford & Co could/should end up with say 6 All Irelands, Kerry go way over 40 in the roll of honour.
 And then another generation comes through like the great minor players we all saw in Newbridge last Sunday.

inroundthesquare

Quote from: tbrick18 on July 09, 2025, 02:30:47 PMMorgan's kickouts were a disaster against Dublin - but they still managed to win.
I thought Tyrone were poor against Dublin until that last 10-15mins, and I thought Dublin were poor throughout.
Tyrone's main players are still the older guys, Peter Harte, Mattie Donnelly and McGeary - if Kerry get on top of them out the field and break even around the MF area the supply won't be there regardless of what combination of forwards Tyrone play.

However, if the 3 mentioned above get on top and can last the full game, then Tyrone are in with a shout.

Kerry have been inconsistent all year, but can switch it on and have the forwards who are more capable of winning their own battles than Tyrone do - on that point I agree with O'Se. But if in this game Kerry don't play at their best, then can be caught because the same applies to them in that if there is no supply going forward they will struggle for scores.

I think Kerry have the defenders to go man-to-man on DC and McCurry, not sure Tyrone can say the same about Seanie O'Shea or Cliffords.
For me, Tyrone's best chance is to run at the Kerry defence - which takes a lot of energy especially in the hot weather.
I don't think there'll be a huge gap between them, but in general I think Kerry have better players in more positions and so will likely win by 5 or 6.

Tyrone scored 0-10 from their own kickout against Dublin and only conceded 0-02
About as far from a disaster as you can get

Captain Obvious

Quote from: inroundthesquare on July 09, 2025, 08:51:56 PM
Quote from: tbrick18 on July 09, 2025, 02:30:47 PMMorgan's kickouts were a disaster against Dublin - but they still managed to win.
I thought Tyrone were poor against Dublin until that last 10-15mins, and I thought Dublin were poor throughout.
Tyrone's main players are still the older guys, Peter Harte, Mattie Donnelly and McGeary - if Kerry get on top of them out the field and break even around the MF area the supply won't be there regardless of what combination of forwards Tyrone play.

However, if the 3 mentioned above get on top and can last the full game, then Tyrone are in with a shout.

Kerry have been inconsistent all year, but can switch it on and have the forwards who are more capable of winning their own battles than Tyrone do - on that point I agree with O'Se. But if in this game Kerry don't play at their best, then can be caught because the same applies to them in that if there is no supply going forward they will struggle for scores.

I think Kerry have the defenders to go man-to-man on DC and McCurry, not sure Tyrone can say the same about Seanie O'Shea or Cliffords.
For me, Tyrone's best chance is to run at the Kerry defence - which takes a lot of energy especially in the hot weather.
I don't think there'll be a huge gap between them, but in general I think Kerry have better players in more positions and so will likely win by 5 or 6.

Tyrone scored 0-10 from their own kickout against Dublin and only conceded 0-02
About as far from a disaster as you can get

How many wides and shots were dropped short after Dublin won a Tyrone kick out? Kerry are less likely to be wasted when given opportunities.

tyrone08

Quote from: Ciarrai_thuaidh on July 09, 2025, 07:42:32 PM
Quote from: tyrone08 on July 09, 2025, 01:35:15 PM
Quote from: Duine Inteacht Eile on July 09, 2025, 12:58:28 PM20 minutes of football is doing an awful amount of heavy lifting for Darragh's argument on Kerry there.

In the same way that Tyrone can go out against Donegal and put in a very good performance but look like a reserve team the next week against Mayo, Kerry can blow hot and cold like anyone else.

And to be honest, it has been lukewarm for the most part.

That 15-20min spell could be kerrys undoing. People are forgetting that kerry were getting beat for majority of that match. While that spell was fantastic aramgh did absolutely nothing to stop it. They kept trying the same tactic.

O'se questions if tyrone can kick a few 2 pointers like they did against Dublin. Obvious question should have been can kerry score 14 points out of 14 attacks again.

I said before that the kerry game defensively armagh werent great. Would say tyrones defense will be better than Armaghs.


What game were you watching? Kerry lead from the start up to Grugans goal after 29mins. Then went back in front no more than 3 mins later. McElroy put Armagh 1 up with the last kick of the half.
From 43rd minute when Clifford kicked a 2 pointer to finish Kerry,led all the way. Armagh were ahead for a sum total of around 9/10 minutes.

Point was kerry were hardly dominating armagh until that 15min spell. Armagh led in 29 min, kerry pulled it back but then Armagh went in front before half time until kerry drew level in the 45min when they got 14 points in 14 shots


clarshack

Quote from: Aaron Boone on July 09, 2025, 08:48:06 PMThere's loads more All Irelands in this Kerry team, they just need that one this year to kickstart it.
And there are no traditional counties to stop them remaining this year, Meath have some depth of tradition but they not a recently tested team in this cauldron.

Clifford & Co could/should end up with say 6 All Irelands, Kerry go way over 40 in the roll of honour.
 And then another generation comes through like the great minor players we all saw in Newbridge last Sunday.

For Clifford to get 6, Kerry would have to win 5 out of the next 8 or 9. Just can't see it with Tyrone and Meath starting to come good again. He'll probably get 3 and that won't be bad considering Kerry have only won 2 out of the last 15 titles.